超级军网谁说中国只想大搞快高核能发电？
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BBC消息，美国一环境委员会统计报告称，2010年全年在绿色能源（不包括核能）投资上中国以544亿美元高居榜首，美国仅以340亿美元排名第三。中国还是世界上最大的风能发电机组和太阳能发电板的生产国。
原文如下：
China remains the world's leading investor in low-carbon energy technology, a global study has shown.
The table, published by the US Pew Environment Group, showed that the Chinese invested $54.4bn (￡34.1bn) in 2010, up from $39.1bn in 2009.
While the US saw investment increase by 51% to $34bn, it still slipped from 2nd to 3rd in the ranking, behind Germany's $41.2bn.
However, the UK slipped outside the top 10 as investment fell by 70% in 2010.
Globally, the sector - which does not include nuclear power - attracted $243bn of investment, a 30% increase from 2009 and a whopping 630% rise since 2004.
The authors also said that 40 gigawatts (GW) of wind and 17GW of solar energy were installed during 2010, taking the global clean power capacity to 388GW.
The report Who's Winning the Clean Energy Race, using data compiled by Bloomberg New Energy Finance, examined the clean energy sector's investment and technological trends in the G20 leading economies.
"Looking at global trends, the solar sector experiences the strongest growth among the various technologies," observed Michael Liebreich, chief executive of Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
"Declining prices and generous government support in key countries helped the solar sector achieve 40% of total clean energy investment in 2010," he added.
Continue reading the main story
Clean energy investment top 10
Nation
Total ( in US$)
1. China
54.4
2. Germany
41.2
3. US
34.0
4. Italy
13.9
5. Rest of EU-27
13.4
6. Brazil
7.6
7. Canada
5.6
8. Spain
4.9
9. France
4.0
10. India
4.0
(13. UK
3.3)
(Source: Pew Environment Group; Bloomberg)
Action call on low-carbon future
The report outlined that as well as attracting the most investment, China was also the world's leading producer of wind turbines and solar energy units.
The authors also pointed out that the country in 2009 overtook the US as the nation with the most installed clean energy capacity.
In terms of year-on-year growth, Argentina topped the rankings as it saw investment grow by 568% in 2010 compared with 2009.
Regionally, Europe remained the largest recipient of investment, attracting $94.4bn of investment. Asia/Oceania was the second most attractive region for investors, securing $82.2bn.
Explaining the UK's slip in the rankings, Mr Liebreich suggested that it was a result of "policy uncertainty during a substantial part of the year".
In May, the UK general election resulted in a coalition government involving the Conservative Party and the Liberal Democrats. However, the deal was only struck after five days of intensive negotiations.
"With a new government in the UK, investors appear to be waiting on the sidelines until there is more certainty in the market," suggested Phyllis Cuttino, director of Pew's Clean Energy Program.
"Our research consistently demonstrates that strong policies attracts investments," she added.
"Nations like China, Germany and India, which all saw increases, were attractive to financiers because they have national policies that create long-term certainty for investors."
Looking ahead to this year, Mr Liebreich said that he expected to see a slowing in the growth rate of investment in clean energy, yet he did expect to see a marked increased in generation capacity.
"Another thing worth watching is new technologies coming through," he told reporters.
"There was a surge in venture and private equity investment during 2005-08; and those companies have been under the radar because of the (economic) crisis. But you are now starting to see companies that have survived the difficult years... establish some commercial scale in their activities."
He concluded by saying that there had been a number of "black swans rocking the energy sector", such as the unrest in Middle Eastern nations and the aftermath of the Magnitude 9.0 earthquake in Japan.
"These things do change the landscape for clean energy," Mr Leibreich said.
"It is hard to recall the last time that clean energy caused a catastrophe of any magnitude. As thoughts about risk pervades policymakers' and investors' thinking, you are likely to see another strand of support for the clean energy industry."BBC消息，美国一环境委员会统计报告称，2010年全年在绿色能源（不包括核能）投资上中国以544亿美元高居榜首，美国仅以340亿美元排名第三。中国还是世界上最大的风能发电机组和太阳能发电板的生产国。
原文如下：
China remains the world's leading investor in low-carbon energy technology, a global study has shown.
The table, published by the US Pew Environment Group, showed that the Chinese invested $54.4bn (￡34.1bn) in 2010, up from $39.1bn in 2009.
While the US saw investment increase by 51% to $34bn, it still slipped from 2nd to 3rd in the ranking, behind Germany's $41.2bn.
However, the UK slipped outside the top 10 as investment fell by 70% in 2010.
Globally, the sector - which does not include nuclear power - attracted $243bn of investment, a 30% increase from 2009 and a whopping 630% rise since 2004.
The authors also said that 40 gigawatts (GW) of wind and 17GW of solar energy were installed during 2010, taking the global clean power capacity to 388GW.
The report Who's Winning the Clean Energy Race, using data compiled by Bloomberg New Energy Finance, examined the clean energy sector's investment and technological trends in the G20 leading economies.
"Looking at global trends, the solar sector experiences the strongest growth among the various technologies," observed Michael Liebreich, chief executive of Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
"Declining prices and generous government support in key countries helped the solar sector achieve 40% of total clean energy investment in 2010," he added.
Continue reading the main story
Clean energy investment top 10
Nation
Total ( in US$)
1. China
54.4
2. Germany
41.2
3. US
34.0
4. Italy
13.9
5. Rest of EU-27
13.4
6. Brazil
7.6
7. Canada
5.6
8. Spain
4.9
9. France
4.0
10. India
4.0
(13. UK
3.3)
(Source: Pew Environment Group; Bloomberg)
Action call on low-carbon future
The report outlined that as well as attracting the most investment, China was also the world's leading producer of wind turbines and solar energy units.
The authors also pointed out that the country in 2009 overtook the US as the nation with the most installed clean energy capacity.
In terms of year-on-year growth, Argentina topped the rankings as it saw investment grow by 568% in 2010 compared with 2009.
Regionally, Europe remained the largest recipient of investment, attracting $94.4bn of investment. Asia/Oceania was the second most attractive region for investors, securing $82.2bn.
Explaining the UK's slip in the rankings, Mr Liebreich suggested that it was a result of "policy uncertainty during a substantial part of the year".
In May, the UK general election resulted in a coalition government involving the Conservative Party and the Liberal Democrats. However, the deal was only struck after five days of intensive negotiations.
"With a new government in the UK, investors appear to be waiting on the sidelines until there is more certainty in the market," suggested Phyllis Cuttino, director of Pew's Clean Energy Program.
"Our research consistently demonstrates that strong policies attracts investments," she added.
"Nations like China, Germany and India, which all saw increases, were attractive to financiers because they have national policies that create long-term certainty for investors."
Looking ahead to this year, Mr Liebreich said that he expected to see a slowing in the growth rate of investment in clean energy, yet he did expect to see a marked increased in generation capacity.
"Another thing worth watching is new technologies coming through," he told reporters.
"There was a surge in venture and private equity investment during 2005-08; and those companies have been under the radar because of the (economic) crisis. But you are now starting to see companies that have survived the difficult years... establish some commercial scale in their activities."
He concluded by saying that there had been a number of "black swans rocking the energy sector", such as the unrest in Middle Eastern nations and the aftermath of the Magnitude 9.0 earthquake in Japan.
"These things do change the landscape for clean energy," Mr Leibreich said.
"It is hard to recall the last time that clean energy caused a catastrophe of any magnitude. As thoughts about risk pervades policymakers' and investors' thinking, you are likely to see another strand of support for the clean energy industry."
原文如下：
China remains the world's leading investor in low-carbon energy technology, a global study has shown.
The table, published by the US Pew Environment Group, showed that the Chinese invested $54.4bn (￡34.1bn) in 2010, up from $39.1bn in 2009.
While the US saw investment increase by 51% to $34bn, it still slipped from 2nd to 3rd in the ranking, behind Germany's $41.2bn.
However, the UK slipped outside the top 10 as investment fell by 70% in 2010.
Globally, the sector - which does not include nuclear power - attracted $243bn of investment, a 30% increase from 2009 and a whopping 630% rise since 2004.
The authors also said that 40 gigawatts (GW) of wind and 17GW of solar energy were installed during 2010, taking the global clean power capacity to 388GW.
The report Who's Winning the Clean Energy Race, using data compiled by Bloomberg New Energy Finance, examined the clean energy sector's investment and technological trends in the G20 leading economies.
"Looking at global trends, the solar sector experiences the strongest growth among the various technologies," observed Michael Liebreich, chief executive of Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
"Declining prices and generous government support in key countries helped the solar sector achieve 40% of total clean energy investment in 2010," he added.
Continue reading the main story
Clean energy investment top 10
Nation
Total ( in US$)
1. China
54.4
2. Germany
41.2
3. US
34.0
4. Italy
13.9
5. Rest of EU-27
13.4
6. Brazil
7.6
7. Canada
5.6
8. Spain
4.9
9. France
4.0
10. India
4.0
(13. UK
3.3)
(Source: Pew Environment Group; Bloomberg)
Action call on low-carbon future
The report outlined that as well as attracting the most investment, China was also the world's leading producer of wind turbines and solar energy units.
The authors also pointed out that the country in 2009 overtook the US as the nation with the most installed clean energy capacity.
In terms of year-on-year growth, Argentina topped the rankings as it saw investment grow by 568% in 2010 compared with 2009.
Regionally, Europe remained the largest recipient of investment, attracting $94.4bn of investment. Asia/Oceania was the second most attractive region for investors, securing $82.2bn.
Explaining the UK's slip in the rankings, Mr Liebreich suggested that it was a result of "policy uncertainty during a substantial part of the year".
In May, the UK general election resulted in a coalition government involving the Conservative Party and the Liberal Democrats. However, the deal was only struck after five days of intensive negotiations.
"With a new government in the UK, investors appear to be waiting on the sidelines until there is more certainty in the market," suggested Phyllis Cuttino, director of Pew's Clean Energy Program.
"Our research consistently demonstrates that strong policies attracts investments," she added.
"Nations like China, Germany and India, which all saw increases, were attractive to financiers because they have national policies that create long-term certainty for investors."
Looking ahead to this year, Mr Liebreich said that he expected to see a slowing in the growth rate of investment in clean energy, yet he did expect to see a marked increased in generation capacity.
"Another thing worth watching is new technologies coming through," he told reporters.
"There was a surge in venture and private equity investment during 2005-08; and those companies have been under the radar because of the (economic) crisis. But you are now starting to see companies that have survived the difficult years... establish some commercial scale in their activities."
He concluded by saying that there had been a number of "black swans rocking the energy sector", such as the unrest in Middle Eastern nations and the aftermath of the Magnitude 9.0 earthquake in Japan.
"These things do change the landscape for clean energy," Mr Leibreich said.
"It is hard to recall the last time that clean energy caused a catastrophe of any magnitude. As thoughts about risk pervades policymakers' and investors' thinking, you are likely to see another strand of support for the clean energy industry."BBC消息，美国一环境委员会统计报告称，2010年全年在绿色能源（不包括核能）投资上中国以544亿美元高居榜首，美国仅以340亿美元排名第三。中国还是世界上最大的风能发电机组和太阳能发电板的生产国。
原文如下：
China remains the world's leading investor in low-carbon energy technology, a global study has shown.
The table, published by the US Pew Environment Group, showed that the Chinese invested $54.4bn (￡34.1bn) in 2010, up from $39.1bn in 2009.
While the US saw investment increase by 51% to $34bn, it still slipped from 2nd to 3rd in the ranking, behind Germany's $41.2bn.
However, the UK slipped outside the top 10 as investment fell by 70% in 2010.
Globally, the sector - which does not include nuclear power - attracted $243bn of investment, a 30% increase from 2009 and a whopping 630% rise since 2004.
The authors also said that 40 gigawatts (GW) of wind and 17GW of solar energy were installed during 2010, taking the global clean power capacity to 388GW.
The report Who's Winning the Clean Energy Race, using data compiled by Bloomberg New Energy Finance, examined the clean energy sector's investment and technological trends in the G20 leading economies.
"Looking at global trends, the solar sector experiences the strongest growth among the various technologies," observed Michael Liebreich, chief executive of Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
"Declining prices and generous government support in key countries helped the solar sector achieve 40% of total clean energy investment in 2010," he added.
Continue reading the main story
Clean energy investment top 10
Nation
Total ( in US$)
1. China
54.4
2. Germany
41.2
3. US
34.0
4. Italy
13.9
5. Rest of EU-27
13.4
6. Brazil
7.6
7. Canada
5.6
8. Spain
4.9
9. France
4.0
10. India
4.0
(13. UK
3.3)
(Source: Pew Environment Group; Bloomberg)
Action call on low-carbon future
The report outlined that as well as attracting the most investment, China was also the world's leading producer of wind turbines and solar energy units.
The authors also pointed out that the country in 2009 overtook the US as the nation with the most installed clean energy capacity.
In terms of year-on-year growth, Argentina topped the rankings as it saw investment grow by 568% in 2010 compared with 2009.
Regionally, Europe remained the largest recipient of investment, attracting $94.4bn of investment. Asia/Oceania was the second most attractive region for investors, securing $82.2bn.
Explaining the UK's slip in the rankings, Mr Liebreich suggested that it was a result of "policy uncertainty during a substantial part of the year".
In May, the UK general election resulted in a coalition government involving the Conservative Party and the Liberal Democrats. However, the deal was only struck after five days of intensive negotiations.
"With a new government in the UK, investors appear to be waiting on the sidelines until there is more certainty in the market," suggested Phyllis Cuttino, director of Pew's Clean Energy Program.
"Our research consistently demonstrates that strong policies attracts investments," she added.
"Nations like China, Germany and India, which all saw increases, were attractive to financiers because they have national policies that create long-term certainty for investors."
Looking ahead to this year, Mr Liebreich said that he expected to see a slowing in the growth rate of investment in clean energy, yet he did expect to see a marked increased in generation capacity.
"Another thing worth watching is new technologies coming through," he told reporters.
"There was a surge in venture and private equity investment during 2005-08; and those companies have been under the radar because of the (economic) crisis. But you are now starting to see companies that have survived the difficult years... establish some commercial scale in their activities."
He concluded by saying that there had been a number of "black swans rocking the energy sector", such as the unrest in Middle Eastern nations and the aftermath of the Magnitude 9.0 earthquake in Japan.
"These things do change the landscape for clean energy," Mr Leibreich said.
"It is hard to recall the last time that clean energy caused a catastrophe of any magnitude. As thoughts about risk pervades policymakers' and investors' thinking, you are likely to see another strand of support for the clean energy industry."
太阳能板生产污染很大的…
984343 发表于 2011-3-30 12:26 
是的
是的
我们那边号称要打造光伏之都。都在坑爹地骗老百姓吧
能源是国家的根基啊
太阳能发电最大的缺点其实不是原料污染。。。
实际上是对当地自然环境的影响，风力发电也一样。。。
所以太阳能和风力的大规模利用都得在荒漠，戈壁，海上等地区。
这种人为的对自然气候的干扰，其后果目前是未知的，这才是最可怕的。
实际上是对当地自然环境的影响，风力发电也一样。。。
所以太阳能和风力的大规模利用都得在荒漠，戈壁，海上等地区。
这种人为的对自然气候的干扰，其后果目前是未知的，这才是最可怕的。
NND 到底咋办才好涅？愁死个人咧
redstorm 发表于 2011-3-30 13:04
杞人忧天说的就是你这号人，多学点知识比较好。
杞人忧天说的就是你这号人，多学点知识比较好。
说起来核能其实很清洁了！
没有火电的大气污染 没有那么多碳排放 不会消耗化石资源！
相比水电不会改变自然水系环境（修个三峡，啥事都给JY赖上了····）
相比风电 潮汐 发电稳定 技术更成熟 维护也更方便（风电的维修成本比建造成本不低甚至更高）也不会干预自然环境！
相比光伏发电，效率更高 占地面积少 不受天气影响····同时还没有生产太阳能板的污染和一些资源消耗！
核电最大的隐患就是····核废料的处理还有核事故！ 但是随着技术的进步核电会越来越安全！加上严格的监管只要50年不出核事故应该差不多能撑到核聚变的实用阶段了吧！ 核聚变就真正清洁了···
····嗯，至于 可控核聚变简直是人类未来的希望所在！
没有火电的大气污染 没有那么多碳排放 不会消耗化石资源！
相比水电不会改变自然水系环境（修个三峡，啥事都给JY赖上了····）
相比风电 潮汐 发电稳定 技术更成熟 维护也更方便（风电的维修成本比建造成本不低甚至更高）也不会干预自然环境！
相比光伏发电，效率更高 占地面积少 不受天气影响····同时还没有生产太阳能板的污染和一些资源消耗！
核电最大的隐患就是····核废料的处理还有核事故！ 但是随着技术的进步核电会越来越安全！加上严格的监管只要50年不出核事故应该差不多能撑到核聚变的实用阶段了吧！ 核聚变就真正清洁了···
····嗯，至于 可控核聚变简直是人类未来的希望所在！
什么时候发贴 要审核了····
redstorm 发表于 2011-3-30 13:04
太阳能发电目前地球上最成功的是澳大利亚 , 因为地广人稀,
太阳能目前需要的占地面积太大了
太阳能发电目前地球上最成功的是澳大利亚 , 因为地广人稀,
太阳能目前需要的占地面积太大了
984343 发表于 2011-3-30 12:26
保定就有处理这种污染物的公司，还能回收再次使用
保定就有处理这种污染物的公司，还能回收再次使用
生产太阳能板相当的耗费能源且污染也是很大，不要以为那很环保
很可能又会被坑一大笔
6楼的说的有错误，之所以荒漠，戈壁，海上，那是因为那些地形才有常年的风和阳光啊...
其他地区就很少了，比如深山，有风也被挡掉了... 新疆西藏那边太阳能就发展很好，
太阳能利用对环境影响很小，国外现在就有太阳能和自然环境融合的建筑..缺点也有就是，
太阳能板的制造本身污染环境比较厉害，还有就是太阳能的利用率一直不太高，还有就是对自然环境要求
很高，比如日光期要超过多少天，否则就没太大意义了...局限性比较高...同样发电比价格也贵...
其他地区就很少了，比如深山，有风也被挡掉了... 新疆西藏那边太阳能就发展很好，
太阳能利用对环境影响很小，国外现在就有太阳能和自然环境融合的建筑..缺点也有就是，
太阳能板的制造本身污染环境比较厉害，还有就是太阳能的利用率一直不太高，还有就是对自然环境要求
很高，比如日光期要超过多少天，否则就没太大意义了...局限性比较高...同样发电比价格也贵...
Rest of EU-27是哪个国家?
这种东西骗老美就罢了，别把自己也骗了
地方上马风能太阳能和上马核能一个心思，都能骗中央投资，又有税收之类的优惠，创造就业拉动地方GDP
至于效益、安全之类的问题，留后下任或下下任
地方上马风能太阳能和上马核能一个心思，都能骗中央投资，又有税收之类的优惠，创造就业拉动地方GDP
至于效益、安全之类的问题，留后下任或下下任
不明白楼主列的数据想说明什么?
中国是光伏太阳能能电板生产大国,但不是使用大国,生产的太阳能板是用来出口赚钱的.
这和自身电力供应不是一个概念.
中国是光伏太阳能能电板生产大国,但不是使用大国,生产的太阳能板是用来出口赚钱的.
这和自身电力供应不是一个概念.
板斧 发表于 2011-3-30 13:06
搞笑。。我是没知识。。。但不会自以为是。。。
我就想知道本来应该照射到土地上的太阳能被遮挡了会不会有影响，
水分蒸发会不会有影响，地表温度会不会有影响，自然分解能力会不会有影响，
空气成分会不会有影响，降水会不会有影响，自然循环会不会有影响，
自己去看看这种东西需要多大面积。
风力也是一样，自然能量转换不可能没有影响。
我不明白什么叫杞人忧天，我就知道探索讨论未知的东西，是人类本能。
搞笑。。我是没知识。。。但不会自以为是。。。
我就想知道本来应该照射到土地上的太阳能被遮挡了会不会有影响，
水分蒸发会不会有影响，地表温度会不会有影响，自然分解能力会不会有影响，
空气成分会不会有影响，降水会不会有影响，自然循环会不会有影响，
自己去看看这种东西需要多大面积。
风力也是一样，自然能量转换不可能没有影响。
我不明白什么叫杞人忧天，我就知道探索讨论未知的东西，是人类本能。
说到底都是地方政府在坑人，中国现在太阳能电池板厂一百多家，总产出超过全世界需求一点五倍，造成的污染不计其数，谁管？所谓的风力发电动辄投资百亿，一个个只赔不赚，谁管？核心技术一样都没有，全部进口拉动人家别国经济，还他娘的好意思吹，12五竟然拿这个当重点，没救了！
环保和健康是两码事 ！！！
我觉得太阳能和风能又是洋人一个陷阱而已,可惜国内的官员科学素养实在是...
别忘了美国、德国紧跟其后，真的像同志们说的那么危险，何以美国德国紧跟其后呢
chforce 发表于 2011-3-30 13:17
你这样认为很正确，但是一堆人不懂，又有一堆jy趁机煽风点火…有种丫的不用电！这帮人从来都是嘴炮…
你这样认为很正确，但是一堆人不懂，又有一堆jy趁机煽风点火…有种丫的不用电！这帮人从来都是嘴炮…
回复 6# redstorm
纯属放屁
能有多个 多大影响？
纯属放屁
能有多个 多大影响？
蜀山棒棒军 发表于 2011-3-30 15:31
有多大影响讨论研究一下不行么？ 我又没说弄了这些地球就完蛋了。。。
干啥语言攻击我。。。。
有多大影响讨论研究一下不行么？ 我又没说弄了这些地球就完蛋了。。。
干啥语言攻击我。。。。
回复 24# FGW观察员
不认为完全正确 好处什么的就不说了 但发生泄漏问题时都是祸延子孙的 而且很长时间该地区就和废了没什么两样 一旦泄漏除了逃离该地没有什么其他好办法了 就算是改变自然水系环境也比核电站安全 当然了你所在地区没核电站的话说完全正确也能理解 夸张点说核电站就是江湖上流传已久的杀人于无形的无色无味无影无形的剧性毒药
不认为完全正确 好处什么的就不说了 但发生泄漏问题时都是祸延子孙的 而且很长时间该地区就和废了没什么两样 一旦泄漏除了逃离该地没有什么其他好办法了 就算是改变自然水系环境也比核电站安全 当然了你所在地区没核电站的话说完全正确也能理解 夸张点说核电站就是江湖上流传已久的杀人于无形的无色无味无影无形的剧性毒药
太陽能生產 主要是生產幾種坩堝和電池有污染吧。。。
還有就是生產太陽能電板單晶硅本身就需要大量電能。。。。
還有就是生產太陽能電板單晶硅本身就需要大量電能。。。。
天朝这种国家是一定要发展核电站的
回复 27# jatvre
我个人角度是支持核电建设的，但是前提是足够成熟的技术核严格的监管 审查！ 在内陆地区尤其是长江水系建设核电站也有些担忧！
从国情来说建设核电也是必然！
首先TG面临很大的能源供应问题，这个必须解决，不解决能源问题怎么解决发展问题？不管是可持续发展还是其他什么，根本目的、核心是发展！首先解决了发展和生存问题才能去考虑影响和危害！建解决问题，但可能发生事故，不建····大家漆黑黑的晚上无聊了就创造人类算了吧！
第二 核电是能源问题的目前最优解！
仍然大力发展火电显然不现实，再次 垃圾焚烧产能也不足。
水电肯定要要开发，但是而水电论证、建设周期长，对环境也存在一定的影响，这种影响还很不好估量，比如影响鱼类回流、破坏库区生态环境、水系富营养化、甚至对地压力什么的！再加上TG虽然水力资源丰富但是开发难度大，雅鲁藏布江就是一个典型！对于流入他国的河流开发还存在争议，虽然我也很希望掐死三哥的水源！
再说风能、潮汐，虽然TG 有漫长的海岸线与广阔的草原与沙漠，但是风能潮汐的开发难度都比较大，技术也不是很成熟！ 成本···说实在的潮汐发电的成本我不清楚，但是风能真的是高成本 难维护！而且关键是TG没技术，要进口！ 加上产能及其不稳定，输电建设更困难（沙漠草原搭电线建设难度维护难度都高些）！成本、技术、产能这是风力和潮汐的最大问题吧！
而潮汐、风能对地球环境会造成什么影响真不好说····风能对降水 温度 季风 大气循环 气候有什么影响？潮汐会不会影响海水温度？海水蒸发量？自然状态下近海海水流动？对海洋生物又影响如何？
光伏发电的问题 19楼已经说的很清楚了！ 而且还存在制造污染和转换率低下，受天气影响等！
而地热发电什么的，小打小闹了···发不了多少电！
再来说核电的安全问题，核电事故是分等级的，不是所有事故都和切尔诺贝利、福岛一般严重！ 福岛那是RB自找的 切那时毛子自己弄实验整出来的！
而在目前技术条件下，能有严格的监管和审批，严格按照制度操作很难出现严重的事故！拿福岛来说 建设位置 地震带··（似乎日本都在地震带上）再次本来就是该废掉的老堆了非要撑着用，而在处理事故时的各种不恰当举措最终造成现在的悲剧！我相信一开始按照规程 预案来处理就不会导致事故扩大！虽然似乎压根就没预案！
很多时候人们对于核电的危害的影响过分的夸大，我承认严重核事故的影响、危害缺失难以估量，但是并不是所有核事故都会核泄漏什么的！ 欧洲 MD核电营运的成功案例很多嘛，核电危害MD不清楚？香水不知道？人家权衡后不还是选择了核电！
通过严格措施确保核电安全，渡过可控核聚变实用前的阶段后，那就光明了！真正的清洁能源就诞生了
回复 27# jatvre
我个人角度是支持核电建设的，但是前提是足够成熟的技术核严格的监管 审查！ 在内陆地区尤其是长江水系建设核电站也有些担忧！
从国情来说建设核电也是必然！
首先TG面临很大的能源供应问题，这个必须解决，不解决能源问题怎么解决发展问题？不管是可持续发展还是其他什么，根本目的、核心是发展！首先解决了发展和生存问题才能去考虑影响和危害！建解决问题，但可能发生事故，不建····大家漆黑黑的晚上无聊了就创造人类算了吧！
第二 核电是能源问题的目前最优解！
仍然大力发展火电显然不现实，再次 垃圾焚烧产能也不足。
水电肯定要要开发，但是而水电论证、建设周期长，对环境也存在一定的影响，这种影响还很不好估量，比如影响鱼类回流、破坏库区生态环境、水系富营养化、甚至对地压力什么的！再加上TG虽然水力资源丰富但是开发难度大，雅鲁藏布江就是一个典型！对于流入他国的河流开发还存在争议，虽然我也很希望掐死三哥的水源！
再说风能、潮汐，虽然TG 有漫长的海岸线与广阔的草原与沙漠，但是风能潮汐的开发难度都比较大，技术也不是很成熟！ 成本···说实在的潮汐发电的成本我不清楚，但是风能真的是高成本 难维护！而且关键是TG没技术，要进口！ 加上产能及其不稳定，输电建设更困难（沙漠草原搭电线建设难度维护难度都高些）！成本、技术、产能这是风力和潮汐的最大问题吧！
而潮汐、风能对地球环境会造成什么影响真不好说····风能对降水 温度 季风 大气循环 气候有什么影响？潮汐会不会影响海水温度？海水蒸发量？自然状态下近海海水流动？对海洋生物又影响如何？
光伏发电的问题 19楼已经说的很清楚了！ 而且还存在制造污染和转换率低下，受天气影响等！
而地热发电什么的，小打小闹了···发不了多少电！
再来说核电的安全问题，核电事故是分等级的，不是所有事故都和切尔诺贝利、福岛一般严重！ 福岛那是RB自找的 切那时毛子自己弄实验整出来的！
而在目前技术条件下，能有严格的监管和审批，严格按照制度操作很难出现严重的事故！拿福岛来说 建设位置 地震带··（似乎日本都在地震带上）再次本来就是该废掉的老堆了非要撑着用，而在处理事故时的各种不恰当举措最终造成现在的悲剧！我相信一开始按照规程 预案来处理就不会导致事故扩大！虽然似乎压根就没预案！
很多时候人们对于核电的危害的影响过分的夸大，我承认严重核事故的影响、危害缺失难以估量，但是并不是所有核事故都会核泄漏什么的！ 欧洲 MD核电营运的成功案例很多嘛，核电危害MD不清楚？香水不知道？人家权衡后不还是选择了核电！
通过严格措施确保核电安全，渡过可控核聚变实用前的阶段后，那就光明了！真正的清洁能源就诞生了
还是原始社会比较环保
据说，太阳能发的电还没材料、制造、后处理过程等工序用掉的多。。。
据说，太阳能发的电还没材料、制造、后处理过程等工序用掉的多。。。
windrarara 发表于 2011-3-30 08:15
天涯有个帖子说过这个事,在气候变化框架公约里其实这种新能源,发达国家会有补贴的,自己去申请,tg现在抓住这个机会,死命的要钱.....甚至还发展出了自己的技术,将来......
天涯有个帖子说过这个事,在气候变化框架公约里其实这种新能源,发达国家会有补贴的,自己去申请,tg现在抓住这个机会,死命的要钱.....甚至还发展出了自己的技术,将来......
在这里核电利益者太多了。
太阳板生产过程中污染较大，更重要是耗能高，生产过程耗能与它的全寿命发电量少不了多少，所以本地生产本地使用完全不经济，而中国生产（能源价低、人工低、污染税低）欧洲使用（电价高、新能源还可以骗到补贴）则可有赚头
持续的研究与投入是有益的，如太阳能热水器，是中国用的最多也最成熟。
核电肯定是不能少的，不为什么，缺能源，可是它的危害要正视，风能太阳能什么的说污染不污染，世上有百分百完美无缺的事吗？别忘了，核电厂产生的核废料。这个才叫历害~核电肯定是有好有坏的方面，正视它才重要，一味夸它，不妥，一味损它，不妥。
allenma44 发表于 2011-3-30 16:10
太阳能电池板用的是多晶硅吧。
太阳能电池板用的是多晶硅吧。
回复 38# wangjqi
單晶硅...必須滴...
多晶硅也可以做,但是熱效率要低點....
單晶硅...必須滴...
多晶硅也可以做,但是熱效率要低點....
redstorm 发表于 2011-3-30 13:49
核电火电额外的往大自然排放热量就引不起生态灾难了？你把地球想的太脆弱了。
核电火电额外的往大自然排放热量就引不起生态灾难了？你把地球想的太脆弱了。