12美元手机

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http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=3040翻译:龙腾

How cheap can you make a phone?
你认为制造一部手机的成本最低是多少?

Recently, I paid at Mingtong Digital Mall for a complete phone, featuring quad-band GSM, Bluetooth, MP3 playback, and an OLED display plus keypad for the UI. Simple, but functional; nothing compared to a smartphone, but useful if you’re going out and worried about getting your primary phone wet or stolen.
最近,我在明通数码城买了一部功能完整的手机,有四频GSM,蓝牙,MP3播放器和OLED显示屏,外加键盘操作界面。简单但功能齐全;当然比不上智能手机,不过它作为一部备用手机还是很实用的,可以解除外出时主手机进水或被盗的后顾之忧。

Also, it would certainly find an appreciative audience in impoverished and developing nations.
此外,它一定会得到贫困和发展中国家一些人民的青睐。

$12 is the price paid for a single quantity retail, contract-free, non-promotional, unlocked phone — in a box with charger, protective silicone sleeve, and cable. In other words, the production cost of this phone is somewhere below the retail price of $12. Rumors place it below $10.
12美元是零售价,没有合约,没有促销,没有限购。它被装在一个包括充电器,硅胶保护套和数据线的盒子里。换句话说,这款手机的生产成本应该低于12美元的零售价。有传闻说它的生产成本低于10美元。

This is a really amazing price point. That’s about the price of a large Domino’s cheese pizza, or a decent glass of wine in a restaurant. Or, compared to an Arduino Uno (admittedly a little unfair, but humor me):
这真的是一个相当惊人的价位,相当于一个大号多米诺奶酪披萨或餐厅里一杯像样红酒的价格。或者。可以把它和 Arduino Uno 做个比较(当然有点不公平,但娱乐到我了):

How is this possible? I don’t have the answers, but it’s something I’m trying to learn. A teardown yields a few hints.
这是如何办到的呢?我没有答案,但这是我想要了解的。在对它拆解之后我获得了一些提示。

First, there are no screws. The whole case snaps together.
首先,没有螺丝。所有的部件都卡在一起。


Also, there are (almost) no connectors on the inside. Everything from the display to the battery is soldered directly to the board; for shipping and storage, you get to flip a switch to hard-disconnect the battery. And, as best as I can tell, the battery also has no secondary protection circuit.
其次,内部(几乎)没有连接器。所有的部件,从显示屏到电池都是直接焊接在电路板上;存储时,有一个开关强制断开电池。此外,电池没有二次保护电路。

The Bluetooth antenna is nothing more than a small length of wire, seen on the lower left below.
蓝牙天线其实就是一小段电线,见左下角。

Still, the phone features accoutrements such as a back-lit keypad and decorative lights around the edge.
尽管如此,该手机还带有诸如背光键盘和四周边缘的装饰灯之类的功能。

The electronics consists of just two major ICs: the Mediatek MT6250DA, and a Vanchip VC5276. Of course, with price competition like this, Western firms are suing to protect ground: Vanchip is in a bit of a legal tussle with RF Micro, and Mediatek has also been subject to a few lawsuits of its own.
该电子产品仅由两个主要的芯片组成:联发科技的 MT6250DA 和唯捷创芯的 VC5276。毫无疑问,由于这样的价格竞争,西方企业正提出诉讼来保护自身权益:唯捷创芯正身处和 RF Micro 的法律纠纷之中,联发科技也受到几个诉讼。

The MT6250 is rumored to sell in volume for under $2. I was able to anecdotally confirm the price by buying a couple of pieces on cut-tape from a retail broker for about $2.10 each. [No, I will not broker these chips or this phone for you...]
据称 MT6250 的批发价不到2美元。通过以大约2.1美元的单价从零售经销商购买了一些,我能够确认这些传言。[我不会帮你们代理这些芯片或这款手机……]

That beats the best price I’ve ever been able to get on an ATMega of the types used in an Arduino.
它击败了我曾经购买的 Arduino 中使用的 ATMega 所能得到的最低价格。
Of course, you can’t just call up Mediatek and buy these; and it’s extremely difficult to engage with them “going through the front door” to do a design. Don’t even bother; they won’t return your calls.
当然,不是给联发科技打个电话就能够买到这些的;另外,要想让他们光明正大地设计是非常困难的。别打扰他们,他们是不会回你的电话的。

However, if you know a bit of Chinese, and know the right websites to go to, you can download schematics, board layouts, and software utilities for something rather similar to this phone…”for free”. I could, in theory, at this point attempt to build a version of this phone for myself, with minimal cash investment. It feels like open-source, but it’s not: it’s a different kind of open ecosystem.
但是,如果你懂一点中文,并且知道正确的网站,你可以”免费“下载到和这款手机颇为类似的电路图,电路板布局和软件实用程序。理论上讲,我可以以最少的现金投资创建我自己的手机版本。这看上去和开放源代码很像,但其实不是:它是一种不同类型的开放生态系统。

http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=3040翻译:龙腾

How cheap can you make a phone?
你认为制造一部手机的成本最低是多少?

Recently, I paid at Mingtong Digital Mall for a complete phone, featuring quad-band GSM, Bluetooth, MP3 playback, and an OLED display plus keypad for the UI. Simple, but functional; nothing compared to a smartphone, but useful if you’re going out and worried about getting your primary phone wet or stolen.
最近,我在明通数码城买了一部功能完整的手机,有四频GSM,蓝牙,MP3播放器和OLED显示屏,外加键盘操作界面。简单但功能齐全;当然比不上智能手机,不过它作为一部备用手机还是很实用的,可以解除外出时主手机进水或被盗的后顾之忧。

Also, it would certainly find an appreciative audience in impoverished and developing nations.
此外,它一定会得到贫困和发展中国家一些人民的青睐。

$12 is the price paid for a single quantity retail, contract-free, non-promotional, unlocked phone — in a box with charger, protective silicone sleeve, and cable. In other words, the production cost of this phone is somewhere below the retail price of $12. Rumors place it below $10.
12美元是零售价,没有合约,没有促销,没有限购。它被装在一个包括充电器,硅胶保护套和数据线的盒子里。换句话说,这款手机的生产成本应该低于12美元的零售价。有传闻说它的生产成本低于10美元。

This is a really amazing price point. That’s about the price of a large Domino’s cheese pizza, or a decent glass of wine in a restaurant. Or, compared to an Arduino Uno (admittedly a little unfair, but humor me):
这真的是一个相当惊人的价位,相当于一个大号多米诺奶酪披萨或餐厅里一杯像样红酒的价格。或者。可以把它和 Arduino Uno 做个比较(当然有点不公平,但娱乐到我了):

How is this possible? I don’t have the answers, but it’s something I’m trying to learn. A teardown yields a few hints.
这是如何办到的呢?我没有答案,但这是我想要了解的。在对它拆解之后我获得了一些提示。

First, there are no screws. The whole case snaps together.
首先,没有螺丝。所有的部件都卡在一起。


Also, there are (almost) no connectors on the inside. Everything from the display to the battery is soldered directly to the board; for shipping and storage, you get to flip a switch to hard-disconnect the battery. And, as best as I can tell, the battery also has no secondary protection circuit.
其次,内部(几乎)没有连接器。所有的部件,从显示屏到电池都是直接焊接在电路板上;存储时,有一个开关强制断开电池。此外,电池没有二次保护电路。

The Bluetooth antenna is nothing more than a small length of wire, seen on the lower left below.
蓝牙天线其实就是一小段电线,见左下角。

Still, the phone features accoutrements such as a back-lit keypad and decorative lights around the edge.
尽管如此,该手机还带有诸如背光键盘和四周边缘的装饰灯之类的功能。

The electronics consists of just two major ICs: the Mediatek MT6250DA, and a Vanchip VC5276. Of course, with price competition like this, Western firms are suing to protect ground: Vanchip is in a bit of a legal tussle with RF Micro, and Mediatek has also been subject to a few lawsuits of its own.
该电子产品仅由两个主要的芯片组成:联发科技的 MT6250DA 和唯捷创芯的 VC5276。毫无疑问,由于这样的价格竞争,西方企业正提出诉讼来保护自身权益:唯捷创芯正身处和 RF Micro 的法律纠纷之中,联发科技也受到几个诉讼。

The MT6250 is rumored to sell in volume for under $2. I was able to anecdotally confirm the price by buying a couple of pieces on cut-tape from a retail broker for about $2.10 each. [No, I will not broker these chips or this phone for you...]
据称 MT6250 的批发价不到2美元。通过以大约2.1美元的单价从零售经销商购买了一些,我能够确认这些传言。[我不会帮你们代理这些芯片或这款手机……]

That beats the best price I’ve ever been able to get on an ATMega of the types used in an Arduino.
它击败了我曾经购买的 Arduino 中使用的 ATMega 所能得到的最低价格。
Of course, you can’t just call up Mediatek and buy these; and it’s extremely difficult to engage with them “going through the front door” to do a design. Don’t even bother; they won’t return your calls.
当然,不是给联发科技打个电话就能够买到这些的;另外,要想让他们光明正大地设计是非常困难的。别打扰他们,他们是不会回你的电话的。

However, if you know a bit of Chinese, and know the right websites to go to, you can download schematics, board layouts, and software utilities for something rather similar to this phone…”for free”. I could, in theory, at this point attempt to build a version of this phone for myself, with minimal cash investment. It feels like open-source, but it’s not: it’s a different kind of open ecosystem.
但是,如果你懂一点中文,并且知道正确的网站,你可以”免费“下载到和这款手机颇为类似的电路图,电路板布局和软件实用程序。理论上讲,我可以以最少的现金投资创建我自己的手机版本。这看上去和开放源代码很像,但其实不是:它是一种不同类型的开放生态系统。



Introducing Gongkai
“公开”简介

Welcome to the Galapagos of Chinese “open” source. I call it “gongkai” (公开). Gongkai is the transliteration of “open” as applied to “open source”. I feel it deserves a term of its own, as the phenomenon has grown beyond the so-called “shanzhai” (山寨) and is becoming a self-sustaining innovation ecosystem of its own.
欢迎来到中国”开放“资源世界。我称之为”公开“。“gongkai”是”公开资源“中”公开“的译音。我觉得它应该有一个自己的术语,因为这一现象已经超越了所谓的”山寨“,而形成了一种能够自我维持的创新生态系统。”

Just as the Galapagos Islands is a unique biological ecosystem evolved in the absence of continental species, gongkai is a unique innovation ecosystem evolved with little western influence, thanks to political, language, and cultural isolation.
就像加拉帕戈斯群岛在缺乏大陆物种的情况下演变成了一个独特的生态系统一样,“公开”也是一个受到西方影响甚微的独特的创新生态系统,这要多亏政治,语言和文化隔离。

Of course, just as the Galapagos was seeded by hardy species that found their way to the islands, gongkai was also seeded by hardy ideas that came from the west. These ideas fell on the fertile minds of the Pearl River delta, took root, and are evolving. Significantly, gongkai isn’t a totally lawless free-for-all. It’s a network of ideas, spread peer-to-peer, with certain rules to enforce sharing and to prevent leeching. It’s very different from Western IP concepts, but I’m trying to have an open mind about it.
当然了,就像只有能够找到自己的生存方式的耐寒物种才能在加拉帕戈斯群岛生存一样,“公开”也只接受西方想法中那些比较顽强的。这些想法降落在富饶的珠江三角洲,生根,并不断发展。值得注意的是,“公开”不是完全不受法律约束和绝对免费的。它是创意的集结,对等传播,具有特定的规则来实施共享和防止榨取。它有别于西方的知识产权概念,但我尽量用一种开放的心态来看待。

I’m curious to study this new gongkai ecosystem. For sure, there will be critics who adhere to the tenets of Western IP law that will summarily reject the notion of alternate systems that can nourish innovation and entrepreneurship. On the other hand, it’s these tenets that lock open hardware into technology several generations old, as we wait for patents to expire and NDAs to lift before gaining access to the latest greatest technology. After all, 20 years is an eternity in high tech.
我很有兴趣研究这种全新的公开生态系统。当然,会有一些来自那些坚守西方知识产权法信条,并全盘否定这种可以滋养创新和创业精神的备用生态系统的人士的批评。另一方面,由于要等到专利过期和保密协议解除我们才能访问这些最新最新最伟大的技术,等到那时,这些开放硬件技术早已过期好几代了。毕竟,高科技的生存周期只有20年。

I hope there will be a few open-minded individuals who can accept an exploration of the gongkai Galapagos. Perhaps someday we can understand — and maybe even learn from — the ecosystem that produced the miracle of the $12 gongkai phone.
我希望有一些开明人士能够接受岁这种“公开”的探索。也许有一天,我们可以理解,甚至学习这种产生了12美元公开手机奇迹的生态系统。

Adrian : April 18, 2013 at 4:57 am
Sparse but very helpful silk screen. That TXD/RXD just demands to be hooked up to a Bus Pirate :)
丝网很稀疏但非常有用。接受数据/发送数据只要挂接到一个总线海盗即可:)

Random J. Nerd : April 18, 2013 at 6:11 am
I wonder how cheaply they could do a “protest” phone. Same minimal specs except add a camera and enough of a data connection to push pictures into the cloud. (Minimal local storage)
Went to an anti-CSPAA rally last Saturday, and was torn between bringing a data filled phone, and not having a way to take and send pictures, if I left it home. A $25 phone/camera that could be confiscated without the authorities able to get access to private info that grabbing a smart phone would gone them. The photo push to cloud is why I wouldn’t just supplement the phone above with a standalone, comparably cheap camera.
我很想知道他们制造一个“抗议电话”的最低价是多少。同样是最低配置,只是增加一个摄像头和足够的数据连接将图片进行云存储(最小的本地存储空间)。
我上周参加了一个反CSPAA的集会,在携带一部存储数据的手机还是拍摄和发送图片的设备之间左右为难。一个25美元的手机/摄像机即使是被没收,有关部门也不能获取私人信息,而一部智能手机则会泄露这些信息。将照片进行云存储则省得我在携带这款手机的同时还要单独配备一个同等价格便宜的照相机。

- Simon Rumble : April 19, 2013 at 7:07 am
Digital camera + Eye-Fi + 3G hotspot?
数码相机 + Eye-Fi + 3G 热点?

- Random J. Nerd : April 19, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Part of the idea for a no-frills camera phone, at a price point comparable to Bunnie’s discovery, is to get a one piece minimum-needed device, that if officer unfriendly “accidentally” grinds to the curb, I can just shrug, having lost nothing of real value, and with the data already beyond reach of deletion.
If you can find a $20 hotspot, you could combine that with a cheapo web surveillance camera, with built-in wifi. Crappier than your solution, (but likely good enough) and with quality about what I would expect to be in the disposable price point camera phone.
对没有附加服务的拍照手机的一些看法,价位可以和 Bunnie 的发现相媲美,即使一不小心被没收,我也可以无所谓的耸耸肩,因为并没有失去什么真正的价值,数据也已经无法删除。
如果能够找到一个20美元的热点,你也可以结合一个内置 Wi-Fi 的廉价网络监控摄像头使用。比不上你的方案(但可能够好了),加上我期望的质量,拍照手机的价位应该在可支配的范围之内。

Drieks : April 18, 2013 at 7:50 am
Here In the netherlands you can buy a Nokia phone for 15 euro’s that comes with 20 euro’s prepaid credit for free… Beat that.
在荷兰,15欧元就可以买一部诺基亚手机,只要用信用卡预付20欧元就可以免费获取……完胜!

- Julian Calaby : April 18, 2013 at 10:43 am
That’s not the same, this is *just* the phone “outright”, no contract, no prepaid, no carrier subsidy.
With a pre-pay phone, you do end up paying for the phone, just not at the register when you buy it. The carrier makes the full cost of the phone back through charging more for the “value” (calls, SMS, data, etc.) than they would if you had a post-pay plan or equivalent.
这不是一码事儿,这是一部彻头彻尾的手机,没有合同,没有预付,没有补贴。对预付费的手机来说,你最终还得为之买单,只不过不用在购买的时候付钱。运营商通过收取更多地电话,SMS和数据等的费用在后期赚取手机的全额成本。

- unclepaul : April 18, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Beat what? A shitty Nokia phone? Easy…
哪里赢了?一部劣质的诺基亚手机?轻松点……

- Caless : April 18, 2013 at 4:15 pm
This is subsidised price – the carrier expects to make it up with the phonecalls you’re possibly be charged in future.
这是补贴价格,运营商会在未来的电话中把钱赚回来。

- HybridAU : April 19, 2013 at 9:15 am
To add to what others have said I suspect that this may be old phones where they produced more than they could sell and are now sold at a loss or less than production cost to get them into use and recover some costs rather than put them into landfill.
除了诸位所说的,我怀疑这些都是因生产过量而卖不出去的手机,以低于成本价售出总比堆在那里好,多多少少还能收回部分成本。

Introducing Gongkai
“公开”简介

Welcome to the Galapagos of Chinese “open” source. I call it “gongkai” (公开). Gongkai is the transliteration of “open” as applied to “open source”. I feel it deserves a term of its own, as the phenomenon has grown beyond the so-called “shanzhai” (山寨) and is becoming a self-sustaining innovation ecosystem of its own.
欢迎来到中国”开放“资源世界。我称之为”公开“。“gongkai”是”公开资源“中”公开“的译音。我觉得它应该有一个自己的术语,因为这一现象已经超越了所谓的”山寨“,而形成了一种能够自我维持的创新生态系统。”

Just as the Galapagos Islands is a unique biological ecosystem evolved in the absence of continental species, gongkai is a unique innovation ecosystem evolved with little western influence, thanks to political, language, and cultural isolation.
就像加拉帕戈斯群岛在缺乏大陆物种的情况下演变成了一个独特的生态系统一样,“公开”也是一个受到西方影响甚微的独特的创新生态系统,这要多亏政治,语言和文化隔离。

Of course, just as the Galapagos was seeded by hardy species that found their way to the islands, gongkai was also seeded by hardy ideas that came from the west. These ideas fell on the fertile minds of the Pearl River delta, took root, and are evolving. Significantly, gongkai isn’t a totally lawless free-for-all. It’s a network of ideas, spread peer-to-peer, with certain rules to enforce sharing and to prevent leeching. It’s very different from Western IP concepts, but I’m trying to have an open mind about it.
当然了,就像只有能够找到自己的生存方式的耐寒物种才能在加拉帕戈斯群岛生存一样,“公开”也只接受西方想法中那些比较顽强的。这些想法降落在富饶的珠江三角洲,生根,并不断发展。值得注意的是,“公开”不是完全不受法律约束和绝对免费的。它是创意的集结,对等传播,具有特定的规则来实施共享和防止榨取。它有别于西方的知识产权概念,但我尽量用一种开放的心态来看待。

I’m curious to study this new gongkai ecosystem. For sure, there will be critics who adhere to the tenets of Western IP law that will summarily reject the notion of alternate systems that can nourish innovation and entrepreneurship. On the other hand, it’s these tenets that lock open hardware into technology several generations old, as we wait for patents to expire and NDAs to lift before gaining access to the latest greatest technology. After all, 20 years is an eternity in high tech.
我很有兴趣研究这种全新的公开生态系统。当然,会有一些来自那些坚守西方知识产权法信条,并全盘否定这种可以滋养创新和创业精神的备用生态系统的人士的批评。另一方面,由于要等到专利过期和保密协议解除我们才能访问这些最新最新最伟大的技术,等到那时,这些开放硬件技术早已过期好几代了。毕竟,高科技的生存周期只有20年。

I hope there will be a few open-minded individuals who can accept an exploration of the gongkai Galapagos. Perhaps someday we can understand — and maybe even learn from — the ecosystem that produced the miracle of the $12 gongkai phone.
我希望有一些开明人士能够接受岁这种“公开”的探索。也许有一天,我们可以理解,甚至学习这种产生了12美元公开手机奇迹的生态系统。

Adrian : April 18, 2013 at 4:57 am
Sparse but very helpful silk screen. That TXD/RXD just demands to be hooked up to a Bus Pirate :)
丝网很稀疏但非常有用。接受数据/发送数据只要挂接到一个总线海盗即可:)

Random J. Nerd : April 18, 2013 at 6:11 am
I wonder how cheaply they could do a “protest” phone. Same minimal specs except add a camera and enough of a data connection to push pictures into the cloud. (Minimal local storage)
Went to an anti-CSPAA rally last Saturday, and was torn between bringing a data filled phone, and not having a way to take and send pictures, if I left it home. A $25 phone/camera that could be confiscated without the authorities able to get access to private info that grabbing a smart phone would gone them. The photo push to cloud is why I wouldn’t just supplement the phone above with a standalone, comparably cheap camera.
我很想知道他们制造一个“抗议电话”的最低价是多少。同样是最低配置,只是增加一个摄像头和足够的数据连接将图片进行云存储(最小的本地存储空间)。
我上周参加了一个反CSPAA的集会,在携带一部存储数据的手机还是拍摄和发送图片的设备之间左右为难。一个25美元的手机/摄像机即使是被没收,有关部门也不能获取私人信息,而一部智能手机则会泄露这些信息。将照片进行云存储则省得我在携带这款手机的同时还要单独配备一个同等价格便宜的照相机。

- Simon Rumble : April 19, 2013 at 7:07 am
Digital camera + Eye-Fi + 3G hotspot?
数码相机 + Eye-Fi + 3G 热点?

- Random J. Nerd : April 19, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Part of the idea for a no-frills camera phone, at a price point comparable to Bunnie’s discovery, is to get a one piece minimum-needed device, that if officer unfriendly “accidentally” grinds to the curb, I can just shrug, having lost nothing of real value, and with the data already beyond reach of deletion.
If you can find a $20 hotspot, you could combine that with a cheapo web surveillance camera, with built-in wifi. Crappier than your solution, (but likely good enough) and with quality about what I would expect to be in the disposable price point camera phone.
对没有附加服务的拍照手机的一些看法,价位可以和 Bunnie 的发现相媲美,即使一不小心被没收,我也可以无所谓的耸耸肩,因为并没有失去什么真正的价值,数据也已经无法删除。
如果能够找到一个20美元的热点,你也可以结合一个内置 Wi-Fi 的廉价网络监控摄像头使用。比不上你的方案(但可能够好了),加上我期望的质量,拍照手机的价位应该在可支配的范围之内。

Drieks : April 18, 2013 at 7:50 am
Here In the netherlands you can buy a Nokia phone for 15 euro’s that comes with 20 euro’s prepaid credit for free… Beat that.
在荷兰,15欧元就可以买一部诺基亚手机,只要用信用卡预付20欧元就可以免费获取……完胜!

- Julian Calaby : April 18, 2013 at 10:43 am
That’s not the same, this is *just* the phone “outright”, no contract, no prepaid, no carrier subsidy.
With a pre-pay phone, you do end up paying for the phone, just not at the register when you buy it. The carrier makes the full cost of the phone back through charging more for the “value” (calls, SMS, data, etc.) than they would if you had a post-pay plan or equivalent.
这不是一码事儿,这是一部彻头彻尾的手机,没有合同,没有预付,没有补贴。对预付费的手机来说,你最终还得为之买单,只不过不用在购买的时候付钱。运营商通过收取更多地电话,SMS和数据等的费用在后期赚取手机的全额成本。

- unclepaul : April 18, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Beat what? A shitty Nokia phone? Easy…
哪里赢了?一部劣质的诺基亚手机?轻松点……

- Caless : April 18, 2013 at 4:15 pm
This is subsidised price – the carrier expects to make it up with the phonecalls you’re possibly be charged in future.
这是补贴价格,运营商会在未来的电话中把钱赚回来。

- HybridAU : April 19, 2013 at 9:15 am
To add to what others have said I suspect that this may be old phones where they produced more than they could sell and are now sold at a loss or less than production cost to get them into use and recover some costs rather than put them into landfill.
除了诸位所说的,我怀疑这些都是因生产过量而卖不出去的手机,以低于成本价售出总比堆在那里好,多多少少还能收回部分成本。
Orpheus : April 19, 2013 at 11:17 am
I think “prepaid” in the Netherlands means the same as “PAYGO” (Pay As You GO) in the US (hence it needs credits). That’s not at all the same as the usual subsidized phone with repayment built into its monthly fee. I have gotten similar deals on a few PAYGO smartphones in the last 4 years (each given to a family member after a year when I got a new one) where $100 bought me the phone with $100 in free minutes — and I still had credit to roll over when I renewed on the same terms the following year. His rates may be similar to what the European Lycamobile now offers in the US ($0.02/min of actual use) — can’t hide much built-in subsidy in that.
我认为荷兰的这种“预付”就和美国的“PAYGO”(走的时候付钱)一样(所以需要信用卡)。它和平常所说的附带月租费的补贴手机不一样。过去的4年里,我通过“PAYGO”这种方式购买过一些智能手机(我买了新手机之后会把旧的给家人),我付了100美元买了一部手机外加价值100美元的免费通话,第二年续签相同的条款时仍需要信用卡。他的费率和欧洲 Lycamobile 公司在美国收取的差不多(0.02 美元/分钟),没有其它的内置补贴。

eas : April 18, 2013 at 8:25 am
Very interesting. I hope you (and others) will continue to explore and explain “gongkai” to a wider audience. The western IP regime needs a major injection of new ideas.
很有趣。我希望你(和其他人)会像更多的人解释“公开”的含义。西方知识产权需要注入新鲜的血液。

Scott Robinson : April 18, 2013 at 10:09 am
How could an outsider to the Shenzhen “gongkai” ecosystem be able to learn more about it? That is, say I bought a plane ticket, where would I go? Who could I speak with? You say it’s peer-to-peer with a unique set of rules. How do people network? Are there groups? Projects? Well recognized names in the community?
This is very interesting, of course, and I wonder how I (and others) could go out and find more.
一个局外人如何能够更多的了解深圳公开生态系统呢?也就是说,比如我买了一张机票,我要去哪里?我可以问谁?你说它有一套平等的独特的规则。人们是如何交流的?有分组吗?或者项目?有被大众广泛认可的名称吗?
这非常有趣,当然,我很好奇我(和其他人)怎样才能走出去,发现更多。

Zach Hoeken : April 18, 2013 at 10:53 am
Its definitely out there, but a major barrier to entry is language. Almost all of this happens though Mandarin, so if you dont speak or read it, well… good luck.
For example, here is a DIY SMT pick and place forum that is almost 100% mandarin and they’re doing crazy sick stuff: http://www.diysmt.com
Meanwhile hackaday is posting cnc machines made from wood and jerking each other off for how innovative and amazing they are. haha.
肯定有,但最主要的障碍是语言。几乎所有的东西都是中文,所以说如果你不能说也看不懂,那就只有祝你好运了。
例如,这里有一个 DIY SMT 贴片机的地方论坛,几乎全是中文,他们正在做疯狂变态的东西:http://www.diysmt.com。
同时,hackaday 正在展示木头做成的数控机床,他们互相展示自己是如何的创新和惊人,让对方颤抖,哈哈!

billoubaise : April 18, 2013 at 1:31 pm
very good. but it’s tenets, not tenants.
very interesting stuff – thanks for this peek into that world!
很好。不过单词拼错了,不是“tenants”而是“tenets”。
非常有趣的东西,谢谢你让我们得以窥视那个世界!

Julien Lefort : April 18, 2013 at 4:04 pm
Patent system has been plaguing innovation for years. Instead of fighting each other on patents, western companies should carry on innovating.
The ideal would be no patents at all, with everyone sharing its innovation with the whole world (I know I’m dreaming here…).
Funny thing is companies are patenting ideas/innovation to make sure they’ll make money out of these, and most of the time, these ideas/innovations are coming from publicly founded labs…
专利制度一直以来都在阻碍创新。西方公司应该把时间花在创新上,而不是在专利上你争我斗。
理想的状况是没有专利,所有人都和整个世界分享他的创新成果(我知道我在做白日梦……)
有趣的是,公司拼命地申请想法/创新专利以确保他们能够从中获利,而这些想法/创新往往都源自于公开成立的实验室……

Peakcrew : April 18, 2013 at 8:56 pm
This is fascinating, and I hope you (or one of your other followers) do some more on this – I’d do it myself, but my Mandarin is non-existent! The Western patent system is moribund (patenting gestures, ffs!), and new ideas always flourish when the old ones have ceased to be fit for purpose.
很好玩儿,我希望你(或者其他的追随者)做得更多。我很想做,但我对中文一无所知!西方的专利体系死气沉沉,当旧的想法不再使用时新的想法总是蓬勃发展的。

Zacpod: April 18, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Brilliant! Reminds me a little of the “Flea Circus” from Diamond Age.
I’d be very interested in hearing more about what the rules are in this ecosystem.
Also, totally agree with Random J Nerd – a “Protest Phone” is a brilliant idea!
很聪明!让我想起了钻石时代的跳蚤马戏团。
我对这种生态系统中的规则很感兴趣。
另外我完全同意 Random J Nerd,“抗议电话”是一个绝妙的主意!
napos : April 19, 2013 at 12:59 am
Does anybody have an URL where I could buy one of these?
谁能给我个链接,我想买一个。

- apkto.com : April 19, 2013 at 10:12 pm
taobao.com or alibab.com from china
中国的淘宝网或阿里巴巴网站

- Rajkumar : April 21, 2013 at 2:29 am
Can you please give the entire link not able to find it in alibaba and taobao is in chinese.. I don’t under stand chinese… Kindly mention the whole link where I can buy one???
Thanks
你能给一个完整的链接吗?我在阿里巴巴没找到,而淘宝是中文的,我不懂中文。请你告诉我具体的可以购买的地址。
谢谢!

- Alix Xu : April 21, 2013 at 12:22 pm
You can search “Slim Mini card phone” at alibaba.com,for example”http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/711524344/Slim_Mini_card_mobile_phone.html”
你可以在阿里巴巴网站上搜索“Slim Mini card phone”,比如说这个:http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/711524344/Slim_Mini_card_mobile_phone.html。

Isaac Rabinovitch : April 19, 2013 at 1:05 am
Not that amazing. Tracfones can be found for $10 in the U.S.
没什么好惊讶的。在美国你可以找到10美元的 Tracfones。

Lyn Jeffery : April 19, 2013 at 1:11 am
Bunnie –
Brilliant introduction of the $12 phone, and I love the attempt to shift the conversation with a new term that goes beyond “shanzhai.” There have been a lot of great reframings of the shanzhai concept, but none of them can escape the fact that for the makers themselves, in China, it’s not a term they necessarily want to associate themselves with. For most people it seems to still come with a lot of bad associations, especially about quality. Coming up with a new way to talk about it could be useful.
Bunnie,你很好的介绍了这款12美元的手机,我很喜欢你的想法,找出一个超越“山寨”的新术语。有许多关于山寨概念的伟大的定义,但没有一个能逃避一个事实,在中国,对厂商本身来说,他们不愿意将自身和山寨联系在一起。对绝大多数人来说,山寨往往和许多负面的东西有关,尤其是质量方面。提出一种新思路来谈论它可能是有用的。

Besn : April 19, 2013 at 1:52 am
In the gongkai ‘eco system’, it seems the primary optimization aims for
cost reduction. That’s not sustainable over longer time period. To
thrive, the eco system needs primary aims to include more than just
price, e.g. capabilities& features.
在公开生态系统中,它的主要目标是降低成本。长期来看,这是不可持续的。要想茁壮成长,该系统要着眼的不仅仅是价格,还有功能和特点等等。

Phone :April 19, 2013 at 2:41 am
Digital smartphone fate seems inexpensively available.
And GSM, Bluetooth, MP3 Playback, and an OLRD display plus keypad featured smartphone.
The Phone’s bluetooth damra madyame MP3 video picturre free shared inventory.
数码智能手机未来似乎也会变得很便宜。
GSM,蓝牙,MP3 播放器和 OLED 显示屏,外加键盘的智能手机。
这款手机的蓝牙功能可以实现 MP3,视频和图片的免费共享。

Thomas Walpole : April 19, 2013 at 3:21 am
Bunnie:
You state it has mp3 playback- How much storage space does it come with? Guessing under 500mb.
Bunnie,你说这款手机有MP2播放器,那它配备了多大的存储空间呢?我猜低于500MB。

- bunnie : April 19, 2013 at 4:47 am
Plays from the microSD card, not included. Of course, the astute observer will note there is no headphone jack. So you get to listen to your MP3 via your luxurious mono speaker. ;)
可以插 microSD 卡,但要自己买。当然,细心的人会注意到这款手机没有耳机插孔,所以,你只能通过“豪华的”单声道扬声器来听歌;)

- Don Marti : April 19, 2013 at 6:45 am
Or can you use Bluetooth speakers or headphones?
或者可以使用(蓝牙)耳机?

- bunnie : April 19, 2013 at 2:06 pm
true.
可以。

Sam : April 19, 2013 at 12:18 pm
>Also, it would certainly find an appreciative audience in impoverished and developing nations.
Do you mean countries which were occupied and looted by the so-called Developed Countries ?
Quite a few of the currently poor countries wealth was plundered by the richer/militarily stronger countries.
>此外,它一定会得到贫困和发展中国家一些人民的青睐。
你是指被所谓发达国家占领和劫掠的国家吗?
很多处于贫困之中国家的财富被更富有/军力更强大的国家掠夺了。


Markoff : April 19, 2013 at 2:08 pm
not impressive at all, in Slovakia and other european countries you can buy contact free unlocked Samsung E1080 with colorful display and much better display for 10EUR/13USD, so something this horrible mentioned in article for 12USD is very bad deal, even in Hong Kong I saw quite good mobile phones around 13USD
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_e1080t-2941.php
price of this crap should be max. 5USD
不怎么样,在斯洛伐克和其他欧洲国家,花10欧元/13美元可以买到有更好显示效果的彩色显示屏的三星E1080,所以花12美元买文章中提到的这款恐怖的手机很不划算。即使在香港我也看到过13美元左右的一些相当不错的手机:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_e1080t-2941.php
你说的这种垃圾最多只值5美元。
- Ksix : April 20, 2013 at 11:10 pm
Yes, but the E1080 has no bluetooth, no mp3 player, no microsd, so I think this is a much better device.
但是E1080没有蓝牙,没有MP3播放器,不能插microSD卡,所以我认为文章中说的这款手机更好。

- Jonathan : April 21, 2013 at 2:28 am
Look at the specs again. Dual-band vs. quad-band is certainly worth $7 more for some users. Since this is a blog about electronics, not a celebration of identity as expressed by consumer activity, care to take a guess at the BOM cost on that Samsung?
再看看规格。比起双波段,对某些用户来说四频手机肯定值得多花7美元。再说这只是一个关于电子产品的博客,而不是消费者庆祝身份的地方,介意猜一下你那个三星手机的成本费吗?
生产手机的都是骗子。
不生产手机的都是傻瓜。
这种手机能用几次呢?
其实现在更新换代那么快,完全可以做成模块化的散件,就像当年电脑城里热火朝天的攒机。可以节省人工费和测试费。
6250 老掉牙的东西 ,一看就是回收芯片或者库存芯片做的,老外真是少见多怪啊,深圳回收的ddrram ,回收的flash,回收的蓝牙芯片,凑出来这个价格太容易了
这玩儿在1050面前基本没什么优势。
偶前两天恰好帮朋友开车去给移动公司的加盟商家配送手机,说实话,有些山寨的移动TD手机真的是啥配置都有,双核1.2G,wifi,蓝牙,前后摄像头什么的全齐了,800*480的4.0屏,还是安卓4.1的OS,商家从移动进货的价格居然才299,五台以上280,100台就只要240了,每卖出一台,移动给商家返款40,也就是说进货量大的商家只要200块钱!