请教一战、二战各主要参战国阵亡的最高军官

意大利不算吗？好像人家死了个元帅哦。虽然是被自己人干掉的。

小胡子算吗？虽然他只是一个下士，可曼施坦因等老将也在他的指挥之下

PLApolymer 发表于 2012-5-17 10:39
小胡子算吗？虽然他只是一个下士，可曼施坦因等老将也在他的指挥之下
自杀当然不能算了

苏联的瓦图京大将、切尔霍夫斯基大将，均为方面军正职；阿纳尔帕先科达大将，为方面军副职。

意呆被自己人打死的元帅

博克是被牛牛空袭搞死的吧。。。
大米最大的就是冲绳的巴克纳中将了吧。。。

一战是英国的 赫伯特 基秦拿 （Herbert Kitchener, 1st Earl Kitchener） 1916年6月5日，乘坐的军舰触雷。

二战吗，山本同学是最高的

美军在二战期间死亡的中将有四个而且全是陆军：弗兰克。麦柯斯韦。安得鲁斯（Frank Maxwell Andrews），驻欧美军总司令，1943年5月3日视察部队时因飞机坠毁遇难，莱斯利。詹姆斯。麦克乃尔（Lesley James McNair）美军地面部队指挥官，1944年7月25日在诺曼底被第八航空队干翻，麦克乃尔得儿子道格拉斯。麦克乃尔上校第77师参谋长两周后在关岛被日军狙击手干翻，小塞蒙。布拉维。巴克纳（Simon Bolivar Buckner, Jr. ） ，第十集团军司令，1945年6月18日在冲绳被日军火炮干翻，米拉德。哈蒙（Millard Harmon），第二十航空队执行指挥官，1945年2月25日在乘机返回华盛顿时在太平洋上失踪，1946年2月25日宣告死亡。1954年7月19日美国国会决议同意对麦克乃尔和巴克纳追加晋升为上将。

传说中的好人卡 发表于 2012-5-17 11:07
博克是被牛牛空袭搞死的吧。。。
大米最大的就是冲绳的巴克纳中将了吧。。。

美军在二战期间死亡的中将有四个而且全是陆军：弗兰克。麦柯斯韦。安得鲁斯（Frank Maxwell Andrews），驻欧美军总司令，1943年5月3日视察部队时因飞机坠毁遇难，莱斯利。詹姆斯。麦克乃尔（Lesley James McNair）美军地面部队指挥官，1944年7月25日在诺曼底被第八航空队干翻，麦克乃尔得儿子道格拉斯。麦克乃尔上校第77师参谋长两周后在关岛被日军狙击手干翻，小塞蒙。布拉维。巴克纳（Simon Bolivar Buckner, Jr. ） ，第十集团军司令，1945年6月18日在冲绳被日军火炮干翻，米拉德。哈蒙（Millard Harmon），第二十航空队执行指挥官，1945年2月25日在乘机返回华盛顿时在太平洋上失踪，1946年2月25日宣告死亡。1954年7月19日美国国会决议同意对麦克乃尔和巴克纳追加晋升为上将。

国军是张自忠吗？

德国，阵亡的最高是谁？

绿林奸汉 发表于 2012-5-17 12:19
德国，阵亡的最高是谁？
国防军:费多尔．冯．博克元帅
党卫队:海因里希上将

Fan1 发表于 2012-5-17 12:09
美军在二战期间死亡的中将有四个而且全是陆军：弗兰克。麦柯斯韦。安得鲁斯（Frank Maxwell Andrews）， ...
诺曼底被第八航空干翻
这是怎么回事？误伤？

绿林奸汉 发表于 2012-5-17 12:34
诺曼底被第八航空干翻
这是怎么回事？误伤？
被B17的投弹炸死了,死的相当冤

120mm×2的距离 发表于 2012-5-17 10:59
意呆被自己人打死的元帅
貌似还是空军元帅的吧。。。被死对头搞死了。。。O(∩_∩)O哈哈~

第八航空队共出动1500架重型轰炸机、380架中型轰炸机和550架战斗轰炸机为眼镜蛇行动洗地，共投掷了4000吨高爆弹和凝固汽油，当时第八航空队两次将炸弹投掷在美军阵地上，造成241死，620伤，其中一次77架飞机偏离目标，一枚正好落在中将的散兵坑里。

绿林奸汉 发表于 2012-5-17 12:34
诺曼底被第八航空干翻
这是怎么回事？误伤？

SSN19 发表于 2012-5-17 12:40
被B17的投弹炸死了,死的相当冤

第八航空队共出动1500架重型轰炸机、380架中型轰炸机和550架战斗轰炸机为眼镜蛇行动洗地，共投掷了4000吨高爆弹和凝固汽油，当时第八航空队两次将炸弹投掷在美军阵地上，造成241死，620伤，其中一次77架飞机偏离目标，一枚正好落在中将的散兵坑里。

被B17的投弹炸死了,死的相当冤
他一死可真是天佑美利坚....
此人曾经想让M26用76炮....

Fan1 发表于 2012-5-17 12:59
当时第八航空队正在为眼镜蛇行动洗地时两次将炸弹投掷在美军阵地上，造成241死，620伤（第八航空队 ...
事后有人上军事法庭吗

在我印象中好像是有。

SSN19 发表于 2012-5-17 13:04
事后有人上军事法庭吗

在我印象中好像是有。

绿林奸汉 发表于 2012-5-17 12:12
国军是张自忠吗？
第36集团军司令 李家钰也是上将吧

Fan1 发表于 2012-5-17 12:59
第八航空队为眼镜蛇行动洗地时两次将炸弹投掷在美军阵地上，造成241死，620伤（第八航空队共出动15 ...
那岂不是尸骨无存？

日本应该战死的应该是山本五十六海军大将，另外白川义则陆军大将在上海被尹奉吉炸死。对战的时候被片死的，阿部规秀陆军中将也应该排得上号。
中国方面，张自忠追晋一级上将应该是战死军衔最高的。
欧洲战场的不怎么熟，不过意大利的是巴尔博空军元帅，死于自家的防空炮火。
美国在冲绳被冷枪打死一个中将，应该是最高的之一。

巴博尔元帅会永远被我们军迷记住。

绿林奸汉 发表于 2012-5-17 13:24
那岂不是尸骨无存？
按布莱德利的说法好歹还剩了点渣。

说到友军交火或者误伤，最倒霉应该算是美30师120步兵团，1944年8月7日先后六次被英国皇家空军空袭，最乌龙的应该算1944年8月8日美77师的两个营在关岛的交火，关岛友军交火事件由迫击炮试射引起，两个营先是轻武器交火，后是坦克参加，最后发展到叫炮火支援，幸好为双方提供炮火支援的是同一个炮兵单位，及时发现并制止了这次交火，如果不是两个营同时呼叫同一炮兵营或者两个营中的任何一个呼叫飞机火力支援，这事不知道还会向什么方向发展，说不定到最后连战列舰都会被邀请来参加舞会。

说到友军交火或者误伤，最倒霉应该算是美30师120步兵团，1944年8月7日先后六次被英国皇家空军空袭，最乌龙的应该算1944年8月8日美77师的两个营在关岛的交火，关岛友军交火事件由迫击炮试射引起，两个营先是轻武器交火，后是坦克参加，最后发展到叫炮火支援，幸好为双方提供炮火支援的是同一个炮兵单位，及时发现并制止了这次交火，如果不是两个营同时呼叫同一炮兵营或者两个营中的任何一个呼叫飞机火力支援，这事不知道还会向什么方向发展，说不定到最后连战列舰都会被邀请来参加舞会。

以下是美国人列出的二战期间美国陆军阵亡或死亡的准将以上级军官。
General Gustav J. Braun, Jr. was the assistant division commander of the 34th Division at the time of his death in 1945 in combat in Italy.

Lt. Gen. Simon Bolivar Buckner, Jr., was the commanding general of the 10th Army and was one of the highest ranking American officers killed in action during the war.

Brig. Gen. James Leo Dalton II was the assistant commanding general of the 25th Division in the Philippines. The 25th Division was involved in fighting across the South Pacific but met its strongest resistance in one of its last battles, capturing the Balite Pass at the head of Cagayan Valley at Luzon in 1945.

Brig. Gen. Claudius Miller Easley was the assistant commanding general of the 96th Infantry Division when it was activated in 1942...Easley was wounded by a sniper during the Leyte campaign and was killed on June 19, 1945.

Brig. Gen. Charles L. Keerans, Jr. was the assistant commander of the 101st Airborne Division. His death was one of the oddest to occur during the war. In 1943 the 101st had prepared to make a night combat jump into the area around the Gulf of Gela, on the western coast of Italy. The effort was plagued with problems, including several American transport planes being shot down by friendly fire. Keerans’ plane was one of those hit by friendly fire, but the pilot was able to crash land the plane in the water, 400 yards off shore. Keerans survived the crash and the next morning chatted with a sergeant from another unit and asked the sergeant to accompany him inland. The sergeant said that he wanted to return to his outfit and left. Keerans went inland by himself and was never seen again. For several years the army assumed he had been killed during the ditching of the aircraft, but the sergeant’s story provided a different interpretation and the general was simply listed as killed in action, although his body was never found.

Maj. Gen. Edwin Davies Patrick was the commanding general of the 6th Division, heavily engaged with the enemy ...when he died of wounds he received in battle in 1944. Patrick was given command of the 6th Division in September 1944, and was in hostile action near Bayanbayannan, Luzon, at the time of his death.

Maj. Gen. Maurice Rose was commander of the 3rd Armored Division when he was killed in March 1945...

Brig. Gen. James Edward Wharton replaced General Lloyd Brown as commander of the 28th Infantry Division in August 1944. A few hours later he was killed while visiting one of his regiments on the front line.

Brig. Gen. Don F. Pratt was the assistant division commander of the 101st Airborne Division and was in the first wave of glider landings in France, which began at 3 am on D-Day. His glider took a lot of enemy fire as it approached the field surrounded by hedgerows that was his designated landing area. When the glider landed, cargo broke loose from its moorings, broke through the bulkhead, and crushed Pratt, who was sitting in the cockpit.

Brig. Gen. Guy O. Fort commanded the 81st Division in the Philippines at the time of the massive Japanese invasion of Luzon. Nothing more is known of Fort’s death, only that he was captured, tortured, and executed by the Japanese in 1942.

Brig. Gen. Vicente Lim was a native Filipino, with a military education that included officer training at Fort Benning Infantry School. One of his classmates at Fort Benning was Akira Nara, who as a Japanese general was in combat with Lim’s 41st Division on Bataan.Lim was taken captive at Bataan and survived the infamous death march. He was freed by the Japanese, as they were attempting to separate or alienate Filipinos from the United States. Once freed, Lim became a member of the resistance. He was captured again in the vicinity of Manila and taken to Fort Santiago. After being tortured, he was executed by the Japanese.

Lt. Gen. Frank M. Andrews was a pioneer in the field of military aviation...In 1942, he became the commander of all U.S. forces in the Middle East, and in February 1943, he was given supreme command of all U.S. forces in the European Theater of Operations (ETO). Unfortunately, three months after this assignment he was killed in the crash of a B-24 Liberator bomber while attempting a landing in Iceland.Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland, on the southeast outskirts of Washington, D.C., is named in his honor.

Brig. Gen. Charles Henry Barth, Jr., was the chief of staff for General Andrews’ European theater command and was on the same flight that crashed in Iceland, killing General Andrews and 13 others.

Maj. Gen. Hugh J. Gaffey...Gaffey commanded the 4th Armored Division during the relief operation at Bastogne. Following this successful operation, he was given command of VII Corps. He was killed in a plane crash shortly after the capitulation of Germany in 1945.

Brig. Gen. Stuart Chapin Godfrey was commander of Geiger [Air] Field near Spokane, Wash. Godfrey had directed construction of airfields in the China-Burma-India theatre for use by B-29 Superfortress bombers on raids against Japan prior to assuming command at Geiger Field. He was returning from a conference at Fort Hamilton in San Francisco in 1945 when his plane crashed into a small hill six miles from Geiger Field.

Major Gen. Stonewall Jackson was commander of the 84th Infantry Division at the time of his death in 1943. Jackson had only been in command a few months, assuming command of the division in February 1943, and he was promoted to major general in March. The division was on maneuvers at Fort (then Camp) Polk, La.

Lt. Gen. Leslie McNair was one of the highest ranking American officers killed in World War II. McNair had been commander of Army ground forces and was responsible for training of all components of the active Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard. He wanted a field command but never received one. As frequently as he could, he visited the fronts and was wounded in Tunisia. He was made commander of the mythical 1st Army Group, replacing General Patton McNair was observing the 30th Infantry Division’s preparations for deployment to St. Lo in 1944 when the Army Air Corps accidentally dropped bombs on his position and he was killed. He was posthumously promoted to full general in 1945.Ironically, his son, Colonel Douglas McNair, chief of staff of the 77th Division, was killed two weeks later by a sniper on Guam.

Maj. Gen. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr., was the only American general to go ashore in the first wave on D-Day...On July 12, 1944, Roosevelt was given command of the 90th Division. He died later that night of a heart attack, at the age of 57.



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以下是美国人列出的二战期间美国陆军阵亡或死亡的准将以上级军官。
General Gustav J. Braun, Jr. was the assistant division commander of the 34th Division at the time of his death in 1945 in combat in Italy.

Lt. Gen. Simon Bolivar Buckner, Jr., was the commanding general of the 10th Army and was one of the highest ranking American officers killed in action during the war.

Brig. Gen. James Leo Dalton II was the assistant commanding general of the 25th Division in the Philippines. The 25th Division was involved in fighting across the South Pacific but met its strongest resistance in one of its last battles, capturing the Balite Pass at the head of Cagayan Valley at Luzon in 1945.

Brig. Gen. Claudius Miller Easley was the assistant commanding general of the 96th Infantry Division when it was activated in 1942...Easley was wounded by a sniper during the Leyte campaign and was killed on June 19, 1945.

Brig. Gen. Charles L. Keerans, Jr. was the assistant commander of the 101st Airborne Division. His death was one of the oddest to occur during the war. In 1943 the 101st had prepared to make a night combat jump into the area around the Gulf of Gela, on the western coast of Italy. The effort was plagued with problems, including several American transport planes being shot down by friendly fire. Keerans’ plane was one of those hit by friendly fire, but the pilot was able to crash land the plane in the water, 400 yards off shore. Keerans survived the crash and the next morning chatted with a sergeant from another unit and asked the sergeant to accompany him inland. The sergeant said that he wanted to return to his outfit and left. Keerans went inland by himself and was never seen again. For several years the army assumed he had been killed during the ditching of the aircraft, but the sergeant’s story provided a different interpretation and the general was simply listed as killed in action, although his body was never found.

Maj. Gen. Edwin Davies Patrick was the commanding general of the 6th Division, heavily engaged with the enemy ...when he died of wounds he received in battle in 1944. Patrick was given command of the 6th Division in September 1944, and was in hostile action near Bayanbayannan, Luzon, at the time of his death.

Maj. Gen. Maurice Rose was commander of the 3rd Armored Division when he was killed in March 1945...

Brig. Gen. James Edward Wharton replaced General Lloyd Brown as commander of the 28th Infantry Division in August 1944. A few hours later he was killed while visiting one of his regiments on the front line.

Brig. Gen. Don F. Pratt was the assistant division commander of the 101st Airborne Division and was in the first wave of glider landings in France, which began at 3 am on D-Day. His glider took a lot of enemy fire as it approached the field surrounded by hedgerows that was his designated landing area. When the glider landed, cargo broke loose from its moorings, broke through the bulkhead, and crushed Pratt, who was sitting in the cockpit.

Brig. Gen. Guy O. Fort commanded the 81st Division in the Philippines at the time of the massive Japanese invasion of Luzon. Nothing more is known of Fort’s death, only that he was captured, tortured, and executed by the Japanese in 1942.

Brig. Gen. Vicente Lim was a native Filipino, with a military education that included officer training at Fort Benning Infantry School. One of his classmates at Fort Benning was Akira Nara, who as a Japanese general was in combat with Lim’s 41st Division on Bataan.Lim was taken captive at Bataan and survived the infamous death march. He was freed by the Japanese, as they were attempting to separate or alienate Filipinos from the United States. Once freed, Lim became a member of the resistance. He was captured again in the vicinity of Manila and taken to Fort Santiago. After being tortured, he was executed by the Japanese.

Lt. Gen. Frank M. Andrews was a pioneer in the field of military aviation...In 1942, he became the commander of all U.S. forces in the Middle East, and in February 1943, he was given supreme command of all U.S. forces in the European Theater of Operations (ETO). Unfortunately, three months after this assignment he was killed in the crash of a B-24 Liberator bomber while attempting a landing in Iceland.Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland, on the southeast outskirts of Washington, D.C., is named in his honor.

Brig. Gen. Charles Henry Barth, Jr., was the chief of staff for General Andrews’ European theater command and was on the same flight that crashed in Iceland, killing General Andrews and 13 others.

Maj. Gen. Hugh J. Gaffey...Gaffey commanded the 4th Armored Division during the relief operation at Bastogne. Following this successful operation, he was given command of VII Corps. He was killed in a plane crash shortly after the capitulation of Germany in 1945.

Brig. Gen. Stuart Chapin Godfrey was commander of Geiger [Air] Field near Spokane, Wash. Godfrey had directed construction of airfields in the China-Burma-India theatre for use by B-29 Superfortress bombers on raids against Japan prior to assuming command at Geiger Field. He was returning from a conference at Fort Hamilton in San Francisco in 1945 when his plane crashed into a small hill six miles from Geiger Field.

Major Gen. Stonewall Jackson was commander of the 84th Infantry Division at the time of his death in 1943. Jackson had only been in command a few months, assuming command of the division in February 1943, and he was promoted to major general in March. The division was on maneuvers at Fort (then Camp) Polk, La.

Lt. Gen. Leslie McNair was one of the highest ranking American officers killed in World War II. McNair had been commander of Army ground forces and was responsible for training of all components of the active Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard. He wanted a field command but never received one. As frequently as he could, he visited the fronts and was wounded in Tunisia. He was made commander of the mythical 1st Army Group, replacing General Patton McNair was observing the 30th Infantry Division’s preparations for deployment to St. Lo in 1944 when the Army Air Corps accidentally dropped bombs on his position and he was killed. He was posthumously promoted to full general in 1945.Ironically, his son, Colonel Douglas McNair, chief of staff of the 77th Division, was killed two weeks later by a sniper on Guam.

Maj. Gen. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr., was the only American general to go ashore in the first wave on D-Day...On July 12, 1944, Roosevelt was given command of the 90th Division. He died later that night of a heart attack, at the age of 57.



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Fan1 发表于 2012-5-17 15:31
说到友军交火或者误伤，最倒霉应该算是美30师120步兵团，1944年8月7日先后六次被英国皇家空军空袭，最乌龙的 ...
海湾战争是牛牛被MD折腾惨了,狂风被爱国者打掉,装甲车被A10敲掉,这算是报应么

整个大战期间盟军阵亡的最高级军官是英国皇家海军上将Z舰队指挥官汤姆斯。“汤姆”。斯班瑟。维格汉。菲利普斯爵士（Sir Thomas "Tom" Spencer Vaughan Phillips），菲利普斯上将于1941年12月10日随威尔士亲王号一起沉入南中国海。

SSN19 发表于 2012-5-17 15:45
海湾战争是牛牛被MD折腾惨了,狂风被爱国者打掉,装甲车被A10敲掉,这算是报应么
英国人在伊拉克是几天内被误伤，120团是一天内被误伤六次，这算是标标准准的躺着也中枪，而且还不止一次。

是巴尔博元帅

忧郁+犀利的眼神是典型的意大利特产。。。。。。


巴尔博元帅是二战中被误击丧命的最高将领，仔细研究下来，这位元帅被误击具体内容也非常有趣，他并不是被普通的高射炮兵打下来的，凶手是意大利海军的巡洋舰吉尔季奥号。


1940年意大利人即将对盟国宣战。当时为了保卫托布鲁克，它决定派出海军舰艇参战，当然，这种地方凶多吉少，派好的军舰并不值得，于是派出了一条替死鬼--老掉牙的装甲巡洋舰吉尔季奥号，老到什么地步呢？这条军舰服役的时候飞机还没出世呢。


为了让她顺利的到达托布鲁克，意大利人不得不把它的副炮和部分主炮拆掉了，总算勉强熬到了。可是那个时代的军舰根本没有水平装甲，没想到过对付空中目标，怎么办呢？意大利人聪明极了，他们在军舰上堆放了大量的沙袋，说起来，这就是一座水上工事罢了。


糟糕就糟糕在这位舰长是个责任心很强的家伙，他认为应该装上高射炮，防止盟军空袭。经过反复的扯皮，1940年5月，这些火炮总算安装上来了。结果，1940年6月28日，他们就把巴尔博元帅打了下来。。。和巴尔博元帅一起遇难的还有弗罗利欧伯爵，具有讽刺意味的是伯爵生前并不有名，死后却名声不小，因为后来艾森豪威尔到意大利，就住在弗罗利欧伯爵的别墅--和他的未亡人弗罗利欧伯爵夫人一起！


意大利人开始说元帅是被英国人打下来的，投降以后又说他是被墨索里尼谋杀的，因为巴尔博反对立即对盟国开战。真实的情况呢？


让我们来看看吉尔季奥号上水兵柯拉迪奥。马佐拉的回忆：


“我们当时接到什么命令？什么命令也没有，当时舰上一个军官也没有，我那时候二十岁，我那时候就是一个让战争吓坏了的毛孩子。英国的布雷斯托尔式轰炸机从开战就天天来轰炸。那次轰炸刚结束十五分钟，我们看见两架飞机从敌机刚才扑来的方向飞过来，他们飞的挺低，也没有识别标志，于是我们就开火了。我下令我们的20毫米布雷达高炮用爆破弹和穿甲弹来了个迎头射。炮弹一出膛我就觉得肯定有了，果然一架飞机当即拖出了黑烟。也就是这个时候，我才发现它是我们自己的S。79。哦，已经干了就没办法后悔了，它飞越过我们，然后就在附近撞到了地上，着火了。等我们把尸体拖出来，才发现我们打下来的，竟然是巴尔博元帅！这确实是一个误会，哎，谋杀？那是胡说八道，真要是谋杀也未必有那么准。”


巴尔博随员马康迪的回忆：

“我们在第一架飞机上，见势不妙赶紧下降，落在了海里，巴尔博就没这么幸运了，我们看见他的飞机直奔地面，象颗陨石一样栽下去了，而且当时就起火了，我可以肯定是我们的高射炮干的，后来吉尔季奥号说不算同时停在海面上潜水艇的射击，他们一共打了280发炮弹。”


具有讽刺意味的是巴尔博元帅是意大利空军将领，优秀的飞行员，曾经带领一个中队的意大利S。79飞机横渡大西洋到旧金山。为此他获得德国空军授予的崇高荣誉---金制飞行员-观察员双重资格徽章，这个勋章的得主只有邓尼茨，佛朗哥等少数人物。他是当航空部长后升任空军元帅的。但在飞机往下栽的时候，这些显然对这位元帅都毫无帮助--驾驶杆不在他的手里。


巴尔博元帅S。79座机残骸。这种双体的飞机可以水上起降，巴尔博对这种飞机非常熟悉。


吉尔季奥号在盟军逼近托布鲁克的时候自沉。


战后，意大利人想把它打捞起来建成一座博物馆，结果捞上来往回拖的时候，走到地中海上，一阵惬意的海风过后，它忽然大头朝下，懒洋洋的栽进了海底。--这条船似乎有着一种相当典型的第二次世界大战中的意大利性格。  

lvtom 发表于 2012-5-17 13:36
巴博尔元帅会永远被我们军迷记住。

是巴尔博元帅

忧郁+犀利的眼神是典型的意大利特产。。。。。。


巴尔博元帅是二战中被误击丧命的最高将领，仔细研究下来，这位元帅被误击具体内容也非常有趣，他并不是被普通的高射炮兵打下来的，凶手是意大利海军的巡洋舰吉尔季奥号。


1940年意大利人即将对盟国宣战。当时为了保卫托布鲁克，它决定派出海军舰艇参战，当然，这种地方凶多吉少，派好的军舰并不值得，于是派出了一条替死鬼--老掉牙的装甲巡洋舰吉尔季奥号，老到什么地步呢？这条军舰服役的时候飞机还没出世呢。


为了让她顺利的到达托布鲁克，意大利人不得不把它的副炮和部分主炮拆掉了，总算勉强熬到了。可是那个时代的军舰根本没有水平装甲，没想到过对付空中目标，怎么办呢？意大利人聪明极了，他们在军舰上堆放了大量的沙袋，说起来，这就是一座水上工事罢了。


糟糕就糟糕在这位舰长是个责任心很强的家伙，他认为应该装上高射炮，防止盟军空袭。经过反复的扯皮，1940年5月，这些火炮总算安装上来了。结果，1940年6月28日，他们就把巴尔博元帅打了下来。。。和巴尔博元帅一起遇难的还有弗罗利欧伯爵，具有讽刺意味的是伯爵生前并不有名，死后却名声不小，因为后来艾森豪威尔到意大利，就住在弗罗利欧伯爵的别墅--和他的未亡人弗罗利欧伯爵夫人一起！


意大利人开始说元帅是被英国人打下来的，投降以后又说他是被墨索里尼谋杀的，因为巴尔博反对立即对盟国开战。真实的情况呢？


让我们来看看吉尔季奥号上水兵柯拉迪奥。马佐拉的回忆：


“我们当时接到什么命令？什么命令也没有，当时舰上一个军官也没有，我那时候二十岁，我那时候就是一个让战争吓坏了的毛孩子。英国的布雷斯托尔式轰炸机从开战就天天来轰炸。那次轰炸刚结束十五分钟，我们看见两架飞机从敌机刚才扑来的方向飞过来，他们飞的挺低，也没有识别标志，于是我们就开火了。我下令我们的20毫米布雷达高炮用爆破弹和穿甲弹来了个迎头射。炮弹一出膛我就觉得肯定有了，果然一架飞机当即拖出了黑烟。也就是这个时候，我才发现它是我们自己的S。79。哦，已经干了就没办法后悔了，它飞越过我们，然后就在附近撞到了地上，着火了。等我们把尸体拖出来，才发现我们打下来的，竟然是巴尔博元帅！这确实是一个误会，哎，谋杀？那是胡说八道，真要是谋杀也未必有那么准。”


巴尔博随员马康迪的回忆：

“我们在第一架飞机上，见势不妙赶紧下降，落在了海里，巴尔博就没这么幸运了，我们看见他的飞机直奔地面，象颗陨石一样栽下去了，而且当时就起火了，我可以肯定是我们的高射炮干的，后来吉尔季奥号说不算同时停在海面上潜水艇的射击，他们一共打了280发炮弹。”


具有讽刺意味的是巴尔博元帅是意大利空军将领，优秀的飞行员，曾经带领一个中队的意大利S。79飞机横渡大西洋到旧金山。为此他获得德国空军授予的崇高荣誉---金制飞行员-观察员双重资格徽章，这个勋章的得主只有邓尼茨，佛朗哥等少数人物。他是当航空部长后升任空军元帅的。但在飞机往下栽的时候，这些显然对这位元帅都毫无帮助--驾驶杆不在他的手里。


巴尔博元帅S。79座机残骸。这种双体的飞机可以水上起降，巴尔博对这种飞机非常熟悉。


吉尔季奥号在盟军逼近托布鲁克的时候自沉。


战后，意大利人想把它打捞起来建成一座博物馆，结果捞上来往回拖的时候，走到地中海上，一阵惬意的海风过后，它忽然大头朝下，懒洋洋的栽进了海底。--这条船似乎有着一种相当典型的第二次世界大战中的意大利性格。  

太行山上刘德凯演的国军郝梦龄是什么军衔

chancell 发表于 2012-5-17 16:17
太行山上刘德凯演的国军郝梦龄是什么军衔
中将是也，后追授上将

xpatrickc 发表于 2012-5-17 13:34
日本应该战死的应该是山本五十六海军大将，另外白川义则陆军大将在上海被尹奉吉炸死。对战的时候被片死的， ...
日军的大将应该算是日本的最高军衔了。

哈瓦隆 发表于 2012-5-17 16:03
是巴尔博元帅

忧郁+犀利的眼神是典型的意大利特产。。。。。。
这人，的确象黑帮教父或者某种狠角色；
仅指相貌。

意大利军队近代史上乏善可陈；
搞黑帮倒是声名远播；
真是奇葩！

fdbiology 发表于 2012-5-17 10:57
苏联的瓦图京大将、切尔霍夫斯基大将，均为方面军正职；阿纳尔帕先科达大将，为方面军副职。
基尔波诺斯上将也是方面军正职

苏军元帅多如牛毛，没有挂过？

fdbiology 发表于 2012-5-17 10:57
苏联的瓦图京大将、切尔霍夫斯基大将，均为方面军正职；阿纳尔帕先科达大将，为方面军副职。
切尔尼亚霍夫斯基大将，基尔波诺斯上将，西南方面军司令员。

xpatrickc 发表于 2012-5-17 13:34
日本应该战死的应该是山本五十六海军大将，另外白川义则陆军大将在上海被尹奉吉炸死。对战的时候被片死的， ...
张自忠是追晋上将吗，之前是中将加上将衔。

chancell 发表于 2012-5-17 16:17
太行山上刘德凯演的国军郝梦龄是什么军衔
中将军长。

bjskyhorse 发表于 2012-5-17 17:49
日军的大将应该算是日本的最高军衔了。
现在的正规翻译应该叫上将。因为日文中是大将，所以就直接翻成大将了。