超级军网从谷歌退出到某些人的上蹦下跳
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谷歌说要退出
然而近2个月来却没有看到什么针对谷歌的一些ZF专项行动
当前的网络言论管制程度还跟一个月以前的差不多
为啥这几天茶馆帖子就能超过空版？
为啥这几天某些ID就能跟打了鸡血似的成了发帖机器？
为啥这几天出现了如此多的跳大神的列兵？
这次是谷歌单方面先放了P说要退出
怎么才能理解成这是进一步局域网化的标志？
还是说只有谷歌才能帮你了解体制外的东西？
真是越来越像一盘棋啊:D谷歌说要退出
然而近2个月来却没有看到什么针对谷歌的一些ZF专项行动
当前的网络言论管制程度还跟一个月以前的差不多
为啥这几天茶馆帖子就能超过空版？
为啥这几天某些ID就能跟打了鸡血似的成了发帖机器？
为啥这几天出现了如此多的跳大神的列兵？
这次是谷歌单方面先放了P说要退出
怎么才能理解成这是进一步局域网化的标志？
还是说只有谷歌才能帮你了解体制外的东西？
真是越来越像一盘棋啊:D
然而近2个月来却没有看到什么针对谷歌的一些ZF专项行动
当前的网络言论管制程度还跟一个月以前的差不多
为啥这几天茶馆帖子就能超过空版？
为啥这几天某些ID就能跟打了鸡血似的成了发帖机器？
为啥这几天出现了如此多的跳大神的列兵？
这次是谷歌单方面先放了P说要退出
怎么才能理解成这是进一步局域网化的标志？
还是说只有谷歌才能帮你了解体制外的东西？
真是越来越像一盘棋啊:D谷歌说要退出
然而近2个月来却没有看到什么针对谷歌的一些ZF专项行动
当前的网络言论管制程度还跟一个月以前的差不多
为啥这几天茶馆帖子就能超过空版？
为啥这几天某些ID就能跟打了鸡血似的成了发帖机器？
为啥这几天出现了如此多的跳大神的列兵？
这次是谷歌单方面先放了P说要退出
怎么才能理解成这是进一步局域网化的标志？
还是说只有谷歌才能帮你了解体制外的东西？
真是越来越像一盘棋啊:D
要走请自便， 嚷嚷个锤子， 狗粪们跟你主子一起圆润的离开。
那个什么猞猁的最近两天跳的特别厉害的怎么不发表点高论？
然而近2个月来却没有看到什么针对谷歌的一些ZF专项行动
报告楼主，我们高中班级用来保存在线通讯薄的google docs中的电子表格，打不开了。这是最近两个月之内发生的事。奇怪的是同是google docs，word 和 ppt都可以正常使用。
用google的在线文档保存通讯簿，每人通过自己的邮箱账号访问以及更新自己的条目，既保证了安全性，又保证了实时性，被封之后，我一直没有找到能替代这项功能的国内网站，高喊google滚出去的达人们，有没有这方面的解决方案？
另外，为了防止个人信息泄露，我们不使用一般网站的提供的通讯簿。
Polygon 发表于 2010-1-16 21:56 
5毛会反驳你：“因为google docs上的言论不和谐”
不过话说回来 google docs上确实有很不和谐的东西，不过一刀切，把整个网站封了，还真是有常凯申宁可错杀一千不可放过一个的风格啊
;P
5毛会反驳你：“因为google docs上的言论不和谐”
不过话说回来 google docs上确实有很不和谐的东西，不过一刀切，把整个网站封了，还真是有常凯申宁可错杀一千不可放过一个的风格啊
;P
Polygon 发表于 2010-1-16 21:56
介个... 为啥和谐电子表格呢{:3_98:}
介个... 为啥和谐电子表格呢{:3_98:}
路过，支持楼主
蛋腚，坐看一帮蝇营狗苟
蛋腚，坐看一帮蝇营狗苟
fokker1027 发表于 2010-1-16 21:59
估计大多数人都没听说过google docs吧，更别提用过了。
当初blogspot被封，我转用新浪博客
picasaweb被封，我转用网易相册
googlepages被封，放弃个人主页
google docs被封，这下惨了，通讯簿上百人在用呢，还没找到替换的方法，目前只能定期发email+excel来维护了。
估计大多数人都没听说过google docs吧，更别提用过了。
当初blogspot被封，我转用新浪博客
picasaweb被封，我转用网易相册
googlepages被封，放弃个人主页
google docs被封，这下惨了，通讯簿上百人在用呢，还没找到替换的方法，目前只能定期发email+excel来维护了。
wangxun159 发表于 2010-1-16 22:01
我以为是我账号问题，但翻墙之后可以访问，只得将之前保存的东西转存到本地。
网址是：http://spreadsheets.google.com
我以为是我账号问题，但翻墙之后可以访问，只得将之前保存的东西转存到本地。
网址是：http://spreadsheets.google.com
wangxun159 发表于 2010-1-16 20:56
你要是能知道ZF的专项行动，你就不会一天呆在电脑前发无聊贴了。
你要是能知道ZF的专项行动，你就不会一天呆在电脑前发无聊贴了。
重庆人 发表于 2010-1-16 22:18
原来您是体制内人士
能不能给俺讲讲？;P
原来您是体制内人士
能不能给俺讲讲？;P
Polygon 发表于 2010-1-16 22:08
google相册被封时，就不知道google。cn这个太监还有什么用，现在走了还好点
google相册被封时，就不知道google。cn这个太监还有什么用，现在走了还好点
google退出的理由一点不值得同情
大家只是借这个事情来吐槽一下这几个月来TG打着扫黄的旗帜，极度出格的封杀网站的行为而已，
现在CD搬到香港给了大家一个一吐怨气的机会，不骂白不骂。
大家只是借这个事情来吐槽一下这几个月来TG打着扫黄的旗帜，极度出格的封杀网站的行为而已，
现在CD搬到香港给了大家一个一吐怨气的机会，不骂白不骂。
体制外的东西，不用Google，轮子的货比它好使。
>> 当前的网络言论管制程度还跟一个月以前的差不多
楼主生活在哪个星球？
楼主生活在哪个星球？
除了对谷歌地球有兴趣，别的一律无视
为什么满大街的洗头房，桑拿不扫，偏偏只在网络上扫黄？
谁给解释一下？
谁给解释一下？
cyek 发表于 2010-1-17 01:15
先从娃娃抓起;P
先从娃娃抓起;P
cyek 发表于 2010-1-17 01:15
操，这么浅显的道理你都不懂？？？？？？？
实体色情业第一能解决一大批女青年就业问题，第二能拉动地区经济发展，进而拉动GDP
你丫的宅在家里看A片，对国家和民族有啥贡献？？？？？？？？？
操，这么浅显的道理你都不懂？？？？？？？
实体色情业第一能解决一大批女青年就业问题，第二能拉动地区经济发展，进而拉动GDP
你丫的宅在家里看A片，对国家和民族有啥贡献？？？？？？？？？
foxpat 发表于 2010-1-17 03:02
对啊,待在家里还用多了电,浪费了能源. :)
对啊,待在家里还用多了电,浪费了能源. :)
我承认，我是来看发贴人和某几个回帖人的:D
意料之中，还是那么几个不知是人还是五毛的东西
意料之外，还是那么几句对着谷歌汪汪汪的套话
意料之中，还是那么几个不知是人还是五毛的东西
意料之外，还是那么几句对着谷歌汪汪汪的套话
我承认，我是来看发贴人和某几个回帖人的:D
意料之中，还是那么几个不知是人还是五毛的东西
意料之外，还是那么几句对着谷歌汪汪汪的套话
意料之中，还是那么几个不知是人还是五毛的东西
意料之外，还是那么几句对着谷歌汪汪汪的套话
以上都是高见，实在忍不住要回复膜拜。
也不知道到底谁在上蹿下跳
cyek 发表于 2010-1-17 01:15
满大街的洗头房，桑拿那是有交钱的,那是促进内需,那是公仆的营生.网上的谁交钱了?不交钱还想经营,开什么玩笑?
满大街的洗头房，桑拿那是有交钱的,那是促进内需,那是公仆的营生.网上的谁交钱了?不交钱还想经营,开什么玩笑?
因为谷歌有网络公关呗。
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne ... mp;sid=ax3R._M1rgys
据说怂了。。。。
据说怂了。。。。
发贴拿钱最可耻
出来蹦跳一下，除了颠覆、分裂国家和带色的外，支持狗狗放弃对敏感词的屏蔽
那些个唧唧歪歪的,总是那么几个{:3_77:}
我喜欢google,但是要走,请自便~~
我喜欢google,但是要走,请自便~~
网络很复杂。有些人根本就是google的马仔，美国的代理人，甚至是美国政府的网特。:D
歌剧院幽灵 发表于 2010-1-17 10:56
汪、汪、汪
给钱吧，5毛就好:victory:
不用骂了，俺奥黑子就是这么不要脸:D
汪、汪、汪
给钱吧，5毛就好:victory:
不用骂了，俺奥黑子就是这么不要脸:D
31楼五毛出没。
Googel退出对于五毛来说，短期是利好，可以努力发帖多挣钱；长期来说是利空，磨没有了自然也就不需要驴了:D
Googel退出对于五毛来说，短期是利好，可以努力发帖多挣钱；长期来说是利空，磨没有了自然也就不需要驴了:D
既非鬼又非人 发表于 2010-1-17 14:16
作为一个LOSER，我迫不及待的想上位:D
作为一个LOSER，我迫不及待的想上位:D
美国时代来打jy的脸
The furor surrounding Google's bombshell announcement that it was contemplating withdrawing from business in China has centered on long-simmering issues of privacy, government control, and censorship. Google, a company whose DNA dictates that it "do no harm," is particularly well-cast in the role of defender of western values of freedom of expression and open access to information against a Chinese system that brooks no political dissent and reserves the right to forcibly prevent certain types of information ranging from political expression to porn.
But there is another story here, more prosaic but no less important to the future arc of global business and the global balance of power. Google has not been doing all that well in China, as many have noted in recent days, badly trailing the domestic Chinese search company Baidu. But it isn't just that Google has struggled. All of the New Economy western companies in the media and information business have failed to establish themselves in China. Before Google, eBay and Yahoo both made investments of years and millions upon millions of dollars to tap the fast-growing Internet generation in China, and like Google, they could not gain traction. Both companies ended up pulling the plug on their China ventures, with eBay losing out to domestic Chinese auction company Taobao, and Yahoo ceding its operations for an ownership stake in Alibaba.com (which also controls Taobao).
(See the top 10 internet blunders.)
The failure of these New Economy players in China is in stark contrast to the success of brick-and-mortar companies. Consumer stars like Nike, food franchises like Kentucky Fried Chicken, industrial giants like General Electric and United Technologies, and technology behemoths ranging from Microsoft to Intel to IBM have prospered in China. In fact, mainland China has been the most impressive growth market for hundreds of global companies for the past decade. So how did Google stumble so badly?
The rap on China's growth is that there's lots of building and selling but not much innovation. In many areas of the economy, that's true — and the same could have been said for the growth of the United States at the end of the 19th century. But in the areas of media and the Internet, it isn't. There, China has a thriving culture of thirtysomething entrepreneurs, many with U.S. work experience, who are creating home-grown franchises catering to the burgeoning world of the web in China. Baidu, the rival search engine to Google, is most in the news lately; others include web portal and entertainment companies Sina and Netease; on-line, multi-user gaming company Shanda (which recently made an acquisition of an American gaming company and plans to expand to the United States); internet and mobile applications giant Tencent; and a host of others, some public, some still in start-up mode.
(See the best business deals of 2009.)
These companies have a distinct advantage over foreign competitors because their founders and senior managers are part of the same elite class as the regulators who enforce the various and mostly unwritten rules of censorship. They have offices in Beijing, and they lobby the Chinese government through uncharted back channels and are in what amounts to a continuous dialogue about what is and what is not acceptable. This includes not only political censorship but morals — especially relating to porn and sex. Google may have hired its own cadre of Chinese executives but it — like Yahoo and eBay before — has always played catch-up to the more connected crowd of Chinese entrepreneurs and their companies.
Google and the Western media in general have effectively turned this imbroglio into a clash of morals. Perhaps. But it is also yet another symbol of the shifting balance of economic power globally. Other countries censor content, and not just rogue regimes such as the Iranian mullocracy. Web sites are blocked throughout the Persian Gulf and North Africa based on objectionable content and this hasn't created much of a furor. Other countries also engage in cyber espionage, especially Israel and of course the United States Government itself with the largest group of hackers in the world employed by the National Security Agency.
But China's efforts to censor and monitor the web represent a challenge to the uncontested hegemony of Western business and to the dominance of Silicon Valley in the world of new technologies. That story — of China's emergence and a burgeoning world of hungry entrepreneurs not willing to play second fiddle to America — is the backstory for the Google imbroglio and one that is about to assume center stage.
Zachary Karabell is the author of "Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends On it" (Simon & Schuster 2009) and president of River Twice Research (www.rivertwice.com)
文章要点：
一、绝大部分美国公司在华很成功 （Nike，KFC，GM，GE，UT，MSFT，INTC）；
二、绝大部分美国网络公司在华很失败（Google，Yahoo，Ebay）
三、他们输给了扎根于本土的中国网络公司
四、网络审查是世界各国通行的规则，中国不是第一个，也不是最后一个；
五、网络攻击非常普遍，全球最大的黑客集团是美国国家安全局（National Security Agency）雇佣的；
六、中国的坚持显示了实力对比的变迁，中国不愿再屈服于他人。
The furor surrounding Google's bombshell announcement that it was contemplating withdrawing from business in China has centered on long-simmering issues of privacy, government control, and censorship. Google, a company whose DNA dictates that it "do no harm," is particularly well-cast in the role of defender of western values of freedom of expression and open access to information against a Chinese system that brooks no political dissent and reserves the right to forcibly prevent certain types of information ranging from political expression to porn.
But there is another story here, more prosaic but no less important to the future arc of global business and the global balance of power. Google has not been doing all that well in China, as many have noted in recent days, badly trailing the domestic Chinese search company Baidu. But it isn't just that Google has struggled. All of the New Economy western companies in the media and information business have failed to establish themselves in China. Before Google, eBay and Yahoo both made investments of years and millions upon millions of dollars to tap the fast-growing Internet generation in China, and like Google, they could not gain traction. Both companies ended up pulling the plug on their China ventures, with eBay losing out to domestic Chinese auction company Taobao, and Yahoo ceding its operations for an ownership stake in Alibaba.com (which also controls Taobao).
(See the top 10 internet blunders.)
The failure of these New Economy players in China is in stark contrast to the success of brick-and-mortar companies. Consumer stars like Nike, food franchises like Kentucky Fried Chicken, industrial giants like General Electric and United Technologies, and technology behemoths ranging from Microsoft to Intel to IBM have prospered in China. In fact, mainland China has been the most impressive growth market for hundreds of global companies for the past decade. So how did Google stumble so badly?
The rap on China's growth is that there's lots of building and selling but not much innovation. In many areas of the economy, that's true — and the same could have been said for the growth of the United States at the end of the 19th century. But in the areas of media and the Internet, it isn't. There, China has a thriving culture of thirtysomething entrepreneurs, many with U.S. work experience, who are creating home-grown franchises catering to the burgeoning world of the web in China. Baidu, the rival search engine to Google, is most in the news lately; others include web portal and entertainment companies Sina and Netease; on-line, multi-user gaming company Shanda (which recently made an acquisition of an American gaming company and plans to expand to the United States); internet and mobile applications giant Tencent; and a host of others, some public, some still in start-up mode.
(See the best business deals of 2009.)
These companies have a distinct advantage over foreign competitors because their founders and senior managers are part of the same elite class as the regulators who enforce the various and mostly unwritten rules of censorship. They have offices in Beijing, and they lobby the Chinese government through uncharted back channels and are in what amounts to a continuous dialogue about what is and what is not acceptable. This includes not only political censorship but morals — especially relating to porn and sex. Google may have hired its own cadre of Chinese executives but it — like Yahoo and eBay before — has always played catch-up to the more connected crowd of Chinese entrepreneurs and their companies.
Google and the Western media in general have effectively turned this imbroglio into a clash of morals. Perhaps. But it is also yet another symbol of the shifting balance of economic power globally. Other countries censor content, and not just rogue regimes such as the Iranian mullocracy. Web sites are blocked throughout the Persian Gulf and North Africa based on objectionable content and this hasn't created much of a furor. Other countries also engage in cyber espionage, especially Israel and of course the United States Government itself with the largest group of hackers in the world employed by the National Security Agency.
But China's efforts to censor and monitor the web represent a challenge to the uncontested hegemony of Western business and to the dominance of Silicon Valley in the world of new technologies. That story — of China's emergence and a burgeoning world of hungry entrepreneurs not willing to play second fiddle to America — is the backstory for the Google imbroglio and one that is about to assume center stage.
Zachary Karabell is the author of "Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends On it" (Simon & Schuster 2009) and president of River Twice Research (www.rivertwice.com)
文章要点：
一、绝大部分美国公司在华很成功 （Nike，KFC，GM，GE，UT，MSFT，INTC）；
二、绝大部分美国网络公司在华很失败（Google，Yahoo，Ebay）
三、他们输给了扎根于本土的中国网络公司
四、网络审查是世界各国通行的规则，中国不是第一个，也不是最后一个；
五、网络攻击非常普遍，全球最大的黑客集团是美国国家安全局（National Security Agency）雇佣的；
六、中国的坚持显示了实力对比的变迁，中国不愿再屈服于他人。
中.常.弹. 发表于 2010-1-17 00:49
您老生活在哪个星球;P
能不能给俺举个例子 一个月前比现在能多搜点啥东西？
难不成哪个常委最近喜得一子 被你掐指算出来了？:D
您老生活在哪个星球;P
能不能给俺举个例子 一个月前比现在能多搜点啥东西？
难不成哪个常委最近喜得一子 被你掐指算出来了？:D
歌剧院幽灵 发表于 2010-1-17 10:56
真是说曹操曹操就到:D
有心之人一定不会忘记你滴
给俺说说 这几天进了多少账;P
真是说曹操曹操就到:D
有心之人一定不会忘记你滴
给俺说说 这几天进了多少账;P
好歹大家也都是成年人了。
算了，偶还是继续观赏吧。
算了，偶还是继续观赏吧。
行了，没在家家户户安摄像头就不错了，还不满足。。。。
好不容易有件事能淡化下cnmd，有些人自然跟打了鸡血一样了呗，话说又不是Google被小白兔整倒闭了，那些服务一个没关。最搞笑的是还有人用gg用出优越感来了，不得不说下限无止境啊