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据传已经调正位置 展开太阳能帆板了




中新网11月9日电 据俄新网报道,俄罗斯联邦航天局局长称,9日凌晨在哈萨克斯坦境内拜科努尔发射场发射、搭载有中国“萤火一号”火星探测器的“福布斯-土壤”探测器在与运载火箭分离后,目前未能按计划变轨。


  局长普沃金(Vladimir Popovkin)说:“这对我们来说是一个艰难的夜晚。因为(在分离后)我们观测不到这个航天器。”“现在我们查明是探测器的引擎未能启动。”

  “这是一个复杂的轨道,机载电脑未能对引擎发出‘启动’的指令。”

  据此前报道,中国首颗火星探测器“萤火一号”同俄罗斯“福布斯-土壤”探测器于北京时间9日4时16分在位于哈萨克斯坦境内的拜科努尔发射场搭乘俄运载火箭发射升空。

  据俄罗斯联邦航天署发布的消息,将“萤火一号”和“福布斯-土壤”送入太空的是俄罗斯“天顶-2SB”运载火箭。升空后,“福布斯-土壤”探测器上的主发动机将开始工作,并通过3次点火将两个探测器送入环火星轨道,全部飞行过程将历时300天左右。




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俄罗斯的探测器 第一次近地点点火出现严重问题。恐无法挽救。而且据说不仅仅是发动机点火失败的问题 连附带的电子设备信号回传都出问题了。
我国探测器 附着其上。。。。

http://www.interfax.ru/society/news.asp?id=215883

INTERFAX: Russian specialists have only three days to upload the new software before the batteries run out of power...

Popovkin: I won't say that the launch was a failure. It was an abnormal situation - but it has already been worked out.

三天的时间


http://ria.ru/science/20111109/484401134.html
"У нас была тяжелая ночь, мы долго не могли обнаружить космический аппарат, сейчас нашли его координаты. Выяснилось, что двигательная установка не сработала. Не было ни первого, ни второго включения", - сказал Поповкин.

完蛋了
It was a difficult night, we weren't able to see the spacecraft. Now we have its coordinates. It's clear that the MDU didn't work... There weren't neither the first, nor the second engine burns - says Vladimir Popovkin, head of Roscosmos



http://www.russianspaceweb.com/phobos_grunt_launch.html

at 00:05:16 GMT, Ted Molczan, a prominent satellite observer, reported that the spacecraft had not changed its orbit as it was predicted to do at the end of the first planned engine burn, while a separate Russian source reported that no telemetry was coming from Phobos-Grunt. As the first two burns were conducted fully autonomously according to a pre-programmed sequence, there was practically no hope that the further maneuvers could fix the situation if it had developed as reported.


I have just received word from the project that there seems to be a serious problem.

After the planned first burn of the engine, the spacecraft was not found in the predicted orbit. Alternative radar
observations preliminarily show that there are two objects in the orbit with parameters the same as before the planned
engine burn. Observers are requested to attempt to discover the spacecraft in the initial LEO parking orbit.

This is the official pre-launch estimated TLE of the LEO parking orbit:

1 55500U 11000A   11312.95486111 -.00010748  00000-0 -11606-4 0    14
2 55500  51.4279   0.6058 0106375  25.7555 298.8256 15.98414689    33

I imagine that one of the two objects seen on the radar could be the final stage of the booster. Accurate descriptions
and counts of the number of objects seen, as well as position and time would be useful.

Ted Molczan


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据传已经调正位置 展开太阳能帆板了




中新网11月9日电 据俄新网报道,俄罗斯联邦航天局局长称,9日凌晨在哈萨克斯坦境内拜科努尔发射场发射、搭载有中国“萤火一号”火星探测器的“福布斯-土壤”探测器在与运载火箭分离后,目前未能按计划变轨。


  局长普沃金(Vladimir Popovkin)说:“这对我们来说是一个艰难的夜晚。因为(在分离后)我们观测不到这个航天器。”“现在我们查明是探测器的引擎未能启动。”

  “这是一个复杂的轨道,机载电脑未能对引擎发出‘启动’的指令。”

  据此前报道,中国首颗火星探测器“萤火一号”同俄罗斯“福布斯-土壤”探测器于北京时间9日4时16分在位于哈萨克斯坦境内的拜科努尔发射场搭乘俄运载火箭发射升空。

  据俄罗斯联邦航天署发布的消息,将“萤火一号”和“福布斯-土壤”送入太空的是俄罗斯“天顶-2SB”运载火箭。升空后,“福布斯-土壤”探测器上的主发动机将开始工作,并通过3次点火将两个探测器送入环火星轨道,全部飞行过程将历时300天左右。




=========================================================
俄罗斯的探测器 第一次近地点点火出现严重问题。恐无法挽救。而且据说不仅仅是发动机点火失败的问题 连附带的电子设备信号回传都出问题了。
我国探测器 附着其上。。。。

http://www.interfax.ru/society/news.asp?id=215883

INTERFAX: Russian specialists have only three days to upload the new software before the batteries run out of power...

Popovkin: I won't say that the launch was a failure. It was an abnormal situation - but it has already been worked out.

三天的时间


http://ria.ru/science/20111109/484401134.html
"У нас была тяжелая ночь, мы долго не могли обнаружить космический аппарат, сейчас нашли его координаты. Выяснилось, что двигательная установка не сработала. Не было ни первого, ни второго включения", - сказал Поповкин.

完蛋了
It was a difficult night, we weren't able to see the spacecraft. Now we have its coordinates. It's clear that the MDU didn't work... There weren't neither the first, nor the second engine burns - says Vladimir Popovkin, head of Roscosmos



http://www.russianspaceweb.com/phobos_grunt_launch.html

at 00:05:16 GMT, Ted Molczan, a prominent satellite observer, reported that the spacecraft had not changed its orbit as it was predicted to do at the end of the first planned engine burn, while a separate Russian source reported that no telemetry was coming from Phobos-Grunt. As the first two burns were conducted fully autonomously according to a pre-programmed sequence, there was practically no hope that the further maneuvers could fix the situation if it had developed as reported.


I have just received word from the project that there seems to be a serious problem.

After the planned first burn of the engine, the spacecraft was not found in the predicted orbit. Alternative radar
observations preliminarily show that there are two objects in the orbit with parameters the same as before the planned
engine burn. Observers are requested to attempt to discover the spacecraft in the initial LEO parking orbit.

This is the official pre-launch estimated TLE of the LEO parking orbit:

1 55500U 11000A   11312.95486111 -.00010748  00000-0 -11606-4 0    14
2 55500  51.4279   0.6058 0106375  25.7555 298.8256 15.98414689    33

I imagine that one of the two objects seen on the radar could be the final stage of the booster. Accurate descriptions
and counts of the number of objects seen, as well as position and time would be useful.

Ted Molczan


_______________________________________________
Seesat-l mailing list
http://mailman.satobs.org/mailman/listinfo/seesat-l
请大能出来辟谣
是毛子的问题吧
俄国的火箭出了问题?那俄国人那个大卫星不是也不保了?
如果是真的,毛子的火星探测真是个杯具..
找了所有的新闻看,都说是发射成功咧
“附带的电子设备信号回传都出问题”是如何知晓“近地点点火出现严重问题”?
希望不是真的,我兔快放天神下凡,提高护甲魔法免疫
毛子就是不给力!以后看看能不能和欧空局合作
楼主仔细翻航空航天港的帖子,是毛子火箭出现问题了。操蛋的毛子火箭,话说,保险公司会不会赔我们的损失啊?
不是说发射成功了么?
弱弱的问一句,从地球飞几天能天火星
xxg1017 发表于 2011-11-9 09:58
弱弱的问一句,从地球飞几天能天火星
貌似2年多
保险理赔小事情,问题是天朝火星探测已经推迟了三年了,这下又遥遥无期..
xxg1017 发表于 2011-11-9 09:58
弱弱的问一句,从地球飞几天能天火星
最快——半年……~~
xxg1017 发表于 2011-11-9 09:58
弱弱的问一句,从地球飞几天能天火星
md的走了10个月
对于各类意外,肯定有相应合同条款规定...
又是毛子的错?
毛子应该赔钱!
请大能出来辟谣
毛子这瘦死的骆驼快成干尸了
不是有火星500项目么,往返500天
地球防卫基地 发表于 2011-11-9 09:59
保险理赔小事情,问题是天朝火星探测已经推迟了三年了,这下又遥遥无期..
先搞好月球的吧
毛子的火星探测一直就是悲剧

drakan 发表于 2011-11-9 10:02
先搞好月球的吧


一颗一颗搞,再过200年也飞不出太阳系


drakan 发表于 2011-11-9 10:02
先搞好月球的吧


一颗一颗搞,再过200年也飞不出太阳系

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楼主,你的标题不清楚啊!到底那个探测器是毛子的还是兔子的?从你的标题来看,是毛子的。
如果是毛子的,关我们屁事?
不知道是谁的问题,不好下定论吧。
一派胡言。
my65713326 发表于 2011-11-9 09:59
貌似2年多
300天左右
坐等官方消息
难道是谣传?
能不能干脆去月球啊
还是咱们自己打上去吧。。。稳定性比毛子高。。。。毛子伏特加喝多了  
刚10点cctv4没说什么哦,
TB的小卫星怎么样了?不知道发射成功没有?
heaven621 发表于 2011-11-9 10:04
楼主,你的标题不清楚啊!到底那个探测器是毛子的还是兔子的?从你的标题来看,是毛子的。
如果是毛子的, ...
主探测器是俄罗斯的,不过上面搭载了一个中国的小探测器。
在这个阶段,要玩完就一起玩完了。
哎 毛子火箭靠不住啊
楼主,你的标题不清楚啊!到底那个探测器是毛子的还是兔子的?从你的标题来看,是毛子的。  如果是毛子的, ...
那个大的能返回的探测器是俄国的,但是背了我们的一个电视机大小(太阳能电池板未展开)的一个火星探测卫星。
看来还是自己的可靠!!!
事态不够清楚,期待大能。。