外国人对我J15成功起降航母的评论(英 美 印 日)请勿再 ...

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sinodefence id: bd popeye
Biography: US Navy retired '71-'91 <---------这行干了20年了
Re: PLAN Carrier Operations..News, Videos & Photos II
贴1(他搜到了整段起降的视频)no_name beat me to it..here's the YouTube version of the fantastic event..Man..those Chinese sailors on that flight deck have been PROPERLY trained.. Any US Naval aviator or NATO carrier pilot(UK,Spain, Brazil, India & Italy) could land on that ship and follow the directors without any speaking taking place. OUTSTANDING!
这里是youtube版的狂欢会(歼15首次起降),天呐!瞧那些航母上的中国士兵已经被训练得如此专业,任何美国以及北约的航母战机驾驶员都可以离开语言的交流在这艘船上降落了,只需要遵从那些指示就好,这太卓越了。

贴2 (和其他军迷多次讨论后)To the layman they are just seeing an aircraft land on a CV..but to my trained eyeball..I see deck crewmen who have been properly trained. I see pilots lining up and landing right on the "ball"..Those things I see with my Mk1 Mk1 eyeballs are a result of hours and hours intense training.
在那些外行人眼里仅仅看到了一架飞机降落在航母上,但是我要提出我的职业看法,我看到了一整套完成良好受训的班底,我看到驾驶员的完美降落,我用我的钛合金MK1的眼睛保证,这是经过无数小时训练的结果。
(另外他还说到,当他被周围朋友问及辽宁全形成完整战斗力的时间,他回答说,这取决于量产战斗机和后续更多飞行员的训练,他保守认为18个月到两年。第一眼看到歼15上舰的反应?这太慢了,老子等了7年半了,如今幸福了)<-----好吧,他对此树立起信心的时间我相比多少中国军迷都要早啊,2005年。

贴3 (继续讨论后)I keep watching that video over and over again..just looking for something.. all I can say is Bravo Zulu to the PLAN.

In USN terms Bravo Zulu means a Job well done!

我反复看了无数次这段视频,我想寻找一些瑕疵或者别的什么,结果我只能对中国海军说Bravo Zulu,在我们的船上,Bravo Zulu的意思就是“干得太好了”



我们再来看看别的美国飞行员怎么说
ID: Air Force Brat
Biography: son of a c-130 ip, private pilot

"Aye, Aye, Sir", "Mr. HEAD to the Bridge, the DARK LORD has a question, on the double"!!!
好吧,作为一个美国驾驶员,这货是个纯正PLA粉丝,他在兴奋地调侃

贴1 (有人问他这是不是第一次一架全新的飞机在一艘全新的航母上降落,他做回答)Many times, this is but the latest saga in Naval Aviation! But, it is party time for the PLAN, good job every one, but lets keep our eyes peeled for trouble, good preflights and testing can eliminate many of the dangers, as I said before, China has put their best up front on the Liaoning, it is an operational carrier, the aircraft are operational, and the defensive systems are operational, she is HOT as of this date, and she IS the PLAN FLAG vessel. Just as the US Marines have stood up their first F-35B squadron and declared it operational, CV-16 is alive, she is a living breathing AIRCRAFT CARRIER. If she was a Colt 1911, as of tonight she would be in condition 3. bullets in the magazine, hammer down on an empty chamber.

不,之前还有很多先例,但是在这个世家中,这是最新的一个!别在意这小事,现在是解放军海军的派对时间,大家都干得太好了,不过我们也要同时把视线放在那些可能会出的叉子上,试飞和各种测试有很高的危险系数,就像我之前说的,中国可是赌在辽宁上了,这是一艘完全正常运作的航母,有着能够正常运作的舰载机,有着正常运作的防御系统,它太热门了,此时此刻它就是中国海军的旗帜,就像美国的陆战队刚刚解决了F35B的问题那样,16号是一艘活生生的,正在呼吸的航母,如果好比1911手枪,现在它已经进入第三阶段,弹夹充满子弹,随时可以扣动扳机。

贴2)对于一个身于加拿大的香港人兴奋与中国崛起的回复
Yes,and as I stated, we would know when it happened, makes you feel like a man doesn't it air, proud and somehow better and safer and stronger, thats why I encouraged everyone to relax about air ops and let the sailors enjoy their ship, because now they have an aircraft carrier, when you're strong, you can afford to kind and honorable.
对,就像我说过的,当这一天到来时,我们会知道的,让人们觉得轻飘飘的,自豪,安全而强大。这是为什么我告诉每个执行飞行任务的人要放松,让海员们享受他们的海上之家,现在他们有的是一艘航母!当你强大了,你就能面对各种恐惧。

贴3)这是更早的一帖,关于讨论航母以及舰载机的真实性
If you look back in the old thread I stated several times that we would see pictures when it did occur and I stand by that. The PLAN is looking like a real Navy now and doing things up front and out in the open, and the do care about their fans here on Sino D. AFB
如果你看过去的帖子,我说过很多次了,当它发生时我们自然会看到照片,而且我正兴奋地等待着。现在中国海军看起来像个真正的蓝海海军了,而且更加开放,你看,他们很照顾sino这里像我这样的粉丝(第一时间就能看到照片和视频)



总结,就像空军版的德国军迷(迷我空兔)deino一样,我国三军在国外已经有了不少的粉丝,而且大多数都是专业级的,甚至很多是军人出身。而在世界各地,期待盼望着中国崛起的,大有人在。

就用sino上面我们海外军迷的评论对话好结束好了
A:is it the time to bust the tower now? I mean the flyby.

B:Yes Goose, Its time to Buzz the Tower!


再来悄悄ID :Jeff Head这位老美在做啥
e2c-liaoning-01.jpg
e2c-liaoning-02.jpg
是的他把E2C放到自己的辽宁上看了看起降J15的起降机的大小....
(我在想,辽宁的模型哪儿买的?)

sinodefence id: bd popeye
Biography: US Navy retired '71-'91 <---------这行干了20年了
Re: PLAN Carrier Operations..News, Videos & Photos II
贴1(他搜到了整段起降的视频)no_name beat me to it..here's the YouTube version of the fantastic event..Man..those Chinese sailors on that flight deck have been PROPERLY trained.. Any US Naval aviator or NATO carrier pilot(UK,Spain, Brazil, India & Italy) could land on that ship and follow the directors without any speaking taking place. OUTSTANDING!
这里是youtube版的狂欢会(歼15首次起降),天呐!瞧那些航母上的中国士兵已经被训练得如此专业,任何美国以及北约的航母战机驾驶员都可以离开语言的交流在这艘船上降落了,只需要遵从那些指示就好,这太卓越了。

贴2 (和其他军迷多次讨论后)To the layman they are just seeing an aircraft land on a CV..but to my trained eyeball..I see deck crewmen who have been properly trained. I see pilots lining up and landing right on the "ball"..Those things I see with my Mk1 Mk1 eyeballs are a result of hours and hours intense training.
在那些外行人眼里仅仅看到了一架飞机降落在航母上,但是我要提出我的职业看法,我看到了一整套完成良好受训的班底,我看到驾驶员的完美降落,我用我的钛合金MK1的眼睛保证,这是经过无数小时训练的结果。
(另外他还说到,当他被周围朋友问及辽宁全形成完整战斗力的时间,他回答说,这取决于量产战斗机和后续更多飞行员的训练,他保守认为18个月到两年。第一眼看到歼15上舰的反应?这太慢了,老子等了7年半了,如今幸福了)<-----好吧,他对此树立起信心的时间我相比多少中国军迷都要早啊,2005年。

贴3 (继续讨论后)I keep watching that video over and over again..just looking for something.. all I can say is Bravo Zulu to the PLAN.

In USN terms Bravo Zulu means a Job well done!

我反复看了无数次这段视频,我想寻找一些瑕疵或者别的什么,结果我只能对中国海军说Bravo Zulu,在我们的船上,Bravo Zulu的意思就是“干得太好了”



我们再来看看别的美国飞行员怎么说
ID: Air Force Brat
Biography: son of a c-130 ip, private pilot

"Aye, Aye, Sir", "Mr. HEAD to the Bridge, the DARK LORD has a question, on the double"!!!
好吧,作为一个美国驾驶员,这货是个纯正PLA粉丝,他在兴奋地调侃

贴1 (有人问他这是不是第一次一架全新的飞机在一艘全新的航母上降落,他做回答)Many times, this is but the latest saga in Naval Aviation! But, it is party time for the PLAN, good job every one, but lets keep our eyes peeled for trouble, good preflights and testing can eliminate many of the dangers, as I said before, China has put their best up front on the Liaoning, it is an operational carrier, the aircraft are operational, and the defensive systems are operational, she is HOT as of this date, and she IS the PLAN FLAG vessel. Just as the US Marines have stood up their first F-35B squadron and declared it operational, CV-16 is alive, she is a living breathing AIRCRAFT CARRIER. If she was a Colt 1911, as of tonight she would be in condition 3. bullets in the magazine, hammer down on an empty chamber.

不,之前还有很多先例,但是在这个世家中,这是最新的一个!别在意这小事,现在是解放军海军的派对时间,大家都干得太好了,不过我们也要同时把视线放在那些可能会出的叉子上,试飞和各种测试有很高的危险系数,就像我之前说的,中国可是赌在辽宁上了,这是一艘完全正常运作的航母,有着能够正常运作的舰载机,有着正常运作的防御系统,它太热门了,此时此刻它就是中国海军的旗帜,就像美国的陆战队刚刚解决了F35B的问题那样,16号是一艘活生生的,正在呼吸的航母,如果好比1911手枪,现在它已经进入第三阶段,弹夹充满子弹,随时可以扣动扳机。

贴2)对于一个身于加拿大的香港人兴奋与中国崛起的回复
Yes,and as I stated, we would know when it happened, makes you feel like a man doesn't it air, proud and somehow better and safer and stronger, thats why I encouraged everyone to relax about air ops and let the sailors enjoy their ship, because now they have an aircraft carrier, when you're strong, you can afford to kind and honorable.
对,就像我说过的,当这一天到来时,我们会知道的,让人们觉得轻飘飘的,自豪,安全而强大。这是为什么我告诉每个执行飞行任务的人要放松,让海员们享受他们的海上之家,现在他们有的是一艘航母!当你强大了,你就能面对各种恐惧。

贴3)这是更早的一帖,关于讨论航母以及舰载机的真实性
If you look back in the old thread I stated several times that we would see pictures when it did occur and I stand by that. The PLAN is looking like a real Navy now and doing things up front and out in the open, and the do care about their fans here on Sino D. AFB
如果你看过去的帖子,我说过很多次了,当它发生时我们自然会看到照片,而且我正兴奋地等待着。现在中国海军看起来像个真正的蓝海海军了,而且更加开放,你看,他们很照顾sino这里像我这样的粉丝(第一时间就能看到照片和视频)



总结,就像空军版的德国军迷(迷我空兔)deino一样,我国三军在国外已经有了不少的粉丝,而且大多数都是专业级的,甚至很多是军人出身。而在世界各地,期待盼望着中国崛起的,大有人在。

就用sino上面我们海外军迷的评论对话好结束好了
A:is it the time to bust the tower now? I mean the flyby.

B:Yes Goose, Its time to Buzz the Tower!


再来悄悄ID :Jeff Head这位老美在做啥
e2c-liaoning-01.jpg
e2c-liaoning-02.jpg
是的他把E2C放到自己的辽宁上看了看起降J15的起降机的大小....
(我在想,辽宁的模型哪儿买的?)
正文就不翻译了,首先是英国的网友评论。

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  colin ? 2 hours 31 minutes ago
  Well that’s one more carrier and one more carrier capable plane than we’ve got.
  Well done Dave for scrapping the carriers and Harriers just when we needed them.
  一艘又一艘可以起落舰载机的航母超过我们。我们那些官老爷们呢?我们需要航母,可他们却毁灭他们。
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  CARVER ? 2 hours 27 minutes ago
  more people speak Chinese than in this world owing to the fact that there are more of them than all of the rest of us added together
  很快这个世界就会有越来越多的人说中文了,因为他们比我们其他人全部加起来多要多。
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  ZIONIST ? 9 minutes ago
  English is the predominant language - the language of the internet, Carver.
  英语还是最重要的语言,也是互联网的语言。

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  ZIONIST ? 7 minutes ago
  The Language you used for your post, Carver - people have trouble understanding little squares ! - LOL.
  中文只能属于过去。人们很难理解那些方块文字。

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  DerekP ? 1 hour 47 minutes ago
  Is the West blind to what’s going on here? China has done more to destroy our manufacturing base than ever the Luftwaffe did in WW2. That was a direct and obvious attack and it nearly worked. China has done the same surreptitiously and they HAVE succeeded. They have the monopoly on the production of most of our goods. They have developed Armed Forces that dwarf all other nations. Now this. Shouldn’t we be thinking about their next move? Are you still here Mr Cameron, as OUR armed forces are progressively being emasculated? We are bankrupt and defenceless. I’m off to find Chinese language lessons.
  整个西方对正在发生的视而不见吗?中国正在不断地蚕食和摧毁我们的工厂,工业,比二战时候的希特勒还要凶残。这是直接的赤裸裸的进攻,而且很有效。他们垄断了我们所有的产品。他们还拼命地发展军力来吓唬其他的国家。现在,难道我们还能保持沉默,还能不警惕他们下一步的动作吗?卡梅伦先生啊,我求求你了,赶快武装我们的军队把。我们都破产了,毫无自卫能力了。即使中国占领了英国,我发誓我将来也绝对不会学一句中文的。

(擦,三哥居然说全世界都称自己是兔子~~)   
看来我们应该建立一支海外兵团了
这还只是开始,用一些神棍的话说后面应当还有惊喜。。
专业果然和喷子不一样
楼猪,内容太少了
原视频不是有过fly by了吗?
太强大了。 简直可以成为老军迷了。
不愧是老油条啊
楼主给个链接吧?
素质,什么叫做素质,刚刚的。
最后那个对话是top gun里面 Maverick 和goose的对话吧?
搜了一下,主贴引用的部分话出现在两个网站上,但应该不是原帖。难道Sinodefenceforum屏蔽了搜索么?搜索结果显示:
“该网站可能遭到了攻击”。。
   我看了看德国的网站和美国的网站,基本上人家认为中国取得了一定的成绩,但是辽宁舰不是美国的对手,对于这个我想在这里大家没有非议吧. 这个叫sinodefense网站上有不少人曾经在美军中服役,他们的帖子大多非常理性。
    但是有一点很清楚,德国人比较理性,而美国人充满愤怒,嘲讽,挖苦,并有很多人带有憎恨,说什么中国造的航母好啊,使用寿命估计只有5个小时,等等,连华尔街日报的读者(聪明,富有,很多有高学历)也是一样!!!!

    这使我联想到奥巴马,很多美国人有以下极端的看法: 奥巴马是我们美国的敌人;奥巴马憎恨美国并且要毁掉美国,因为他是MSL;奥巴马是外国人;奥巴马是独裁者;奥巴马会收缴我们的枪械,因为他崇拜希特勒.
     以下是一些美国人关于这次试飞的评论。

1). Congratulations for landing a plane on a ship in 2012....
2). Nice Ship bought with American money made on the sales of Chinese made goods here in the US.
3). China's warning to the U.S. is why I'd like to see ALL of our industry leave that country.
4). SINK IT NOW !
5). lets hope its built like all the other chinese items they make
6). China is killing us with toys, electronic gadgets, home appliances, shoes, clothes, food products, jewelry and kitchenware, not fighter planes.
7). That is alot of lead base paint!!
8). China got the "Old Used Car Lot Deal" Hardly Used, Runs Like A Dream....
9). Its great for target pratice..... for U.S.
10). It's all trickle down to "Made in China"; labeled everywhere in your house. lol!
11). My Dad fought them in Korea, they are not our friends!
12). AND IT CAN BE CONVERTED..... into a Junk fishing trawler, and sails in just minutes!
13). LOL...available at WalMart for $99.95
14). Getting prepared for eminent domain on US soil . Thanks regime ! fuck ing fuck ers.
15). I couldn't help but notice that tag that read.......MADE POSSIBLE BY AMERICA
16). Chinese never build anything they did not steal first.
17). You can thank Wal Mart for funding this.
应该是咱们的技术很熟练,看看新闻视频中15降落前一刹那甲板上站着着的舰员,表情很放松,很自在,没有丝毫的紧张感,这表明早已成功了多次,已经不是问题了
内容太少看的不过瘾
请求低空俯冲塔台~~~!
我看了看德国的网站和美国的网站,基本上人家认为中国取得了一定的成绩,但是辽宁舰不是美国的对手,对于这 ...
手机党求翻译啊,我可怜的英语成绩
nra1941 发表于 2012-11-28 09:24
我看了看德国的网站和美国的网站,基本上人家认为中国取得了一定的成绩,但是辽宁舰不是美国的对手,对于这 ...
美国人的这个反应很有意思,既然这么讨厌奥巴马为啥他还连任了?支持奥巴马的难道不上网?不过西方网络上喷子似乎少些,技术流比较多。
MD强大就在于他们有很多人会分析这个事情对中国的影响和意义,至于对MD有什么影响?还用不着说。

    自信和强大在字里行间,我们还要继续加油
美国人的这个反应很有意思,既然这么讨厌奥巴马为啥他还连任了?支持奥巴马的难道不上网?不过西方网络上 ...
奥巴马连任主要是美国的少数族裔投票!美国白人投票大多数不是投给了他!
似乎所有内行人看的都是人的表现, 体系的协同, 他们很少讨论硬件.
为什么只有中宣部而没有海外宣传部
任何美国以及北约的航母战机驾驶员都可以离开语言的交流在这艘船上降落了,只需要遵从那些指示就好..........就是说指令和北约一样?
nsa2000 发表于 2012-11-28 10:57
任何美国以及北约的航母战机驾驶员都可以离开语言的交流在这艘船上降落了,只需要遵从那些指示就好........ ...
专业人士没有喷PLA抄袭,嘻嘻。
三面红旗 发表于 2012-11-28 10:14
美国人的这个反应很有意思,既然这么讨厌奥巴马为啥他还连任了?支持奥巴马的难道不上网?不过西方网络上 ...
     只有大概三分之一的人这么看!!!!
这里是youtube版的狂欢会(歼15首次起降),天呐!瞧那些航母上的中国士兵已经被训练得如此专业,任何美国以及北约的航母战机驾驶员都可以离开语言的交流在这艘船上降落了,只需要遵从那些指示就好,这太卓越了。

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专业的地勤也是航母战斗力之一。。
估计美国的航母舰员看见我们的服装系统和手势都和他们完全相同,会觉得很亲切吧
啥时候邀请和美帝交流一下,他们在辽宁舰上起降,我们在他们的舰上起降。。。
有老美的原帖链接吗?我想看看。
iphone4s 发表于 2012-11-28 09:36
应该是咱们的技术很熟练,看看新闻视频中15降落前一刹那甲板上站着着的舰员,表情很放松,很自在,没有丝毫 ...
内行人看着前面的动作就知道OK,怎么会到最后了还紧张
训练有素的人看见出问题,也只会做出解决问题的应急反应,不会傻紧张的
以前我们做试验时,就算被炸个灰头土脸,首先的反应就是把该按的按钮按完,然后冲出去喷灭火器。。。。。
喷完没用就脚底抹油,逃。。。。。
这就是专业和喷喷的区别
外面弹赞皆有。
dsandy1 发表于 2012-11-28 11:14
有老美的原帖链接吗?我想看看。
去sinodefence.com,论坛的海军版,航母贴(2),从56页开始是有人发布了起降的图片
至少要4到6艘啊,能保证4艘执勤,2艘整备状态才能算是初步完成蓝海海军的计划。
superlovenavy 发表于 2012-11-28 04:16
太强大了。 简直可以成为老军迷了。
那是老兵,老飞飞
RAF 发表于 2012-11-28 05:25
楼主给个链接吧?
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/navy/plan-carrier-operations-news-videos-photos-ii-56-6173.html

自己顺着看吧,最先是56页某楼有位小巴兄弟贴了起降照片,然后后面的回复开始各种了
美国人的这个反应很有意思,既然这么讨厌奥巴马为啥他还连任了?支持奥巴马的难道不上网?不过西方网络上 ...
因为财团让观海连任
——他们为选民提供了一个更烂的桃子
啥时候邀请和美帝交流一下,他们在辽宁舰上起降,我们在他们的舰上起降。。。
能互相降落,但互相起飞似乎够呛,歼15如果兼容弹射技术,那么估计也能在美国航母上起飞,f18想要滑跃,则更挑战美国飞行员的勇气了(对了,主轮距满足要求的前提下…)
果然不是霓虹、弯弯可比的
模型是库的
挡焰板是三块的
大砍号是整块的