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 A New Chinese Fighter!? Sigh, No

  中國的新戰鬥機!?唉,不是

  原文地址:http://defensetech.org/2012/06/22/a-new-chinese-fighter-sigh-no/

  翻譯:南田翡翠

  正文翻譯



  Is that another UFO being trucked cross country or China’s newest stealth fighter? Nope, it’s just a lengthened version of a Hongdu L-15 jet trainer — which is said to be developed with assistance from from the Russian Yak-130 team — stopping for a Big Gulp at a rest stop on the highway from Beijing to Shenyang, China.

  這是又一個卡車裝運的UFO,還是中國最新的隱形戰鬥機?都不是,這只是一架加長版的洪都L-15教練機——據說,L-15是在俄羅斯雅克-130開發組的協助下研發的——停在北京至瀋陽高速公路的一個休息站以補充燃料而已。

  Teh Internets have been abuzz this morning with rumors that this is China’s newest fighter. Nope.

  Nice Audi.

  今天早上,網絡紛紛傳言這是中國最新的戰鬥機。不是的。

  漂亮的奧迪。(譯者:指圖中的那輛奧迪)

  Ps. Some are suggesting that this is really is Shenyang’s F-60 stealth fighter design. While there are similarities, I’m not convinced. The aircraft size, cockpit, leading-edge extensions and wing designs resemble an L-15 too strongly for me to say this an new jet.

  Ps:有人說這真的和瀋陽F-60隱形戰機設計相同。儘管兩者有相似之處,但我還是不相信。對於我來說,這架戰機無論是大小、駕駛倉、進氣道折線,還是機翼設計都太像L-15了,所以,我不能說這是一架新戰鬥機。

  評論翻譯

  Mastro  20 hours ago -2(-2是評分)

  I hear Audis are real popular in China ever since some "prince" ran over someone in his BMW and did the "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM ?" bit.

  2 replies  active 19 hours ago

  我聽說自從某些“王子”(譯者注:外國沒有X二代一說麼……)用寶馬軋死人,然後說“你知道我是誰嗎?”之後,奧迪就在中國十分流行了。


  cs4  19 hours ago+4

  Have you heard about US commerce secretary's involvement in a car crash?

  你聽說過美國的商務部長牽扯進交通事故中嗎?

  aerodog79  19 hours ago -1

  Gee, was he driving an Audi, too? Sounds like bad Ju-Ju.

  他是不是也開奧迪?聽起來像壞 Ju-Ju(譯者:求高人翻譯)

  Mark Pyruz  20 hours ago -2

  Why "poo poo" a new variant? Too lazy to engage in the speculation?

  為什麼雙“拉”出一個變種機?懶得去推測。

  Juuso  19 hours ago 0

  That plane has a "stinger" between engines, L-15 does not have such thing. Also, plane is wider than L-15.

  這架飛機在雙發尾部中間有一個“尾椎”,L-15上是沒這個的。而且,這架飛機比L-15更寬。

  Rohan  16 hours ago 0

  I am sure this is something mischivi about Chinese.....are they again making toys!!!

  我確信這是中國人的惡作劇……他們是不是又在造玩具!!!

  cozine  16 hours ago 0

  L-15 has a large LEX which hides the inlet below. It is hard to see from this angle but looks to me like a caret inlet. Also looks like a single-seater to me.

  

  2 replies  active 15 hours ago

  L-15在進氣口處下方隱藏著一個巨大的機翼前緣延伸板。從這個角度很難看到,但是我看這架飛機好像是caret進氣道。而且,我看這是單座機。

  


  19E10 69p  16 hours ago 0

  Cozine, While it doesn't appear to be a tandem configuration, perhaps it's a side by side. The front part of the jet appears to be almost as wide as the back (Su Flanker Platypus ...).

  樓主,儘管這架飛機不像串座型,但它可能是並座型。前後幾乎一樣寬(蘇-海側衛、鴨嘴獸……)

  Ben  15 hours ago 0

  Agreed. Also, the nose of the aircraft in the link doesn't taper down nearly as much as the standard L-15.

  I'm starting to think this is something new. Nothing to really worry about, but something new nonetheless.

  同意。而且,這架飛機的機鼻的斜度和標準的L-15也不太像。

  我開始覺得這是新戰機了。沒什麼真正可擔心的,但不管怎麼說,這確實是某種新戰機。

  Tribulationtime  15 hours ago -4

  Looks like L-15. I agree what seems be a single-seater, but i think this plane is disable by accident, shuch a bird crash so thats, broken canopy, explains the background house in the middle. No make sense, if she can fly; dismount the vertical plane and do not with the wings. I think so.

  1 reply  active 15 hours ago

  看起來像L-15。我同意它似乎是單座的,但是我認為這架飛機是因事故而報廢,比如說被鳥撞破了機艙著蓋,這解釋了背後那房子中間位置為什麼會成那樣。如果她能飛,這就沒意義了;她可以把機翼收起來。我是這樣認為的。


  Juuso  15 hours ago +1

  There is few reasons why it can't be L-15.

  - It has a "stinger" (probably electronics) between engines.

  - Engines are too far apart for it to be L-15.

  - Fuselage is too wide.

  - Radome is not round. (third pic)

  為什麼這不可能是L-15?有以下幾條原因。

  -它在雙發尾部中間有一個“尾椎”(可能是電子設備)。

  -發動機和L-15相差太大了。

  -機身太寬。

  -雷達罩不是圓的。(第三張圖)

  Lance  15 hours ago 0

  Forget the plane, I like the cool tarp over the plane.

  2 replies  active 8 hours ago

  忘了這飛機,我喜歡它上面cool的油布。

  Zip  8 hours ago +1

  Have you ever kissed a girl, Lance?

  樓主,你親過女孩嗎?

  Zip  8 hours ago +1

  Or do you not shoot straight?

  或者說你是射不直嗎?

  Ben  14 hours ago +1

  Could it be the Shenyang F-60? It matches the mockup shown here:

  http://koreansentry.19.forumer.c ... aec0a549f5890ae87f8

  1 reply  active 13 hours ago

  這會是沈飛的F-60嗎?它和航展上的模型很像:http://koreansentry.19.forumer.c ... aec0a549f5890ae87f8


  Michael  13 hours ago -2

  I hope it is.

  我希望它是F-60.

  19E10 69p  13 hours ago 0

  Ben, Very good possibility. The wings are of a similar shape and the apparent width of the front could be caused by the way the netting transits from the intake to the nose. The "Norinco Raptor" !

  1 reply  active 13 hours ago

  樓上上,很可能是。機翼形狀相似,從機頭的進氣道到機鼻的寬度都很像。這是“北方工業集團的猛禽”!


  Ben  13 hours ago 0

  Exactly what I was thinking. Not only are the design's eerily similar but the timing of this airframe's appearance coincides with when you might see a full-scale prototype (the mockup of the F-60 was revealed back in September).

  和我想的完全一樣。不僅設計很像,而且其機身現身的時機也符合一個原型機出現所需的時間(F-60的模型是去年9月份公佈的)

  譯者:很多名詞不熟悉,看來得補補戰鬥機知識了。



http://big5.cctv.com/gate/big5/bbs.cntv.cn/thread-16735680-1-1.html A New Chinese Fighter!? Sigh, No

  中國的新戰鬥機!?唉,不是

  原文地址:http://defensetech.org/2012/06/22/a-new-chinese-fighter-sigh-no/

  翻譯:南田翡翠

  正文翻譯



  Is that another UFO being trucked cross country or China’s newest stealth fighter? Nope, it’s just a lengthened version of a Hongdu L-15 jet trainer — which is said to be developed with assistance from from the Russian Yak-130 team — stopping for a Big Gulp at a rest stop on the highway from Beijing to Shenyang, China.

  這是又一個卡車裝運的UFO,還是中國最新的隱形戰鬥機?都不是,這只是一架加長版的洪都L-15教練機——據說,L-15是在俄羅斯雅克-130開發組的協助下研發的——停在北京至瀋陽高速公路的一個休息站以補充燃料而已。

  Teh Internets have been abuzz this morning with rumors that this is China’s newest fighter. Nope.

  Nice Audi.

  今天早上,網絡紛紛傳言這是中國最新的戰鬥機。不是的。

  漂亮的奧迪。(譯者:指圖中的那輛奧迪)

  Ps. Some are suggesting that this is really is Shenyang’s F-60 stealth fighter design. While there are similarities, I’m not convinced. The aircraft size, cockpit, leading-edge extensions and wing designs resemble an L-15 too strongly for me to say this an new jet.

  Ps:有人說這真的和瀋陽F-60隱形戰機設計相同。儘管兩者有相似之處,但我還是不相信。對於我來說,這架戰機無論是大小、駕駛倉、進氣道折線,還是機翼設計都太像L-15了,所以,我不能說這是一架新戰鬥機。

  評論翻譯

  Mastro  20 hours ago -2(-2是評分)

  I hear Audis are real popular in China ever since some "prince" ran over someone in his BMW and did the "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM ?" bit.

  2 replies  active 19 hours ago

  我聽說自從某些“王子”(譯者注:外國沒有X二代一說麼……)用寶馬軋死人,然後說“你知道我是誰嗎?”之後,奧迪就在中國十分流行了。


  cs4  19 hours ago+4

  Have you heard about US commerce secretary's involvement in a car crash?

  你聽說過美國的商務部長牽扯進交通事故中嗎?

  aerodog79  19 hours ago -1

  Gee, was he driving an Audi, too? Sounds like bad Ju-Ju.

  他是不是也開奧迪?聽起來像壞 Ju-Ju(譯者:求高人翻譯)

  Mark Pyruz  20 hours ago -2

  Why "poo poo" a new variant? Too lazy to engage in the speculation?

  為什麼雙“拉”出一個變種機?懶得去推測。

  Juuso  19 hours ago 0

  That plane has a "stinger" between engines, L-15 does not have such thing. Also, plane is wider than L-15.

  這架飛機在雙發尾部中間有一個“尾椎”,L-15上是沒這個的。而且,這架飛機比L-15更寬。

  Rohan  16 hours ago 0

  I am sure this is something mischivi about Chinese.....are they again making toys!!!

  我確信這是中國人的惡作劇……他們是不是又在造玩具!!!

  cozine  16 hours ago 0

  L-15 has a large LEX which hides the inlet below. It is hard to see from this angle but looks to me like a caret inlet. Also looks like a single-seater to me.

  

  2 replies  active 15 hours ago

  L-15在進氣口處下方隱藏著一個巨大的機翼前緣延伸板。從這個角度很難看到,但是我看這架飛機好像是caret進氣道。而且,我看這是單座機。

  


  19E10 69p  16 hours ago 0

  Cozine, While it doesn't appear to be a tandem configuration, perhaps it's a side by side. The front part of the jet appears to be almost as wide as the back (Su Flanker Platypus ...).

  樓主,儘管這架飛機不像串座型,但它可能是並座型。前後幾乎一樣寬(蘇-海側衛、鴨嘴獸……)

  Ben  15 hours ago 0

  Agreed. Also, the nose of the aircraft in the link doesn't taper down nearly as much as the standard L-15.

  I'm starting to think this is something new. Nothing to really worry about, but something new nonetheless.

  同意。而且,這架飛機的機鼻的斜度和標準的L-15也不太像。

  我開始覺得這是新戰機了。沒什麼真正可擔心的,但不管怎麼說,這確實是某種新戰機。

  Tribulationtime  15 hours ago -4

  Looks like L-15. I agree what seems be a single-seater, but i think this plane is disable by accident, shuch a bird crash so thats, broken canopy, explains the background house in the middle. No make sense, if she can fly; dismount the vertical plane and do not with the wings. I think so.

  1 reply  active 15 hours ago

  看起來像L-15。我同意它似乎是單座的,但是我認為這架飛機是因事故而報廢,比如說被鳥撞破了機艙著蓋,這解釋了背後那房子中間位置為什麼會成那樣。如果她能飛,這就沒意義了;她可以把機翼收起來。我是這樣認為的。


  Juuso  15 hours ago +1

  There is few reasons why it can't be L-15.

  - It has a "stinger" (probably electronics) between engines.

  - Engines are too far apart for it to be L-15.

  - Fuselage is too wide.

  - Radome is not round. (third pic)

  為什麼這不可能是L-15?有以下幾條原因。

  -它在雙發尾部中間有一個“尾椎”(可能是電子設備)。

  -發動機和L-15相差太大了。

  -機身太寬。

  -雷達罩不是圓的。(第三張圖)

  Lance  15 hours ago 0

  Forget the plane, I like the cool tarp over the plane.

  2 replies  active 8 hours ago

  忘了這飛機,我喜歡它上面cool的油布。

  Zip  8 hours ago +1

  Have you ever kissed a girl, Lance?

  樓主,你親過女孩嗎?

  Zip  8 hours ago +1

  Or do you not shoot straight?

  或者說你是射不直嗎?

  Ben  14 hours ago +1

  Could it be the Shenyang F-60? It matches the mockup shown here:

  http://koreansentry.19.forumer.c ... aec0a549f5890ae87f8

  1 reply  active 13 hours ago

  這會是沈飛的F-60嗎?它和航展上的模型很像:http://koreansentry.19.forumer.c ... aec0a549f5890ae87f8


  Michael  13 hours ago -2

  I hope it is.

  我希望它是F-60.

  19E10 69p  13 hours ago 0

  Ben, Very good possibility. The wings are of a similar shape and the apparent width of the front could be caused by the way the netting transits from the intake to the nose. The "Norinco Raptor" !

  1 reply  active 13 hours ago

  樓上上,很可能是。機翼形狀相似,從機頭的進氣道到機鼻的寬度都很像。這是“北方工業集團的猛禽”!


  Ben  13 hours ago 0

  Exactly what I was thinking. Not only are the design's eerily similar but the timing of this airframe's appearance coincides with when you might see a full-scale prototype (the mockup of the F-60 was revealed back in September).

  和我想的完全一樣。不僅設計很像,而且其機身現身的時機也符合一個原型機出現所需的時間(F-60的模型是去年9月份公佈的)

  譯者:很多名詞不熟悉,看來得補補戰鬥機知識了。



http://big5.cctv.com/gate/big5/bbs.cntv.cn/thread-16735680-1-1.html
敢不敢使用简体字。  这繁体字着实很多看不懂。
不够多啊,不够解馋1
还是那句话,真要等到咱军车拖这玩意,俺才信。。。要不还真的没准。。。但愿是新4吧!
這是又一個卡車裝運的UFO,還是中國最新的隱形戰鬥機?都不是,這只是一架加長版的洪都L-15教練機——據說,L-15是在俄羅斯雅克-130開發組的協助下研發的——停在北京至瀋陽高速公路的一個休息站以補充燃料而已。
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飞机也加93#?
美国网友中肯些,日韩的恐怕就酸了
外国人看到F60的图片后,也认为不是L15,而是一款新式飞机.
美国网友很关注啊
里面有多少国人在留言?
L15是南方洪都厂的,怎么会出现在北京到沈阳的路上?
楼主的 飞船太慢,火星在刮沙尘暴吧
mxzfqq 发表于 2012-6-24 23:01
敢不敢使用简体字。  这繁体字着实很多看不懂。
我还以为中国人都看得懂繁体字= =
czoczoczo 发表于 2012-6-24 23:30
我还以为中国人都看得懂繁体字= =
能看懂,就是累点
繁体字的的话 不会写正常!  但是看的话 好像真没什么压力呀!  我也从来没学过繁体字!
fanderfei 发表于 2012-6-24 23:33
能看懂,就是累点
其实我一直很奇怪为什么自然就会看得懂,而且不费力~
factrl 发表于 2012-6-24 23:08
美国网友中肯些,日韩的恐怕就酸了
自信呗。。
很有意思的是,这种帖子也从来都有MD人民对于他们政府的神吐槽,无论何种形式何种内容何种态度的帖子,必然会牵扯到各种躺枪官员和白宫政府,上到中东战争下到门口花圃被邻居家狗拉了泡屎。。。
人类果然共通啊
以后世界上就是五种五代机了,老美当然关注,慢慢All of the world 都会很关注的
传说中的王二小 发表于 2012-6-24 23:05
這是又一個卡車裝運的UFO,還是中國最新的隱形戰鬥機?都不是,這只是一架加長版的洪都L-15教練機——據說, ...
他是说卡车补充燃料。。。。
有时候被别人议论也是一种幸福
这个兔子搞大发了!
mxzfqq 发表于 2012-6-24 23:01
敢不敢使用简体字。  这繁体字着实很多看不懂。
看不懂的上下文一联系就很简单了
czoczoczo 发表于 2012-6-24 23:30
我还以为中国人都看得懂繁体字= =
繁简体中国字都是中国字,中国人都看得懂中国字,你听过到港澳台升学的学生因不懂繁体字而退学的学生吗?
英俊小二 发表于 2012-6-25 00:10
繁简体中国字都是中国字,中国人都看得懂中国字,你听过到港澳台升学的学生因不懂繁体字而退学的学生吗?
不要死扣字眼~意思明白就行
xjb2004 发表于 2012-6-24 23:13
L15是南方洪都厂的,怎么会出现在北京到沈阳的路上?
我路过洪都的时候问了,他们说不关他们的事
传说中的王二小 发表于 2012-6-24 23:05
這是又一個卡車裝運的UFO,還是中國最新的隱形戰鬥機?都不是,這只是一架加長版的洪都L-15教練機——據說, ...
想起郭德纲西征记那个相声了,不过这飞机应该不是小油箱

czoczoczo 发表于 2012-6-24 23:30
我还以为中国人都看得懂繁体字= =


还是应该推广简体字的!中国古代各种字体都应该保留下来,用作考古研究或练练书法艺术,平日里正常使用还是统一使用目前国家正式通行的简体字比较好,省时省力方便!
czoczoczo 发表于 2012-6-24 23:30
我还以为中国人都看得懂繁体字= =


还是应该推广简体字的!中国古代各种字体都应该保留下来,用作考古研究或练练书法艺术,平日里正常使用还是统一使用目前国家正式通行的简体字比较好,省时省力方便!
czoczoczo 发表于 2012-6-24 23:30
我还以为中国人都看得懂繁体字= =
还是应该推广简体字的!中国古代各种字体都应该保留下来,用作考古研究,平日里正常使用还是统一使用目前国家正式通行的简体字比较好,省时省力方便!
我不知道这怎么“并座”还不挤死飞行员啊!
这楼歪的也太快了吧!繁体字都不会看或者看起来直叫累的这能说你们的文化修养也太拙了,我这个接受社会主义教育在红旗下长大的看繁体毫无压力,只是叫我写就相当有难度了
为什么是繁体字?????
怎么就歪了,繁体字会看也会写的飘过,真写起来也不难,都是那几个偏旁!还是讨论粽子吧!
美国网友中肯些,日韩的恐怕就酸了
主子和奴才怎么会一样,一般主子在外面说话是比较中肯,哪像奴才,狗仗人势
我还以为中国人都看得懂繁体字= =
可能他是外国朋友


好像看到了我的发言,呵呵!

DT 那编辑一定懂中文,因为时常在第一时间转报国内军网的消息,CDFY HSH DS 的都有,连水印都不改就盗图。各大军网应该联名问之讨版税。

好像看到了我的发言,呵呵!

DT 那编辑一定懂中文,因为时常在第一时间转报国内军网的消息,CDFY HSH DS 的都有,连水印都不改就盗图。各大军网应该联名问之讨版税。
胡说八道,顺丰就是这个包装。他们本土用联邦快递,是蓝包装。

ebay就有,洛马旗舰店。卖家付邮
xjb2004 发表于 2012-6-24 23:13
L15是南方洪都厂的,怎么会出现在北京到沈阳的路上?
没错,国内外说是L15的,都是打翻了醋坛子的。
传说中的王二小 发表于 2012-6-24 23:05
這是又一個卡車裝運的UFO,還是中國最新的隱形戰鬥機?都不是,這只是一架加長版的洪都L-15教練機——據說, ...
好点的飞机都加97#,娇贵的狠!!
以前开过加0号柴油的,据说那飞机用的是天顶星技术,油耗低,动力足,开个空调拉一车猪都跑的动,那飞机,杠杠的!
czoczoczo 发表于 2012-6-24 23:37
其实我一直很奇怪为什么自然就会看得懂,而且不费力~
好多英国年轻人都不知道牛奶是牛的奶,鸡蛋不是鸡的蛋.用中文就不会出现这种情况.这就是中文的强大之处.
xjb2004 发表于 2012-6-24 23:13
L15是南方洪都厂的,怎么会出现在北京到沈阳的路上?
懂得这一点的人早就被五角大楼请去了。
老美还是有识货的