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《军情前哨站》第40期：歼二十研发放缓，发动机暴露两大致命缺陷
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说的没错，的确是放缓了。01去伊朗旅游，02在成都和J10JF17K8三个难兄难弟打麻将，这能快的起来嘛。
标题党，不信谣，不传谣，建议锁贴
就02的试飞来说，最近每怎么出来。
但也有可能是在改装和调节设备，爆发前兆
但也有可能是在改装和调节设备，爆发前兆
四代机停飞的停飞，起火的喷火，你好意思快吗？
为什么总有这么无聊的人？
美国高科技外流和熟悉西方技术的工程师的帮助下，中国也能研制出高性能发动机。
亮点在这
亮点在这
如果这是造谣，问题是本国媒体啊
这主持人感觉怪怪的·
面壁者晨曦 发表于 2012-6-6 22:26 ![]()
美国高科技外流和熟悉西方技术的工程师的帮助下，中国也能研制出高性能发动机。
亮点在这
很多人不明白航空发动机难在制造，不是难在设计
美国高科技外流和熟悉西方技术的工程师的帮助下，中国也能研制出高性能发动机。
亮点在这
很多人不明白航空发动机难在制造，不是难在设计
炬目人 发表于 2012-6-6 22:30 ![]()
如果这是造谣，问题是本国媒体啊
你以为为本国媒体就等于官方吗？
多少国媒是直接引用外媒的扯淡，我记得首先说20放缓的就是外媒
如果这是造谣，问题是本国媒体啊
你以为为本国媒体就等于官方吗？
多少国媒是直接引用外媒的扯淡，我记得首先说20放缓的就是外媒
百病良医小白兔 发表于 2012-6-6 22:35 ![]()
很多人不明白航空发动机难在制造，不是难在设计
设计也不容易，边试边改。
很多人不明白航空发动机难在制造，不是难在设计
设计也不容易，边试边改。
发动机就得自行研制，不论其理论还是材料、工艺！
就应该给那些发动机生产和研制部门，还有各种材料研制和工艺设计部门这个明确的信号！
就应该给那些发动机生产和研制部门，还有各种材料研制和工艺设计部门这个明确的信号！
中国的飞机发动机，一定会发展起来的。
Pacific Air Forces led a 26-member Site Activation Task Force (SATAF) team which traveled to both installations in April to study the overall impact of the F-16 squadron move scheduled for FY13.
The team validated that, after an initial outlay of $5.6 million in FY13, the move will result in manpower savings of 81 military positions and cost savings of $14.6 million over the next five years, through a combination of manpower and efficiency savings generated by consolidating operations and maintenance supervision overhead and base support functions.
The relocation is one part of the Air Force's fiscal year 2013 force structure adjustments, which are designed to save approximately $8.7 billion of the Air Force's $54 billion share of savings across the Future Years Defense Plan. The SATAF report specifically details actions needed to move the Aggressors in FY13 and details planning and incidental costs associated with this action.
Eielson hosts the only wing in the active duty Air Force that has only a single operational squadron. In addition to expected cost savings, this move would lead to more efficient operations by locating the F-16 Aggressor aircraft with their primary customers, the F-22 Raptors at Elmendorf. The F-16 Aggressors will retain the capability to operate from Eielson during exercises and as otherwise needed.
"Eielson Air Force Base is, and will continue to be, a valuable strategic location as part of the Total Force," said Brig. Gen. Mark McLeod, Director of Logistics, Pacific Air Forces, and SATAF team lead. "The base will remain the home station for the Alaska Air National Guard's 168th Air Refueling Wing and will provide critical training through the Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex supporting major joint training exercises such as Red Flag, Distant Frontier and Northern Edge."
In addition to the savings generated from the F-16 squadron move, the Air Force expects there will be additional savings based on proposed base operating support manpower adjustments in FY15. The estimated follow-on cost savings are projected to be approximately $90 million per year beginning in FY16, and $227 million across the FYDP.
These savings are based on eliminating 749 military and 179 civilian manpower authorizations that analysis determined would no longer be needed at Eielson once the remaining infrastructure and support functions are adjusted after the Aggressor Squadron's relocation. Savings resulting from the base operating support adjustments in FY15 will be further refined in future SATAFs.
The team validated that, after an initial outlay of $5.6 million in FY13, the move will result in manpower savings of 81 military positions and cost savings of $14.6 million over the next five years, through a combination of manpower and efficiency savings generated by consolidating operations and maintenance supervision overhead and base support functions.
The relocation is one part of the Air Force's fiscal year 2013 force structure adjustments, which are designed to save approximately $8.7 billion of the Air Force's $54 billion share of savings across the Future Years Defense Plan. The SATAF report specifically details actions needed to move the Aggressors in FY13 and details planning and incidental costs associated with this action.
Eielson hosts the only wing in the active duty Air Force that has only a single operational squadron. In addition to expected cost savings, this move would lead to more efficient operations by locating the F-16 Aggressor aircraft with their primary customers, the F-22 Raptors at Elmendorf. The F-16 Aggressors will retain the capability to operate from Eielson during exercises and as otherwise needed.
"Eielson Air Force Base is, and will continue to be, a valuable strategic location as part of the Total Force," said Brig. Gen. Mark McLeod, Director of Logistics, Pacific Air Forces, and SATAF team lead. "The base will remain the home station for the Alaska Air National Guard's 168th Air Refueling Wing and will provide critical training through the Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex supporting major joint training exercises such as Red Flag, Distant Frontier and Northern Edge."
In addition to the savings generated from the F-16 squadron move, the Air Force expects there will be additional savings based on proposed base operating support manpower adjustments in FY15. The estimated follow-on cost savings are projected to be approximately $90 million per year beginning in FY16, and $227 million across the FYDP.
These savings are based on eliminating 749 military and 179 civilian manpower authorizations that analysis determined would no longer be needed at Eielson once the remaining infrastructure and support functions are adjusted after the Aggressor Squadron's relocation. Savings resulting from the base operating support adjustments in FY15 will be further refined in future SATAFs.
"Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron 501 has had an exciting year with the arrival of our first three aircraft in January, the official roll out ceremony in February and now generating sorties along with other military service and contract partners here," said Lt. Col. David R. Berke, commanding officer of VMFAT-501.
The goal for Marines was to start local area operations and conventional flights, beginning the process of gradually expanding the envelope to short takeoffs and vertical landings (STOVL) and more complex aerial training.
The F-35B is part of the Marine Corps' ongoing effort to modernize its aging fleet of aircraft and to take advantage of fifth generation technology that will greatly enhance its capabilities as America's expeditionary crisis response force. Once fully fielded, the Joint Strike Fighter will replace the F/A-18 Hornet, EA-6B Prowler and AV-8B Harrier.
With a fully-fielded fleet of F-35Bs and F-35Cs, America will maintain 22 capital ships - 11 carrier and 11 amphibious assault - with strike assets capable of projecting influence and conducting strike operations.
"It's another milestone in what we are calling our execution year," said Col. Andrew Toth, 33rd FW commander. "Adding more aircraft to the fleet, filling up the flying schedule with two aircraft variants and certification classes ongoing at our F-35 Academic Training Center are testimonies of our wing's success in standing up our nation's Joint Strike Fighter training for future generations."
Since 2009, the Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps have sent their best aviators and aircraft mechanics to pave the way for this execution year and beyond. Each service's operational squadron is collocated on the 33rd FW flight line, sharing capabilities although each reports through its own chain of command. VMFAT-501 reports to 2nd MAW, headquartered at Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point, N.C.
Maintainers have been preparing for today's launch with engine runs and taxi operations for approximately eight months since F-35 aircraft began arriving here last summer. Utilizing virtual trainers, developing pilot curriculum and hosting small group tryouts has been the focus for personnel readying themselves for flight operations to come.
"It's amazing to believe 100 years ago Marine Corps aviation started and here today we launched a fifth generation aircraft," said Marine Sgt. Eric Spence, VMFAT-501 plane captain for the first F-35B sortie. "It's history in the making. Every time one of those engines fires up I get pumped up and today it was a little extra."
The power plant mechanic said he prepared for the last six months by being involved in any F-35 maintenance training he could at the 33rd FW.
January's arrival of the first F-35Bs to Eglin Air Force Base was called an historic event in Marine aviation history by the Deputy Commandant for Aviation, Lt. Gen. Terry G. Robling.
"With the arrival of that evolutionary aircraft, the first in a line of 420 Joint Strike Fighters that we will integrate into the force, we have come full circle nearly a century since our first aviator took flight," he said.
The goal for Marines was to start local area operations and conventional flights, beginning the process of gradually expanding the envelope to short takeoffs and vertical landings (STOVL) and more complex aerial training.
The F-35B is part of the Marine Corps' ongoing effort to modernize its aging fleet of aircraft and to take advantage of fifth generation technology that will greatly enhance its capabilities as America's expeditionary crisis response force. Once fully fielded, the Joint Strike Fighter will replace the F/A-18 Hornet, EA-6B Prowler and AV-8B Harrier.
With a fully-fielded fleet of F-35Bs and F-35Cs, America will maintain 22 capital ships - 11 carrier and 11 amphibious assault - with strike assets capable of projecting influence and conducting strike operations.
"It's another milestone in what we are calling our execution year," said Col. Andrew Toth, 33rd FW commander. "Adding more aircraft to the fleet, filling up the flying schedule with two aircraft variants and certification classes ongoing at our F-35 Academic Training Center are testimonies of our wing's success in standing up our nation's Joint Strike Fighter training for future generations."
Since 2009, the Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps have sent their best aviators and aircraft mechanics to pave the way for this execution year and beyond. Each service's operational squadron is collocated on the 33rd FW flight line, sharing capabilities although each reports through its own chain of command. VMFAT-501 reports to 2nd MAW, headquartered at Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point, N.C.
Maintainers have been preparing for today's launch with engine runs and taxi operations for approximately eight months since F-35 aircraft began arriving here last summer. Utilizing virtual trainers, developing pilot curriculum and hosting small group tryouts has been the focus for personnel readying themselves for flight operations to come.
"It's amazing to believe 100 years ago Marine Corps aviation started and here today we launched a fifth generation aircraft," said Marine Sgt. Eric Spence, VMFAT-501 plane captain for the first F-35B sortie. "It's history in the making. Every time one of those engines fires up I get pumped up and today it was a little extra."
The power plant mechanic said he prepared for the last six months by being involved in any F-35 maintenance training he could at the 33rd FW.
January's arrival of the first F-35Bs to Eglin Air Force Base was called an historic event in Marine aviation history by the Deputy Commandant for Aviation, Lt. Gen. Terry G. Robling.
"With the arrival of that evolutionary aircraft, the first in a line of 420 Joint Strike Fighters that we will integrate into the force, we have come full circle nearly a century since our first aviator took flight," he said.
炬目人 发表于 2012-6-6 22:30 ![]()
如果这是造谣，问题是本国媒体啊
------------一点都不奇怪,那么多三妈媒体南方系,真的不奇怪,人家造谣有理
如果这是造谣，问题是本国媒体啊
------------一点都不奇怪,那么多三妈媒体南方系,真的不奇怪,人家造谣有理
什么捕风捉影的路边消息也拿来当真事一样
路边社消息吧，不足为奇。
呢玛，不造谣会死啊
很多人不明白航空发动机难在制造，不是难在设计
造出来，才能验证设计是否合理，然后再改进设计，重新制造。
造出来，才能验证设计是否合理，然后再改进设计，重新制造。
炬目人 发表于 2012-6-6 22:30 ![]()
如果这是造谣，问题是本国媒体啊
网易带路党,南方系jy团表示造谣有理,辟谣有罪
如果这是造谣，问题是本国媒体啊
网易带路党,南方系jy团表示造谣有理,辟谣有罪
这种消息听听就好了..真要认真你就输了..
主持人只是混口饭吃而已，大家何必那么认真呢
搞半天就是说，TG的发动机技术来自MD的技术外流啊？？
路边社的消息从来都是胡说瞎猜的，蛋定
loong5 发表于 2012-6-6 23:56 ![]()
主持人只是混口饭吃而已，大家何必那么认真呢
611/成飞的人也是赚血汗钱的，主持人为什么就不积点口德呢？
主持人只是混口饭吃而已，大家何必那么认真呢
611/成飞的人也是赚血汗钱的，主持人为什么就不积点口德呢？
不传谣不造谣...
路边社消息，仅供参考
路边社消息，仅供烧烤。
咱们的发发只能自主研发 ok?去哪里抄啊
现在媒体的军事版是不是都是娱乐版的人在兼职啊，一点常识都没有。建议强制培训，也不用去军事院校了，来cd当半年小兵发帖1000就ok了。
炬目人 发表于 2012-6-6 22:30 ![]()
如果这是造谣，问题是本国媒体啊
本国媒体还不如平秃子靠谱呢！！
如果这是造谣，问题是本国媒体啊
本国媒体还不如平秃子靠谱呢！！
面壁者晨曦 发表于 2012-6-6 22:26 ![]()
美国高科技外流和熟悉西方技术的工程师的帮助下，中国也能研制出高性能发动机。
亮点在这
说这的原因那是怕TG赤裸裸的来个打脸。。。到时候就说是在美国高科技外流和熟悉西方技术的工程师的帮助下
仿制出来了嘛
美国高科技外流和熟悉西方技术的工程师的帮助下，中国也能研制出高性能发动机。
亮点在这
说这的原因那是怕TG赤裸裸的来个打脸。。。到时候就说是在美国高科技外流和熟悉西方技术的工程师的帮助下
仿制出来了嘛
发动机这事儿，总要被从一知半解的军迷拿来说道一番，以示其睿智博学。
这水平明显不如平秃
谁说的！谁说的！
等街打脸！
等街打脸！
2002都出来了，飞上天了，一切正常阿
哦，非得天天飞是吧
哦，非得天天飞是吧
国之利器不可视于人……
咱手里拿把大刀，已经明晃晃的了，周边的小兄弟都吓哆嗦了，再告诉人家我这把刀很快就开刃了，那周边的小兄弟们不得吓得尿裤子呀？
所以嘛……必须得说 大刀打磨放缓、刀刃暴致命缺陷。
咱手里拿把大刀，已经明晃晃的了，周边的小兄弟都吓哆嗦了，再告诉人家我这把刀很快就开刃了，那周边的小兄弟们不得吓得尿裤子呀？
所以嘛……必须得说 大刀打磨放缓、刀刃暴致命缺陷。
说实话，J20那时真不慢。F22用了多少年啊。不过担心发动机拖后腿那是真的，到现在估计2002上可能用的是国发WS-10改，但要说WS-15， 目前没任何消息，急啊。