韩国T-50出口印尼条件:韩国需要从印尼引入更多CN-235海 ...

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Indonesia Seeks Offset Barter Over T-50 Jet Buy

SEOUL - Indonesia wants South Korea to buy four more of its locally built CN-235 maritime patrol aircraft in an offset barter deal over Indonesia's purchase of 16 T-50 trainer jets, according to government and industry sources here.

On April 12, the Seoul government announced that it won exclusive rights to negotiate the sale of the T-50 Golden Eagle, co-developed by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) and Lockheed Martin of the United States, to Indonesia. The T-50 had competed with Russia's Yak-130 and the Czech-built L-159B.

Jakarta notified Seoul of a plan to "treat KAI as the de facto preferred bidder" for its advanced trainer acquisition contest, according to a spokesperson for South Korea's presidential office Blue House.

"Both governments agreed in principle to sign a memorandum of understanding on the sale of the T-50 within the next nine months," he said.

In a news conference at the Ministry of National Defense, KAI Chief Executive Officer Kim Hong-kyung said the T-50 would be sold "much cheaper" than its original price tag of $20 million to $25 million.

"We asked our suppliers to lower the costs of manufacturing T-50 spare parts, and based on those efforts, we offered a per-unit price far lower than standard price," Kim said. He hinted that the total value of the trainer deal would be lower than the estimated $400 million, which is based on a per-unit price tag of $25 million.

"The final value of the trainer deal could be decided after negotiations," said Kim, expressing hope to conclude a final agreement within two months.

"Through negotiations, both sides will discuss a wide range of issues, such as the price, delivery timing, ground-based training equipment and systems, integrated logistics support and replacement parts," Kim noted.

Once a final contract is signed, the first delivery of T-50s will be made in 2013, he added.

The T-50 was defeated in competitions in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Singapore, where both countries selected Italy's M-346 trainer.

The single-engine T-50 features digital flight controls and a modern, ground-based training system. It is designed to have the maneuverability, endurance and systems to prepare pilots to fly next-generation fighters, such as the Eurofighter Typhoon, the F-22 Raptor, the Rafale and the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The jet has a top speed of Mach 1.4 and an operational range of 1,851 kilometers.

Other potential customers include the United States, Israel, Greece and Poland.

According to industry sources, Jakarta requested that Seoul purchase four CN-235 aircraft built by PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PT DI) in return for buying T-50s. The per-unit price of the CN-235 is known to be around $25 million. Seoul purchased four of the aircraft in 2008.

Indonesia also asked South Korea to write off $10 million in penalties over the former's delayed delivery of CN-235 planes under the 2008 deal that was worth $100 million. The first batch of two of the four planes had been scheduled to be delivered to the Korea Coast Guard in December and the remainder in April.

PT DI sent a document to the Coast Guard recently, saying delivery would be delayed for production problems, Coast Guard spokesman Koh Jae-young said.

In addition, Indonesia demands South Korea pay for the costs of integrated logistics support, according to sources.

"Indonesia is expected to offer to locally produce some of the 16 T-50s to be ordered, should a contract be signed," a source said. "How many aircraft Indonesia wants to produce locally could be a contentious issue during negotiations."

Seoul and Jakarta had a similar barter trade deal in 2001 when South Korea bought eight CN-235 transport planes in return for selling 12 KT-1 Woongbi basic trainers.

The CN-235 is a medium-range twin-turboprop airplane, jointly developed by Spain's CASA and PT DI, formerly known as IPTN. The plane is used for VIP transport, maritime patrols, airlifts and troop carrying.

South Korea has 20 CN-235s, 12 built in Spain and eight in Indonesia.

In a summit last December, President Lee Myung-bak and his Indonesian counterpart, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, agreed to jointly manufacture tanks, submarines and fighter jets.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6227097

Indonesia Seeks Offset Barter Over T-50 Jet Buy

SEOUL - Indonesia wants South Korea to buy four more of its locally built CN-235 maritime patrol aircraft in an offset barter deal over Indonesia's purchase of 16 T-50 trainer jets, according to government and industry sources here.

On April 12, the Seoul government announced that it won exclusive rights to negotiate the sale of the T-50 Golden Eagle, co-developed by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) and Lockheed Martin of the United States, to Indonesia. The T-50 had competed with Russia's Yak-130 and the Czech-built L-159B.

Jakarta notified Seoul of a plan to "treat KAI as the de facto preferred bidder" for its advanced trainer acquisition contest, according to a spokesperson for South Korea's presidential office Blue House.

"Both governments agreed in principle to sign a memorandum of understanding on the sale of the T-50 within the next nine months," he said.

In a news conference at the Ministry of National Defense, KAI Chief Executive Officer Kim Hong-kyung said the T-50 would be sold "much cheaper" than its original price tag of $20 million to $25 million.

"We asked our suppliers to lower the costs of manufacturing T-50 spare parts, and based on those efforts, we offered a per-unit price far lower than standard price," Kim said. He hinted that the total value of the trainer deal would be lower than the estimated $400 million, which is based on a per-unit price tag of $25 million.

"The final value of the trainer deal could be decided after negotiations," said Kim, expressing hope to conclude a final agreement within two months.

"Through negotiations, both sides will discuss a wide range of issues, such as the price, delivery timing, ground-based training equipment and systems, integrated logistics support and replacement parts," Kim noted.

Once a final contract is signed, the first delivery of T-50s will be made in 2013, he added.

The T-50 was defeated in competitions in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Singapore, where both countries selected Italy's M-346 trainer.

The single-engine T-50 features digital flight controls and a modern, ground-based training system. It is designed to have the maneuverability, endurance and systems to prepare pilots to fly next-generation fighters, such as the Eurofighter Typhoon, the F-22 Raptor, the Rafale and the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The jet has a top speed of Mach 1.4 and an operational range of 1,851 kilometers.

Other potential customers include the United States, Israel, Greece and Poland.

According to industry sources, Jakarta requested that Seoul purchase four CN-235 aircraft built by PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PT DI) in return for buying T-50s. The per-unit price of the CN-235 is known to be around $25 million. Seoul purchased four of the aircraft in 2008.

Indonesia also asked South Korea to write off $10 million in penalties over the former's delayed delivery of CN-235 planes under the 2008 deal that was worth $100 million. The first batch of two of the four planes had been scheduled to be delivered to the Korea Coast Guard in December and the remainder in April.

PT DI sent a document to the Coast Guard recently, saying delivery would be delayed for production problems, Coast Guard spokesman Koh Jae-young said.

In addition, Indonesia demands South Korea pay for the costs of integrated logistics support, according to sources.

"Indonesia is expected to offer to locally produce some of the 16 T-50s to be ordered, should a contract be signed," a source said. "How many aircraft Indonesia wants to produce locally could be a contentious issue during negotiations."

Seoul and Jakarta had a similar barter trade deal in 2001 when South Korea bought eight CN-235 transport planes in return for selling 12 KT-1 Woongbi basic trainers.

The CN-235 is a medium-range twin-turboprop airplane, jointly developed by Spain's CASA and PT DI, formerly known as IPTN. The plane is used for VIP transport, maritime patrols, airlifts and troop carrying.

South Korea has 20 CN-235s, 12 built in Spain and eight in Indonesia.

In a summit last December, President Lee Myung-bak and his Indonesian counterpart, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, agreed to jointly manufacture tanks, submarines and fighter jets.
易货贸易啊,怎么不是西米


不用全篇翻译了,基本意思都在下面:
T50最后单价2500万刀,一架CN也是2500万刀,倒也对等,卖16架T50,已买了8架印尼CN,再加印尼希望韩作为对等条件新买4架,及要求抹掉印尼CN拖交货期的1000万刀罚款,等于这个单子T50可能总的净卖不到4架。
这样说来,我是印尼我也会买T50,互为客户呀,没办法!
不过,T50 也是超音速呀?最大1.4马赫?

不用全篇翻译了,基本意思都在下面:
T50最后单价2500万刀,一架CN也是2500万刀,倒也对等,卖16架T50,已买了8架印尼CN,再加印尼希望韩作为对等条件新买4架,及要求抹掉印尼CN拖交货期的1000万刀罚款,等于这个单子T50可能总的净卖不到4架。
这样说来,我是印尼我也会买T50,互为客户呀,没办法!
不过,T50 也是超音速呀?最大1.4马赫?
呵呵,棒子打断牙也会往肚子里咽的,钱可以亏,但是宇宙第一民族的面子可不能折。。。
神马?宇宙第一大国居然要从印尼这种三四流的小国进口武器?
棒子高呼一声:想我宇宙第一民族怎么从你等卑微蝼蚁处买破烂,面子何在!脸皮何在!!!!!!这飞机你今天买也得买不买也得买,不买你全国都我先祖的孙子,我恶心死你。。。。。。。。
印尼悲呼一声:我不敢了,一架多少钱,要买都少架都您说了算,求您放过我,我以后还要吃饭啊!!!!!!!!!
八成是棒子亏了、、、、
出个口还真是不容易,还要被敲
就为了使双方工人有活干
宇宙国霸气呀
棒子的T-50难道是硬通货,那都可以用
易货贸易?
相当喜剧话啊
创造n多GDP~~~~~~~~~~
我想起了两个经济学博士吃了两泡屎,创造2亿GDP的故事
卖烧饼的一块钱买卖茶叶蛋的蛋吃,卖茶叶蛋的一块钱买烧饼吃,你买我的我买你的。
两个人最后把要卖的东西都吃完,就赚了这一块钱的故事
互相都有面子了
玉米棒子
谁叫你棒子找间谍去偷看底价了,还愚蠢到被发现。那就为两国的军事贸易做点贡献吧。
印尼猴子家里有不少好货,连湾湾都买他二手鱼雷…
WW引进的那不是鱼雷,是飞雷,一扔就飞的没影的雷
哈哈,还有这么一出啊。
真是一个悲剧,还有,楼主能不能翻译一下,看着累眼睛
原来是这样啊:D
韩国人单子还没谈下来,关注后续发展
houshanghai 发表于 2011-4-23 08:38


    打牙往肚里咽
不过还是万里长征第一步吧,以后可出口韩嘿撕
回复 12# 怪味可乐


    你这头像也太河蟹了
还是出口少女时代吧
棒子够搞笑
yc68909 发表于 2011-4-24 13:18


    呵呵,你真不懂“艺术”啊!这个可是下届诺贝尔和平奖的有力争夺者的“艺术”照啊。话说我怎么自己看到的依然是原来的头像?
棒子真是混蛋。成天在军火市场上捣乱。

比如出口土耳其的坦克,自己掏几亿美元给土耳其,说联合研发,然后拿的订单。。。。。。。

别的国家都是为了赚钱,去出口军火。韩国是为了名胜,赔钱出口,彻底搞乱了市场。比如土耳其的自行火炮,本来中国炮挺有竞争力的,结果棒子赔钱买,把中国的机会给搅黄了。

真是太讨厌了!!!!!!
这买卖做得真让人无语啊!
看来印泥人还没有那么傻。前段时间被棒子的间谍活动搞得灰头土脸的印泥人没有死心,原来是有缘由的。