菜鸟问题:目前国产机载计算机的操作系统是什么?

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是不是Windows ???

{:2_74:}是不是Windows ???

{:2_74:}


{:3_80:} linux发来贺电,什么时候轮到满是洞洞经常死机的winodws捏,军队的东西可靠性是排前的要求,几亿的灰机突然当空死机,且不是杯具

{:3_80:} linux发来贺电,什么时候轮到满是洞洞经常死机的winodws捏,军队的东西可靠性是排前的要求,几亿的灰机突然当空死机,且不是杯具
这个还真不大清楚,有没有知道的给科普一下
国产机载计算机。。。应该是和硬件整合的,不是公开流行的操作系统,应该是类似单片机的东西吧
以上纯属 无责任猜想
截击机 发表于 2010-4-26 23:44
    连Android都发来贺卡……
嵌入式芯片,直接汇编地干活,写入EPROM里,根本不怕病毒哈。
有条件的可以用上vxwork,有的场合也根本不需要用OS,比如功能单一的发动机控制计算机或大气数据计算机。
用89C51的……
实时操作系统,也就VxWorks、μClinux、μC/OS-II和eCos这几种选择吧
VxWorks用的多
c c++?
开发的专用程序?
对了,B2 跑的操作系统已经商用了,楼主有兴趣可以买一套玩~


回复 9# morning_007
正好说反了,因为内核小,容易实现。实时操作系统是最多最杂的,光实时linux就一堆,还有RTEMS,ThreadX、TRON、LynxOS、QNX……
貌似进了小白贴-_-

回复 9# morning_007
正好说反了,因为内核小,容易实现。实时操作系统是最多最杂的,光实时linux就一堆,还有RTEMS,ThreadX、TRON、LynxOS、QNX……
貌似进了小白贴-_-
piginfly 发表于 2010-4-27 00:25

那软件系统如何升级?

飞机的计算机系统里面有显卡、硬盘么?
超山猫 发表于 2010-4-27 00:41


这怎么可能。。。???
morning_007 发表于 2010-4-27 00:35
小日本的几款产品都不错,排在uClinux前面。uC/OS实用的不多,主要是拿来学习的


是 B1B 的 Integrity-178B 操作系统,F-16、F22、F-35 也使用她,甚至 A380、787 也用。

2008 年 11 月 18 日,在收到美国国家安全局最高安全认证之后,开发商Green Hills Software宣布它的Integrity-178B操作系统被认证为EAL6+,宣布将涉足操作系统市场,向私营企业和政府机构推销该产品。Green Hills子公司Integrity Global Security的CEO David Chandler表示,“EAL6+是至今为止评级最高的操作系统,这意味着它能抵御资金雄厚和技术先进的攻击者。”该公司还在网站上宣传“Integrity安全,Windows、Linux、VxWorks和其它操作系统不安全”。Windows、Linux和VxWorks的安全评级为EAL 4+


详见 http://www.darkreading.com/secur ... articleID=212100421

Secure OS Gets Highest NSA Rating, Goes Commercial
Unlike existing commercial OSes, Integrity OS is designed and certified to defend against sophisticated attacks
A 18, 2008 | 06:22 H

By Kelly Jackson Higgins
DarkReading
An operating system used in military fighter planes has raised the bar for system security as a new commercial offering.

After receiving the highest security rating by a National Security Agency (NSA)-run certification program, Green Hills Software has announced that its Integrity-178B operating system was certified as EAL6+ and that the company had spun off a subsidiary to market the OS to the private sector as well as government agencies.

"[EAL6+] is the highest [rating] in the world [given to an OS so far today]. This means that the OS was designed and certified to defend against well-funded and sophisticated attackers," says David Chandler, CEO of Integrity Global Security, the new Green Hills subsidiary.

Windows and Linux, meanwhile, are EAL 4+ certified, which means they can defend against "inadvertent and casual" security breach attempts, Chandler says. Integrity-178 B meets the rigorous Common Criteria Separation Kernel Protection Profile (SKPP) standard, which guarantees that malicious code can't corrupt or harm any other application running on the system.

"I'm delighted that they have accomplished this," said Stephen Hanna, co-chair of the Trusted Computing group and distinguished engineer with Juniper Networks, during his keynote at the CSI 2008 conference in National Harbor, Md., Tuesday. "This is serious security."

The OS, which was first deployed in the B1B bomber in 1997, today runs in military and commercial aircraft, including the F-16, F-22, and F-35 military jets, and the Airbus 380 and Boeing 787 airplanes. "It was developed for the highest level of security and reliability," Chandler says. "It's designed to provide a separation, so that what's happening in one area of the computer will not hurt the other part of the OS."

Popular operating systems, such as Windows, Linux, and MacOS, can run atop Integrity-178B, basically as virtual "guests" on the OS, while Integrity runs in hardware. Each operates in its own partition so that if one area is compromised, it can't spread to other areas of the system. "If a hacker got in past the firewall, intrusion detection system, and through Linux," he couldn't get anywhere else in the system, Chandler says.

The OS can run as the sole OS or on servers and clients running Windows, Linux, MacOS, Solaris, and VxWorks, as well as on Palm OS and Symbian PDA's.

Why go commercial now with the hardened OS? Integrity's Chandler says enterprises have been ready for "quite some time" for a more secure operating system. The system and its associated integration and consulting services are custom solutions, says Chandler, who declined to reveal pricing details for that reason.

But whether enterprises will have room in their budgets for hardening their OS environments is unclear as the global financial crisis worsens.

Chandler maintains that locking down the OS saves money for security in the long run. "There's an opportunity that this [solution] could be a cost savings for enterprises, with all that is spent on intrusion prevention" and other security tools and efforts, he says.

Meanwhile, Neil MacDonald, vice president and fellow at Gartner, says partitioning is key to ensuring the security of data and represents the foundation of Gartner's Adaptive Security Infrastructure vision. "Security software running on the same physical machine as the workloads and information it is protecting can't be unequivocally trusted without strong isolation, high assurance, and resiliency of the software," he says.


是 B1B 的 Integrity-178B 操作系统,F-16、F22、F-35 也使用她,甚至 A380、787 也用。

2008 年 11 月 18 日,在收到美国国家安全局最高安全认证之后,开发商Green Hills Software宣布它的Integrity-178B操作系统被认证为EAL6+,宣布将涉足操作系统市场,向私营企业和政府机构推销该产品。Green Hills子公司Integrity Global Security的CEO David Chandler表示,“EAL6+是至今为止评级最高的操作系统,这意味着它能抵御资金雄厚和技术先进的攻击者。”该公司还在网站上宣传“Integrity安全,Windows、Linux、VxWorks和其它操作系统不安全”。Windows、Linux和VxWorks的安全评级为EAL 4+


详见 http://www.darkreading.com/secur ... articleID=212100421

Secure OS Gets Highest NSA Rating, Goes Commercial
Unlike existing commercial OSes, Integrity OS is designed and certified to defend against sophisticated attacks
A 18, 2008 | 06:22 H

By Kelly Jackson Higgins
DarkReading
An operating system used in military fighter planes has raised the bar for system security as a new commercial offering.

After receiving the highest security rating by a National Security Agency (NSA)-run certification program, Green Hills Software has announced that its Integrity-178B operating system was certified as EAL6+ and that the company had spun off a subsidiary to market the OS to the private sector as well as government agencies.

"[EAL6+] is the highest [rating] in the world [given to an OS so far today]. This means that the OS was designed and certified to defend against well-funded and sophisticated attackers," says David Chandler, CEO of Integrity Global Security, the new Green Hills subsidiary.

Windows and Linux, meanwhile, are EAL 4+ certified, which means they can defend against "inadvertent and casual" security breach attempts, Chandler says. Integrity-178 B meets the rigorous Common Criteria Separation Kernel Protection Profile (SKPP) standard, which guarantees that malicious code can't corrupt or harm any other application running on the system.

"I'm delighted that they have accomplished this," said Stephen Hanna, co-chair of the Trusted Computing group and distinguished engineer with Juniper Networks, during his keynote at the CSI 2008 conference in National Harbor, Md., Tuesday. "This is serious security."

The OS, which was first deployed in the B1B bomber in 1997, today runs in military and commercial aircraft, including the F-16, F-22, and F-35 military jets, and the Airbus 380 and Boeing 787 airplanes. "It was developed for the highest level of security and reliability," Chandler says. "It's designed to provide a separation, so that what's happening in one area of the computer will not hurt the other part of the OS."

Popular operating systems, such as Windows, Linux, and MacOS, can run atop Integrity-178B, basically as virtual "guests" on the OS, while Integrity runs in hardware. Each operates in its own partition so that if one area is compromised, it can't spread to other areas of the system. "If a hacker got in past the firewall, intrusion detection system, and through Linux," he couldn't get anywhere else in the system, Chandler says.

The OS can run as the sole OS or on servers and clients running Windows, Linux, MacOS, Solaris, and VxWorks, as well as on Palm OS and Symbian PDA's.

Why go commercial now with the hardened OS? Integrity's Chandler says enterprises have been ready for "quite some time" for a more secure operating system. The system and its associated integration and consulting services are custom solutions, says Chandler, who declined to reveal pricing details for that reason.

But whether enterprises will have room in their budgets for hardening their OS environments is unclear as the global financial crisis worsens.

Chandler maintains that locking down the OS saves money for security in the long run. "There's an opportunity that this [solution] could be a cost savings for enterprises, with all that is spent on intrusion prevention" and other security tools and efforts, he says.

Meanwhile, Neil MacDonald, vice president and fellow at Gartner, says partitioning is key to ensuring the security of data and represents the foundation of Gartner's Adaptive Security Infrastructure vision. "Security software running on the same physical machine as the workloads and information it is protecting can't be unequivocally trusted without strong isolation, high assurance, and resiliency of the software," he says.
占个座了解一下~~
坐等科普…
huangfeihong 发表于 2010-4-27 00:38


    听说是用ada开发的...
中科院搞的一种
传闻 F-35 改用 C++/JAVA 编写软件时,
美帝一堆 ADA 元老在批评那是引入了无穷无尽的 Bug 和陷阱。

J-10 开始编写时,貌似 ADA 还没发展起来。
再传闻,
很久以前,我国军机机载计算机就用了仿制的 ppc cpu,
至少性能不会比美帝差多少。
可以很负责任的说:既不是windows也不是linux,而是和底层直接联系,无需OS的专用软件系统,哈哈
ARM也能仿?还很久以前?是在种花看的?
仿 cpu 不算啥吧,
貌似我们从不缺牛人~

只不过祸害牛人的烂人也多。
hercules 发表于 2010-4-27 01:19

那软件不是像windows是的三天两头弄个update更新一下的。
我估计如果没有重大漏洞和缺陷,一般不升级的。更新一版就得做n多测试保证可靠性要求。再说那都是固件啊,直接写EPROM或FLASH的,要升级估计得拆机箱拔芯片了。

至于显卡,计算机系统大体架构都差不多。要说有没有专门用于显示的子系统,肯定有;但不是我们平常攒机见到的显卡的模样。而且性能也不会是像游戏显卡那样变态,顶多就负责刷屏,解放主cpu工作量的。

硬盘我就不知道了。按说飞机在天上翻跟头打滚,震动剧烈,不会上传统硬盘。歼十用的啥不知道,估计没硬盘,或者用一堆EPROM顶上去。我同学参加的某项目(这两年的),测试硬盘是用的SSD。
记载用ARM? 貌似ARM在高端嵌入的应用还未入门

F35的最大失败就是放弃ADA转投C++, 偶承认是A粉030.gif
stephen123 发表于 2010-4-27 10:40


ARM根本就不需要仿,人本来就是个卖核的,核卖给你随便你该干啥干啥
超山猫 发表于 2010-4-27 10:52


    老大,你好歹让国内仿个可重复烧写的单片机出来再说吧,89C51也可以啊。还仿ARM?
luckychen 发表于 2010-4-27 11:04


    是别人说仿的不是我说的。ARM估计不能出售给中国吧。要不还搞“龙芯”干什么?
传闻星载操作系统有用rtems改写的,  机载应该也可以的吧。。。。{:wugu:}

听大佬说机载vxwork用得多{:ya:}
“龙--芯”也成了敏感词?防x之口,甚于防川?
回复 29# stephen123

89c51应该早就有了吧,这个太简单了,难道还没搞定?
话说记得在哪看到的,说长二捆的一项重大改进就是用机械控制器换成了单片机程序控制,貌似就是51?不过据说是8031而不是89c51,说上天的东西好像怕辐照,集成度不能太高?
求证中……
一直很好奇国内用什么ADA编译器,买商用的? 不会是用gcc吧,貌似80年代还没有gcc-ada。。。。{:wugu:}

另外还有个好奇的,现在的gcc-ada究竟到了军用的级别没有。。。。{:yi:}
国内N年前就开始搞VxWorks了,内核也买了,现在正应该是开花结果的时候
8031连ROM都没集成,是89C51的祖太爷级的东西。8031--8051--80C51--87C51--89C51。
据闻抗辐射只跟制程有关,什么时候跟集成度也扯上关系了?
目前国内唯一号称“国产”的STC89C51还是国外的贴牌产品。
楼主是不是认为执行专门任务的计算机也得用通用的操作系统么……
hercules 发表于 2010-4-27 01:19
更换LRU
超山猫 发表于 2010-4-27 10:30
ADA出现在1979-980年前后,直接从Pascal发展而来