国产的9500在哪儿呢?9300的RD-93MA将装备小龙

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RD-33: output on the rise
According to UEC General Designer Alexander Ivakh speaking at the Engines 2012 salon in April, about 70 engines of the RD-33 family were made in Russia last year. Their production is run now by the Chernyshev Mashine-Building Enterprise in Moscow. Previously, the RD-33 Series 2 had been in production with the Baranov OMO  enterprise in Omsk (at present, an affiliate of the Salut Gas Turbine Research and Production Centre), but the fact that customers order now RD-33 Series 3 and RD-33MK engines only has left Omsk-based plant with repairing and overhauling Baranov-made engines, while the production of new engines has moved to Moscow.

Chernyshev’s near-term production programme is determined by its current orderbook for the second batch of 29 MiG-29K/KUB carrierborne fighters to India (the first batch of 16 aircraft powered by Chernyshev-built RD-33MKs was delivered during 2009–2011) and the recent Russian Defence Ministry order for 24 fighters of the type. In addition, the plant supplied RD-33MK turbofans to fit the first two MiG-29M/M2 fighter prototypes.

The first MiG-29K/KUB jets are due to the Russian Navy’s air arm as soon as 2013, but the RD-33MK first has to pass its official bench tests for compliance with peculiar requirements of the Russian Armed Forces. Klimov JSC kicked off the tests on 28 January 2012.

An important position in Chernyshev’s production plans is also occupied by the deliveries of RD-33 Series 3 knockdown kits to India under the January 2007 contract on licence production of 120 engines of the type there. The programme is about half-complete.

Finally, the RD-93, a RD-33 derivative with the low-mounted accessory gearbox, is exported to China to fit FC-1 (JF-17) light single-engine fighters. The deal for 100 RD-93s with an option for 400 more was clinched in April 2005. The first 15 engines were assembled by Klimov, and Chernyshev has handled the rest of the deliveries since 2006. The contract is half-complete, and the deliveries shall resume as soon as the customer submits its request.

At the same time with the full-rate production in Moscow, Klimov JSC in St. Petersburg continues to refine the RD-33MK and RD-93. According to Klimov, the company’s jet engine priorities are the development of the modified RD-93MA with the thrust enhanced to 9,300 kgf for a foreign customer and the development of the upgraded RD-33MKM with a thrust of 9,500 kgf for the MiG corporation.http://en.take-off.ru/news/107-june2012/729-rd33outputontherise

RD-33: output on the rise
According to UEC General Designer Alexander Ivakh speaking at the Engines 2012 salon in April, about 70 engines of the RD-33 family were made in Russia last year. Their production is run now by the Chernyshev Mashine-Building Enterprise in Moscow. Previously, the RD-33 Series 2 had been in production with the Baranov OMO  enterprise in Omsk (at present, an affiliate of the Salut Gas Turbine Research and Production Centre), but the fact that customers order now RD-33 Series 3 and RD-33MK engines only has left Omsk-based plant with repairing and overhauling Baranov-made engines, while the production of new engines has moved to Moscow.

Chernyshev’s near-term production programme is determined by its current orderbook for the second batch of 29 MiG-29K/KUB carrierborne fighters to India (the first batch of 16 aircraft powered by Chernyshev-built RD-33MKs was delivered during 2009–2011) and the recent Russian Defence Ministry order for 24 fighters of the type. In addition, the plant supplied RD-33MK turbofans to fit the first two MiG-29M/M2 fighter prototypes.

The first MiG-29K/KUB jets are due to the Russian Navy’s air arm as soon as 2013, but the RD-33MK first has to pass its official bench tests for compliance with peculiar requirements of the Russian Armed Forces. Klimov JSC kicked off the tests on 28 January 2012.

An important position in Chernyshev’s production plans is also occupied by the deliveries of RD-33 Series 3 knockdown kits to India under the January 2007 contract on licence production of 120 engines of the type there. The programme is about half-complete.

Finally, the RD-93, a RD-33 derivative with the low-mounted accessory gearbox, is exported to China to fit FC-1 (JF-17) light single-engine fighters. The deal for 100 RD-93s with an option for 400 more was clinched in April 2005. The first 15 engines were assembled by Klimov, and Chernyshev has handled the rest of the deliveries since 2006. The contract is half-complete, and the deliveries shall resume as soon as the customer submits its request.

At the same time with the full-rate production in Moscow, Klimov JSC in St. Petersburg continues to refine the RD-33MK and RD-93. According to Klimov, the company’s jet engine priorities are the development of the modified RD-93MA with the thrust enhanced to 9,300 kgf for a foreign customer and the development of the upgraded RD-33MKM with a thrust of 9,500 kgf for the MiG corporation.


三哥:俺采购美蒂F414

毛妹:哥你不要俺了,俺卖身给华仔
         9300公斤级RD33改型哦

三哥:俺采购美蒂F414

毛妹:哥你不要俺了,俺卖身给华仔
         9300公斤级RD33改型哦
怀疑这个也有可能装备道F60上
正好说明TG的中推有进展,否则按照毛子的习惯,要是TG没有,才不会卖改进型的
至于国产什么9500,估计正在研制实验阶段,不可能用于枭龙,现在


ws13改9500本来就不是给枭龙用的,小巴两年前就准备建rd33的大修线了,人家早就准备毛发了,ws13的纯山寨版本来就是一个备份。但是也早在枭龙原型机上试飞了,现在可能给粽子初始试飞阶段用,最终用ws13改9500做发动机。

ws13改9500本来就不是给枭龙用的,小巴两年前就准备建rd33的大修线了,人家早就准备毛发了,ws13的纯山寨版本来就是一个备份。但是也早在枭龙原型机上试飞了,现在可能给粽子初始试飞阶段用,最终用ws13改9500做发动机。
FC1如果装备这款发动机 加上最近的机翼结构增强 那么载弹量增加到5吨以上应该没啥问题。

不知道对WS13的前景有啥影响
俄罗斯有钱以后,想买他的先进东西更费时了


看中航李培的采访,枭龙上增推版的毛发,提升载荷能力,早在计划之中,没什么大惊小怪的。让外国客户用ws13得靠忽悠。

看中航李培的采访,枭龙上增推版的毛发,提升载荷能力,早在计划之中,没什么大惊小怪的。让外国客户用ws13得靠忽悠。
悲观地等待RD93MA的寿命数据
注意一点,9300KG的也在开发中,不是现有产品。
。。。。节操掉光了的汉斯美眉曾表示9500中推就是RD93MA,反正我是信了{:wugu:}
毛子的新闻,靠谱么
RD-333现在如何?
ggzhu 发表于 2012-7-25 09:47
注意一点,9300KG的也在开发中,不是现有产品。

起码比9500靠谱得多。
9t推力级的RD33MK已经量产,RD93增推应该没啥大的技术障碍
起码比9500靠谱得多。
9t推力级的RD33MK已经量产,RD93增推应该没啥大的技术障碍
93和33的关系似乎就是31FN和31F的关系,机匣位置不同而已。
我们自己加快点进度
按照合同上说的 RD-93还将提供给小巴
但是用来外卖的脚要换WS13了
我们自己的中推呢?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shankeyamin 发表于 2012-7-25 09:37
俄罗斯有钱以后,想买他的先进东西更费时了
现在,中国也没买毛子什么武器
cqx7711cqx7711 发表于 2012-7-25 09:44
悲观地等待RD93MA的寿命数据
9500的国产中推的寿命肯定比9300的RD93MA长很多,其余的性能,不一定好多少,都是一个核心机的衍生品,不过,期待11吨级的先进中推,血统纯正的国产货
vce 发表于 2012-7-25 09:59
起码比9500靠谱得多。
9t推力级的RD33MK已经量产,RD93增推应该没啥大的技术障碍
RD-93MA在特殊状态下,推力达到9300,一般情况,8吨多
心脏病一定要根治呀,这东西致命呀
中方正在与供应商开展合作,目标是将发动机推力提升到91.1千牛。此外,中方还计划为增推后的发动机加装矢量喷管,以改善飞机的机动性。 “枭龙”目前采用的是“新飞机+成熟发动机”的组合,有利于缩短飞机研制周期;未来“枭龙”发展成熟后,如果有了合适的国产发动机,也可选择安装,到时“成熟飞机+新发动机”的组合也更容易让客户接受。
    提升飞机的载荷能力。目前“枭龙”的外挂能力是3.6吨,下一步计划提升到5—6吨,从而使其作战能力大为提升。具体手段除了发动机增推外,还包括机翼结构和起落架的加强,以及其他一系列的改进。
    据李培介绍,在以上3个主要改进内容之外,根据客户的需求,“枭龙”增加空中加油能力和发展双座型的改进改型工作也已经列入了计划。针对双座型的发展原因,李培解释说,除了培训飞行员外,随着“枭龙”未来实现载荷能力的提升,可以承担更多的对地攻击任务,尤其是在夜间对地面目标实施精确打击,一个飞行员的精力是不够的,需要增加专门的武器操作员。
从最近的消息来看 李培部长的讲话正在逐步证实。
只能说按照成飞的规划按部就班的推进中~ 国产发动机还只是个备份啊~
什么9300,什么9500,什么泰山,什么RD33改,全一头雾水。。。公说公有理婆说婆有理,不猜,坐等。。本人KC偏红,会有好的那天。。。
bizhu886 发表于 2012-7-25 10:51
RD-93MA在特殊状态下,推力达到9300,一般情况,8吨多
“特殊状态下”才能达到啊?那看来没多少参考价值
RD33MK的单发版
LantianYY 发表于 2012-7-25 12:32
“特殊状态下”才能达到啊?那看来没多少参考价值

甭听那厮胡诌,RD93MA的详细参数根本没公开呢。参考RD33MK的官方数据,9t推力是正常的状态,可以推测93也应该类似。如果是特殊状态,应该会注明,比如117S,AL-31FM2等。
http://www.avia500.ru/ru/produce/motor/rd-33mk/
小将无敌 发表于 2012-7-25 12:12
什么9300,什么9500,什么泰山,什么RD33改,全一头雾水。。。公说公有理婆说婆有理,不猜,坐等。。本人KC ...
一起等吧~航展上的9500全矢量太行~期待啊
o(╯□╰)o 发表于 2012-7-25 09:42
看中航李培的采访,枭龙上增推版的毛发,提升载荷能力,早在计划之中,没什么大惊小怪的。让外国客户用ws13 ...
还不一定忽悠得了,自己都不用,以为别人傻啊
vce 发表于 2012-7-25 12:45
甭听那厮胡诌,RD93MA的详细参数根本没公开呢。参考RD33MK的官方数据,9t推力是正常的状态,可以推测93 ...
那样还行,8吨多的正常推力比WS-13基本版也好不到哪儿去。枭龙要实现将来5~6吨的挂载能力就指着9500kgf和以上推力的发动机了,希望能像鹰狮NG换装F414后那样性能飞跃
ws13改9500本来就不是给枭龙用的,小巴两年前就准备建rd33的大修线了,人家早就准备毛发了,ws13的纯山寨版 ...
大修线是在准备,不过不在小巴,而是在国内。
bizhu886 发表于 2012-7-25 10:41
9500的国产中推的寿命肯定比9300的RD93MA长很多,其余的性能,不一定好多少,都是一个核心机的衍生品,不 ...
猴年马月的事了,粽子等得了吗
又是一个悲剧的消息啊。。。不知道用兔子发动机的消息还需要等几年?
骐骥 发表于 2012-7-25 09:48
毛子的新闻,靠谱么
必须得靠谱啊,毕竟还要依赖着AL31呢


TG的9500(9800),寿命提高有限,但可以上小龙。先进中推11-12t有,但是进度不好说。上头也没说海飞丝必须要超巡只是说可以有。

TG的9500(9800),寿命提高有限,但可以上小龙。先进中推11-12t有,但是进度不好说。上头也没说海飞丝必须要超巡只是说可以有。
www2009 发表于 2012-7-25 12:53
还不一定忽悠得了,自己都不用,以为别人傻啊
这玩意不好说,兔子忽悠能力不是盖得,k8不就忽悠了好几个国家用国发了,小巴属于兔子难伺候的客户,人家毕竟有三哥万国牌战机部队威胁,。
fighter16 发表于 2012-7-25 12:55
大修线是在准备,不过不在小巴,而是在国内。
原来在国内,我记得10年珠海航展,小巴空军司令采访,说要建rd33的大修线的。
shinobiyan 发表于 2012-7-25 13:56
TG的9500(9800),寿命提高有限,但可以上小龙。先进中推11-12t有,但是进度不好说。上头也没说海飞丝必须 ...
超巡的保持时间决定了舰载飞机不可能有