(转载)日民众对华好感度创新低,亚洲人民有话要说:韩 ...

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龙腾网官方微博:评论: 此文主题是中日越来越互不待见,评论开始是中日对掐,巴印围观顺便助阵,后来一韩国网友出现。立马被中日巴印网友轮暴。这是怎样一种存在感啊~!!??韩国果然是中日友好的桥梁啊~~
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原帖中的链接:http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/188875-japanese-impression-china-hits-new-record-low-84-japanese-dislike-c.html
原文翻译:
Tokyo, June 20 (CNA) The Japanese public's impression of China has worsened over the last year, according to the results of a joint China-Japan survey released Wednesday.
东京,6月20日,根据星期3刚放出的中日民众调查,今年日本民众对华好感度比去年更低。
Up to 84 percent of Japanese people surveyed said they had a bad impression of Chinese people, a 6 percent increase compared to a year earlier, showed the survey, which was conducted by Genron, a Japanese nonprofit organization, and the Chinese newspaper China Daily to see how each side views the other.
日本一个叫Genron的非盈利组织和中国的CHINA DAILY报纸发布的调查中,参与调查的日本人中,超过84%的人对华印象较差,只有6%的人对华好感度超越去年。
On the other hand, 64.5 percent of Chinese responded they had a bad impression of Japan, which was a 5.4 percent decline compared to last year's figure.
另一方面,有64.5%的中国人对日本印象较差,比去年上升了5.4%。
A total of 54.4 percent of Japanese pollees said China's selfish attitude toward obtaining energy and resources was the main reason they had an unfavorable opinion of China, while 44 percent cited the Diaoyutai Islands sovereignty issue.
在接受调查的日本人中,总共有54.4%的人把坏印象的理由归咎于中国日趋对能源的自私获取,其中44%的人提及了钓鱼岛问题。
Moreover, 34.8 percent of Japanese cited China's nontransparent military expansion as the main cause for their bad impression, compared to last year's 23.9 percent.
此外,有34.8%的日本调查者认为中国军事透明度太低,而去年持这个观点的人只有23.9%。
China's public on the other hand cited different interpretations of history as the major cause, with 78.6 percent noting past wars were the main cause for their negative impression, while 39.8 percent said Japanese government's strong stance in dealing with the Diaoyutai Islands sovereignty issue was the main cause.
而中国民众把主要原因归咎于历史问题,其中78.6%人提及了侵华战争造成了民众对日本的消极态度,而有39.8%人认为日本政府对钓鱼岛问题过于强硬。
When asked what was the main obstacle between the two countries developing closer ties, 69.5 percent of Japanese said it was the Diaoyutai Islands issue, with 51 percent of Chinese agreeing this was the main issue.
当被问及中日关系发展的主要障碍时,69.5%日本民众认为是钓鱼岛问题,而51%的中国民众也是这样认为。

Taiwan, China, and Japan all claim sovereignty over the Diaoyutai Islands in East China Sea.
(中国)台湾,中国大陆,和日本都声称对钓鱼拥有主权。

This year, the survey also introduced a question asking whether respondents expected conflicts to break out between the two countries over the East China Sea issue. A total of 38 percent of Japanese expected no conflicts, but 36.9 percent of Chinese thought future conflicts could occur.
今年,被调查着也被问及中日钓鱼岛问题会不会引发战争。38%的日本认为不会,而36.9%认为在未来会出现。

The survey in Japan was conducted between April 26-May 14 among men and women above the age of 18. Genron retrieved 1,000 valid responses.
日本的调查是在4.26-5.14进行的,参与者为1000个年龄在18岁以上的男女。

The Chinese survey retrieved a total of 1,627 valid responses from Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu, Shenyang and Xian.
中国调查一共有1627个来自北京,上海,成都,沈阳和西安的市民组成。


China being disliked everywhere as usual, except for Pakistan.
发帖者(韩国人)表示:中国人通常在任何地方不受人待见,除了巴基斯坦。         




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ashokdeiva(印度)  

Japan and CHINA has a long standing mistrust, we can not play politics based on this mistrust and say that CHINA is disliked by every one.
May be they are disliked by some, but its a matter of personal idea based on what one hears and understands from the media in their home country
中日长期互不信任,我们肆意利用这种不信任,就说中国被全世界人不待见。
也许他们(中国人)只是被一部分人不喜欢,但是有一个问题,很多人的想法都被国家的媒体影响。
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skyknight(中国)
That's a good news to me.
Your enemies' resentment and frustration mean that you are doing the right thing.
对我来说,这是个好消息。
你的敌人目前表现出来的不满和挫败感表明,我们现在做的事很正确。

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PakShah(巴基斯坦)
China and Japan are enemies. China and Japan have territorial disputes.
Japan committed many crimes against the Chinese people during World War 2.
Besides Japan is part of the Japanese-Indian-America axis.
Lastly, Japan is a westernized country.
中日是敌人。中日之间有领土纷争。
日本在二战期间对中国犯下了许多罪行。
此外,日本是日-印-美轴心国之一。
而且,日本是一个被西化的国家。
         
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Beast(中国)
Japan hate China becos we overtake them as the number one economy powerhouse in Asia...
日本讨厌中国是因为我们追上了他们,并成为亚洲第一经济体。

      
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anon45(美国)
Nah, they dislike China because it throws its weight around. The Scarborough Shoal dispute and near Chinese incursions probably didn't help matters between public to public.
不,他们不喜欢中国,是因为他到处传播他的影响力。斯卡伯勒浅滩(黄岩岛)争端,中国人的入侵很可能影响国民间的问题。
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Erdogan(土耳其)

Japan is an American occupied country. Frankly, I don't see that much of a difference between Japan and Saudi Arabia.
日本被美国人占据着,坦率的讲,我看不见日本和沙特之间有什么区别。
         
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ChinaToday(中国)  
yeah right as though we really care what they think of us ,stupid thread started by a chinese obsessed fool
是啊,搞得好像我们真的很在乎他们对我们的看法一样,一个对中国不解的2B发的一个2B帖子。
         
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PakShah(巴基斯坦)  
LOL! Look who's talking!
Turkey is as westernized as Japan. Its Turkey that is an American occupied country. LOL
Saudi Arabia is actually ditching USA in the very near future.
Did you know the Saudis are very angry about being blamed about 9/11 and being shown in bad light in the international media for more than 10 years?
Even Prince Nayef of the Saudi royal family said basically do you think 20 youths did 9/11?
笑,看,谁在回复!
土耳其和日本一样西化,土耳其也是一个美国占据的国家。笑
沙特不久将脱离美国。
你知道么沙特因为9.11被指责而大为光火,因此也被国际媒体负面报道10年之久。
你真以为9.11是仅仅是20个青年干的么?      
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nick_indian(印度)
Wow , compared to East and South-East Asian countries I would say Indian public opinion polls show a relatively better opinion of China in India.
WOW,对比东亚和东南亚国家,印度民众对华印象肯定要好.
         
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Erdogan (土耳其)
True, Turkey is the same. Did you think I was going to become angry or something? lol
是啊,土耳其和日本一样,你觉得我会对此生气或者别的么?笑
         
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Oldman1(美国)

We didn't occupied Saudi Arabia we were invited. Big difference. And there are no American bases since Gulf War 2.
我们没有占据沙特,我们是邀请他们同盟,这个区别很大。在第二次海湾战争中,我们可没在那里有基地。         
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kalu_miah(孟加拉国)  
I don't think India wants to be part of this axis, they already applied for SCO membership. SCO is anti-NATO.   
我不认为印度想成轴心国(日-印-美轴心),他们已经申请成为上合的会员国,上合是反北约组织。
      
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Korean(韩国)  
That's because Indians don't know China too well, and Pakistanis are in the complete dark about China.
You can't possibly like China once you get to know China better.
那是印度对中国了解的太少,巴基斯坦对中国完全无知。
当你完全了解中国的时候,你就不可能喜欢中国。

   
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kalu_miah(孟加拉国)
Does not matter if China is good or bad, both India and Pakistan need China and Russia and they will go with SCO. Japan, Korea and ASEAN will be stuck with USA.
和中国好坏无关,印度和巴基斯坦都需要中国和俄罗斯,而且他们的都会加入上合。日本、韩国和东盟被美国卡着脖子。
         
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shuttler(中国)
japanese are notorious everywhere in the neighbourhood. they have perennial territorial disputes with all its neighbours, Russia, RoK+DPRK, China. People who know the real face of the japanese despise these bunch of unrepenting imperialists. Last month the UN rejected outright the dirty tricks of the japanese trying to claim a coral reef as an island thereby trying to broaden crazily its EEZ. which will be, if successfully claimed, 1000+ times more than the table sized piece of coral rock! shameful!
日本在周围邻居面前一直臭名昭著。他们和中、俄、朝、韩都有领取纠纷。真正了解日本的人都鄙视日本这一连串的帝国主义行为。上个月联合国否决了日本企图将一个珊瑚礁变成一个小岛的述求,他们已经连续诉求过3次以此来扩大他们的经济专属区。
如果成功他们将得到比珊瑚礁本身大1000倍以上的领海。可耻!      
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Green Bullet(巴基斯坦)  

Korean I spent 5 months in China, and I met a number of Pakistani's who were on a tourist visit or studying in China, itself. What makes you the expert of China?
韩国人,我花了5个月时间在中国,我遇见了很多在中国旅游或者学习的巴基斯坦人。请问你是怎么成为中国专家的?
      
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ChinaToday(中国)  

he is just trolling just ignor that china obssessed retard mate     
兄弟,他对中国一无所知,他是为了喷而喷。
   
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kalu_miah(孟加拉国)  
I know one Korean who is fanatically anti-China. Always checks products to make sure that it is not made in China, anywhere else but China. According to prevailing Korean urban legend, Chinese people are "damaging to the world" no matter what they do. It is kind of irrational, and it is hard to convince this person that Chinese are like any other human beings, and that there is good and bad among all people.    我了解韩国人为什么如此疯狂的抵制中国。总是检查商品确保不是中国造,只要不是中国造都可以。根据韩国市民盛行的的说法,不管中国人做什么都是都对世界有破坏性。这是荒谬的,很难说服这些韩国人相信中国人和其他人是一样的,他们(中国人)也有好坏之分。
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PakShah(巴基斯坦)
Don't worry, even Japan's time is up too.
Do you know much of their population is very old now lol.
They also arn't having a lot of kids.
The future of the world now belongs to the developing world.
Japan isn't a world power, not even a regional power. They are just rich, that's all.
lol, Japan will never get in the UNSC. UNSC isn't going to get reformed anytime soon.
India will never get accepted into SCO, because they are the enemies of Pakistan and China.
India has territorial disputes with Pakistan and China.
What makes you China will let India into SCO or the UNSC?
不必担心,日本时日不久了。
你知道么他们的人口老龄化日趋严重。
他们的孩童太少了。
未来世界属于发展中国家。
日本不是世界强国,甚至不是一个地区强国,他们是富裕,仅仅是富裕。
日本人也绝对进不了安理会常任理事会,常任理事会永远不会变。
印度也永远进步了上合,因为他们是中巴的敌人。
印度和中巴都有领土纷争。
是什么让你绝对印度能进上合和常任理事会。

  
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Green Bullet(巴基斯坦)  
Japanese people can dislike China, but they should be cautious because if China decides to stop importing from Japan, then its economy will go down the drain. Japanese people should be ashamed of themselves because of what there forefathers did in Nanking, and how they elected these scumbags into power, and there familes.
日本人可以不喜欢中国,但他们要小心点了,如果中国不从日本那里进口,那么他们的经济将慢慢枯萎。日本人应该羞耻于他们的祖先在南京犯下的罪行,他们怎么可以选择这些人渣作为领导,作为自己的家庭成员。
        
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sweetgrape(中国)
Everywhere? no matter, mouth is on your face, say what you want to say!!
But, better than you, in your history, most of time, you are the slave of other country, and be fucked by other country, Chinese like to call you family slave of three countries!! you can't fu!k others, but be fu!cked by other, Do you addict to be fu!ked?
(针对韩国楼主),所有的地方(的人都不喜欢中国),没关系,嘴长在你脸上,随便你怎么说了。
At that age, incursion was nothing, it is jungle rule, but the question is that Japanese do animal behavior, the kill more than million innocent unarmed normal people, and now they still want to deny it, don't apologise for it, let alone sincerely like German! it is hard for chinese to find the reason to forgive Japan, Just like me, I want a war with Japan to finish the hatred!!
That's because Indians don't know China too well, and Pakistanis are in the complete dark about China.
在那个时代,侵略都无关紧要,那时是丛林法则,但问题在于日本的行为和禽兽没有区别,他们杀了超过百万无辜的没有武装的平民百姓,到现在他们还在否认,不愿道歉,和德国人截然相反!我们中国人没有理由原谅日本人,就像我一样,希望有一场战争来结束这些仇恨。
Of course, as you SK logic, it is hard to like china, You dislike china, Japan, NK, you like USA most, which is your incumbent "father", or the one use you, enjoy your night, don't scream too loud, we are not too far, China and Japan know what you are doing!
(继续回LZ)当然,按照你那种韩国逻辑,你很难喜欢中国,你不喜欢中国、朝鲜、日本,你最喜欢美国啦,那是你爸爸啦,你的美国爸爸利用你,(和谐),不要叫的那么欢,我们离你不远,中日都知道你在干嘛!
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Rusty (巴基斯坦)

You were "invited" by a puppet government which you prop up.Seems legit
回复Oldman1,对,你们邀请一个你们资助的傀儡政府是合法的。
        
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Yang Xi Gu)中国)
Chinese love Japan. Japanese hate China. Who cares? China big country. Japan small country. Japan is welcome to join China anytime.
中国爱日本,日本狠中国,谁关心这些?中国是大国,日本是小国,中国随时欢迎日本加盟中国。
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kriish(印度)  

keep dreaming about India this way dude that's the only thing you can do because China n Chinese are smart its just politics they will always think about their strategic advantage untill few years back America was ur best buddies say for about 3 decades n to save ur country they even threatened India with nuke war in 71 now the equation has changed America is our friend all of this changed very fast so does China if there is a stragic need where China should form a Alliance with India she will .........
the point is what India learnt from Pak no matter how close allies you are have ur own strategic advantage and b self reliant and now about SOC & UNSC its just a mater of time . think about it India in SOC means more money and strategic edge influence in IOR many more but specially no USA in IOR n many more
继续把印度幻想成这样,那是你唯一能做的事,因为中国人很聪敏,他们只是按照战略利益,几年前美国是你们的最好的朋友,甚至在71年使用核武器威胁我们,而现在美国是我们的朋友,这一切变化的太快,中国也是这样,如果中国的战略利益转向印度,中国可能会和印度成为联盟。
关键是印度从巴基斯坦哪里学到了,不管你和你的盟友多近乎,你的战略利益才是第一位,印度进上合和安理会只是时间问题,想想吧,印度进入上合会增加该组织的战略影响。

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龙腾网官方微博:评论: 此文主题是中日越来越互不待见,评论开始是中日对掐,巴印围观顺便助阵,后来一韩国网友出现。立马被中日巴印网友轮暴。这是怎样一种存在感啊~!!??韩国果然是中日友好的桥梁啊~~
转载自龙腾网:链接:http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=66971&fromuid=668

原帖中的链接:http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/188875-japanese-impression-china-hits-new-record-low-84-japanese-dislike-c.html
原文翻译:
Tokyo, June 20 (CNA) The Japanese public's impression of China has worsened over the last year, according to the results of a joint China-Japan survey released Wednesday.
东京,6月20日,根据星期3刚放出的中日民众调查,今年日本民众对华好感度比去年更低。
Up to 84 percent of Japanese people surveyed said they had a bad impression of Chinese people, a 6 percent increase compared to a year earlier, showed the survey, which was conducted by Genron, a Japanese nonprofit organization, and the Chinese newspaper China Daily to see how each side views the other.
日本一个叫Genron的非盈利组织和中国的CHINA DAILY报纸发布的调查中,参与调查的日本人中,超过84%的人对华印象较差,只有6%的人对华好感度超越去年。
On the other hand, 64.5 percent of Chinese responded they had a bad impression of Japan, which was a 5.4 percent decline compared to last year's figure.
另一方面,有64.5%的中国人对日本印象较差,比去年上升了5.4%。
A total of 54.4 percent of Japanese pollees said China's selfish attitude toward obtaining energy and resources was the main reason they had an unfavorable opinion of China, while 44 percent cited the Diaoyutai Islands sovereignty issue.
在接受调查的日本人中,总共有54.4%的人把坏印象的理由归咎于中国日趋对能源的自私获取,其中44%的人提及了钓鱼岛问题。
Moreover, 34.8 percent of Japanese cited China's nontransparent military expansion as the main cause for their bad impression, compared to last year's 23.9 percent.
此外,有34.8%的日本调查者认为中国军事透明度太低,而去年持这个观点的人只有23.9%。
China's public on the other hand cited different interpretations of history as the major cause, with 78.6 percent noting past wars were the main cause for their negative impression, while 39.8 percent said Japanese government's strong stance in dealing with the Diaoyutai Islands sovereignty issue was the main cause.
而中国民众把主要原因归咎于历史问题,其中78.6%人提及了侵华战争造成了民众对日本的消极态度,而有39.8%人认为日本政府对钓鱼岛问题过于强硬。
When asked what was the main obstacle between the two countries developing closer ties, 69.5 percent of Japanese said it was the Diaoyutai Islands issue, with 51 percent of Chinese agreeing this was the main issue.
当被问及中日关系发展的主要障碍时,69.5%日本民众认为是钓鱼岛问题,而51%的中国民众也是这样认为。

Taiwan, China, and Japan all claim sovereignty over the Diaoyutai Islands in East China Sea.
(中国)台湾,中国大陆,和日本都声称对钓鱼拥有主权。

This year, the survey also introduced a question asking whether respondents expected conflicts to break out between the two countries over the East China Sea issue. A total of 38 percent of Japanese expected no conflicts, but 36.9 percent of Chinese thought future conflicts could occur.
今年,被调查着也被问及中日钓鱼岛问题会不会引发战争。38%的日本认为不会,而36.9%认为在未来会出现。

The survey in Japan was conducted between April 26-May 14 among men and women above the age of 18. Genron retrieved 1,000 valid responses.
日本的调查是在4.26-5.14进行的,参与者为1000个年龄在18岁以上的男女。

The Chinese survey retrieved a total of 1,627 valid responses from Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu, Shenyang and Xian.
中国调查一共有1627个来自北京,上海,成都,沈阳和西安的市民组成。


China being disliked everywhere as usual, except for Pakistan.
发帖者(韩国人)表示:中国人通常在任何地方不受人待见,除了巴基斯坦。         




评论:全部


ashokdeiva(印度)  

Japan and CHINA has a long standing mistrust, we can not play politics based on this mistrust and say that CHINA is disliked by every one.
May be they are disliked by some, but its a matter of personal idea based on what one hears and understands from the media in their home country
中日长期互不信任,我们肆意利用这种不信任,就说中国被全世界人不待见。
也许他们(中国人)只是被一部分人不喜欢,但是有一个问题,很多人的想法都被国家的媒体影响。
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skyknight(中国)
That's a good news to me.
Your enemies' resentment and frustration mean that you are doing the right thing.
对我来说,这是个好消息。
你的敌人目前表现出来的不满和挫败感表明,我们现在做的事很正确。

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PakShah(巴基斯坦)
China and Japan are enemies. China and Japan have territorial disputes.
Japan committed many crimes against the Chinese people during World War 2.
Besides Japan is part of the Japanese-Indian-America axis.
Lastly, Japan is a westernized country.
中日是敌人。中日之间有领土纷争。
日本在二战期间对中国犯下了许多罪行。
此外,日本是日-印-美轴心国之一。
而且,日本是一个被西化的国家。
         
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Beast(中国)
Japan hate China becos we overtake them as the number one economy powerhouse in Asia...
日本讨厌中国是因为我们追上了他们,并成为亚洲第一经济体。

      
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anon45(美国)
Nah, they dislike China because it throws its weight around. The Scarborough Shoal dispute and near Chinese incursions probably didn't help matters between public to public.
不,他们不喜欢中国,是因为他到处传播他的影响力。斯卡伯勒浅滩(黄岩岛)争端,中国人的入侵很可能影响国民间的问题。
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Erdogan(土耳其)

Japan is an American occupied country. Frankly, I don't see that much of a difference between Japan and Saudi Arabia.
日本被美国人占据着,坦率的讲,我看不见日本和沙特之间有什么区别。
         
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ChinaToday(中国)  
yeah right as though we really care what they think of us ,stupid thread started by a chinese obsessed fool
是啊,搞得好像我们真的很在乎他们对我们的看法一样,一个对中国不解的2B发的一个2B帖子。
         
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PakShah(巴基斯坦)  
LOL! Look who's talking!
Turkey is as westernized as Japan. Its Turkey that is an American occupied country. LOL
Saudi Arabia is actually ditching USA in the very near future.
Did you know the Saudis are very angry about being blamed about 9/11 and being shown in bad light in the international media for more than 10 years?
Even Prince Nayef of the Saudi royal family said basically do you think 20 youths did 9/11?
笑,看,谁在回复!
土耳其和日本一样西化,土耳其也是一个美国占据的国家。笑
沙特不久将脱离美国。
你知道么沙特因为9.11被指责而大为光火,因此也被国际媒体负面报道10年之久。
你真以为9.11是仅仅是20个青年干的么?      
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nick_indian(印度)
Wow , compared to East and South-East Asian countries I would say Indian public opinion polls show a relatively better opinion of China in India.
WOW,对比东亚和东南亚国家,印度民众对华印象肯定要好.
         
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Erdogan (土耳其)
True, Turkey is the same. Did you think I was going to become angry or something? lol
是啊,土耳其和日本一样,你觉得我会对此生气或者别的么?笑
         
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Oldman1(美国)

We didn't occupied Saudi Arabia we were invited. Big difference. And there are no American bases since Gulf War 2.
我们没有占据沙特,我们是邀请他们同盟,这个区别很大。在第二次海湾战争中,我们可没在那里有基地。         
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kalu_miah(孟加拉国)  
I don't think India wants to be part of this axis, they already applied for SCO membership. SCO is anti-NATO.   
我不认为印度想成轴心国(日-印-美轴心),他们已经申请成为上合的会员国,上合是反北约组织。
      
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Korean(韩国)  
That's because Indians don't know China too well, and Pakistanis are in the complete dark about China.
You can't possibly like China once you get to know China better.
那是印度对中国了解的太少,巴基斯坦对中国完全无知。
当你完全了解中国的时候,你就不可能喜欢中国。

   
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kalu_miah(孟加拉国)
Does not matter if China is good or bad, both India and Pakistan need China and Russia and they will go with SCO. Japan, Korea and ASEAN will be stuck with USA.
和中国好坏无关,印度和巴基斯坦都需要中国和俄罗斯,而且他们的都会加入上合。日本、韩国和东盟被美国卡着脖子。
         
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shuttler(中国)
japanese are notorious everywhere in the neighbourhood. they have perennial territorial disputes with all its neighbours, Russia, RoK+DPRK, China. People who know the real face of the japanese despise these bunch of unrepenting imperialists. Last month the UN rejected outright the dirty tricks of the japanese trying to claim a coral reef as an island thereby trying to broaden crazily its EEZ. which will be, if successfully claimed, 1000+ times more than the table sized piece of coral rock! shameful!
日本在周围邻居面前一直臭名昭著。他们和中、俄、朝、韩都有领取纠纷。真正了解日本的人都鄙视日本这一连串的帝国主义行为。上个月联合国否决了日本企图将一个珊瑚礁变成一个小岛的述求,他们已经连续诉求过3次以此来扩大他们的经济专属区。
如果成功他们将得到比珊瑚礁本身大1000倍以上的领海。可耻!      
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Green Bullet(巴基斯坦)  

Korean I spent 5 months in China, and I met a number of Pakistani's who were on a tourist visit or studying in China, itself. What makes you the expert of China?
韩国人,我花了5个月时间在中国,我遇见了很多在中国旅游或者学习的巴基斯坦人。请问你是怎么成为中国专家的?
      
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ChinaToday(中国)  

he is just trolling just ignor that china obssessed retard mate     
兄弟,他对中国一无所知,他是为了喷而喷。
   
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kalu_miah(孟加拉国)  
I know one Korean who is fanatically anti-China. Always checks products to make sure that it is not made in China, anywhere else but China. According to prevailing Korean urban legend, Chinese people are "damaging to the world" no matter what they do. It is kind of irrational, and it is hard to convince this person that Chinese are like any other human beings, and that there is good and bad among all people.    我了解韩国人为什么如此疯狂的抵制中国。总是检查商品确保不是中国造,只要不是中国造都可以。根据韩国市民盛行的的说法,不管中国人做什么都是都对世界有破坏性。这是荒谬的,很难说服这些韩国人相信中国人和其他人是一样的,他们(中国人)也有好坏之分。
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PakShah(巴基斯坦)
Don't worry, even Japan's time is up too.
Do you know much of their population is very old now lol.
They also arn't having a lot of kids.
The future of the world now belongs to the developing world.
Japan isn't a world power, not even a regional power. They are just rich, that's all.
lol, Japan will never get in the UNSC. UNSC isn't going to get reformed anytime soon.
India will never get accepted into SCO, because they are the enemies of Pakistan and China.
India has territorial disputes with Pakistan and China.
What makes you China will let India into SCO or the UNSC?
不必担心,日本时日不久了。
你知道么他们的人口老龄化日趋严重。
他们的孩童太少了。
未来世界属于发展中国家。
日本不是世界强国,甚至不是一个地区强国,他们是富裕,仅仅是富裕。
日本人也绝对进不了安理会常任理事会,常任理事会永远不会变。
印度也永远进步了上合,因为他们是中巴的敌人。
印度和中巴都有领土纷争。
是什么让你绝对印度能进上合和常任理事会。

  
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Green Bullet(巴基斯坦)  
Japanese people can dislike China, but they should be cautious because if China decides to stop importing from Japan, then its economy will go down the drain. Japanese people should be ashamed of themselves because of what there forefathers did in Nanking, and how they elected these scumbags into power, and there familes.
日本人可以不喜欢中国,但他们要小心点了,如果中国不从日本那里进口,那么他们的经济将慢慢枯萎。日本人应该羞耻于他们的祖先在南京犯下的罪行,他们怎么可以选择这些人渣作为领导,作为自己的家庭成员。
        
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sweetgrape(中国)
Everywhere? no matter, mouth is on your face, say what you want to say!!
But, better than you, in your history, most of time, you are the slave of other country, and be fucked by other country, Chinese like to call you family slave of three countries!! you can't fu!k others, but be fu!cked by other, Do you addict to be fu!ked?
(针对韩国楼主),所有的地方(的人都不喜欢中国),没关系,嘴长在你脸上,随便你怎么说了。
At that age, incursion was nothing, it is jungle rule, but the question is that Japanese do animal behavior, the kill more than million innocent unarmed normal people, and now they still want to deny it, don't apologise for it, let alone sincerely like German! it is hard for chinese to find the reason to forgive Japan, Just like me, I want a war with Japan to finish the hatred!!
That's because Indians don't know China too well, and Pakistanis are in the complete dark about China.
在那个时代,侵略都无关紧要,那时是丛林法则,但问题在于日本的行为和禽兽没有区别,他们杀了超过百万无辜的没有武装的平民百姓,到现在他们还在否认,不愿道歉,和德国人截然相反!我们中国人没有理由原谅日本人,就像我一样,希望有一场战争来结束这些仇恨。
Of course, as you SK logic, it is hard to like china, You dislike china, Japan, NK, you like USA most, which is your incumbent "father", or the one use you, enjoy your night, don't scream too loud, we are not too far, China and Japan know what you are doing!
(继续回LZ)当然,按照你那种韩国逻辑,你很难喜欢中国,你不喜欢中国、朝鲜、日本,你最喜欢美国啦,那是你爸爸啦,你的美国爸爸利用你,(和谐),不要叫的那么欢,我们离你不远,中日都知道你在干嘛!
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Rusty (巴基斯坦)

You were "invited" by a puppet government which you prop up.Seems legit
回复Oldman1,对,你们邀请一个你们资助的傀儡政府是合法的。
        
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Yang Xi Gu)中国)
Chinese love Japan. Japanese hate China. Who cares? China big country. Japan small country. Japan is welcome to join China anytime.
中国爱日本,日本狠中国,谁关心这些?中国是大国,日本是小国,中国随时欢迎日本加盟中国。
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kriish(印度)  

keep dreaming about India this way dude that's the only thing you can do because China n Chinese are smart its just politics they will always think about their strategic advantage untill few years back America was ur best buddies say for about 3 decades n to save ur country they even threatened India with nuke war in 71 now the equation has changed America is our friend all of this changed very fast so does China if there is a stragic need where China should form a Alliance with India she will .........
the point is what India learnt from Pak no matter how close allies you are have ur own strategic advantage and b self reliant and now about SOC & UNSC its just a mater of time . think about it India in SOC means more money and strategic edge influence in IOR many more but specially no USA in IOR n many more
继续把印度幻想成这样,那是你唯一能做的事,因为中国人很聪敏,他们只是按照战略利益,几年前美国是你们的最好的朋友,甚至在71年使用核武器威胁我们,而现在美国是我们的朋友,这一切变化的太快,中国也是这样,如果中国的战略利益转向印度,中国可能会和印度成为联盟。
关键是印度从巴基斯坦哪里学到了,不管你和你的盟友多近乎,你的战略利益才是第一位,印度进上合和安理会只是时间问题,想想吧,印度进入上合会增加该组织的战略影响。

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Korean (韩国)
China and Japan, yes.
North Korea, no. Pity, yes. Hatred, no.
(不喜欢)中日,是的。朝鲜不是,我们可怜朝鲜但不仇恨他们。
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Sonyuke_Songpaisan(中国)  
Because China and Japan raped Korea in turn in history
因为中日在历史轮流强X过韩国。
        
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Korean(韩国)  
China did not.
中国没有。
The last time Han Chinese occupied a part of Korea(Pyongyang) was 300 AD, when Koreans overran Lelang and those Chinese colonists became Korean subjects. And that was that.
公元300,汉朝最后一次侵占朝鲜半岛是在PYONGYANG,当韩国然发展到LELANG的时候,那些中国移民变成了韩国人。 就是那样。         
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POST_HUMAN_WAR (巴基斯坦)
Better to be feared then to be loved.
被人畏惧要比被人喜爱好。
        
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Korean(韩国)  
"Being hated by others" mean China loses soft power that it craves so much and is investing billions a year to attain but is failing.
A well-liked and smooth-talking guy can convince others to their bidding, but a hated guy is universally ignored and others work against the hated guy.
“被人讨厌”意味着中国失去了软实力,那是他们渴望拥有而且每年投资数十亿来获得的,不过失败了。
一个受人喜爱和能言会道的人能说服别人接受自己的观点,但是一个受人讨厌的人会被别人无视。
      
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POST_HUMAN_WAR(巴基斯坦)  
Depands on hated by who Japan is puppet of the USA(no offence any japanese members) weather the japanese like China or hate it in the end they don't have any say in the matter only their masters do .
被美国的傀儡日本仇视(对日本网友没有冒犯),不管到最后日本人喜欢或仇视中国人,他们在这个调查中什么也没有说,只是那些政客么干的。
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kawaraj(日本)  
from this guy Korean's response, they feel so great being raped by Japan, what a despicable nation.
inferior really they are.
从这个韩国人的反映来看,被日本强X似乎感觉很好,多可悲的一个国家。他们确实很低等。
        
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Sonyuke_Songpaisan(中国)
Hehe, Korea was a vassal country of Ming, Qing Tang Song, every chinese dynasty was your master
呵呵,高丽在明、凊、唐、宋时代一直是中国的属国,每个中国朝代都是你们的宗主。
         
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Korean  
There is actually a great debate about what went wrong in the 19th century(Recall that Tokugawa Japan was weak enough to surrender to the US navy unconditionally in 1853, while Korea battled and repelled the US Marines invasion in 1871) in Korea, a self-reflection and learning from the past mistake in order not to repeat it.
Fast forward to 2012, Korea is the only country to have signed FTAs with both EU and the US. Why Korea did this, they did it in order not to repeat the mistakes of 19th century.(Be the first one to open up and become globalized). And Japanese industry executives are dismayed that there is no hope of an FTA with the US and EU for them due to agricultural politics. While Japanese industries are dying and are relocating overseas, Korean industries are booming. While Hyundai is expanding its full luxury lineup in the US, Honda just announced the discontinuation of Legend(Acura RL) and Inspire(Luxury-trim US Accord) and is pulling out of luxury car business to focus on low-cost cars. Japan's trade deficit is getting bigger, Korea's trade surplus is getting bigger.
This happened because Koreans remembered the past and vowed to not repeat, while Japan forgot what made them great and is withering.
(回日本人):在19世纪的朝鲜半岛,这(被日本殖民)确实一个很大的争辩。(回Tokugawa:1853日本军队太虚弱向美国海军无条件投降,而韩国人在对美国海军的入侵中击退了他们),从过去的错误中自我反省和学习使我们没有重蹈覆辙。
快速进入2012,韩国是唯一一个同时和欧盟以及美国签订自由贸易协议的国家。为什么韩国可以,那是因为他们不想重蹈19世纪的覆辙。(成为第一个打开门户变得全球化国家)。由于日本的农业政策,日本的工业部门长官非常沮丧,他们不能和欧盟以及美国签订自由贸易协定。目前的日本产业在枯萎和转移到国外,而韩国产业在急速发展。当现代的高级车款进入美国的时,本田宣告停止讴歌RL进入美国市场,并退出高级轿车市场,来关注低级别市场。日本的贸易赤字日渐增大,而韩国的贸易结余也日渐增大。

And there were no Chinese living in Korea.

Qing
Qing wasn't a Chinese dynasty. Likewise, no Manchus and certainly no Chinese in Korea during Qing era.

Tang
Tang wasn't a Chinese dynasty. Beside, Tang actually lost more territories after the series of war, as the Korean Kingdom of Balhae pushed its border to just north of Beijing.

Song
Song was an equal ally of Korea, where Song's diplomatic letters addressed Korean king as "fellow emperor". Not only that, Song and Koryo were separated by Khitans and later Jurchens. Song dynasty was the weakest of China's unified dynasties and were in no position to play imperialists.
(回楼上)没有中国人居住在那时的朝鲜半岛。  
清朝,不是一个中国朝代,同样的,没有满族或者汉族的人居住到朝鲜半岛。
唐朝,不是一个中国朝代,另外唐朝经过连续的战争失去很多领土,高丽将其国土一直推进到北进北部。
宋朝,和韩国是平等的同盟,宋朝的外交信上称高丽是“同等帝国”,不止这些,宋朝和高丽分别由后来的女真和契丹隔开。宋朝是中国最弱的统一国家,没有实力实行帝国主义。   
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kawaraj(日本)  

you really have a special view of point, can skip who's raper to Korea to a fairly high angle, I have to say.
tokugawa Japan was not weak actually if you compare business and tech environmental at large in that jidai, to those of rather primitive Korea and even China. So the surrender is a convenient in political arena ahead of Meiji.
I don't say there's any similarity of that scenario in today's FTA agreement.
我不得不说,你有一个奇特的视角,你能够无视那个强X犯并给韩国一个好的台阶。
在那个JIDAI(日语:时代)如果你比较商业和技术化境,德川日本没有那么弱。比原始的韩国甚至中国都要强大。因此投降是在明治维新之前的一个政治秀而已。
         
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Korean(韩国)
Maybe you didn't watch the NHK series Ryoma-Den, which does an excellent job describing Japan's panic in 1853. It was Japanese realization of their own weakness that triggered Japan to abandon the old ways and embrace the western civilization. Japan lost the battle, but won the war.
The Korean victories against the French and the US troops in 1863~1871 only led the Korean leaders to believe that the western power was of no threat to them and they needed not embrace it. Korea won the battle, but lost the war.
也许你没看过NHK的“龙马传”,它很好的描述了日本在1853的恐慌,那让日本了解自己的弱小,触发了日本放弃老路,拥抱西方文明。日本失去了战场,但是赢得了战争。
在1863到1871年间,高丽赢得了对法国美国军队的战争。这让高丽领导人认为西方大国对我们没什么威胁,我们没必要迎合西方。高丽赢得战场输掉了战争。
        
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skyknight(中国)  
Lol at the stupid "history" invented by Koreans.
(对韩国人)韩国人发明的2B“历史”。
      
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Korean(韩国)  
History invention is the specialty of Chinese, not Korean.
发明历史专长是中国人的,不是韩国人的。
        
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Sonyuke_Songpaisan(中国)  
How pity Korean is.
now matter how you try to decorate your history, in our eyes, you are slaves 4ever.
让人同情的韩国人。不管你如何粉饰你们的历史,你们在我们眼里永远是奴隶。        
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kawaraj(日本)  
sounds you know some Japanese history, but fact is no, you only see some surfice but not the nature of that time.
tokukawa Japan was an example of loose controlled nation, through whom the strength lies in warlords in locals, not the Edo government, and a surrender was a prefix of meiji revolution, a catalyst. warlords was indifferent of a win or loss, or even happy to see an openning to outworld, they know americans better than those in Edo.
it's silly to talk to me about Japanese history, If I am a college students, you could be only a pre-school kids.
I don't know about the war of 1967, Korean war against the US and French? but I'd rather believe it's a war between China and French US, etc in Korean peninsular, as at that time Korean this nation was still in China's hands, until 1890 Korea was handed to Japan by China.
看上去你知道一些日本历史,但是事实不是这样,你只看到了表面,没有看到真实情况。
德川日本一个失去控制的国家例子,国家力量被当地军阀所有,而不在江户ZF手里。 明治维新之前的投降,这是一个催化剂,军阀们对胜负漠不关心,甚至希望引入一个外部力量进入(韩国),他们知道美国比江户ZF好。
你很2B,和我谈论日本历史,如果我是个大学生,你就是个入学前的小鬼。
我不知道什么1967(可能是1867,他写错了)的队法、美战争?但是我相信有一场中国对法国、美国的战争。在1890之后中国把朝鲜半岛拱手让与日本前,半岛始终在中国人手里。      
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Sonyuke_Songpaisan (中国)
The Treaty of Shimonoseki states that China acknowledges Korea's independence. Before this treaty, korea was recognized as part of China and Korea has no diplomatic power. their diplomatic affair was handled by China. there were plenty of history documentation to support this. when french, american and german required trade with korea. korea king replied that this should be decided by china- father of korea
(回楼上日本人) “下关条约”中中国承认朝鲜半岛独立。 在这之前,朝鲜半岛一直是中国的一部分,而且没有任何外交权力。他们的外交权属于中国。 有大量的历史记录证明了: 当法国、美国和德国要求和高丽贸易的时候,高丽国王是这样答复的,“这需要高丽的宗主国,中国来决定。”   
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Pakistani Nationalist(巴基斯坦)  

My korean friend how about expellin american forces from our beautiful country? how can you live like tht.... how can you allow the american soldiers to commit crimes against ur own people? thts a shame.... i respect the koreans for developing their country though.

我的韩国朋友,解释下美国军队为何在你们美丽的国家?你是怎么活在那种情况下。。。你为何允许美国大兵对你们的人民犯下罪行?太可耻了。。。即使这样,我尊重韩国人对国家的建设。
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Korean(韩国)
Not some, but pretty well inside-out.
The US fleet went straight to Tokyo Bay and nowhere else. Tokugawa shogunate could mobilize 100K troops but decided against the fight because of Japan's artillery shortcomings.
The reason Japan gave up the fight against Americans while Koreans fought is because of differences in traditional artillery. Korea has the best artillery system in East Asia, one that was still partially effective against the western powers, while Japan's artillery was obsolete and few in number.

And the Meiji revolution would not have taken place if Tokugawa shogunate was strong enough to battle Americans.
The reason the French decided to wage a war against Korea was that Qing's court relied that Korea was an independent country making its own foreign policy decisions, and that Qong court's edict(The European missionaries are free to preach Christianity in Qing's territory) didn't reach Korea.
(对日本人)不止一些,里外都非常了解(日本历史)。美国舰队开往东京湾,德川ZF能调动10万军队来战争,但是日本的火炮射程不够。这是日本放弃抵抗的唯一原因。而韩国战斗因为它拥有当时东亚最好的火炮系统,这可以部分的对西方国家产生效果,而日本的火炮是老式的,数量也太少。如果日过德川ZF足够强大来对付美国,那么明治维新就不会发生。导致法国决定侵略高丽的原因是清廷回复法国说高丽是一个独立国家,它拥有自己的对外政策和决定权。西方的传教士能在中国的领土上传教,而这在高丽不被允许。

Why should Koreans expel American troops? They take orders from a Korean general from 2015 and onward.
(对楼上)为什么韩国要驱逐美国军队?2015年后他们将听命于一个韩国将军。

Then the French would have avoided the war with Korea in 1863 if that was true. The French has a record of what the Qing court really told them in 1863, the truth that our Chinese neighbors wouldn't want to hear.
(对楼上Sonyuke_Songpaisan)如果你说的是对的话,法国人就会极力避开和高丽开战,法国人有个1863清廷告示法国的记录 ,但是我们的邻居不太想听。      
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kawaraj(日本)  
yeah, inside out a slave mind naturally inherited from you slave ancestors, pretending to be something as that betray the reality.
ok, you are the professors of Japanese history, Chinese history, American history, only blind about your own history, a tragic thousand year of being rapd and slaved, if you continue to mutter like this, you are embarking another miserable thousand year.
Korea as a enslaved nation never changed, only the master change time to time, from Chinese, to Japanese and to the Americans, maybe next one will be Russians, Australians. that's so colorful I would say, just like your skin.
是啊,里外都是来自于你们祖先一个奴隶本性,粉饰那些和事实相反的事情。
好的,你是日本、中国、美国历史教授 ,但你对自己国家的历史却一无所知。一个悲剧的千年被强X、奴役史,如果你还在这吠,你将迎来下个千年悲剧史。
朝鲜半岛作为一个殖民地,从未改变,唯一改变的是那些殖民者,从中国,日本,美国,也许下个是俄罗斯、澳大利亚之间轮替。 这太多姿多彩了。      
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rcrmj(中国)  
and the funny part is their national flag is a direct copy of Chinese Taoism symble
还有他们可笑的国旗直接山寨于中国道教的标志。         
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Sonyuke_Songpaisan(中国)
definitely, They will claim that Taoism was created by them. they can do anything you cant imagine.
的确,他们还声称道教起源于韩国,他们能做一些你实在想不到的事。         
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Amolthebest(印度)  
How can you allow American drones attacking on your soldiers and innocent citizens.How can you allow marin raid in abottabad. Shishe ke ghar me rahanewale dusaro ko paththar nahi marate my dear Pakistani friend.And you even have not developed your country.
(对Pakistani Nationalist) 你怎么可以允许美国攻击你们的士兵和无辜的人民。你怎么可以允许美国海军陆战在阿伯塔巴德登陆。(。。。。。印度语?)我们亲爱的巴基斯坦兄弟。你还甚至没有发展起你们的国家。
         
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Avatar(印度)
I dont think he cares about looking in the mirror.  
我不认为他能从镜子中国看到自己。
呵呵,真是欢乐啊,棒子现在到了不赚口水就没有存在感的地步了
真是一篇人民群众喜闻乐见的好帖子!
牺牲自己,成全别人,棒子这是一种多么伟大的精神……
……病啊。
棒子太搞了,被搞来搞去居然还那么自信
哈哈哈,还有吗?
我喜欢现在的棒棒和脚盆。嘴硬和拳头硬,他们似乎都选择了前者并且喜欢前者。
在龙腾看到这贴的时候笑喷了。本来吧,中国和日本之间的事,韩国偏要来一招群嘲,硬把仇恨吸引到自己身上。
对棒子这种国际主义精神灰常佩服,希望棒子多多发扬国际主义精神啊
棒子拉仇恨的能力还真强,我估计那棒子自己也郁闷怎么说着说着全围攻自己了。。。
我明白了为什么宇宙人会呆在地球上了
唉,这样也可以,早知道我先转了呵呵。
喜闻乐见,各国人民果然都不把棒子当人看啊。。
这两天偶染小恙,看到这贴子立马神清气爽,多谢大寒冥国斯米大
朝鲜的文字在19世纪末20世纪初之前 由于政治文化地位地位低下,属于二流文字。自朝鲜脱离中华藩属体制之后,才有了独立意识的觉醒。在之前朝鲜的历史是以汉字为主而在。虽然朝鲜文字已有500多年历史,但作为全体国民而应用的历史只有不到百年的时间。不识汉字就不了解朝鲜自己的历史,从而被一些别有用心的韩国人用来肆意更改自己的历史,多么可悲的一个民族。
真心不待见韩国人。
有一次在南京书城那里的楼上吃饭,遇到几个棒子,那草性,都懒得说,真后悔当时没抄起板凳抡死Y的,哎,后悔啊!
这个国家是比较二的那种……
巴铁毕竟是 巴铁呀
的确,中日友好的前提是棒子。
韩国在观望期做出点儿莫名其妙的东西,可以接受。

脚盆可是很早就脱亚入欧,跟着西方把自己邻居欺压了一遍的,别现在又装可怜拽什么“亚洲同胞论”,很恶心。

真无聊,今天才知道还有日民众对华好感度这种东西。想起那些中日友好城市,如果是我的家乡,我一定会被恶心死。

and the funny part is their national flag is a direct copy of Chinese Taoism symble
还有他们可笑的国旗直接山寨于中国道教的标志。
一口老血
松弛的括约肌 发表于 2012-6-24 12:31
Korean(韩国)  
China did not.
中国没有。
我次奥。。。这就是宅男们在家撸多了。退化的表现啊~~~~~
棒子自信的原因是始终菊花有物,一个长期被菊捅的2B而言,没有被菊捅的是不正常的,菊捅的充实感和被谁捅没有关系。
不知道只是个别棒子对历史那么无知,还是所有棒子都如此,看棒子说话时总有处欢乐多的感觉
地球人已经不能阻止棒子了,
围观棒子被轮喷是一件让人心情愉快的事。。。
……大韩民国的理想教育是不是自我定位太高了啊

……居然敢撇开MD说事儿,唉,可怜的孩子啊
shijstud 发表于 2012-6-24 11:44
真心不待见韩国人。
有一次在南京书城那里的楼上吃饭,遇到几个棒子,那草性,都懒得说,真后悔当时没抄起 ...
庆祝一下吧,整整一岁了,出去找个棒子揍他一顿
呵呵,有点意思
czszh 发表于 2012-6-24 12:56
不知道只是个别棒子对历史那么无知,还是所有棒子都如此,看棒子说话时总有处欢乐多的感觉
谎言说了千遍就成了真理

关键是棒子的谎言没人听,只有对着自己自言自语,结果到最后把自己给洗脑了
棒子创造历史  脚盆否认历史  三哥执掌未来  弯弯掌握一切            兔子只掌握窝边草
shenhaid 发表于 2012-6-24 11:11
棒子拉仇恨的能力还真强,我估计那棒子自己也郁闷怎么说着说着全围攻自己了。。。
因为地球围着火星转呗
兔子,棒子,鬼子,在嘴炮这个范畴上经常上演现实的三国演义啊
每次吃罢饭看个跟棒子有关的新闻都会神清气爽的
没有煤气罐 发表于 2012-6-24 13:32
庆祝一下吧,整整一岁了,出去找个棒子揍他一顿
哥们你不说还真没注意,注册居然一年了!
”历史发明家”世界只认可棒子,别国培养出来的都没质量
看到棒子就不得不相信老希的话,这世界确实存在劣等民族啊
中日友好只是某些人一厢情愿罢了。狼子野心的东西永远也不会跟你有好的。