土耳其40亿防空导弹订单的最新动态

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A military appropriation meeting attended by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Turkey's top brass on Thursday yet again delayed a decision over a long-range air defense system, for which local developers and four international companies were bidding.
Anonymous government sources told Today's Zaman on Friday the government focused on moving ahead with local developers, aiming to help improve a relatively poor defense industry.

The Thursday meeting of the Defense Industry Implementation Committee (SSİK) lasted five-and-a-half hours -- one of the longest so far -- and was meant to select a winner for a proposed missile defense system, but the committee delayed any final decision on the hefty $4 billion contract. In a statement released after the meeting, the SSİK said it would hold additional meetings to select the company for the missile defense system. The main competitors for the tender are the Patriot missile long-range air defense system, produced by US partners Raytheon and Lockheed Martin; Russia's Rosoboronexport with its S-400 system; China's HQ9, exported as FD-2000; and Italian-French Eurosam with its SAMP/T Aster 30.

"It was decided to go ahead with talks with the local companies bidding on the long-range missile project. Talks will also continue with the bidding firms for the manufacture of the Landing Platform Dock (LPD, smaller than an aircraft carrier) project to improve the bidders' offers," said a press release posted on the Undersecretariat for the Defense Industry (SSM) website.

Critics have questioned the reason for the $4 billion deal given that, as a NATO member, Turkey is protected under the alliance's Europe-wide ballistic missile shield. The NATO missile system includes an early warning radar near the town of Kürecik, in Malatya province. Anonymous sources from the meeting cited Turkey's increased self-confidence due to having Patriots for the indecision over an almost six-year-old T-LORAMIDS project. "Prime Minister Erdoğan, in particular, believes Patriots will keep Turkey safe for some time. … Over time we can coax the bidders to lower their price and we will be able to develop systems locally, too," said the same sources. Today's Zaman learned the NATO deployment plan envisaged training Turkish army officers on how to operate the Patriots.

The meeting also failed to make a decision over a planned purchase of four F-35s in 2013. Turkey pledged last year to buy 100 F-35s in the mid-term last year. The SSİK will begin separate negotiations with local RMK Marine shipbuilders and Sea Transport Management for the serial production of six new frigates for an anti-submarine warfare and offshore patrol vessel (MİLGEM) project, in addition to the TCG Heybeliada (F-511), already in service and the TCG Büyükada (F-512), currently under construction. Contract talks will also start with local Roketsan Missiles for the preliminary conceptual design stage to produce launching platforms for Turkey's military and civilian satellites.

The MİLGEM corvette is Turkey's first domestically produced warship.

The first vessel of its class entered service as the TCG Heybeliada in late 2011.

The committee meanwhile delayed the selection of a winner for the production of Turkey's first aircraft carrier. Three major Turkish companies are competing for the bid: Koç Holding's RMK Marine, Kaptanoğlu Holding and Turkon Holding. The committee also delayed a contract for a domestically produced amphibious landing ship, while it approved several projects related to the Agusta A129 attack helicopter, which is being developed in a partnership between Italian aerospace group Augusta and Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI).



Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/tur ... .html#ixzz2H5TUskmh                                                  会议上由总理 埃尔多安和土耳其的高级官员在上周四再次推迟决定通过远程防空系统,为当地的开发商和四家国际公司参与竞标的军事拨款。

周四会议的国防科技工业的执行委员会(SSİK“)历时五年和一个半小时 - 一个迄今为止时间最长的 - 为了选择一个胜出者的导弹防御系统,但该委员会推迟了巨额四十亿美元合同的最终决定。在会议结束后发表的一份声明中,SSİK表示,将举行更多的会议选择 导弹防御系统。 “爱国者”导弹远程空中防御系统,美国的合作伙伴雷神公司和洛克希德·马丁公司生产的; 俄罗斯国防出口公司S-400系统,中国的HQ9,出口型为FD-2000, 意大利和法国 SAMP / T紫苑30。



A military appropriation meeting attended by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Turkey's top brass on Thursday yet again delayed a decision over a long-range air defense system, for which local developers and four international companies were bidding.
Anonymous government sources told Today's Zaman on Friday the government focused on moving ahead with local developers, aiming to help improve a relatively poor defense industry.

The Thursday meeting of the Defense Industry Implementation Committee (SSİK) lasted five-and-a-half hours -- one of the longest so far -- and was meant to select a winner for a proposed missile defense system, but the committee delayed any final decision on the hefty $4 billion contract. In a statement released after the meeting, the SSİK said it would hold additional meetings to select the company for the missile defense system. The main competitors for the tender are the Patriot missile long-range air defense system, produced by US partners Raytheon and Lockheed Martin; Russia's Rosoboronexport with its S-400 system; China's HQ9, exported as FD-2000; and Italian-French Eurosam with its SAMP/T Aster 30.

"It was decided to go ahead with talks with the local companies bidding on the long-range missile project. Talks will also continue with the bidding firms for the manufacture of the Landing Platform Dock (LPD, smaller than an aircraft carrier) project to improve the bidders' offers," said a press release posted on the Undersecretariat for the Defense Industry (SSM) website.

Critics have questioned the reason for the $4 billion deal given that, as a NATO member, Turkey is protected under the alliance's Europe-wide ballistic missile shield. The NATO missile system includes an early warning radar near the town of Kürecik, in Malatya province. Anonymous sources from the meeting cited Turkey's increased self-confidence due to having Patriots for the indecision over an almost six-year-old T-LORAMIDS project. "Prime Minister Erdoğan, in particular, believes Patriots will keep Turkey safe for some time. … Over time we can coax the bidders to lower their price and we will be able to develop systems locally, too," said the same sources. Today's Zaman learned the NATO deployment plan envisaged training Turkish army officers on how to operate the Patriots.

The meeting also failed to make a decision over a planned purchase of four F-35s in 2013. Turkey pledged last year to buy 100 F-35s in the mid-term last year. The SSİK will begin separate negotiations with local RMK Marine shipbuilders and Sea Transport Management for the serial production of six new frigates for an anti-submarine warfare and offshore patrol vessel (MİLGEM) project, in addition to the TCG Heybeliada (F-511), already in service and the TCG Büyükada (F-512), currently under construction. Contract talks will also start with local Roketsan Missiles for the preliminary conceptual design stage to produce launching platforms for Turkey's military and civilian satellites.

The MİLGEM corvette is Turkey's first domestically produced warship.

The first vessel of its class entered service as the TCG Heybeliada in late 2011.

The committee meanwhile delayed the selection of a winner for the production of Turkey's first aircraft carrier. Three major Turkish companies are competing for the bid: Koç Holding's RMK Marine, Kaptanoğlu Holding and Turkon Holding. The committee also delayed a contract for a domestically produced amphibious landing ship, while it approved several projects related to the Agusta A129 attack helicopter, which is being developed in a partnership between Italian aerospace group Augusta and Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI).



Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/tur ... .html#ixzz2H5TUskmh                                                  会议上由总理 埃尔多安和土耳其的高级官员在上周四再次推迟决定通过远程防空系统,为当地的开发商和四家国际公司参与竞标的军事拨款。

周四会议的国防科技工业的执行委员会(SSİK“)历时五年和一个半小时 - 一个迄今为止时间最长的 - 为了选择一个胜出者的导弹防御系统,但该委员会推迟了巨额四十亿美元合同的最终决定。在会议结束后发表的一份声明中,SSİK表示,将举行更多的会议选择 导弹防御系统。 “爱国者”导弹远程空中防御系统,美国的合作伙伴雷神公司和洛克希德·马丁公司生产的; 俄罗斯国防出口公司S-400系统,中国的HQ9,出口型为FD-2000, 意大利和法国 SAMP / T紫苑30。

看的出土国很纠结 又一次推迟了    路边信息FD2000 打靶综合成绩第一 。选择FD2000 政治错误北约压力山大 但是能搞到生产线 极大提高土国军事能力。
为啥,是不是现在手头紧张啊。
相关负责人员吃拿卡要还没喂饱么?
heiyan 发表于 2013-1-5 16:37
为啥,是不是现在手头紧张啊。
不是  土国经济好的很额  就是FD2000和爱国者之争 买中国货美国人不答应 但能提高土国军事能力  
感觉土耳其这个国家有点特立独行,不排除会买点红旗9啊。
要保证卖给土的防空导弹 攻击TG装备的时候必须失效
可以推销给中东大户,委内瑞拉等等国家嘛,一定要转让生产线卖给土耳其
纠结啊纠结啊
买了爱国者能进欧盟不?
土鸡现在就像《一路向西》的男猪脚一样纠结
纠结啊........土鸡

只围观不参与 发表于 2013-1-5 16:58
要保证卖给土的防空导弹 攻击TG装备的时候必须失效


FD2000相对HQ9A/B就是高端猴版 用的引导头火控等子系统据说是在国内产品竟争时的落选方案。但技术水平也足够高了   外国人知道性能也不会危害国内安全。
只围观不参与 发表于 2013-1-5 16:58
要保证卖给土的防空导弹 攻击TG装备的时候必须失效


FD2000相对HQ9A/B就是高端猴版 用的引导头火控等子系统据说是在国内产品竟争时的落选方案。但技术水平也足够高了   外国人知道性能也不会危害国内安全。
bluemax 发表于 2013-1-5 17:02
土鸡现在就像《一路向西》的男猪脚一样纠结
不来这么一针见血滴

土鸡是在考虑兔子的牙口如何?
heiyan 发表于 2013-1-5 16:55
感觉土耳其这个国家有点特立独行,不排除会买点红旗9啊。
土耳其敢买红9,那美国就敢把F—35肥电贱价卖给希腊,谁让这两家是世仇,而且希腊和美国、北约的大哥们关系更铁呢?
熟练工人 发表于 2013-1-5 16:37
看的出土国很纠结 又一次推迟了    路边信息FD2000 打靶综合成绩第一 。选择FD2000 政治错误北约压力山大 但 ...
FD2000打靶综合成绩第一??求出处,这个不科学啊
很明显,既然土鸡这么纠结,那就是爱国者、紫苑和红酒直接的竞争。很可能不愿意买爱国者,但是迫于美帝压力。红酒兜售技术,吸引力刚刚的,技术层面应该不低于紫苑吧。所以,肯定如前面同志所说的,纠结于爱国者和红酒这两者。就算卖不出去,红酒这下也一炮出名了,下次参加阿三的竞标吧。。。
看的出土国很纠结 又一次推迟了    路边信息FD2000 打靶综合成绩第一 。选择FD2000 政治错误北约压力山大 但 ...
可以同时买两款,非搞笑
熟练工人 发表于 2013-1-5 16:37
看的出土国很纠结 又一次推迟了    路边信息FD2000 打靶综合成绩第一 。选择FD2000 政治错误北约压力山大 但 ...
土耳其还是有点胆量的
TG还有一线希望
或原假 发表于 2013-1-5 17:02
买了爱国者能进欧盟不?
买紫菀没准能行
熟练工人 发表于 2013-1-5 17:08
FD2000相对HQ9A/B就是猴版 用的引导头火控系统据说是和国内产品竟争时的落选方案。但技术水平也足够高了  ...
这么一搞 失败的那个所 没准赚的更多
liuxn77 发表于 2013-1-5 17:12
土耳其敢买红9,那美国就敢把F—35肥电贱价卖给希腊,谁让这两家是世仇,而且希腊和美国、北约的大哥们关 ...
美国佬不会介入土希的  这不符合美帝的利益
纠结什么?压爱国者的价吧。
guoxing1987 发表于 2013-1-5 17:22
美国佬不会介入土希的  这不符合美帝的利益
狗咬狗当然没事,招惹来兔子就是对美帝的背叛,美帝不教训下才怪
雨泓 发表于 2013-1-5 17:23
纠结什么?压爱国者的价吧。
也有这个可能.
不过总体来看,Fd-2000性能应该很不错了.
FD到底是什么的缩写?飞吊?
熟练工人 发表于 2013-1-5 17:08
FD2000相对HQ9A/B就是猴版 用的引导头火控系统据说是和国内产品竟争时的落选方案。但技术水平也足够高了  ...
我是说  万一  ww3开始   不敢保证 我鳖会不会和北约干起来    到时候 这种蛋蛋要是攻击TG的飞机  就会自动失效
liuxn77 发表于 2013-1-5 17:12
土耳其敢买红9,那美国就敢把F—35肥电贱价卖给希腊,谁让这两家是世仇,而且希腊和美国、北约的大哥们关 ...
希腊想死再快点么?


说HQ9比其它的三种好,那是不自量力。YY过度。说比其它三种便宜很多,这才是大实话。

说HQ9比其它的三种好,那是不自量力。YY过度。说比其它三种便宜很多,这才是大实话。
或原假 发表于 2013-1-5 17:02
买了爱国者能进欧盟不?
估计够呛,还是宗教问题。

另,爱国者也不是欧盟产品。即便相对进欧盟有所帮助,也要买欧盟产品才好啊。
还没有打下过1~2架脚盘或者妹弟的飞机,没有实战经验就去兜售,这不科学啊
heiyan 发表于 2013-1-5 16:37
为啥,是不是现在手头紧张啊。
一方面不得不选干爹的,另一方面又垂涎兔子家的,这个决心不好下啊,于是乎……
leady 发表于 2013-1-5 17:49
说HQ9比其它的三种好,那是不自量力。YY过度。说比其它三种便宜很多,这才是大实话。
不要秀下限
其实就算买了爱国者,FD2000去混了个眼熟也不错的
买个防空导弹要40亿。

leady 发表于 2013-1-5 17:49
说HQ9比其它的三种好,那是不自量力。YY过度。说比其它三种便宜很多,这才是大实话。


你要买武器去开片,摆在你面前有M16、AK47和一把开山刀,你会因为刀便宜而选它?
一套武器系统好或不好不能只看数据,好看之外还要好用才行。
leady 发表于 2013-1-5 17:49
说HQ9比其它的三种好,那是不自量力。YY过度。说比其它三种便宜很多,这才是大实话。


你要买武器去开片,摆在你面前有M16、AK47和一把开山刀,你会因为刀便宜而选它?
一套武器系统好或不好不能只看数据,好看之外还要好用才行。
甲鱼宝宝 发表于 2013-1-5 17:12
FD2000打靶综合成绩第一??求出处,这个不科学啊
如果不是这样土鸡不会如此纠结,米蒂和北约也不会如此歇斯底里······
单子是很大,但是排除一下,中标的几乎没什么悬念,俄罗斯最没希望,其次tg
liuxn77 发表于 2013-1-5 17:12
土耳其敢买红9,那美国就敢把F—35肥电贱价卖给希腊,谁让这两家是世仇,而且希腊和美国、北约的大哥们关 ...
希腊没钱买啊
想当初,芬兰买武器,国产三分之一,西方三分之一,苏联三分之一。

土耳其可以把单子分两份,美国中国各占一半,谁也不得罪。