三菱争取替换h2火箭

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日本的h2火箭由于成本高,到目前为止都是为日本政府发射卫星的,只有一个韩国卫星的例外。
为此日本三菱在争取经费来研制新的火箭取代目前的h2。
技术上讲,日本要研制的新火箭将争取减少火箭在发射和各级分离时的振动,减少液氢在发射前后的挥发损失。
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Mitsubishi Pushes For H-IIA And H-IIB Replacement

By Bradley Perrett

Source: Aviation Week & Space Technology
October 15, 2012

Bradley Perrett Nagoya, Japan

It might be called an aerospace wrinkle in the problem of Japan's aging population: the impending retirement of a cohort of engineers who have experience in developing large space launchers. If the Japanese government does not act soon, these people will be playing leisurely rounds of golf while their successors struggle to relearn old lessons.

With that in mind, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries is urging the government to move immediately on developing a new family of space launchers. While other countries might shrug off the problem and just make do indefinitely with current equipment, Japan is in a less comfortable position, because its H-IIA and H-IIB rockets are notoriously expensive to launch. Moreover, those two launchers are caught in an economic trap: Their costs are so high, especially once yen are converted to dollars, that they can rarely be used commercially, so the production and launch infrastructure behind them cannot be worked fast enough to drive down those expenses.

Mitsubishi Heavy, which builds and operates the launchers mainly for the government, does have plans to improve the H-IIA, however, partly addressing limitations imposed by launches from Tanegashima, an island much farther from the equator than competing launch sites.

The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has previously outlined plans for the replacement launcher family, H-X, which would be based on the LE-X engine (AW&ST Aug. 8, 2011, p. 52). The agency has promoted the family's modularity as offering lower costs. These need to be halved, says the senior general manager of Mitsubishi Heavy's space systems business, Shoichiro Asada.

Japan needs to use the H-IIA and H-IIB four times a year to provide enough work for suppliers to be profitable, according to the company's calculations, although Mitsubishi Heavy itself can cope with a lower rate because it is a big business with the flexibility to move staff between divisions.

Asada also points to two further requirements for the new system. One would be shorter periods between booking and executing a launch. For the H-IIA, that is currently 1.5 years.

The second improvement would be to vibrate the payload less than other rockets do, easing design satellite requirements or improving reliability. Space launchers shake their payloads severely due to engine noise, aerodynamic effects and the impulse from the separation mechanisms. The H-IIA does that at least as much as its competitors, says Asada, adding that a new family would improve in all three areas.
日本的h2火箭由于成本高,到目前为止都是为日本政府发射卫星的,只有一个韩国卫星的例外。
为此日本三菱在争取经费来研制新的火箭取代目前的h2。
技术上讲,日本要研制的新火箭将争取减少火箭在发射和各级分离时的振动,减少液氢在发射前后的挥发损失。
http://www.aviationweek.com/Arti ... 2012_p28-504957.xml

Mitsubishi Pushes For H-IIA And H-IIB Replacement

By Bradley Perrett

Source: Aviation Week & Space Technology
October 15, 2012

Bradley Perrett Nagoya, Japan

It might be called an aerospace wrinkle in the problem of Japan's aging population: the impending retirement of a cohort of engineers who have experience in developing large space launchers. If the Japanese government does not act soon, these people will be playing leisurely rounds of golf while their successors struggle to relearn old lessons.

With that in mind, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries is urging the government to move immediately on developing a new family of space launchers. While other countries might shrug off the problem and just make do indefinitely with current equipment, Japan is in a less comfortable position, because its H-IIA and H-IIB rockets are notoriously expensive to launch. Moreover, those two launchers are caught in an economic trap: Their costs are so high, especially once yen are converted to dollars, that they can rarely be used commercially, so the production and launch infrastructure behind them cannot be worked fast enough to drive down those expenses.

Mitsubishi Heavy, which builds and operates the launchers mainly for the government, does have plans to improve the H-IIA, however, partly addressing limitations imposed by launches from Tanegashima, an island much farther from the equator than competing launch sites.

The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has previously outlined plans for the replacement launcher family, H-X, which would be based on the LE-X engine (AW&ST Aug. 8, 2011, p. 52). The agency has promoted the family's modularity as offering lower costs. These need to be halved, says the senior general manager of Mitsubishi Heavy's space systems business, Shoichiro Asada.

Japan needs to use the H-IIA and H-IIB four times a year to provide enough work for suppliers to be profitable, according to the company's calculations, although Mitsubishi Heavy itself can cope with a lower rate because it is a big business with the flexibility to move staff between divisions.

Asada also points to two further requirements for the new system. One would be shorter periods between booking and executing a launch. For the H-IIA, that is currently 1.5 years.

The second improvement would be to vibrate the payload less than other rockets do, easing design satellite requirements or improving reliability. Space launchers shake their payloads severely due to engine noise, aerodynamic effects and the impulse from the separation mechanisms. The H-IIA does that at least as much as its competitors, says Asada, adding that a new family would improve in all three areas.
只要还是氢氧机芯+固推助推器的组合,能便宜到哪去
楚凌风 发表于 2012-10-19 14:18
只要还是氢氧机芯+固推助推器的组合,能便宜到哪去
的确这样。
日本人也是和西欧人一样勉强自己:高技术的高压补燃煤油火箭做不了,吃老本政府又没钱了。
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制抵日货,让小日本揭不开锅
这个预算是放在哪一部分里的?军费都削减了,鬼子还有闲钱搞这东西
楚凌风 发表于 2012-10-19 14:18
只要还是氢氧机芯+固推助推器的组合,能便宜到哪去
便宜到阿里安5的水平去
减少振动,是为了载人考虑吗?
H2至少还发射过一颗越南卫星,而且记忆中不止这两颗外国星的……
dark_knight 发表于 2012-10-19 15:57
便宜到阿里安5的水平去
MD不把系在日元上的狗链松开~真难。
emellzzq 发表于 2012-10-19 17:04
MD不把系在日元上的狗链松开~真难。
论题要集中不要发散
不是有H2B了吗
axsuper 发表于 2012-10-19 15:58
减少振动,是为了载人考虑吗?
该文章没有这样说,只是说减少震动可以降低对卫星本身的抗震要求,可以降低成本。
zick 发表于 2012-10-19 16:03
H2至少还发射过一颗越南卫星,而且记忆中不止这两颗外国星的……
你可以去和“航空周刊”申诉。。。
魔天道 发表于 2012-10-20 03:49
不是有H2B了吗
成本高,要被替换的就是h2b和h2a
H2A还是很先进的!鬼子又要研制新火箭了?
rongzhili.au 发表于 2012-10-20 07:45
你可以去和“航空周刊”申诉。。。
申诉神马的我没有兴趣,我只是就事论事而已。
lmxhdl 发表于 2012-10-20 19:53
H2A还是很先进的!鬼子又要研制新火箭了?
对商业火箭来说,只是技术先进,就等于完全失败。
lmxhdl 发表于 2012-10-20 19:53
H2A还是很先进的!鬼子又要研制新火箭了?
没有日本h2a/h2b技术先进的证据。起码从这篇报道证明,日本火箭的振动远远达不到中国俄国能够栽人的水平,甚至连运输卫星都有问题。
只要还是氢氧机芯+固推助推器的组合,能便宜到哪去
才打了几发就要换,太浪费了。
H2从技术积累角度来看不错,但商业运营的话就只能呵呵了
对商业火箭来说,只是技术先进,就等于完全失败。
lju68811 发表于 2012-10-21 14:30
只要还是氢氧机芯+固推助推器的组合,能便宜到哪去
确实啊,而且是高技术的分级燃烧氢氧机。


这个我记得用的是1百50吨的膨胀循环氢氧发动机吧?如果能搞成,也算是一大贡献。

这个我记得用的是1百50吨的膨胀循环氢氧发动机吧?如果能搞成,也算是一大贡献。
这么说印度的火箭也不便宜?
清晖 发表于 2012-10-26 10:38
这么说印度的火箭也不便宜?
印度的火箭肯定不便宜,否则他们不会把自己的卫星交给最贵的欧洲火箭发射了。