娘娘缺氧新解--都是飞行服惹的祸

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Air Force investigators believe a specialized flight suit could be partially responsible for some pilots experiencing a lack of oxygen while flying the F-22 fighter jet, according to a report by Air Force investigators.

Investigators are focusing on part of the suit, called the "Combat Edge," which hampers breathing and causes oxygen loss when combined with a physiological condition that collapses air sacs in the lungs, according to details of the report that were shared with Security Clearance.

The findings are expected to be part of the first monthly update by Air Force investigators to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta to be delivered later this week or early next week, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

Last month, Panetta ordered the updates on the investigation after the Air Force could not identify the cause of the continued issues with pilots complaining about coming close to passing out while flying the plane, which the service called "hypoxia-like symptoms."

Combat Edge is a vest-like garment that expands and contracts on a pilot's torso to fight the effects of severe G-forces experienced while flying the F-22. The problem being looked at is that the garment may restrict the pilots' breathing beyond what is intended, according to sources familiar with the report.

Another possible problem for pilots, the report is expected to say, is a condition called acceleration atelectasis, which causes a pilot's lungs to not effectively deliver oxygen to the bloodstream. The condition for F-22 pilots is caused when extreme gravity and breathing almost pure oxygen in the F-22 cockpit partially collapse air sacs in the lungs, according to the sources.

Acceleration atelectasis causes a heavy cough, which F-22 pilots have called the "Raptor cough" after the nickname of the fighter, "Raptor."

Pilots have complained about the cough in connection with the hypoxia-like conditions as they fly the F-22, the most technologically advanced plane in history, often at altitudes much higher than regular aircraft fly. The pilots also perform maneuvers that put their bodies through extreme conditions.

In an e-mail response to questions by Security Clearance, Air Force spokesman Lt. Col. John Dorrian said, "Recent testing has identified some vulnerability and reliability issues in the upper pressure garment worn by F-22 pilots. Air Combat Command has directed pilots to remove the upper pressure garment during routine flight operations, and Air Force officials are developing a fix to overcome the identified issues."

The findings in the update report to be given to Panetta are not final, according to the sources. Air Force officials say investigators are narrowing down the cause of the problem, which has intermittently plagued the aircraft since 2008.The problem compounded in September 2011 as more pilots complained of experiencing the symptoms.

The Combat Edge problem does not explain why some mechanics have also suffered from hypoxia while working on the planes on the ground.

The fleet was grounded in May 2011 so the service could check the hypoxia reports, but the order was lifted in September under a "return to fly" plan, with equipment modifications and new rules including daily inspections of the life-support systems.

Investigators initially pointed to an onboard oxygen generating system that pilots used to breathe as a possible cause.

Lockheed Martin, the maker of the jet, was given a $19 million contract to install a backup oxygen system in the F-22 last week.

Last month, Panetta mandated that all F-22 flights "remain within the proximity of potential landing locations" to ensure the ability to recover and land should a pilot run into "unanticipated physiological conditions."

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Air Force investigators believe a specialized flight suit could be partially responsible for some pilots experiencing a lack of oxygen while flying the F-22 fighter jet, according to a report by Air Force investigators.

Investigators are focusing on part of the suit, called the "Combat Edge," which hampers breathing and causes oxygen loss when combined with a physiological condition that collapses air sacs in the lungs, according to details of the report that were shared with Security Clearance.

The findings are expected to be part of the first monthly update by Air Force investigators to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta to be delivered later this week or early next week, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

Last month, Panetta ordered the updates on the investigation after the Air Force could not identify the cause of the continued issues with pilots complaining about coming close to passing out while flying the plane, which the service called "hypoxia-like symptoms."

Combat Edge is a vest-like garment that expands and contracts on a pilot's torso to fight the effects of severe G-forces experienced while flying the F-22. The problem being looked at is that the garment may restrict the pilots' breathing beyond what is intended, according to sources familiar with the report.

Another possible problem for pilots, the report is expected to say, is a condition called acceleration atelectasis, which causes a pilot's lungs to not effectively deliver oxygen to the bloodstream. The condition for F-22 pilots is caused when extreme gravity and breathing almost pure oxygen in the F-22 cockpit partially collapse air sacs in the lungs, according to the sources.

Acceleration atelectasis causes a heavy cough, which F-22 pilots have called the "Raptor cough" after the nickname of the fighter, "Raptor."

Pilots have complained about the cough in connection with the hypoxia-like conditions as they fly the F-22, the most technologically advanced plane in history, often at altitudes much higher than regular aircraft fly. The pilots also perform maneuvers that put their bodies through extreme conditions.

In an e-mail response to questions by Security Clearance, Air Force spokesman Lt. Col. John Dorrian said, "Recent testing has identified some vulnerability and reliability issues in the upper pressure garment worn by F-22 pilots. Air Combat Command has directed pilots to remove the upper pressure garment during routine flight operations, and Air Force officials are developing a fix to overcome the identified issues."

The findings in the update report to be given to Panetta are not final, according to the sources. Air Force officials say investigators are narrowing down the cause of the problem, which has intermittently plagued the aircraft since 2008.The problem compounded in September 2011 as more pilots complained of experiencing the symptoms.

The Combat Edge problem does not explain why some mechanics have also suffered from hypoxia while working on the planes on the ground.

The fleet was grounded in May 2011 so the service could check the hypoxia reports, but the order was lifted in September under a "return to fly" plan, with equipment modifications and new rules including daily inspections of the life-support systems.

Investigators initially pointed to an onboard oxygen generating system that pilots used to breathe as a possible cause.

Lockheed Martin, the maker of the jet, was given a $19 million contract to install a backup oxygen system in the F-22 last week.

Last month, Panetta mandated that all F-22 flights "remain within the proximity of potential landing locations" to ensure the ability to recover and land should a pilot run into "unanticipated physiological conditions."


请翻译下吧!!!百度翻译的!!!
空军调查人员相信专业飞行服可以部分负责一些飞行员经历缺乏氧气而飞F - 22战斗机,据报道,美国空军人员。

调查的重点部分的花色,被称为“战斗的边缘,“妨碍呼吸和氧结合生理条件下,折叠气囊在肺部,据报告细节,共享与安全检查。

调查结果预计将在部分第一每月更新的空中武力调查国防部长列昂·帕内塔将在这周或下周初,知情调查。

上个月,帕内塔下令更新的调查后,空军无法查明原因的持续问题与飞行员抱怨快要昏倒而飞行的飞机,其中服务称为“缺氧样症状。”

战斗的边缘是一个背心式服装,扩大和合同对飞行员的躯干与严重的重力而飞F - 22。这个问题被看着是服装可能限制飞行员呼吸以后有什么打算,据消息灵通人士的报告。

另一个可能的对飞行员的问题,预计报告说,是一个条件,称为加速度肺不张,使飞行员的肺部不能有效地提供氧气的血液。F - 22战斗机飞行员的条件时造成极端严重性和呼吸几乎纯氧在F - 22座舱部分倒塌肺部空气囊,据消息来源。

加速度肺不张的原因沉重的咳嗽,这22飞行员称为“猛禽咳嗽”后的昵称的战斗机,“猛禽”。

飞行员抱怨咳嗽在与缺氧样条件他们飞F - 22,技术最先进的飞机的历史,经常在海拔远高于普通飞机飞。飞行员也进行演习,把他们的身体通过极端条件。

在一封回应问题的安全检查,空军发言人中校约翰多利安说,“最近的试验已经确定了一些脆弱性和可靠性问题上穿的服装战机飞行员。空军作战司令部已指示飞行员删除上压力服装在例行飞行操作,和空军官员正在开发一个解决克服已查明的问题。”

结果在更新报告给了帕内塔并不是最终的,据消息来源。空军官员说,调查人员正在缩小了问题的原因,有间歇性困扰飞机自2008的复杂问题。在九月2011随着越来越多的飞行员抱怨遇到的症状。

战斗的边缘化问题并不能解释为什么一些力学也因缺氧而工作在地面的飞机。

舰队的基础是2011,该服务可以检查缺氧报告,但命令在九月解除下一个“归飞”计划,与设备改造和新规则包括日常检查的生命支持系统。

调查人员最初指出机载制氧系统,飞行员使用呼吸作为一个可能的原因。

洛克希德马丁公司,制造商的喷气式飞机,获得了19000000美元的合同,安装一个备份系统在上周的F - 22。

上个月,帕内塔下令所有22”仍然在接近潜在的着陆地点”确保恢复能力和土地应试点运行到意想不到的生理条件。”

请翻译下吧!!!百度翻译的!!!
空军调查人员相信专业飞行服可以部分负责一些飞行员经历缺乏氧气而飞F - 22战斗机,据报道,美国空军人员。

调查的重点部分的花色,被称为“战斗的边缘,“妨碍呼吸和氧结合生理条件下,折叠气囊在肺部,据报告细节,共享与安全检查。

调查结果预计将在部分第一每月更新的空中武力调查国防部长列昂·帕内塔将在这周或下周初,知情调查。

上个月,帕内塔下令更新的调查后,空军无法查明原因的持续问题与飞行员抱怨快要昏倒而飞行的飞机,其中服务称为“缺氧样症状。”

战斗的边缘是一个背心式服装,扩大和合同对飞行员的躯干与严重的重力而飞F - 22。这个问题被看着是服装可能限制飞行员呼吸以后有什么打算,据消息灵通人士的报告。

另一个可能的对飞行员的问题,预计报告说,是一个条件,称为加速度肺不张,使飞行员的肺部不能有效地提供氧气的血液。F - 22战斗机飞行员的条件时造成极端严重性和呼吸几乎纯氧在F - 22座舱部分倒塌肺部空气囊,据消息来源。

加速度肺不张的原因沉重的咳嗽,这22飞行员称为“猛禽咳嗽”后的昵称的战斗机,“猛禽”。

飞行员抱怨咳嗽在与缺氧样条件他们飞F - 22,技术最先进的飞机的历史,经常在海拔远高于普通飞机飞。飞行员也进行演习,把他们的身体通过极端条件。

在一封回应问题的安全检查,空军发言人中校约翰多利安说,“最近的试验已经确定了一些脆弱性和可靠性问题上穿的服装战机飞行员。空军作战司令部已指示飞行员删除上压力服装在例行飞行操作,和空军官员正在开发一个解决克服已查明的问题。”

结果在更新报告给了帕内塔并不是最终的,据消息来源。空军官员说,调查人员正在缩小了问题的原因,有间歇性困扰飞机自2008的复杂问题。在九月2011随着越来越多的飞行员抱怨遇到的症状。

战斗的边缘化问题并不能解释为什么一些力学也因缺氧而工作在地面的飞机。

舰队的基础是2011,该服务可以检查缺氧报告,但命令在九月解除下一个“归飞”计划,与设备改造和新规则包括日常检查的生命支持系统。

调查人员最初指出机载制氧系统,飞行员使用呼吸作为一个可能的原因。

洛克希德马丁公司,制造商的喷气式飞机,获得了19000000美元的合同,安装一个备份系统在上周的F - 22。

上个月,帕内塔下令所有22”仍然在接近潜在的着陆地点”确保恢复能力和土地应试点运行到意想不到的生理条件。”
着机翻看着蛋疼,,
图160轰炸机 发表于 2012-6-14 10:52
请翻译下吧!!!百度翻译的!!!
空军调查人员相信专业飞行服可以部分负责一些飞行员经历缺乏氧气而飞F  ...
还将就看的懂
百度貌似翻得比股沟还是好些哈
请问,座舱盖绿色的部分是什么?   
绿色应该是全息平显,也叫衍射平显
没有定论的事,还是拭目以待吧
还是继续缺氧比较好
到现在都还是没有整明白,喜闻乐见啊!!!!!
一直搞不清楚才好
这都行???无语了,,,查个缺氧问题查那么久???真心想查,,F35才多大个地方啊....
想要钱你就直接说,,搞什么缺氧
这飞行服肯定是中国产的。这样解释才带感。
抗荷服设计有问题,高G机动的时候摄氧量不足。娘娘难道天天大过载高难度体位?
发过了

http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1395851-1-1.html
又一新鲜说法,不过这也只能解释飞行员的问题,但地勤有人员也有症状怎么解释?
出问题不稀奇;
稀奇的是航空领域第一大国、化工领域第一大国、仪器仪表领域第一大国兼超级霸主,
整了好几年搞不明白一个战机供氧问题何在,各种理论层出不穷。

什么机库空调、隐身涂料、飞行服等等,纷纷躺枪
绿林奸汉 发表于 2012-6-14 18:40
出问题不稀奇;
稀奇的是航空领域第一大国、化工领域第一大国、仪器仪表领域第一大国兼超级霸主,
整了好 ...
复数的美国空军的声明有意无意的强调:F-22的高空、高G、长时间、疯狂机动把航空病理学研究推到了一个极限,世界上没有任何一种飞机在这些条件下“疯狂机动”。

—————————————————————————————

5月8日美国空军负责装备的珍妮特 沃芬伯格中将在参议院听证时说:“我们认识到我们飞行这些飞机与我们其它任何种类的战斗机都不同。我们在更高的高度飞行,我们在这个高度长时间以高G飞行,飞行员在长时间内需要依靠这个氧气系统。”

沃芬伯格中将还说:“我们最近的数据让我们认为已经接近找到根本原因。但我还不能说我们已经可以宣称找到了根本原因。”

沃芬伯格中将表示,国防部、宇航局、科学界、学术界的专家为此问题已经进行了长期的研究,但正因为F--22使用与F/A-18E/F类似的的制氧系统在没有任何一种战斗机经历过的“极端的环境中”飞行也正是目前还没有解决这个问题的原因。

当问及空军如何看待在“六十分钟”栏目里“告密”的民兵飞行员时,沃芬伯格表示这些所谓“告密者”受空军的保护。

http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1379453-1-1.html


Hostage上将表示F-22出现了与F-16战斗机相似的的未知病理和技术现象。“我们的注意力集中在航空病理和F-22的飞行环境。这种飞机在飞行中所做的是任何一种飞机从来没有做过的。”

http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1376328-1-1.html


空军空战指挥部针对F-22的氧气问题采取了四十种安全措施。除了飞官可以通过“脉搏血氧仪”监视自己的缺氧情况外,飞行员还可以拉开旁边一个“紧急氧气环”,在拉开这个环后,飞机自动下降到不缺氧的高度。

笑脸男人 发表于 2012-6-14 19:34
复数的美国空军的声明有意无意的强调:F-22的高空、高G、长时间、疯狂机动把航空病理学研究推到了一个极限 ...
他们的意思是说,F-22整天没事干,就在高空不停地做超音速高G机动,所以杯具了;

当年的黑鸟飞行员,高空高速更胜一筹,只是没有做超音速机动;
问题是超音速机动对人或者设备的负荷与亚音速高G机动没啥区别。

绿林奸汉 发表于 2012-6-14 19:40
他们的意思是说,F-22整天没事干,就在高空不停地做超音速高G机动,所以杯具了;

当年的黑鸟飞行员,高 ...


黑鸟的飞行员穿的是宇航服

是这样的:Hostage上将表示F-22出现了与F-16战斗机相似的的未知病理和技术现象。

F-16曾经有段时间因为高G导致飞行员失去知觉,造成坠机,现在的代偿服就是那时候发展出来的
绿林奸汉 发表于 2012-6-14 19:40
他们的意思是说,F-22整天没事干,就在高空不停地做超音速高G机动,所以杯具了;

当年的黑鸟飞行员,高 ...


黑鸟的飞行员穿的是宇航服

是这样的:Hostage上将表示F-22出现了与F-16战斗机相似的的未知病理和技术现象。

F-16曾经有段时间因为高G导致飞行员失去知觉,造成坠机,现在的代偿服就是那时候发展出来的
你们都错了   是飞行员好氧量太高
氧气机论 隐身材料有毒论 数据量大论 这回又是飞行服论。。。。纳尼。。
不是说地勤也发生过缺氧吗!地勤又没有穿飞行服。
坐等TG何时中枪……

某日新闻:娘娘缺氧案水落石出,终因TG零件质量差~
坐等TG何时中枪……

某日新闻:娘娘缺氧案水落石出,终因TG零件质量差~
最终查明,此批零件系DG某地下加工厂所造,不但质量奇差,而且还xx严重超标……
nan.109 发表于 2012-6-15 08:26
最终查明,此批零件系DG某地下加工厂所造,不但质量奇差,而且还xx严重超标……
并给MD飞飞带来无法恢复的身体机能损害

故大美利坚政府要求TG本着两国一贯以来的友好政策,对这一事件进行详尽的调查,并给冥煮世界一个交代~
偶怎么就不信是啥缺氧的事呢?肯定有其他原因的,航天也没见缺氧啊……