[译文转载] 【炫耀还成风了？】炫耀飞机的人又跑到美国 ...

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Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:10 No.12834891Replies: >>12834931 >>12835297 >>1283666
the Varyag is in service now!
瓦良格服役了！
龙腾网版权所有 http://www.ltaaa.comIt's new name: CNS CV16 "LIAONING"
名字叫做 ： CNS CV16 【辽宁】



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:11 No.12834900
part of the comissioning ceremony
服役的庆功会的一部分

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:11 No.12834901Replies: >>12834907
Is it commissioned?
它服役了？



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:11 No.12834907Replies: >>12834917 >>12834944
>>12834901
yes.
是的。
It would join the North Sea Fleet.
它将会加入北海舰队。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:12 No.12834917Replies: >>12834927
>>12834907
also, lol.
笑翻了。
Same trucks as on the USN CVs.
这个卡车跟美国航母上的完全一样啊。



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:13 No.12834927Replies: >>12834953
>>12834917
The escorts are... WIP
护航舰...还在建造
Luyang-III class DDG Type 052D launched and fitting out.
Type 052D旅洋III级导弹驱逐舰

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:15 No.12834944Replies: >>12834969
>>12834907
It says it's been handed over from the shipyard to the navy, it doesn't say that it's been commissioned yet
只是说从船厂交付海军了，没说已经服役了。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:15 No.12834949
isnt that just some converted russian POS they bought?
这个就是他们从俄国买的改装的烂货？




Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:15 No.12834953
>>12834927
64 VLS at 6.600 tons and some very advanced AESA radars... Not too bad for their first true fleet defense destroyer.
64个垂发，6.600吨排水量，一些很先进的有源相控阵雷达...作为他们第一个真正的舰队防御驱逐舰已经不错了
Kinda Burke 2/3
差不多是伯克级的 2/3

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:16 No.12834960
Well, maybe that one day, China will enter the blue-water-navies club...
也许哪天中国就会加入蓝水海军的行列

But currently, the PLAN is still as sh@tty as the Russian Navy, even with a carrier.
但是现在，中国海军仍然和俄国海军一样烂，即使有航母

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:17 No.12834969
>>12834944

Well, high brass was there and with the ceremony being so formal and atypical of other yard-hand-overs, people suggest that it was the commissioning.
在仪式上，高硬黄铜的出现就表明了仪式是很正式的交付。人们认为这个是服役。

Espeically because the pennant numbers are already painted, which also indicates commissioning.
特别是信号旗的号码已经被涂上了，这也说明了这艘航母服役了。



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:18 No.12834973

>Chinese carriers
>worth mentioning
中国航母，值得提一下


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:18 No.12834975Replies: >>12834995
What planes will it carry? Flankers clones or something fresher?
它会带什么飞机？苏27的山寨还是什么其他的新东西？



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:20 No.12834995Replies: >>12835009 >>12835040

>>12834975

For now, Flanker clones dubbed J-15. They are upgraded though and suitable for surface strike roles as they have multi-role AESAs.
现在，苏27的山寨被叫做J-15。它们被升级了，拥有有源相控阵雷达，更适合于水面打击。

For the future, the J-31 will be the premiere Chinese carrier fighter. also built by the same company who cloned the Flanker.
将来，J-31 将会是中国航母的主要舰载机。也是由造苏27山寨机的相同的公司来造。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:21 No.12835003Replies: >>12835030

>21st century
>skijump
21世纪，滑跳式甲板

Is it really that hard to make a steam powered catapult or do eastern nations have a very different idea of how to use carriers? Is this carrier still a carrier/missile-cruiser hybrid like the original or is it just a carrier now?
造个蒸汽弹射器真的很难么？还是那些东方国家有其他的方法？这个航母是个【航母/导弹巡航舰的混合体】还是只是个【航母】？

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:21 No.12835009

>>12834995
Pretty much a twin engined F-35...
很像一个两个引擎的F-35...


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:23 No.12835030Replies: >>12835050 >>12835106

>>12835003

It is a refitted Russian 80's carrier for the Chinese to learn the basics about carrier handling and operation.
图里的是中国再建了一个模仿俄国80年代的

Future Chinese carriers will feature EMAL, as they are already developing.
将来中国航母会装备电磁弹射器，他们现在正在开发。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:24 No.12835040Replies: >>12835078
>>12834995
They still can't do strike roles. Their take off weight is limited due to the ski jump.
它们还做不了打击任务的角色。滑跳式甲板限制了起飞重量。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:24 No.12835050Replies: >>12835115
>>12835030
Be interesting to see how fast China can crank out carriers considering the insane rate that they're building destroyers and frigates
看看中国如何像泡沫似的快速建造航母，想想他们造驱逐舰和护卫舰时候的疯狂速度。



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:24 No.12835052Replies: >>12835148 >>12835211 >>12835435

all CV's compared.
所有航母的比较
Varyag/Liaoning isnt that bad of a first shot for a young carrier navy.
瓦良格/辽宁 对于一个年轻的海军的第一艘航母来说不错了 。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:26 No.12835078
>>12835040
Yeah, even from the B position the Flankers would only gain minimal T/O weight.
即使从B点升空，苏27也只能得到最小的 T/O 重量。
In the end, the J-15's will only expand their role from air-defense fighter to anti-ship strikers with limited range contributing to the anti-surface capability of the fleet.
最后，J-15也只能扮演一个从【空中防卫的战斗机】到【有限范围的对海攻击的反舰轰炸机】的角色。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:28 No.12835106Replies: >>12835122
>>12835030
Why not just flatten the deck and fit the catapult and not be hampered?
为什么不把甲板弄平，再安装上弹射器？


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:29 No.12835115Replies: >>12835126
>>12835050
how fast are they making destroyers?
他们造驱逐舰有多快？


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:29 No.12835122
>>12835106
Probably because they're still developing it
可能因为他们还在开发弹射器
The Varyag is mainly a testing ground for Chinese naval aviation
瓦良格主要是一个中国海军航空兵的训练舰



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:30 No.12835126Replies: >>12835135
>>12835115
very.
非常快。
Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:31 No.12835135Replies: >>12835146 >>12835217>>12835126

each year sees around 4 guided missile frigates and three destroyers launched.
每年能看到四艘导弹护卫舰和三艘导弹驱逐舰下水。

among other sh@t like corvettes, missile boats, subs etc. that cant be counted as well.
其他的诸如小型护卫舰，导弹艇，潜艇等等，都没被算进去。



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:32 No.12835146Replies: >>12835152
>>12835135
most of them are simultaniously launched.
它们大部分都是同时下水的。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:32 No.12835148Replies: >>12835159
>>12835052
Btw the Queen Elizabeth don't even currently exist.
说一句 ，伊丽莎白女王号已经不存在了。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:33 No.12835152Replies: >>12835185
>>12835146
and DDG's
和导弹驱逐舰

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:33 No.12835159
>>12835148
Well neither does the Ford class yet
福德级也不存在了


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:35 No.12835185Replies: >>12835255
>>12835152
still it's not like they have a lot of truly modern crap. They don't have anything comparable to an Arleigh Burke
中国仍然还没有很多的真正的现代化的船。他们没有能和阿利·伯克级驱逐舰相同水平的驱逐舰。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:38 No.12835217Replies: >>12835234
>>12835135
From 2000 to 2012, The Chinese put 7 Modern surface warships in the water.
从2000年到2012年，中国下水了七艘现代化战舰。

Over the same time frame, the US put 30 modern warships in the water.
同时，美国下水了30艘现代化战舰。

They have a long way to go.
他们还有好长路要走。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:40 No.12835234Replies: >>12835246 >>12835291
>>12835217
Forgot the Frigates.
不算护卫舰。
Chinese 17 modern warships,
中国17艘现代化战舰
US 30 modern warships.
美国30艘现代化战舰
Lets not even compare submarines.
不要比潜艇。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:40 No.12835237
2nd cold war, anyone? I mean really.
第二次冷战？我说真的。
After the cold war, we realized we overestimated our enemy's tech greatly.
冷战之后，我们明白了我们太高估了对手的科技实力。
Now we're doing it again.
现在我们正在做相同的事。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:42 No.12835255Replies: >>12835357
>>12835185
Well, for their sensors, they are certainly up to the AB class (SPY-1 is PESA and the SM-2's need seperate FCRs, whereas Type-346 NATO-code "dragon eye" SAPARS are AESA and can simultanously guide all missiles while tracking and searching etc), but in terms of combat tonnage and missile load, you are right.
中国驱逐舰的传感器，肯定已经升级为AB级（SPY-1是被动相控阵雷达，标准2需要单独的火控雷达；然而Type-346北约代码【龙眼】SAPARS 是有源相控阵雷达，能够同时引导导弹和对空搜索跟踪），但是说到战斗吨位和导弹装填，你说的很对。

The Type 052C Luyang-II has only 48 SAM and eight ASMs at around 6000 tons, while the Type 054A FFGs have 32 SAM and eight ASM at 4000 tons.
Type 052C 导弹驱逐舰只有48个对空导弹和8个反舰导弹，差不多6000吨。
Type 054A 导弹护卫舰只有32个对空导弹和8个反舰导弹，差不多4000吨。

With the new 052D DDG they will have a 6.600ton DDG with 64 universal VLS for SAM and ASM load, which pretty much max's out the Type 052 series hull potential.
新的052D导弹驱逐舰有6600吨的有64个通用垂发（发射对空导弹和反舰导弹）的导弹驱逐舰。但是也耗尽了052系列的船体潜力。

If they want more bang for the buck, they have to invest in a new and heavier hull that can take a shiload of more VLS.
如果他们想装更多的东西上去，他们必须设计出一种新的更重的船体。这样才能安装更多的垂发装置。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:45 No.12835291Replies: >>12835368 >>12835381

>>12835234

Well, counting essential sh@t like modern replenishment ships and LPDs, hovercrafts and, yes, subs (conventional subs for the chinese), the number is kinda larger.
算一下现代化补给船、LPD运输船、气垫船和潜艇（中国的传统潜艇）， 数量还是挺多的。

But one has to compare China's defense buget with the US' defense buget.
但是还是要比较一下中国的国防预算和美国的国防预算。

If China wants, they could launch ten DDG's a year with the excess capacitiy theyhave today.
如果中国愿意，他们能用他们的冗余制造能力，在一年内让十艘导弹驱逐舰下水。

In fact, China's is very much restraining its naval growth.
实际上，中国已经很限制自己的海军军力了。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:50 No.12835356Replies: >>12835366

who'se training the chinese navy? Russia doesn't really have a naval tradition to speak of, and the two most experienced navy are the Royal navy and the US navy.
谁去训练中国海军？俄国可没有海军传统的。两个最有经验的海军是皇家海军和美国海军。

I doubt either of which are keen on teaching the Chinese.
我怀疑他们哪个都不愿意热心地去教中国

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:50 No.12835357Replies: >>12835478

>>12835255

Rumour say that the next PLAN DDG will be a cruiser-class tonnage warship designated Type 055.
传言说中国海军的下一个导弹驱逐舰Type 055是巡洋舰级。

The same rumours who have predicted the 052D's appearance this year, btw.
相同的传言预见052D今年出现。

China certainly acknowledges that their current destroyer platforms are dead-end designs and insufficient for further growth.
中国的反馈是他们的驱逐舰平台设计进了死胡同，对于将来发展已经不够了。

If China wants a DDG/CG with more than 100 VLS like the Ticonderoga or Sejong-class, they need a larger platform.
如果中国想要超过100个垂发的导弹驱逐舰（提康德罗加级导弹巡洋舰，世宗大王级驱逐舰），他们需要一个更大的平台。

All other subsystems, even the engines are ready. Only the political will to truely escalate production isnt, apparently.
其他全部的子系统，甚至引擎也要准备好。很明显，只有政治决心可不能加速生产。

这位跑去和美国军宅炫耀航母，被一顿打脸。


不过美国军宅的回复里有一些东西很有深度，也就算是抛砖引玉吧。
【完】



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Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:10 No.12834891Replies: >>12834931 >>12835297 >>1283666
the Varyag is in service now!
瓦良格服役了！
龙腾网版权所有 http://www.ltaaa.comIt's new name: CNS CV16 "LIAONING"
名字叫做 ： CNS CV16 【辽宁】



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:11 No.12834900
part of the comissioning ceremony
服役的庆功会的一部分

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:11 No.12834901Replies: >>12834907
Is it commissioned?
它服役了？



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:11 No.12834907Replies: >>12834917 >>12834944
>>12834901
yes.
是的。
It would join the North Sea Fleet.
它将会加入北海舰队。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:12 No.12834917Replies: >>12834927
>>12834907
also, lol.
笑翻了。
Same trucks as on the USN CVs.
这个卡车跟美国航母上的完全一样啊。



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:13 No.12834927Replies: >>12834953
>>12834917
The escorts are... WIP
护航舰...还在建造
Luyang-III class DDG Type 052D launched and fitting out.
Type 052D旅洋III级导弹驱逐舰

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:15 No.12834944Replies: >>12834969
>>12834907
It says it's been handed over from the shipyard to the navy, it doesn't say that it's been commissioned yet
只是说从船厂交付海军了，没说已经服役了。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:15 No.12834949
isnt that just some converted russian POS they bought?
这个就是他们从俄国买的改装的烂货？




Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:15 No.12834953
>>12834927
64 VLS at 6.600 tons and some very advanced AESA radars... Not too bad for their first true fleet defense destroyer.
64个垂发，6.600吨排水量，一些很先进的有源相控阵雷达...作为他们第一个真正的舰队防御驱逐舰已经不错了
Kinda Burke 2/3
差不多是伯克级的 2/3

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:16 No.12834960
Well, maybe that one day, China will enter the blue-water-navies club...
也许哪天中国就会加入蓝水海军的行列

But currently, the PLAN is still as sh@tty as the Russian Navy, even with a carrier.
但是现在，中国海军仍然和俄国海军一样烂，即使有航母

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:17 No.12834969
>>12834944

Well, high brass was there and with the ceremony being so formal and atypical of other yard-hand-overs, people suggest that it was the commissioning.
在仪式上，高硬黄铜的出现就表明了仪式是很正式的交付。人们认为这个是服役。

Espeically because the pennant numbers are already painted, which also indicates commissioning.
特别是信号旗的号码已经被涂上了，这也说明了这艘航母服役了。



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:18 No.12834973

>Chinese carriers
>worth mentioning
中国航母，值得提一下


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:18 No.12834975Replies: >>12834995
What planes will it carry? Flankers clones or something fresher?
它会带什么飞机？苏27的山寨还是什么其他的新东西？



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:20 No.12834995Replies: >>12835009 >>12835040

>>12834975

For now, Flanker clones dubbed J-15. They are upgraded though and suitable for surface strike roles as they have multi-role AESAs.
现在，苏27的山寨被叫做J-15。它们被升级了，拥有有源相控阵雷达，更适合于水面打击。

For the future, the J-31 will be the premiere Chinese carrier fighter. also built by the same company who cloned the Flanker.
将来，J-31 将会是中国航母的主要舰载机。也是由造苏27山寨机的相同的公司来造。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:21 No.12835003Replies: >>12835030

>21st century
>skijump
21世纪，滑跳式甲板

Is it really that hard to make a steam powered catapult or do eastern nations have a very different idea of how to use carriers? Is this carrier still a carrier/missile-cruiser hybrid like the original or is it just a carrier now?
造个蒸汽弹射器真的很难么？还是那些东方国家有其他的方法？这个航母是个【航母/导弹巡航舰的混合体】还是只是个【航母】？

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:21 No.12835009

>>12834995
Pretty much a twin engined F-35...
很像一个两个引擎的F-35...


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:23 No.12835030Replies: >>12835050 >>12835106

>>12835003

It is a refitted Russian 80's carrier for the Chinese to learn the basics about carrier handling and operation.
图里的是中国再建了一个模仿俄国80年代的

Future Chinese carriers will feature EMAL, as they are already developing.
将来中国航母会装备电磁弹射器，他们现在正在开发。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:24 No.12835040Replies: >>12835078
>>12834995
They still can't do strike roles. Their take off weight is limited due to the ski jump.
它们还做不了打击任务的角色。滑跳式甲板限制了起飞重量。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:24 No.12835050Replies: >>12835115
>>12835030
Be interesting to see how fast China can crank out carriers considering the insane rate that they're building destroyers and frigates
看看中国如何像泡沫似的快速建造航母，想想他们造驱逐舰和护卫舰时候的疯狂速度。



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:24 No.12835052Replies: >>12835148 >>12835211 >>12835435

all CV's compared.
所有航母的比较
Varyag/Liaoning isnt that bad of a first shot for a young carrier navy.
瓦良格/辽宁 对于一个年轻的海军的第一艘航母来说不错了 。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:26 No.12835078
>>12835040
Yeah, even from the B position the Flankers would only gain minimal T/O weight.
即使从B点升空，苏27也只能得到最小的 T/O 重量。
In the end, the J-15's will only expand their role from air-defense fighter to anti-ship strikers with limited range contributing to the anti-surface capability of the fleet.
最后，J-15也只能扮演一个从【空中防卫的战斗机】到【有限范围的对海攻击的反舰轰炸机】的角色。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:28 No.12835106Replies: >>12835122
>>12835030
Why not just flatten the deck and fit the catapult and not be hampered?
为什么不把甲板弄平，再安装上弹射器？


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:29 No.12835115Replies: >>12835126
>>12835050
how fast are they making destroyers?
他们造驱逐舰有多快？


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:29 No.12835122
>>12835106
Probably because they're still developing it
可能因为他们还在开发弹射器
The Varyag is mainly a testing ground for Chinese naval aviation
瓦良格主要是一个中国海军航空兵的训练舰



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:30 No.12835126Replies: >>12835135
>>12835115
very.
非常快。
Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:31 No.12835135Replies: >>12835146 >>12835217>>12835126

each year sees around 4 guided missile frigates and three destroyers launched.
每年能看到四艘导弹护卫舰和三艘导弹驱逐舰下水。

among other sh@t like corvettes, missile boats, subs etc. that cant be counted as well.
其他的诸如小型护卫舰，导弹艇，潜艇等等，都没被算进去。



Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:32 No.12835146Replies: >>12835152
>>12835135
most of them are simultaniously launched.
它们大部分都是同时下水的。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:32 No.12835148Replies: >>12835159
>>12835052
Btw the Queen Elizabeth don't even currently exist.
说一句 ，伊丽莎白女王号已经不存在了。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:33 No.12835152Replies: >>12835185
>>12835146
and DDG's
和导弹驱逐舰

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:33 No.12835159
>>12835148
Well neither does the Ford class yet
福德级也不存在了


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:35 No.12835185Replies: >>12835255
>>12835152
still it's not like they have a lot of truly modern crap. They don't have anything comparable to an Arleigh Burke
中国仍然还没有很多的真正的现代化的船。他们没有能和阿利·伯克级驱逐舰相同水平的驱逐舰。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:38 No.12835217Replies: >>12835234
>>12835135
From 2000 to 2012, The Chinese put 7 Modern surface warships in the water.
从2000年到2012年，中国下水了七艘现代化战舰。

Over the same time frame, the US put 30 modern warships in the water.
同时，美国下水了30艘现代化战舰。

They have a long way to go.
他们还有好长路要走。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:40 No.12835234Replies: >>12835246 >>12835291
>>12835217
Forgot the Frigates.
不算护卫舰。
Chinese 17 modern warships,
中国17艘现代化战舰
US 30 modern warships.
美国30艘现代化战舰
Lets not even compare submarines.
不要比潜艇。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:40 No.12835237
2nd cold war, anyone? I mean really.
第二次冷战？我说真的。
After the cold war, we realized we overestimated our enemy's tech greatly.
冷战之后，我们明白了我们太高估了对手的科技实力。
Now we're doing it again.
现在我们正在做相同的事。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:42 No.12835255Replies: >>12835357
>>12835185
Well, for their sensors, they are certainly up to the AB class (SPY-1 is PESA and the SM-2's need seperate FCRs, whereas Type-346 NATO-code "dragon eye" SAPARS are AESA and can simultanously guide all missiles while tracking and searching etc), but in terms of combat tonnage and missile load, you are right.
中国驱逐舰的传感器，肯定已经升级为AB级（SPY-1是被动相控阵雷达，标准2需要单独的火控雷达；然而Type-346北约代码【龙眼】SAPARS 是有源相控阵雷达，能够同时引导导弹和对空搜索跟踪），但是说到战斗吨位和导弹装填，你说的很对。

The Type 052C Luyang-II has only 48 SAM and eight ASMs at around 6000 tons, while the Type 054A FFGs have 32 SAM and eight ASM at 4000 tons.
Type 052C 导弹驱逐舰只有48个对空导弹和8个反舰导弹，差不多6000吨。
Type 054A 导弹护卫舰只有32个对空导弹和8个反舰导弹，差不多4000吨。

With the new 052D DDG they will have a 6.600ton DDG with 64 universal VLS for SAM and ASM load, which pretty much max's out the Type 052 series hull potential.
新的052D导弹驱逐舰有6600吨的有64个通用垂发（发射对空导弹和反舰导弹）的导弹驱逐舰。但是也耗尽了052系列的船体潜力。

If they want more bang for the buck, they have to invest in a new and heavier hull that can take a shiload of more VLS.
如果他们想装更多的东西上去，他们必须设计出一种新的更重的船体。这样才能安装更多的垂发装置。


Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:45 No.12835291Replies: >>12835368 >>12835381

>>12835234

Well, counting essential sh@t like modern replenishment ships and LPDs, hovercrafts and, yes, subs (conventional subs for the chinese), the number is kinda larger.
算一下现代化补给船、LPD运输船、气垫船和潜艇（中国的传统潜艇）， 数量还是挺多的。

But one has to compare China's defense buget with the US' defense buget.
但是还是要比较一下中国的国防预算和美国的国防预算。

If China wants, they could launch ten DDG's a year with the excess capacitiy theyhave today.
如果中国愿意，他们能用他们的冗余制造能力，在一年内让十艘导弹驱逐舰下水。

In fact, China's is very much restraining its naval growth.
实际上，中国已经很限制自己的海军军力了。

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:50 No.12835356Replies: >>12835366

who'se training the chinese navy? Russia doesn't really have a naval tradition to speak of, and the two most experienced navy are the Royal navy and the US navy.
谁去训练中国海军？俄国可没有海军传统的。两个最有经验的海军是皇家海军和美国海军。

I doubt either of which are keen on teaching the Chinese.
我怀疑他们哪个都不愿意热心地去教中国

Anonymous 09/23/12(Sun)19:50 No.12835357Replies: >>12835478

>>12835255

Rumour say that the next PLAN DDG will be a cruiser-class tonnage warship designated Type 055.
传言说中国海军的下一个导弹驱逐舰Type 055是巡洋舰级。

The same rumours who have predicted the 052D's appearance this year, btw.
相同的传言预见052D今年出现。

China certainly acknowledges that their current destroyer platforms are dead-end designs and insufficient for further growth.
中国的反馈是他们的驱逐舰平台设计进了死胡同，对于将来发展已经不够了。

If China wants a DDG/CG with more than 100 VLS like the Ticonderoga or Sejong-class, they need a larger platform.
如果中国想要超过100个垂发的导弹驱逐舰（提康德罗加级导弹巡洋舰，世宗大王级驱逐舰），他们需要一个更大的平台。

All other subsystems, even the engines are ready. Only the political will to truely escalate production isnt, apparently.
其他全部的子系统，甚至引擎也要准备好。很明显，只有政治决心可不能加速生产。

这位跑去和美国军宅炫耀航母，被一顿打脸。


不过美国军宅的回复里有一些东西很有深度，也就算是抛砖引玉吧。
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