MD 和毛子为啥都急着甩核武库.......

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大家可以来解读一下:  为啥MD和毛子都急着把核武库缩水................

毛子的核武库是因为年代已久...........老核弹们服役太久...........军事改革方向逐渐向更新的方向上走.......

另外一个是维持这些老爷级核弹的经费问题.............实在庞大.......


即使在获得核威慑的手段上面,也倾向于用新的核装备..........



军事思想转变上,军事改革更多是倾向在维持核威慑的同时, 加快常规部队的建设............

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那么MD,要在旧条约失效前.........同时也是奥巴马去拿诺贝尔奖的时候..........甩核武库......

其原因呢?

军事思想转变? 认为么有必要维持这样大的核武库.

经费问题? 貌似有的是钱..........

政治上的诉求?




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Russia, U.S. to sign new START before Obama receives Nobel Peace Prize



The White House is in a hurry to sign a new U.S.-Russian strategic arms reduction treaty before December 10, when President Barack Obama receives the Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo, Norway. And Moscow is ready to comply.

On Thursday, Obama's National Security Adviser, General James L. Jones, submitted a package of U.S. proposals to the Russian side in Moscow. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the proposals &quot;highlight progress at the talks.&quot;

Washington and Moscow declined to comment on the new proposals. &quot;As both sides consider this a sensitive issue, it has been decided not to disclose the details of the talks before the agreement is signed,&quot; a Russian negotiator told the paper.

Previously, the sides were divided on mutual nuclear-warhead delivery-vehicle cuts and Russia's demand to formalize the link between strategic defensive and offensive arms in the treaty.

A Russian negotiator said the delivery-vehicle issue and the problem of linking offensive and defensive arms had been settled.

&quot;Although the sides have compromised on these parameters of the treaty, we have still failed to reach agreement with the United States on a number of Russian concerns. Nevertheless, we are making headway,&quot; he said.

With the current START-I treaty set to expire on December 5, 2009, the sides are saying the new agreement will be signed on time, but are declining to comment on specific disagreements and achievements.

&quot;The negotiators will, most likely, acquaint the presidents with the results of their work in the run-up to the November 14 Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Singapore and will propose that they adopt a decision on the most difficult issues,&quot; a Kremlin source said.

He said the White House also wanted to finalize and sign the treaty on schedule. &quot;On December 10, the Nobel Peace Prize will be awarded in the Oslo City Hall. Our partners want the document to be signed before Barack Obama receives the Peace Prize. And we don't mind,&quot; the source said.
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大家可以来解读一下:  为啥MD和毛子都急着把核武库缩水................

毛子的核武库是因为年代已久...........老核弹们服役太久...........军事改革方向逐渐向更新的方向上走.......

另外一个是维持这些老爷级核弹的经费问题.............实在庞大.......


即使在获得核威慑的手段上面,也倾向于用新的核装备..........



军事思想转变上,军事改革更多是倾向在维持核威慑的同时, 加快常规部队的建设............

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那么MD,要在旧条约失效前.........同时也是奥巴马去拿诺贝尔奖的时候..........甩核武库......

其原因呢?

军事思想转变? 认为么有必要维持这样大的核武库.

经费问题? 貌似有的是钱..........

政治上的诉求?




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Russia, U.S. to sign new START before Obama receives Nobel Peace Prize



The White House is in a hurry to sign a new U.S.-Russian strategic arms reduction treaty before December 10, when President Barack Obama receives the Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo, Norway. And Moscow is ready to comply.

On Thursday, Obama's National Security Adviser, General James L. Jones, submitted a package of U.S. proposals to the Russian side in Moscow. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the proposals &quot;highlight progress at the talks.&quot;

Washington and Moscow declined to comment on the new proposals. &quot;As both sides consider this a sensitive issue, it has been decided not to disclose the details of the talks before the agreement is signed,&quot; a Russian negotiator told the paper.

Previously, the sides were divided on mutual nuclear-warhead delivery-vehicle cuts and Russia's demand to formalize the link between strategic defensive and offensive arms in the treaty.

A Russian negotiator said the delivery-vehicle issue and the problem of linking offensive and defensive arms had been settled.

&quot;Although the sides have compromised on these parameters of the treaty, we have still failed to reach agreement with the United States on a number of Russian concerns. Nevertheless, we are making headway,&quot; he said.

With the current START-I treaty set to expire on December 5, 2009, the sides are saying the new agreement will be signed on time, but are declining to comment on specific disagreements and achievements.

&quot;The negotiators will, most likely, acquaint the presidents with the results of their work in the run-up to the November 14 Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Singapore and will propose that they adopt a decision on the most difficult issues,&quot; a Kremlin source said.

He said the White House also wanted to finalize and sign the treaty on schedule. &quot;On December 10, the Nobel Peace Prize will be awarded in the Oslo City Hall. Our partners want the document to be signed before Barack Obama receives the Peace Prize. And we don't mind,&quot; the source said.
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你以为核武器是啥.???

简单直接点说,就是,干耗钱,又很少很难用得着的东西.不甩?这两个已经差钱差的快吐血的主,能不甩吗?

PS.米国借钱,大毛国没钱.
这玩意又贵,还不能使:使完就地球灭啦,还不如多买几架f35
核武的维护费用很高的,不是说造了一颗原子弹放仓库就行了,想中子弹这种半衰期短的也就十几年的寿命,现在形势上又大不了大仗,放着干耗着费钱
这东西,够用就行
核武器这种东西可不是上古神兵、绝世好剑之类的东西,造好了,埋地下上千年,拿出来照样用的那种,平时需要人伺候,有的还有保质期。
维护十分麻烦,那个辐射人见人怕。
其实是他们才算开始渐渐明白。只要常规军力足够强大,没有核武器,照样打的人满地找牙。
又不是都砍掉,多余的浪费钱,拿出来混个名声不好吗?
能把地球灭一次也就够用了,这哥俩加起来估计都俩位数了。
拿来吓人的东西 搞多了就是吓自己
一磅武器级铀可是据说几千万美元呢 一枚弹头用个几十磅都是小数字

再说核弹头放着 可不是不花钱 传说金属铀有种很NB得特性 是容易老化还是怎么着。。。。。
当然是追求可持续发展啦:D
中看不中用的东西,有一点就够了,好是毛爷爷看得明白。
现有的核武数量是当年冷战攀比出来的……这个规模是非理性的
冷战结束后两边就自然商量着裁
保持足够威慑力的数量就行,没必要维持巨大的规模,这是一笔巨大的财政负担,尤其在经济危机的背景下。。。
1没钱,核武器够用就行!保养费惊人。
2无论毛子还是MD,核弹头主要都是80年代前后的,也存在老化的问题!
毛子是为了省钱维持一个相对数量较低的核武库,何况实际上削减掉的都是些失效的老核弹

至于美帝是为了升级核武库,用后效更低的核弹去替代老式核弹,以谋求在常规战争中使用它。。。。。
这么变态的东西用一颗就够了,存个几十几百颗的费钱
skill561 发表于 2009-10-31 22:02

据说维持400个可以二次报复性打击的弹就足够.............
没钱了,何况毛子的核武库,这么多年没有效测试,有几枚能用的都难说,多裁掉一些也无所谓。
如果大家都没有核武,以MD的常规武器优势,他的霸权可能更牛B,可是现在这样,你可以灭地球几次,我哪怕只有几个,大家也平衡了.....当初看过一段评论,说阿三发展核武器来与小巴对抗是极愚蠢的.......
楼兰 发表于 2009-11-1 11:04

与中国对抗是不是就非常聪明了?
当然在小巴核化之前没能解决印巴问题,对印度而言麻烦是大大的。
所以在这一点上,TG显然是比较聪明的,呵呵
henrychenwei 发表于 2009-10-31 20:34
恩 。。也有这个的一定因素在里面。。。
核武器对大国来说早就是没有用的东西了。
核武器对大国而言就是鸡肋
但是这个东西没有却不行……
甩掉要报废的,再顺便忽悠下
Kuraki 发表于 2009-10-30 23:42

我突然想到,TG的思路,有限反击,有限威慑
是不是也是这个思路
因为看到了早晚要裁下去,所以干脆不多造
维护成本高,退役后即使处理费用也高,还用不出去,不甩了没钱养啊
larksurp 发表于 2009-11-1 18:06


甩还可以创收发电用........:D
维持这么多核武得多大一笔钱啊
phylly 发表于 2009-10-30 22:02

手头够毁灭人类4遍以上,自然要扔,不都毁灭了还有什么用,难得鞭尸?
就是银子的原因吧,太耗钱了。
只要足够让敌人挂掉就OK了,那么多天天要保养。。。
毛子前几年抛浓缩铀把铀价压到50美元,现在才涨起来
冷战期间,大部分核弹头其实都是瞄准对方的发射井的
现在美俄两国都放弃这个任务了
自然就多出很多弹头来
家里东西太多了,自然要处理掉一些,反正不影响使用
但万万不可没有的
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2009-10-30 21:59


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