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话题：Young cannabis smokers run risk of lower IQ
                吸食大麻会损害年轻人的智商
Young people who smoke cannabis run the risk of a significant and irreversible reduction in their IQ, research suggests.
研究表明：年轻人吸食大麻会将永久性损害智商
full article here:
原文链接
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19372456 （来自BBC的新闻）
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原文大意：
据英国《每日电讯报》8月27日报道，英国伦敦大学国王学院和美国杜克大学的科学家研究发现，那些青少年时期经常吸食大麻的人智商（IQ）会永久性降低，晚年也更有可能出现注意力以及记忆力问题。
科学家对新西兰达尼丁市（Dunedin）1972年和1973年出生的1000人进行跟踪研究，分别调查了他们在18岁、21岁、32岁以及38岁时的大麻使用情况，并在对比了他们13岁和38岁时的智商数据。
研究显示，青少年时期即开始持续使用大麻的人中，38岁时的IQ值比13岁时低8点。所谓的持续使用是指在至少3年的时间里每周至少吸食大麻4次。
科学家称，青少年大麻使用者的IQ下降最为明显。IQ是是决定一个人能否上大学、能否找到好工作、会不会出现心脏病、老年痴呆症甚至早死的重要因素。
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Young cannabis smokers run risk of lower IQ
Young people who smoke cannabis run the risk of a significant and irreversible reduction in their IQ, research suggests.
full article here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19372456
ive always suspected that weed isnt as harmless as others suggest. the government is doing the right thing by keeping it illegal. the excuse that "its just a plant" doesnt fly; poison ivy is a plant too, but people dont seem too eager to smoke/eat it. of course studies pop up every few years that contradict each other, and the media always hypes things up. nonetheless, if you read the article you'll notice it's a fairly well conducted LONG term (25 year) study with a significant enough body of data (1000 people)
BBC的一篇文章指出年轻人长期吸食大麻会损害智商
我一直怀疑大麻是不是像别人建议的那样无害。政府通过做一些正确的事情来保持违法性！而借口就是“只是一个植物”所以它不能起到大作用。毒葛也是一种植物，但是人们看起来似乎并不是那么渴望去吸食/吃掉它！当然每隔几年，研究报告就会突然炸出来去互相反驳，同时媒体也总是在炒作！尽管如此，如果你阅读了这篇文章你就会留意到这是个不错的长期研究！她提供了足够的身体数据（1000人）
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ronin1701  
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Good thing I'm not young any more  
好事！不过我不再是年轻人了！
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flash67  
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Probably took the IQ test high anyways.
不管怎么样大概智商都测试的很高。。。
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rommelrommel  
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  You could say the same thing about tv, or video games, or junk food, or porn. Lots of decisions change you irreversably... doesn't really mean that they should be illegal. And even if it should be illegal for "young people" it doesn't really follow that it should be illgal for everyone.
LZ：
你说同样地对于电视、视频游戏、或者垃圾食品或者色情产品而言。很多决定都不可逆转的改变了你。。。（这不不意味着）这些就应该都是违法的！还有，尽管这对于“年轻人”而言是违法的，但这不意味着对每个人都是！
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fakishan  
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OP just proved even none smokers have low IQs.
观察员只是证明了就算是不吸食的也会低智商。
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Teh_Canadian  
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You should look into cannabis use and abuse. Surprisingly it isn't as bad as you most likely think it to be, and most studies aren't done to provide unbiased information. If you're truly interested just PM or reply and I'll supply you with some great studies / links. Also if you haven't seen it already, watch The Union (its on Netflix!).
回LZ：
你应该去看看大麻的滥用。令人震惊的是，他并不像你想象中的那么糟糕，同时大多数的研究并不能提供公正的信息。如果你感兴趣的话，那就点我或者回复我，我会给你提供一些伟大的研究/链接。另外，如果你从未见过的话，看看美国就知道了（视频在Netflix上可以找到）
PS：Netflix全球十大视频网站中唯一收费站点
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aTriangle  
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The study suggests that persistent cannabis use while the user's brain is still developing runs the risk of decreased IQ in adulthood. In other, less scientific words, if CHILDREN ABUSE marijuana for a VERY LONG TIME, it will be bad for them. The same is true for many things. If children abuse KFC for a very long time, it will be bad for them.
这项研究表明，在成年期持久的吸食大麻的时候，大麻使用者的大脑一直处于运行会有智商减少的风险！另外，少有科学发言说明，如果孩子们在很长一段时间内滥用大麻的话，这对他们将是糟糕的。这同样也适用于很多事情！如果孩子们在肯德基（用餐）自虐的时间越长，
这对他们也是糟糕的！
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iownyou  
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Not this again....
别再说这个了
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Isn't this obvious anyone that puts that poison into their body cannot be that bright of course they have lower IQ's.
很明显，这不是在针对所有人！当然，自己给自己的身体喂食毒药这是不明智！这些人的智商确实低！  
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Two wrongs doesn't equal a right. Its all in moderation.
两个错误不等于正确！凡事得适度！
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Cytosol  
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They studied 1,000 young users and found that people who used cannabis had lower IQ's. However, that doesn't mean the same thing as cannabis having some impact on the development of the brain or damaging it in some way. The article seems to suggest that conclusion, but I expect that's more a result of sensationalism rather than fact.
Smoking weed makes you lazy. There is no question about that. Kids who smoke weed will on average be lazier and have less motivation than others. This means that they will be less inclined to study or to go to school, which could make them underachievers. I bet you would see the same findings studying underage drinkers and kids that play videogames excessively.
Young people who smoke weed in moderation are fine. Young kids who abuse weed (again, like alcohol or videogames) will likely end up with problems. I got 'hooked' on weed at a young age and it was a significant factor in doing poorly in highschool and dropping out of college. However, I got my problem under control and have continued to smoke it occasionally throughout my 20's and now into my 30's. I've got a good job, make good money and am winning at life. Weed isn't the problem; abuse is.
他们研究了1000个年轻（吸食大麻）的用户，并且发现这些吸食大麻的智商都很低！然而，这同样也不意味着大麻会对大脑就有某些损害性的影响了！文章看起来是支持哪个结论，但是我认为这就是哗众取宠而非事实。
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吸食大麻会让你变得很懒。这毫无疑问。小孩子如果吸食大麻的话，那他们会比同龄人更懒更加没有动力！这也就意味着他们可能不大愿意去学习或者上学，这可能让他们变成差等生！我打赌你去看看关于未成年人饮酒或者过度沉迷电子游戏的研究，你会看到相同的结果！
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年轻人如果适量吸食的话那就很好！而小孩子如果过量吸食这些大麻的话（再说一次，同理就像酒精、电子游戏）将可能会导致一些问题了！我曾经在年前的时候染上“毒瘾”，那时候我在高中成绩不好，并且因为（成绩不好）而导致大学辍学的时候，而这（“毒瘾”）对我而言是有重大意义的！可是，在我20岁到现在30岁的时间里，我会把我的问题控制住，并且我一直是持续而又偶尔的抽烟！我现在已经有啦一份好工作，赚了不少钱并且享受着生活！大麻不是问题，滥用才是！
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Originally Posted by Cytosol  引用11L：
Young people who smoke weed in moderation are fine. Young kids who abuse weed (again, like alcohol or videogames) will likely end up with problems. I got 'hooked' on weed at a young age and it was a significant factor in doing poorly in highschool and dropping out of college.
How do you know that young people i.e. <18 years old who smoke weed in "moderation" are fine? And what is moderation, anyway?
回11L：
你如何认为未成年人（小于18岁）适量吸食大麻是不错的？还有，不管怎样，什么才是“适度”呢？
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Originally Posted by Cytosol 引用11L：
They studied 1,000 young users and found that people who used cannabis had lower IQ's. However, that doesn't mean the same thing as cannabis having some impact on the development of the brain or damaging it in some way. The article seems to suggest that conclusion, but I expect that's more a result of sensationalism rather than fact.
Smoking weed makes you lazy. There is no question about that. Kids who smoke weed will on average be lazier and have less motivation than others. This means that they will be less inclined to study or to go to school, which could make them underachievers. I bet you would see the same findings studying underage drinkers and kids that play videogames excessively.
Young people who smoke weed in moderation are fine. Young kids who abuse weed (again, like alcohol or videogames) will likely end up with problems. I got 'hooked' on weed at a young age and it was a significant factor in doing poorly in highschool and dropping out of college. However, I got my problem under control and have continued to smoke it occasionally throughout my 20's and now into my 30's. I've got a good job, make good money and am winning at life. Weed isn't the problem; abuse is.
How exactly are you winning at life??
If your boss knows about your occasional problem.......you might not start loosing..... Stay off Facebook to keep ur job
回11L：
你是如何准确地赢得美好生活？？？
如果你的老板知道你偶尔的那些问题（偶尔吸两口）。。。。你也可能是不被理解而失去工作。。。远离FACEBOOK。。。好好做你的工作
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Cytosol  
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Originally Posted by peanutz  引用13L：
How do you know that young people i.e. <18 years old who smoke weed in "moderation" are fine? And what is moderation, anyway?
I don't have any facts that can really prove this. I recall reading that somewhere around 80% of young kids have smoked marijuana by the time they hit high school, and a significant portion of them smoke in moderation. Most kids make it out of highschool and move on to college without problems. EVERYONE smokes weed in college. Most people can keep it within reason.
Moderation is keeping it within reason. There obviously aren't any guidelines set for moderation like there is with alcohol, but it's common sense (to me anyway) when it's starting to become a problem. If smoking weed gets in the way of doing productive things in my life that I otherwise wouldn't have a problem achieving, then it's no longer within reason. If kids smoke weed with friends on a Friday night and get their studies done over the weekend, it's not a problem. If they make the decision to get high while studying for a test, it's a problem.
I haven't seen any significant findings that indicate weed has a direct negative impact on the brain. Smoking weed -> Lower IQ doesn't equal Smoking weed -> Kills brain cells.
回13L：
我没有任何事实真的能去证明这一点！我想起在哪儿曾经看过，80%的年轻小孩子们在上高中的时候会去吸食大麻，还有他们中间很大一部分都会去适量吸食！大多数的孩子从高中升上大学都是没有问题的！在大学里每个人都会去吸食大麻！大多数的人都能保持理智！
保持适度是理智的。显然，针对吸食大麻而没有任何需要适度的指南，就如同酒精一样，但是无论如何，对我而言，它正变成一个麻烦，这是一个常识。假设吸食大麻阻碍了我们生活生产力，另一方面，这使得我的麻烦不能被解决，于是，这将不再是理智的合理的！如果孩子们在周五的晚上吸食大麻，然后在整个周末都用来学习，这也不算是个问题！如果他们下决心为了取得一个好成绩而去努力准备考试的话，那（吸食大麻）就是一件麻烦事了！
我还没有看到过任何有意义的关于大麻对人体大脑有负面作用的的调查结果。吸食大麻→低智商不等于吸食大麻→杀死脑细胞
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Originally Posted by Cytosol  
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Smoking weed makes you lazy. There is no question about that. Kids who smoke weed will on average be lazier and have less motivation than others. This means that they will be less inclined to study or to go to school, which could make them underachievers.
吸食大麻会让你变得很懒。这毫无疑问。小孩子如果吸食大麻的话，那他们会比同龄人更懒更加没有动力！这也就意味着他们可能不大愿意去学习或者上学，这可能让他们变成差等生！我打赌你去看看关于未成年人饮酒或者过度沉迷电子游戏的研究，你会看到相同的结果！
回11L：

看看菲尔普斯：吸食大麻将会使你变懒或者变得全无斗志哦。。。好的
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Originally Posted by iownyou  引用14L
How exactly are you winning at life??
If your boss knows about your occasional problem.......you might not start loosing..... Stay off Facebook to keep ur job
Winning at life means that I am in a good position. Good job, a house, got some money, got a good girl, all those things that one might measure to equal a good quality of life. Don't take it too literally.
My boss knows about my occasional 'problem' because we occasionally toke up together.
What does facebook have to do with anything?
回14L：
做生活的赢家意味着我有一个很好的立场！好工作、房子、赚钱，再有个好菇凉。这些可能都是衡量一个人良好生活品质条件！别太随便了。。。
我的老板知道我偶尔的“问题”。因为我们经常一起吸一口。。。
这和FACEBOOK有什么关系吗？
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Cannabis still has too many benefits to be outweighed by cons. Good luck government. Legalize or miss out on tax dollars.
大麻仍是有太多的优点，并且超过缺点！祝你好运政府！把（大麻）合法化，否则你就要错过税金哦！
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I don't think it will be legalized any time soon. The latest bill they passed increased the penalties for marijuana related offences. I guess since our crime rate is so low, someone's gotta fill those prisons!
我不认为它将很快合法化.他们通过了最新的议案来增加了对大麻相关罪行的处罚。我猜既然我们的犯罪率很低，那么就要有人去填充那些监狱！
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Well that explains why that stoner kid finished high school in grade 15 (no OAC).
很好！这很好的解释了为什么那些（看起来像是吸了毒的）孩子读到15年纪才高中毕业！（没有大学预科）

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话题：Young cannabis smokers run risk of lower IQ
                吸食大麻会损害年轻人的智商
Young people who smoke cannabis run the risk of a significant and irreversible reduction in their IQ, research suggests.
研究表明：年轻人吸食大麻会将永久性损害智商
full article here:
原文链接
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19372456 （来自BBC的新闻）
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原文大意：
据英国《每日电讯报》8月27日报道，英国伦敦大学国王学院和美国杜克大学的科学家研究发现，那些青少年时期经常吸食大麻的人智商（IQ）会永久性降低，晚年也更有可能出现注意力以及记忆力问题。
科学家对新西兰达尼丁市（Dunedin）1972年和1973年出生的1000人进行跟踪研究，分别调查了他们在18岁、21岁、32岁以及38岁时的大麻使用情况，并在对比了他们13岁和38岁时的智商数据。
研究显示，青少年时期即开始持续使用大麻的人中，38岁时的IQ值比13岁时低8点。所谓的持续使用是指在至少3年的时间里每周至少吸食大麻4次。
科学家称，青少年大麻使用者的IQ下降最为明显。IQ是是决定一个人能否上大学、能否找到好工作、会不会出现心脏病、老年痴呆症甚至早死的重要因素。
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Young cannabis smokers run risk of lower IQ
Young people who smoke cannabis run the risk of a significant and irreversible reduction in their IQ, research suggests.
full article here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19372456
ive always suspected that weed isnt as harmless as others suggest. the government is doing the right thing by keeping it illegal. the excuse that "its just a plant" doesnt fly; poison ivy is a plant too, but people dont seem too eager to smoke/eat it. of course studies pop up every few years that contradict each other, and the media always hypes things up. nonetheless, if you read the article you'll notice it's a fairly well conducted LONG term (25 year) study with a significant enough body of data (1000 people)
BBC的一篇文章指出年轻人长期吸食大麻会损害智商
我一直怀疑大麻是不是像别人建议的那样无害。政府通过做一些正确的事情来保持违法性！而借口就是“只是一个植物”所以它不能起到大作用。毒葛也是一种植物，但是人们看起来似乎并不是那么渴望去吸食/吃掉它！当然每隔几年，研究报告就会突然炸出来去互相反驳，同时媒体也总是在炒作！尽管如此，如果你阅读了这篇文章你就会留意到这是个不错的长期研究！她提供了足够的身体数据（1000人）
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Good thing I'm not young any more  
好事！不过我不再是年轻人了！
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Probably took the IQ test high anyways.
不管怎么样大概智商都测试的很高。。。
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  You could say the same thing about tv, or video games, or junk food, or porn. Lots of decisions change you irreversably... doesn't really mean that they should be illegal. And even if it should be illegal for "young people" it doesn't really follow that it should be illgal for everyone.
LZ：
你说同样地对于电视、视频游戏、或者垃圾食品或者色情产品而言。很多决定都不可逆转的改变了你。。。（这不不意味着）这些就应该都是违法的！还有，尽管这对于“年轻人”而言是违法的，但这不意味着对每个人都是！
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fakishan  
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OP just proved even none smokers have low IQs.
观察员只是证明了就算是不吸食的也会低智商。
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Teh_Canadian  
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You should look into cannabis use and abuse. Surprisingly it isn't as bad as you most likely think it to be, and most studies aren't done to provide unbiased information. If you're truly interested just PM or reply and I'll supply you with some great studies / links. Also if you haven't seen it already, watch The Union (its on Netflix!).
回LZ：
你应该去看看大麻的滥用。令人震惊的是，他并不像你想象中的那么糟糕，同时大多数的研究并不能提供公正的信息。如果你感兴趣的话，那就点我或者回复我，我会给你提供一些伟大的研究/链接。另外，如果你从未见过的话，看看美国就知道了（视频在Netflix上可以找到）
PS：Netflix全球十大视频网站中唯一收费站点
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aTriangle  
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The study suggests that persistent cannabis use while the user's brain is still developing runs the risk of decreased IQ in adulthood. In other, less scientific words, if CHILDREN ABUSE marijuana for a VERY LONG TIME, it will be bad for them. The same is true for many things. If children abuse KFC for a very long time, it will be bad for them.
这项研究表明，在成年期持久的吸食大麻的时候，大麻使用者的大脑一直处于运行会有智商减少的风险！另外，少有科学发言说明，如果孩子们在很长一段时间内滥用大麻的话，这对他们将是糟糕的。这同样也适用于很多事情！如果孩子们在肯德基（用餐）自虐的时间越长，
这对他们也是糟糕的！
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iownyou  
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Not this again....
别再说这个了
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mysticalinfluence  
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Isn't this obvious anyone that puts that poison into their body cannot be that bright of course they have lower IQ's.
很明显，这不是在针对所有人！当然，自己给自己的身体喂食毒药这是不明智！这些人的智商确实低！  
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Two wrongs doesn't equal a right. Its all in moderation.
两个错误不等于正确！凡事得适度！
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Cytosol  
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They studied 1,000 young users and found that people who used cannabis had lower IQ's. However, that doesn't mean the same thing as cannabis having some impact on the development of the brain or damaging it in some way. The article seems to suggest that conclusion, but I expect that's more a result of sensationalism rather than fact.
Smoking weed makes you lazy. There is no question about that. Kids who smoke weed will on average be lazier and have less motivation than others. This means that they will be less inclined to study or to go to school, which could make them underachievers. I bet you would see the same findings studying underage drinkers and kids that play videogames excessively.
Young people who smoke weed in moderation are fine. Young kids who abuse weed (again, like alcohol or videogames) will likely end up with problems. I got 'hooked' on weed at a young age and it was a significant factor in doing poorly in highschool and dropping out of college. However, I got my problem under control and have continued to smoke it occasionally throughout my 20's and now into my 30's. I've got a good job, make good money and am winning at life. Weed isn't the problem; abuse is.
他们研究了1000个年轻（吸食大麻）的用户，并且发现这些吸食大麻的智商都很低！然而，这同样也不意味着大麻会对大脑就有某些损害性的影响了！文章看起来是支持哪个结论，但是我认为这就是哗众取宠而非事实。
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吸食大麻会让你变得很懒。这毫无疑问。小孩子如果吸食大麻的话，那他们会比同龄人更懒更加没有动力！这也就意味着他们可能不大愿意去学习或者上学，这可能让他们变成差等生！我打赌你去看看关于未成年人饮酒或者过度沉迷电子游戏的研究，你会看到相同的结果！
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年轻人如果适量吸食的话那就很好！而小孩子如果过量吸食这些大麻的话（再说一次，同理就像酒精、电子游戏）将可能会导致一些问题了！我曾经在年前的时候染上“毒瘾”，那时候我在高中成绩不好，并且因为（成绩不好）而导致大学辍学的时候，而这（“毒瘾”）对我而言是有重大意义的！可是，在我20岁到现在30岁的时间里，我会把我的问题控制住，并且我一直是持续而又偶尔的抽烟！我现在已经有啦一份好工作，赚了不少钱并且享受着生活！大麻不是问题，滥用才是！
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peanutz  
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Originally Posted by Cytosol  引用11L：
Young people who smoke weed in moderation are fine. Young kids who abuse weed (again, like alcohol or videogames) will likely end up with problems. I got 'hooked' on weed at a young age and it was a significant factor in doing poorly in highschool and dropping out of college.
How do you know that young people i.e. <18 years old who smoke weed in "moderation" are fine? And what is moderation, anyway?
回11L：
你如何认为未成年人（小于18岁）适量吸食大麻是不错的？还有，不管怎样，什么才是“适度”呢？
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iownyou  
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Originally Posted by Cytosol 引用11L：
They studied 1,000 young users and found that people who used cannabis had lower IQ's. However, that doesn't mean the same thing as cannabis having some impact on the development of the brain or damaging it in some way. The article seems to suggest that conclusion, but I expect that's more a result of sensationalism rather than fact.
Smoking weed makes you lazy. There is no question about that. Kids who smoke weed will on average be lazier and have less motivation than others. This means that they will be less inclined to study or to go to school, which could make them underachievers. I bet you would see the same findings studying underage drinkers and kids that play videogames excessively.
Young people who smoke weed in moderation are fine. Young kids who abuse weed (again, like alcohol or videogames) will likely end up with problems. I got 'hooked' on weed at a young age and it was a significant factor in doing poorly in highschool and dropping out of college. However, I got my problem under control and have continued to smoke it occasionally throughout my 20's and now into my 30's. I've got a good job, make good money and am winning at life. Weed isn't the problem; abuse is.
How exactly are you winning at life??
If your boss knows about your occasional problem.......you might not start loosing..... Stay off Facebook to keep ur job
回11L：
你是如何准确地赢得美好生活？？？
如果你的老板知道你偶尔的那些问题（偶尔吸两口）。。。。你也可能是不被理解而失去工作。。。远离FACEBOOK。。。好好做你的工作
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Cytosol  
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Originally Posted by peanutz  引用13L：
How do you know that young people i.e. <18 years old who smoke weed in "moderation" are fine? And what is moderation, anyway?
I don't have any facts that can really prove this. I recall reading that somewhere around 80% of young kids have smoked marijuana by the time they hit high school, and a significant portion of them smoke in moderation. Most kids make it out of highschool and move on to college without problems. EVERYONE smokes weed in college. Most people can keep it within reason.
Moderation is keeping it within reason. There obviously aren't any guidelines set for moderation like there is with alcohol, but it's common sense (to me anyway) when it's starting to become a problem. If smoking weed gets in the way of doing productive things in my life that I otherwise wouldn't have a problem achieving, then it's no longer within reason. If kids smoke weed with friends on a Friday night and get their studies done over the weekend, it's not a problem. If they make the decision to get high while studying for a test, it's a problem.
I haven't seen any significant findings that indicate weed has a direct negative impact on the brain. Smoking weed -> Lower IQ doesn't equal Smoking weed -> Kills brain cells.
回13L：
我没有任何事实真的能去证明这一点！我想起在哪儿曾经看过，80%的年轻小孩子们在上高中的时候会去吸食大麻，还有他们中间很大一部分都会去适量吸食！大多数的孩子从高中升上大学都是没有问题的！在大学里每个人都会去吸食大麻！大多数的人都能保持理智！
保持适度是理智的。显然，针对吸食大麻而没有任何需要适度的指南，就如同酒精一样，但是无论如何，对我而言，它正变成一个麻烦，这是一个常识。假设吸食大麻阻碍了我们生活生产力，另一方面，这使得我的麻烦不能被解决，于是，这将不再是理智的合理的！如果孩子们在周五的晚上吸食大麻，然后在整个周末都用来学习，这也不算是个问题！如果他们下决心为了取得一个好成绩而去努力准备考试的话，那（吸食大麻）就是一件麻烦事了！
我还没有看到过任何有意义的关于大麻对人体大脑有负面作用的的调查结果。吸食大麻→低智商不等于吸食大麻→杀死脑细胞
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DJ_Peanuts22  
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Originally Posted by Cytosol  
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Smoking weed makes you lazy. There is no question about that. Kids who smoke weed will on average be lazier and have less motivation than others. This means that they will be less inclined to study or to go to school, which could make them underachievers.
吸食大麻会让你变得很懒。这毫无疑问。小孩子如果吸食大麻的话，那他们会比同龄人更懒更加没有动力！这也就意味着他们可能不大愿意去学习或者上学，这可能让他们变成差等生！我打赌你去看看关于未成年人饮酒或者过度沉迷电子游戏的研究，你会看到相同的结果！
回11L：

看看菲尔普斯：吸食大麻将会使你变懒或者变得全无斗志哦。。。好的
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Cytosol  
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Originally Posted by iownyou  引用14L
How exactly are you winning at life??
If your boss knows about your occasional problem.......you might not start loosing..... Stay off Facebook to keep ur job
Winning at life means that I am in a good position. Good job, a house, got some money, got a good girl, all those things that one might measure to equal a good quality of life. Don't take it too literally.
My boss knows about my occasional 'problem' because we occasionally toke up together.
What does facebook have to do with anything?
回14L：
做生活的赢家意味着我有一个很好的立场！好工作、房子、赚钱，再有个好菇凉。这些可能都是衡量一个人良好生活品质条件！别太随便了。。。
我的老板知道我偶尔的“问题”。因为我们经常一起吸一口。。。
这和FACEBOOK有什么关系吗？
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wilsonlam97  
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Cannabis still has too many benefits to be outweighed by cons. Good luck government. Legalize or miss out on tax dollars.
大麻仍是有太多的优点，并且超过缺点！祝你好运政府！把（大麻）合法化，否则你就要错过税金哦！
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Cytosol  
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I don't think it will be legalized any time soon. The latest bill they passed increased the penalties for marijuana related offences. I guess since our crime rate is so low, someone's gotta fill those prisons!
我不认为它将很快合法化.他们通过了最新的议案来增加了对大麻相关罪行的处罚。我猜既然我们的犯罪率很低，那么就要有人去填充那些监狱！
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ovechkin1  
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Well that explains why that stoner kid finished high school in grade 15 (no OAC).
很好！这很好的解释了为什么那些（看起来像是吸了毒的）孩子读到15年纪才高中毕业！（没有大学预科）

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