土星完成了全新一代舰用8MW燃气轮机的研发测试工作-研发 ...

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google翻译版, 将就着看吧。



E8, 8MW。


寿命: 10万小时,

燃料体系: 两种燃料

点火机制: 117发动机类似的等离子点火系统



PS: 一共研制的有3个型号, E8, E16, E25, 对应8MW, 16MW, 25MW




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"Saturn" has completed work on a new dual-fuel marine GTE 8 MW

10/10/2011

October 10, 2011, Rybinsk. - JSC "NPO" Saturn "has completed work on a state contract for OCD" Developing technologies for the creation of marine gas turbine engine (GTE) with a full resource of up to 100 thousand hours of 8 MW (based on gas turbine engine of the 4th generation, developed for Public Procurement) and gazoturboagregata on the basis of marine (ship) GTE 8 MW. "

Under the contract, OAO "NPO" Saturn "from July 2009 to September 2011 been developing dual-fuel (gas / oil), marine use TBG capacity of 8 MW. The terms of reference were required for the transition from one fuel to another is stopped GTD without additional equipment.

In late 2010 the prototype was put on the first test. During the year, was made a full cycle of tests, including test the CCD with liquid and gaseous fuels, rated thermal performance of the sample, starting characteristics, maneuvering characteristics and temperature state of the basic units for each type of fuel in particular. All the results of experimental tests have confirmed the declared characteristics.

For the first time for marine GTE as the ignition of the combustion chamber used plazmostruynaya ignition system, which provided steady start, as the gas and liquid fuel, and allowed to reduce the range of external piping.

Verification of emissions (NOx) in the newly designed combustion chamber has satisfied the requirements specification, with emissions of harmful substances in diesel fuel is much lower than diesel engines (in accordance with the international convention MARPOL 73/78 diesel engines only in 2017 reached the same rules) .

Conducted testing of local control of CCD, which includes the automation unit of liquid fuel and gas automation unit fuel system. Achieved a high degree of automation control GTE, before starting the operator specifies the type of fuel, the rest of the process from start to stop automated.

All the systems that support the operation of CCD, manufactured counterparts in explosion-proof and marine applications and are certified rosgortehnadzora and marine register.

In the process of acceptance of work has been presented to the customer design documentation and working example. The tests on the agreed program, in the presence of the customer. Simultaneously, GTE has been presented to representatives of Maritime Register, documentation, and sample parent GTE approved maritime register.

According to the Managing Director of JSC "NPO" Saturn "by Ilya Fedorov," Development of dual-fuel marine applications GTD 8 MW is an event for "Saturn", and for the entire Russian engine. We hope to launch a new national development in industrial production. In the course of this work received a huge technological advance for use in the subsequent development of GTD ground. "http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2011/10/10/223008.html

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google翻译版, 将就着看吧。



E8, 8MW。


寿命: 10万小时,

燃料体系: 两种燃料

点火机制: 117发动机类似的等离子点火系统



PS: 一共研制的有3个型号, E8, E16, E25, 对应8MW, 16MW, 25MW




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"Saturn" has completed work on a new dual-fuel marine GTE 8 MW

10/10/2011

October 10, 2011, Rybinsk. - JSC "NPO" Saturn "has completed work on a state contract for OCD" Developing technologies for the creation of marine gas turbine engine (GTE) with a full resource of up to 100 thousand hours of 8 MW (based on gas turbine engine of the 4th generation, developed for Public Procurement) and gazoturboagregata on the basis of marine (ship) GTE 8 MW. "

Under the contract, OAO "NPO" Saturn "from July 2009 to September 2011 been developing dual-fuel (gas / oil), marine use TBG capacity of 8 MW. The terms of reference were required for the transition from one fuel to another is stopped GTD without additional equipment.

In late 2010 the prototype was put on the first test. During the year, was made a full cycle of tests, including test the CCD with liquid and gaseous fuels, rated thermal performance of the sample, starting characteristics, maneuvering characteristics and temperature state of the basic units for each type of fuel in particular. All the results of experimental tests have confirmed the declared characteristics.

For the first time for marine GTE as the ignition of the combustion chamber used plazmostruynaya ignition system, which provided steady start, as the gas and liquid fuel, and allowed to reduce the range of external piping.

Verification of emissions (NOx) in the newly designed combustion chamber has satisfied the requirements specification, with emissions of harmful substances in diesel fuel is much lower than diesel engines (in accordance with the international convention MARPOL 73/78 diesel engines only in 2017 reached the same rules) .

Conducted testing of local control of CCD, which includes the automation unit of liquid fuel and gas automation unit fuel system. Achieved a high degree of automation control GTE, before starting the operator specifies the type of fuel, the rest of the process from start to stop automated.

All the systems that support the operation of CCD, manufactured counterparts in explosion-proof and marine applications and are certified rosgortehnadzora and marine register.

In the process of acceptance of work has been presented to the customer design documentation and working example. The tests on the agreed program, in the presence of the customer. Simultaneously, GTE has been presented to representatives of Maritime Register, documentation, and sample parent GTE approved maritime register.

According to the Managing Director of JSC "NPO" Saturn "by Ilya Fedorov," Development of dual-fuel marine applications GTD 8 MW is an event for "Saturn", and for the entire Russian engine. We hope to launch a new national development in industrial production. In the course of this work received a huge technological advance for use in the subsequent development of GTD ground. "
难道毛子还要造巡洋舰?
这个的适装对象是谁。。。。
未来大区用上?
GE大神 发表于 2011-10-10 22:16
未来大区用上?
功率远远不够啊。。。
在完成E8, E16和E25的研发工作完成后,


M75系列, M90FR也就退休了。
GE大神 发表于 2011-10-10 22:16
未来大区用上?
功率不够, 得需要E25才行。
lxf11711 发表于 2011-10-10 22:15
这个的适装对象是谁。。。。
20385, 新的滨海战斗舰等等。
DPEinC=PE 发表于 2011-10-10 22:28
在完成E8, E16和E25的研发工作完成后,
M90FR算比较新的吧,都要退休了??
lxf11711 发表于 2011-10-10 22:31
M90FR算比较新的吧,都要退休了??
E 25正在搞, 搞定了。  俄海军还要么?  外国客户也会选择E25的吧。
还是中轻型舰艇上用的?
drakan 发表于 2011-10-10 22:49
还是中轻型舰艇上用的?
单台不到11000马力,  用于4000吨以下的军舰。
DPEinC=PE 发表于 2011-10-10 22:53
单台不到11000马力,  用于4000吨以下的军舰。
意味着,老毛子未来几年还是继续造中型以下水面舰艇糊弄?
drakan 发表于 2011-10-10 23:08
意味着,老毛子未来几年还是继续造中型以下水面舰艇糊弄?
乃不知道E16, 16MW和E25, 25MW为何物么?


DPEinC=PE 发表于 2011-10-10 23:11
乃不知道E16, 16MW和E25, 25MW为何物么?
老毛子不是很多年没造过大中型水面舰艇了嘛,光喊口号计划造航母啥的,结果下水的都是轻型舰
drakan 发表于 2011-10-10 23:15
老毛子不是很多年没造过大中型水面舰艇了嘛,光喊口号计划造航母啥的,结果下水的都是轻型舰
正在建造的登陆舰和22350不是中型舰?


全新的大型驱逐舰没有。
功率远远不够啊。。。
我说e25啊。。。。
正在建造的登陆舰和22350不是中型舰?   
11711二号传说铺了却没有消息
单台不到11000马力, 用于4000吨以下的军舰。
11661二号感觉前平台很小,估计感觉没垂发了
GE大神 发表于 2011-10-10 23:30
11661二号感觉前平台很小,估计感觉没垂发了
没垂发, 那前面那么大块地儿放啥子呢?
GE大神 发表于 2011-10-10 23:29
11711二号传说铺了却没有消息
有一段时间没看到相关消息了。
DPEinC=PE 发表于 2011-10-11 07:49
没垂发, 那前面那么大块地儿放啥子呢?

你看看这个地方叫大?
DPEinC=PE 发表于 2011-10-11 07:49
没垂发, 那前面那么大块地儿放啥子呢?

而且自用型前面倒没有栗树-M了。。。
DPEinC=PE 发表于 2011-10-11 07:50
有一段时间没看到相关消息了。

俄第二艘猎豹级护卫舰达吉斯坦(Dagestan)号已于9月25日起在黑海开始海试。
跟我们中国有关吗?
和tg的 70 185 260 对应


相比LM2500+G4接近35MW的输出,E25对超过万吨级的大舰感觉还是偏小

相比LM2500+G4接近35MW的输出,E25对超过万吨级的大舰感觉还是偏小
没有说是舰用的呀, 而且烧气和烧油这个双燃料对军舰一点意义都没有, 是不是工业燃气轮机?

i6y6 发表于 2011-10-11 09:00
没有说是舰用的呀, 而且烧气和烧油这个双燃料对军舰一点意义都没有, 是不是工业燃气轮机?


军民两用的。


Developing technologies for the creation of marine gas turbine engine (GTE)
i6y6 发表于 2011-10-11 09:00
没有说是舰用的呀, 而且烧气和烧油这个双燃料对军舰一点意义都没有, 是不是工业燃气轮机?


军民两用的。


Developing technologies for the creation of marine gas turbine engine (GTE)


说说新大驱吧,  据说是用来替代现在的驱逐舰, 反舰舰以及1164导弹巡洋舰的。  全部统一。


动力系统主要看预算, 有可能核动力也有可能燃气轮机, E25的干活。



PS: 很有可能 联盟的海版上舰。 双管152mm舰炮。

说说新大驱吧,  据说是用来替代现在的驱逐舰, 反舰舰以及1164导弹巡洋舰的。  全部统一。


动力系统主要看预算, 有可能核动力也有可能燃气轮机, E25的干活。



PS: 很有可能 联盟的海版上舰。 双管152mm舰炮。
lxf11711 发表于 2011-10-10 22:21
功率远远不够啊。。。
巡航发动机而已
DPEinC=PE 发表于 2011-10-11 10:16
说说新大驱吧,  据说是用来替代现在的驱逐舰, 反舰舰以及1164导弹巡洋舰的。  全部统一。
乃火星很久了。。。。
涡轮 发表于 2011-10-11 10:31
巡航发动机而已
不懂。。。。什么意思?
lxf11711 发表于 2011-10-11 10:33
不懂。。。。什么意思?
作为巡航动力的发动机,参考1164
lxf11711 发表于 2011-10-11 08:19
而且自用型前面倒没有栗树-M了。。。
老毛子特色的摆地摊,虽然地摊规模和光荣那种超市比起来小得多
drakan 发表于 2011-10-11 10:50
老毛子特色的摆地摊,虽然地摊规模和光荣那种超市比起来小得多
可能用着猴子的钱不心疼吧。。。
已经完成了所谓全新一代燃气轮机的研发工作,毛子前不久为何还要提出重新改装那几艘老旧的基洛夫级?要知道那可不便宜,按照官方的改装计划来盘算,甚至比造新舰还贵。既然新动力都搞定了,还费这事干毛??脑袋让驴给踢了??
DPEinC=PE 发表于 2011-10-10 23:18
正在建造的登陆舰和22350不是中型舰?
22350也算可以了,起码有4000-5000吨位
lxf11711 发表于 2011-10-11 08:17
你看看这个地方叫大?
海试图看感觉不知道放什么
GE大神 发表于 2011-10-11 11:55
海试图看感觉不知道放什么
对,近防也不够啊