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It looks a lot like a C-17 ...
2 posted on 1/26/2013 6:56:42 AM by Ken522
(2楼)看上去像（波音）C-17
3 posted on 1/26/2013 7:06:07 AM by JoeProBono
(3楼) （贴了一张图）
To: Ken522
Not a lot of ways to design a high wing cargo aircraft. the C-20 doesn’t have a T-tail, so it isn’t a direct copy of the C-17,
4 posted on 1/26/2013 7:16:57 AM by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
（4楼）设计上翼货机的方案有限。Y-20木有T型尾。所以不是完全山寨C-17
To: Yo-Yo
How much of it is alloy vs carbon? The C-17 has carbon wings.
5 posted on 1/26/2013 7:19:19 AM by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
（5楼）用了多少碳纤维，多少合金？C-17翅膀是碳纤维
To: Yo-Yo
The graphic on the Free Republic article page is probably an early design concept for the aircraft. The 12 photos at the Crienglish article definitely show a “T” tailed cargo aircraft that looks a lot like a C-17 without turbofan engines. (Sort of a C-17/Il-76 blend).
6 posted on 1/26/2013 7:26:15 AM by Captain Rhino (Determined effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge
（6楼）（回四楼）在FP文章里的图片可能是早期型号。在Crienglish文章里的12幅插图包括一个T型尾，看上去和C-17很像，知识没有涡扇发动机（好像是C-17/Il-76混合体）
To: sukhoi-30mki
Hopefully the Chinese take the time to thank us and our traitorous companies for walking them through the design process.
I just hate being taken for granted.
7 posted on 1/26/2013 7:40:43 AM by BobL
(7楼) 希望中国人花点时间感谢以下我们（美国）的叛国公司手把手教他们飞机设计过程。我很讨厌不感恩得人。（这位指的是克林顿时期出口技术到中国，美国人仍然耿耿于怀）
To: sukhoi-30mki
Grobemaster, Hercures, or Garaxy?
8 posted on 1/26/2013 8:00:54 AM by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
（8楼）（Y20是山寨）C-17, C-130,还是C-5?
To: JoeProBono
The IL-76 was almost a direct copy of Lockheed's C-141 (now retired by the Air Force). In fact, Russia stole the Lockheed blueprints.
Many people still refer to the IL-76 as the "C-141-ski."
9 posted on 1/26/2013 8:05:03 AM by SkyPilot
（9楼）（回3楼）IL-76是直接山寨了烙马的C-141(现在已经退役)。实际上，俄国人偷了烙马的图纸。很多人把IL-76叫“C-141-司机”
To: Travis McGee
C-17 still has alum wings, but years ago it did switch to a carbon horizontal tail.
10 posted on 1/26/2013 8:31:46 AM by Imnidiot (This space for Rent)
（10楼）（回5楼）C-17仍然用铝合金的翅膀。很多年前水平尾翼换成了碳纤维
To: BobL
Peruse the publication “Major Jordan's Diary”, it details the wholesale transfer of our technology to the Soviet Union.
11 posted on 1/26/2013 8:46:08 AM by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco)
（11楼）（回7楼）找一找一本书“乔丹少校的日记”。里面仔细讲了美国怎么把技术批发给苏联
To: Imnidiot
I remember what a big controversy there was prior to mass production, when the carbon fiber wings were being tested. I lived near Charleston AFB, and anything concerning C-17s was always big news. I specifically remember the carbon fiber wings had trouble with some static load tests. At the time, the plane was being touted as containing more carbon fiber than any other aircraft to date. That is my memory....
13 posted on 1/26/2013 9:30:24 AM by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
（13楼）（回10楼）我记得C-17定型之前关于使用碳合金主翼有很大的争议。我住在位于北卡的空军基地附近。所有有关C-17的消息都很重要。我清晰的记着碳合金主翼在某些静态试验里有问题。那时，C-17被宣传成有史以来使用复合材料最多的飞机。我是这样记着的。
To: Captain7seas
BO will be standing on a West Coast beach flagging these babies in. Welcome comrades! Our country is yours!
14 posted on 1/26/2013 9:34:04 AM by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
（14楼）（回11楼）奥巴马会在西海岸摇彩旗欢迎Y-20。同志们辛苦了。美国归你们了！
To: BobL
Now Bob , most if not all made a handsome profit on the deal!!!
US Taxpayers, not so much.
15 posted on 1/26/2013 9:46:43 AM by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
（15楼）（回7楼）那些（叛国公司）赚了个够！美国纳税人什么都木有得到
It looks a lot like a C-17 ...
2 posted on 1/26/2013 6:56:42 AM by Ken522
(2楼)看上去像（波音）C-17
3 posted on 1/26/2013 7:06:07 AM by JoeProBono
(3楼) （贴了一张图）
To: Ken522
Not a lot of ways to design a high wing cargo aircraft. the C-20 doesn’t have a T-tail, so it isn’t a direct copy of the C-17,
4 posted on 1/26/2013 7:16:57 AM by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
（4楼）设计上翼货机的方案有限。Y-20木有T型尾。所以不是完全山寨C-17
To: Yo-Yo
How much of it is alloy vs carbon? The C-17 has carbon wings.
5 posted on 1/26/2013 7:19:19 AM by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
（5楼）用了多少碳纤维，多少合金？C-17翅膀是碳纤维
To: Yo-Yo
The graphic on the Free Republic article page is probably an early design concept for the aircraft. The 12 photos at the Crienglish article definitely show a “T” tailed cargo aircraft that looks a lot like a C-17 without turbofan engines. (Sort of a C-17/Il-76 blend).
6 posted on 1/26/2013 7:26:15 AM by Captain Rhino (Determined effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge
（6楼）（回四楼）在FP文章里的图片可能是早期型号。在Crienglish文章里的12幅插图包括一个T型尾，看上去和C-17很像，知识没有涡扇发动机（好像是C-17/Il-76混合体）
To: sukhoi-30mki
Hopefully the Chinese take the time to thank us and our traitorous companies for walking them through the design process.
I just hate being taken for granted.
7 posted on 1/26/2013 7:40:43 AM by BobL
(7楼) 希望中国人花点时间感谢以下我们（美国）的叛国公司手把手教他们飞机设计过程。我很讨厌不感恩得人。（这位指的是克林顿时期出口技术到中国，美国人仍然耿耿于怀）
To: sukhoi-30mki
Grobemaster, Hercures, or Garaxy?
8 posted on 1/26/2013 8:00:54 AM by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
（8楼）（Y20是山寨）C-17, C-130,还是C-5?
To: JoeProBono
The IL-76 was almost a direct copy of Lockheed's C-141 (now retired by the Air Force). In fact, Russia stole the Lockheed blueprints.
Many people still refer to the IL-76 as the "C-141-ski."
9 posted on 1/26/2013 8:05:03 AM by SkyPilot
（9楼）（回3楼）IL-76是直接山寨了烙马的C-141(现在已经退役)。实际上，俄国人偷了烙马的图纸。很多人把IL-76叫“C-141-司机”
To: Travis McGee
C-17 still has alum wings, but years ago it did switch to a carbon horizontal tail.
10 posted on 1/26/2013 8:31:46 AM by Imnidiot (This space for Rent)
（10楼）（回5楼）C-17仍然用铝合金的翅膀。很多年前水平尾翼换成了碳纤维
To: BobL
Peruse the publication “Major Jordan's Diary”, it details the wholesale transfer of our technology to the Soviet Union.
11 posted on 1/26/2013 8:46:08 AM by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco)
（11楼）（回7楼）找一找一本书“乔丹少校的日记”。里面仔细讲了美国怎么把技术批发给苏联
To: Imnidiot
I remember what a big controversy there was prior to mass production, when the carbon fiber wings were being tested. I lived near Charleston AFB, and anything concerning C-17s was always big news. I specifically remember the carbon fiber wings had trouble with some static load tests. At the time, the plane was being touted as containing more carbon fiber than any other aircraft to date. That is my memory....
13 posted on 1/26/2013 9:30:24 AM by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
（13楼）（回10楼）我记得C-17定型之前关于使用碳合金主翼有很大的争议。我住在位于北卡的空军基地附近。所有有关C-17的消息都很重要。我清晰的记着碳合金主翼在某些静态试验里有问题。那时，C-17被宣传成有史以来使用复合材料最多的飞机。我是这样记着的。
To: Captain7seas
BO will be standing on a West Coast beach flagging these babies in. Welcome comrades! Our country is yours!
14 posted on 1/26/2013 9:34:04 AM by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
（14楼）（回11楼）奥巴马会在西海岸摇彩旗欢迎Y-20。同志们辛苦了。美国归你们了！
To: BobL
Now Bob , most if not all made a handsome profit on the deal!!!
US Taxpayers, not so much.
15 posted on 1/26/2013 9:46:43 AM by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
（15楼）（回7楼）那些（叛国公司）赚了个够！美国纳税人什么都木有得到
2 posted on 1/26/2013 6:56:42 AM by Ken522
(2楼)看上去像（波音）C-17
3 posted on 1/26/2013 7:06:07 AM by JoeProBono
(3楼) （贴了一张图）
To: Ken522
Not a lot of ways to design a high wing cargo aircraft. the C-20 doesn’t have a T-tail, so it isn’t a direct copy of the C-17,
4 posted on 1/26/2013 7:16:57 AM by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
（4楼）设计上翼货机的方案有限。Y-20木有T型尾。所以不是完全山寨C-17
To: Yo-Yo
How much of it is alloy vs carbon? The C-17 has carbon wings.
5 posted on 1/26/2013 7:19:19 AM by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
（5楼）用了多少碳纤维，多少合金？C-17翅膀是碳纤维
To: Yo-Yo
The graphic on the Free Republic article page is probably an early design concept for the aircraft. The 12 photos at the Crienglish article definitely show a “T” tailed cargo aircraft that looks a lot like a C-17 without turbofan engines. (Sort of a C-17/Il-76 blend).
6 posted on 1/26/2013 7:26:15 AM by Captain Rhino (Determined effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge
（6楼）（回四楼）在FP文章里的图片可能是早期型号。在Crienglish文章里的12幅插图包括一个T型尾，看上去和C-17很像，知识没有涡扇发动机（好像是C-17/Il-76混合体）
To: sukhoi-30mki
Hopefully the Chinese take the time to thank us and our traitorous companies for walking them through the design process.
I just hate being taken for granted.
7 posted on 1/26/2013 7:40:43 AM by BobL
(7楼) 希望中国人花点时间感谢以下我们（美国）的叛国公司手把手教他们飞机设计过程。我很讨厌不感恩得人。（这位指的是克林顿时期出口技术到中国，美国人仍然耿耿于怀）
To: sukhoi-30mki
Grobemaster, Hercures, or Garaxy?
8 posted on 1/26/2013 8:00:54 AM by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
（8楼）（Y20是山寨）C-17, C-130,还是C-5?
To: JoeProBono
The IL-76 was almost a direct copy of Lockheed's C-141 (now retired by the Air Force). In fact, Russia stole the Lockheed blueprints.
Many people still refer to the IL-76 as the "C-141-ski."
9 posted on 1/26/2013 8:05:03 AM by SkyPilot
（9楼）（回3楼）IL-76是直接山寨了烙马的C-141(现在已经退役)。实际上，俄国人偷了烙马的图纸。很多人把IL-76叫“C-141-司机”
To: Travis McGee
C-17 still has alum wings, but years ago it did switch to a carbon horizontal tail.
10 posted on 1/26/2013 8:31:46 AM by Imnidiot (This space for Rent)
（10楼）（回5楼）C-17仍然用铝合金的翅膀。很多年前水平尾翼换成了碳纤维
To: BobL
Peruse the publication “Major Jordan's Diary”, it details the wholesale transfer of our technology to the Soviet Union.
11 posted on 1/26/2013 8:46:08 AM by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco)
（11楼）（回7楼）找一找一本书“乔丹少校的日记”。里面仔细讲了美国怎么把技术批发给苏联
To: Imnidiot
I remember what a big controversy there was prior to mass production, when the carbon fiber wings were being tested. I lived near Charleston AFB, and anything concerning C-17s was always big news. I specifically remember the carbon fiber wings had trouble with some static load tests. At the time, the plane was being touted as containing more carbon fiber than any other aircraft to date. That is my memory....
13 posted on 1/26/2013 9:30:24 AM by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
（13楼）（回10楼）我记得C-17定型之前关于使用碳合金主翼有很大的争议。我住在位于北卡的空军基地附近。所有有关C-17的消息都很重要。我清晰的记着碳合金主翼在某些静态试验里有问题。那时，C-17被宣传成有史以来使用复合材料最多的飞机。我是这样记着的。
To: Captain7seas
BO will be standing on a West Coast beach flagging these babies in. Welcome comrades! Our country is yours!
14 posted on 1/26/2013 9:34:04 AM by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
（14楼）（回11楼）奥巴马会在西海岸摇彩旗欢迎Y-20。同志们辛苦了。美国归你们了！
To: BobL
Now Bob , most if not all made a handsome profit on the deal!!!
US Taxpayers, not so much.
15 posted on 1/26/2013 9:46:43 AM by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
（15楼）（回7楼）那些（叛国公司）赚了个够！美国纳税人什么都木有得到
It looks a lot like a C-17 ...
2 posted on 1/26/2013 6:56:42 AM by Ken522
(2楼)看上去像（波音）C-17
3 posted on 1/26/2013 7:06:07 AM by JoeProBono
(3楼) （贴了一张图）
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To: Ken522
Not a lot of ways to design a high wing cargo aircraft. the C-20 doesn’t have a T-tail, so it isn’t a direct copy of the C-17,
4 posted on 1/26/2013 7:16:57 AM by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
（4楼）设计上翼货机的方案有限。Y-20木有T型尾。所以不是完全山寨C-17
To: Yo-Yo
How much of it is alloy vs carbon? The C-17 has carbon wings.
5 posted on 1/26/2013 7:19:19 AM by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
（5楼）用了多少碳纤维，多少合金？C-17翅膀是碳纤维
To: Yo-Yo
The graphic on the Free Republic article page is probably an early design concept for the aircraft. The 12 photos at the Crienglish article definitely show a “T” tailed cargo aircraft that looks a lot like a C-17 without turbofan engines. (Sort of a C-17/Il-76 blend).
6 posted on 1/26/2013 7:26:15 AM by Captain Rhino (Determined effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge
（6楼）（回四楼）在FP文章里的图片可能是早期型号。在Crienglish文章里的12幅插图包括一个T型尾，看上去和C-17很像，知识没有涡扇发动机（好像是C-17/Il-76混合体）
To: sukhoi-30mki
Hopefully the Chinese take the time to thank us and our traitorous companies for walking them through the design process.
I just hate being taken for granted.
7 posted on 1/26/2013 7:40:43 AM by BobL
(7楼) 希望中国人花点时间感谢以下我们（美国）的叛国公司手把手教他们飞机设计过程。我很讨厌不感恩得人。（这位指的是克林顿时期出口技术到中国，美国人仍然耿耿于怀）
To: sukhoi-30mki
Grobemaster, Hercures, or Garaxy?
8 posted on 1/26/2013 8:00:54 AM by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
（8楼）（Y20是山寨）C-17, C-130,还是C-5?
To: JoeProBono
The IL-76 was almost a direct copy of Lockheed's C-141 (now retired by the Air Force). In fact, Russia stole the Lockheed blueprints.
Many people still refer to the IL-76 as the "C-141-ski."
9 posted on 1/26/2013 8:05:03 AM by SkyPilot
（9楼）（回3楼）IL-76是直接山寨了烙马的C-141(现在已经退役)。实际上，俄国人偷了烙马的图纸。很多人把IL-76叫“C-141-司机”
To: Travis McGee
C-17 still has alum wings, but years ago it did switch to a carbon horizontal tail.
10 posted on 1/26/2013 8:31:46 AM by Imnidiot (This space for Rent)
（10楼）（回5楼）C-17仍然用铝合金的翅膀。很多年前水平尾翼换成了碳纤维
To: BobL
Peruse the publication “Major Jordan's Diary”, it details the wholesale transfer of our technology to the Soviet Union.
11 posted on 1/26/2013 8:46:08 AM by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco)
（11楼）（回7楼）找一找一本书“乔丹少校的日记”。里面仔细讲了美国怎么把技术批发给苏联
To: Imnidiot
I remember what a big controversy there was prior to mass production, when the carbon fiber wings were being tested. I lived near Charleston AFB, and anything concerning C-17s was always big news. I specifically remember the carbon fiber wings had trouble with some static load tests. At the time, the plane was being touted as containing more carbon fiber than any other aircraft to date. That is my memory....
13 posted on 1/26/2013 9:30:24 AM by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
（13楼）（回10楼）我记得C-17定型之前关于使用碳合金主翼有很大的争议。我住在位于北卡的空军基地附近。所有有关C-17的消息都很重要。我清晰的记着碳合金主翼在某些静态试验里有问题。那时，C-17被宣传成有史以来使用复合材料最多的飞机。我是这样记着的。
To: Captain7seas
BO will be standing on a West Coast beach flagging these babies in. Welcome comrades! Our country is yours!
14 posted on 1/26/2013 9:34:04 AM by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
（14楼）（回11楼）奥巴马会在西海岸摇彩旗欢迎Y-20。同志们辛苦了。美国归你们了！
To: BobL
Now Bob , most if not all made a handsome profit on the deal!!!
US Taxpayers, not so much.
15 posted on 1/26/2013 9:46:43 AM by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
（15楼）（回7楼）那些（叛国公司）赚了个够！美国纳税人什么都木有得到
P的专业人士
就是一些喷子
图都不对
就是一些喷子
图都不对
奥观海难道暴露了？
大运都飞了，y的连个真图也没有，谈什么专业哦
看这图就没什么对的地方
这图和真机差的也太远了，美帝也不是所有的都很专业
图都不对
这专业人士太水了。
指鹿为马，文不对题，走了
明显的，Y20没有图上的翼尖小翼。。。。。
这些人从哪看出来是专业人士了？都是MD喷子么。。。另外，观海暴露了吗？菊座是不是应该安排平副局着手准备撤退渠道了啊？
专业喷子＋专业宅男
图不对啊。
奥巴马会在西海岸摇彩旗欢迎Y-20。同志们辛苦了。美国归你们了！
奥巴马会在西海岸摇彩旗欢迎Y-20。同志们辛苦了。美国归你们了！
这专业水平也太文艺了点
图都不对，还是算了吧，别玩了。
真心被楼主的标题误导了
图是错的；
哪个美帝公司手把手教过兔子设计飞机的————流程！！！
哪个美帝公司手把手教过兔子设计飞机的————流程！！！
这图妥妥的安局版76有木有
鄙视标题党
就这水平，怎么看都不像md的专业人士。
ps 如果md的专业水平都这样，那我们可乐坏了。
ps 如果md的专业水平都这样，那我们可乐坏了。
”（4楼）设计上翼货机的方案有限。Y-20木有T型尾“ 
大胖鸟没有T尾？是我昨天眼矬了么？
大胖鸟没有T尾？是我昨天眼矬了么？秦越人 发表于 2013-1-27 13:35 ![]()
奥巴马会在西海岸摇彩旗欢迎Y-20。同志们辛苦了。美国归你们了！
看来观海同志真心暴露了，建议战忽局潜伏MD的同志迅速行动，掩护观海同志隐退（例如爆料一下XX门之类的事情）
奥巴马会在西海岸摇彩旗欢迎Y-20。同志们辛苦了。美国归你们了！
看来观海同志真心暴露了，建议战忽局潜伏MD的同志迅速行动，掩护观海同志隐退（例如爆料一下XX门之类的事情）
看着很欢乐啊，各种找爹党。
asseggfly760925 发表于 2013-1-27 13:55 ![]()
看来观海同志真心暴露了，建议战忽局潜伏MD的同志迅速行动，掩护观海同志隐退（例如爆料一下XX门之类的事 ...
有待温姐的接班人出现了
看来观海同志真心暴露了，建议战忽局潜伏MD的同志迅速行动，掩护观海同志隐退（例如爆料一下XX门之类的事 ...
有待温姐的接班人出现了
哪个论坛？链接有木有
对奥黑的那段描述老猫着实喜欢，哈哈哈，喵一个！
如果这就是所谓的美国专业人士，我感到很欣慰。。。
天下无人不通共～
奥观海危矣！
奥观海危矣！
这是网友的评价吧。。。。
我们20比那图肥多了~果然专业，闻所未闻的理论让人眼前焕然一新……
BO will be standing on a West Coast beach flagging these babies in. Welcome comrades! Our country is yours!
14 posted on 1/26/2013 9:34:04 AM by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
（14楼）（回11楼）奥巴马会在西海岸摇彩旗欢迎Y-20。同志们辛苦了。美国归你们了！
笑死我了
14 posted on 1/26/2013 9:34:04 AM by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
（14楼）（回11楼）奥巴马会在西海岸摇彩旗欢迎Y-20。同志们辛苦了。美国归你们了！
笑死我了敢情俄罗斯中国都是偷MD技术的不知道他们对A400M是怎么认为的
不知道他们对A400M是怎么认为的克林顿每次都是躺着中枪啊！老克到底和天朝有什么不得不说的故事？记得银河事件和81192都是老克时代啊
有意思！呵呵！
楼上的说图不对的都是什么心态？大家要配合战忽局的工作，OK？
这些人挺专业的，不过是专业喷子
没看出来专业在哪？运-20上哪儿找美国公司给技术？