关于EF2000大胜F-22的详细资料

关于英国皇家空军EF2000对抗演习大胜美国F-22的消息来源：

首先是国际空军力量2006年第20期，第45页(ISNB: 1-880588-91-9)的描述：



简要翻译：两架英国RAF（皇家空军）的EF2000在美国和F-22进行空中对抗演习。

EF2000在演习中表现超乎预期，毫无疑问，采用鸭式布局的EF2000在狗斗中毫无悬念地压倒F-22。最令人惊叹的是，EF2000还曾经在视距外锁定了F-22一次。

美军辩解，被击败的F-22是没有采取完全隐形措施的F-22，但不管美军如何辩解，美军还是单方面取消了原定次日举行的EF2000和F-22的对抗演习。

在一个皇家空军飞行员常去的网站上提到了此事，但此后不久，一位皇家空军的高官，处于安全考虑，要求飞行员们禁止继续公开讨论此事。

同年，2006年8月，英国BBC也简介报道了这次对抗演习：



（F-22）是非常隐身的飞机，但造价两倍于EF2000，而且报告显示，皇家空军的飞行员在和F-22的最近的对抗演习中取得巨大成功。

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1818077.stm





Source:  http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=147877 - Friday 10 June 2005
更多细节表明：
这次对抗代号High Rider 10，英国方面是皇家空军的一个EF2000评估部队的飞行员，还有英国BAE公司自己试飞团队的试飞员

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2007/09/12/2932307.htm



更多关于这次对抗的细节：

参加中国湖对抗的是英国皇家空军的第17中队，再次确认一共有2架EF2000和30人。

美国方面确认F-22参加，英国方面的飞行员对美国F-22评价是，除了隐形，其他性能均小于等于EF2000.

同时，世界著名的空军月刊2007年1月期确认了另外一次对抗：
Air Forces Monthly - January 2007
http://www.airforcesmonthly.com/



空军月刊提到，在2005年EF2000和F-22的对抗演习中，F-22的隐形使EF2000的雷达在视距外无法看到F-22，但EF2000的电子设备能探测到F-22的雷达，EF2000的高机动性也能轻而易举地摆脱F-22的锁定。

但一旦到近距离格斗，F-22就根本无法对付EF2000，EF2000的高机动性使它在格斗上大占上风。

最后文章总结，美国的F-22为了隐形牺牲了太多其他飞行性能。。。


最后，最最搞笑的是，在欧洲人论坛上讨论这次EF2000大胜F-22的演习时，多位美国洛马公司职员还是假冒BAE公司职员在论坛搅混水，最后被欧洲那边的管理员查出IP，给封了。。。

http://eucitizens.eu/Forum/index.php?topic=166.0

中国湖对抗的EF2000和F-22


在中国湖的EF2000


关于英国皇家空军EF2000对抗演习大胜美国F-22的消息来源：

首先是国际空军力量2006年第20期，第45页(ISNB: 1-880588-91-9)的描述：

"more recently, there have been repeated reports that two RAF Typhoons deployed to the USA for OEU trails work have been flying against the F-22 at NAS China Lake, and have peformed better than was expected. There was little suprise that Typhoon, with its world-class agility and high off-boresight missile capability was able to dominate "Within Visual Range" flight, but the aircraft did cause a suprise by getting a radar lock on the F22 at a suprisingly long range. The F-22s cried off, claiming that they were "unstealthed" anyway, although the next day´s scheduled two vs. two BWR engagement was canceled, and "the USAF decided they didn´t want to play any more .

- When this incident was reported on a website frequented by front-line RAF aircrew a senior RAF officer urged an end to the converstaion on security grounds"

简要翻译：两架英国RAF（皇家空军）的EF2000在美国和F-22进行空中对抗演习。

EF2000在演习中表现超乎预期，毫无疑问，采用鸭式布局的EF2000在狗斗中毫无悬念地压倒F-22。最令人惊叹的是，EF2000还曾经在视距外锁定了F-22一次。

美军辩解，被击败的F-22是没有采取完全隐形措施的F-22，但不管美军如何辩解，美军还是单方面取消了原定次日举行的EF2000和F-22的对抗演习。

在一个皇家空军飞行员常去的网站上提到了此事，但此后不久，一位皇家空军的高官，处于安全考虑，要求飞行员们禁止继续公开讨论此事。

同年，2006年8月，英国BBC也简介报道了这次对抗演习：

This is very stealthy but costs twice the price of the Eurofighter, and reports suggest that RAF's Eurofighters have flown highly successful missions against the F-22 during recent exercises in the US.

（F-22）是非常隐身的飞机，但造价两倍于EF2000，而且报告显示，皇家空军的飞行员在和F-22的最近的对抗演习中取得巨大成功。

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1818077.stm

The Weapon System was evaluated thoroughly with seven 2v2 (i.e. two Eurofighter Typhoons against two 'enemies') Sensor Fusion flights, one 2v4 (against four enemies) Sensor Fusion flight and five dedicated DASS flights designed to fully test the avionics. The overall performance was encouraging considering the fairly aggressive operational testing conducted during the Mission Assessment, with the feedback from the operational pilots confirming their favourable impressions of the product.

In early 2005, Eurofighter Typhoon made its first transatlantic deployment. Under the 'Exercise High Rider' nickname, the Air Warfare Centre (AWC) conducts routine trials work on the United States western ranges, taking advantage of significant overland airspace, good weather and instrumented range infrastructure to maximise operational test and evaluation output from these facilities.

Exercise High Rider 10 took place at the United States Naval Air Weapons Range China Lake in California. Taking part in the deployment were the Harrier GR7 and Tornado GR4 aircraft of the AWC's Fast Jet and Weapons Operational Evaluation Unit (FJWOEU) based at RAF Coningsby and a Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft from the Typhoon combined test team.

The aircraft was deployed from BAE Systems Warton, crewed by a BAE Systems test pilot and a Typhoon Operational Evaluation Unit 17(R) Squadron pilot. BT005, a twin-seat series production aircraft, made the transatlantic crossing with the help of RAF VC10 and Tristar refuelling assets, before conducting an unaccompanied transit across the USA from Bangor Maine to China Lake, stopping to refuel at Little Rock Arkansas and Cannon Air Force Base, New Mexico. The Eurofighter Typhoon began flying again immediately after its arrival undertaking trials work to evaluate the aircraft's weapon system in an operational environment.

Exercise High Rider 10 recovered to the UK at the end of the deployment.

Source:  http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=147877 - Friday 10 June 2005
更多细节表明：
这次对抗代号High Rider 10，英国方面是皇家空军的一个EF2000评估部队的飞行员，还有英国BAE公司自己试飞团队的试飞员

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2007/09/12/2932307.htm

US deployment: The RAF's 17 Sqn OEU has routinely deployed two aircraft and around 30 personnel to the USA to operate alongside US fighters including the Lockheed MartinF-22A Raptor. "The vast majority of this work is about making sure that the integration of the two platforms is working," says Walker. Asked how the fighters compare, he says: "If you want to say that stealth is a determining factor then Typhoon stands second to the F-22. But I think that as we do more work, the Typhoon will more than hold its own. It's the balance of how you use it, rather than what it is."BAE Typhoon project test pilot Mark Bowman sees even less of a capability gap. "The F-22 is three times the cost, but you would struggle to see any advantage in the cockpit design - the cost is there to maintain stealth," he says. "Typhoon is most likely equivalent, if not better. Upcoming commitments for the UK Typhoon force include involvement in a UK combined qualified weapons instructor course and possible participation in a Red Flag exercise in the USA. "We want to integrate with a multinational package and are always looking for a way to challenge the aircraft and the pilots," says Atha

更多关于这次对抗的细节：

参加中国湖对抗的是英国皇家空军的第17中队，再次确认一共有2架EF2000和30人。

美国方面确认F-22参加，英国方面的飞行员对美国F-22评价是，除了隐形，其他性能均小于等于EF2000.

同时，世界著名的空军月刊2007年1月期确认了另外一次对抗：
Air Forces Monthly - January 2007
http://www.airforcesmonthly.com/

The MoD said it would not be putting Typhoons up against the Indian Airforce Su-30s as a one on one fight. However, it did happen and there is HUD video to prove it. Apparently two inexperienced Typhoon pilots returned with big grins on their faces, the Su-30s were toasted, all the Su-30's air display antics amounted to nothing, the Typhoons proved too nimble and too powerful for the Russian aircraft. The Typhoons were also not clean configured.
During the Typhoon's visit to the US in 2005 it was pitted againt the F-22, this was not officially confirmed. The Typhoon could not see the F-22 but could detect that it was being painted by the F-22 and took "appropriate" measures with defensive aids. In one on one combat the Typhoon did the same job as on the Su-30, the F-22 could not handle the Typhoons close in and were shocked. It did not go all the Typhoon's way but the Americans had a sobering encounter, with the F-22 sacrificing much for stealth

空军月刊提到，在2005年EF2000和F-22的对抗演习中，F-22的隐形使EF2000的雷达在视距外无法看到F-22，但EF2000的电子设备能探测到F-22的雷达，EF2000的高机动性也能轻而易举地摆脱F-22的锁定。

但一旦到近距离格斗，F-22就根本无法对付EF2000，EF2000的高机动性使它在格斗上大占上风。

最后文章总结，美国的F-22为了隐形牺牲了太多其他飞行性能。。。


最后，最最搞笑的是，在欧洲人论坛上讨论这次EF2000大胜F-22的演习时，多位美国洛马公司职员还是假冒BAE公司职员在论坛搅混水，最后被欧洲那边的管理员查出IP，给封了。。。

http://eucitizens.eu/Forum/index.php?topic=166.0

中国湖对抗的EF2000和F-22


在中国湖的EF2000