9.25号， 克里莫夫总设计师专访---中国直升机发动机研发 ...

第一，关于RD-93的情况， 目前已确认的事， 购买了100。

但是有疑点， 究竟是8.3吨推力还是9吨？


第二， 关于提供直升机发动机的情况， 总师说， TG决定自己研发， 目前还在初级项目评估阶段， 克里莫夫设计局将参与解决其中的一些问题。

下一阶段在决定是否共同研发。

目前还正在谈发动机维修和制造的一些问题。


第三，关于在中国组装米里直升机的谈判， 貌似这个总师对谈判结果不乐观阿。




关键问题节选：


- The RD-93 engines, intended for the Sino-Pakistani fighter FC-1/JF-17, "Klimov" is now working to increase traction?

- Negotiations with China leads Rosoboronexport, correct to refer to it. To date, work in this direction is, I think that is correct, the project for the industry and from a political point of view very interesting. We believe that the Chinese plane, which is installed on this engine, not a competitor to our light fighter, he was quite a different class. Of course, we would like to keep things a bit faster, but there is a certain procedure approvals. Nevertheless, progress is now Rosoboronexport under contract. Terms of reference have been agreed. Support JDC has greatly contributed to the fact that this project move faster.

- When will the completed contract to supply China 100 RD-93 engines with a thrust of 8.3 tonnes, which was signed in 2005?

- Contract performs Chernyshev plant, so the question to them. It depends on many factors.

- Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation allowed re-RD-93 engines in six countries. Can China will soon be signed any more contracts for the FC-1 and, accordingly, re-RD-93?

- Expected future contracts there, but it deals with China. All small countries with small territories, which have the Air Force, gladly buy this aircraft.

- At one time discussed the possibility of the development, production and supply of engines in China VC-2500 VC-300 and BK-800 helicopter, planned to release the Chinese industry. This idea has evolved?

- China is working to create its own helicopter engine. A Rosoboronexport, we will be involved in solving certain problems that exist in China. This does not in any degree training, and participation, this R & D, but still only the first stage, when there is a project evaluation. At a later stage, Russia and China will determine whether it is a joint development, or it will not be shared. With the increase park Russian helicopters in China can carry on a conversation about how to organize it repairs and manufacture of engines. But it's interesting when a large fleet of helicopters, and whether to go to further increase in China, I can not say.

- "Helicopters of Russia have been negotiating on the assembly of the helicopter" MI "in China. The project deals with the assembly of Russian engines in China?

- Negotiations are all sorts, many of them. But mean it's not that they will end so that the project will be implemented. Each party assesses the extent it interesting. In addition, all this costs money, and substantial. And the Chinese believe they can.




==============================================================



全文：



OAO Klimov, designer of engines for helicopters, the Mi and Ka, as well as engines for fighter aircraft "MiG", recently entered into the United engine-corporation-controlled Oboronprom. According to plans of the JDC, with the 2013 "Klimov" no longer will produce engines for helicopters. To learn how to guide "Klimov" sees its prospects in the JDC and the current projects the company "AviaPort" said executive director Alexander Vatagin.

- Like OAO Klimov "to build relations with the new engine of the Joint Corporation (JDC) after the transfer of the functions of the sole executive body? What questions remain in the competence of leadership "Klimov", which - at the JDC?

- This question can be three answers. You can tell how all the sweet, healthy and perfect. You can criticize. And you can not answer. I will choose the fourth option, and say that we at the beginning. Relationships are built properly, but they are exactly lined up. The fact that it is not just against the parent company and the individual subsidiaries. There is a construction holding company, therefore, to assess over the short time that we are in the JDC, in my view, premature. Conclusions worth doing in a year.

To date, fundamental changes to my competence as a leader did not happen, any rights I have no one took it, not cut. As in most integrated structures, "top", ie the level of RBC that left questions related to strategy, with budget money, to marketing, with the advance in the market. This is logical, since the management company is visible to the entire industry, not just the interests of one company.

- What place should take products "Klimov" in the model number of the JDC?

- JDC focuses on promising projects. It focuses on engines for the PAK FA, MS-21, engines for advanced helicopter. We are participating or will participate, I hope all future projects. But as the parent company - on a new helicopter engines. With regard to the current nomenclature Klimov turbojet as subjects, and turbo-prop, I think, compared to other businesses and industries in general, it takes in the model number JDC rightful place.

- At what stage is the development of the engine for advanced helicopter?

- This is a promising high-speed helicopter: now "Helicopters of Russia" form its shape and, accordingly, creating a vision and ideology of the engine for him. If in a nutshell, it must be dry electric motor.

- Do you work on high-speed helicopter with Mil Mil?

- His vision is like the Mil Helicopter Plant, and have KB Kamov. I think the final point - in 2011, when this work will be financed from the state budget. Now specialists "Helicopters of Russia" assess the market, look to overseas development. Because you can do superprodvinuty helicopter, but the market it will not be in demand. A Russian helicopter pilots to get into the best market, both for military and for the national economy.

- Where will be assembling an engine?

- To date, decided that the new production of JSC "Ufa Engine Industrial Association".

- JDC decided to organize production for the production of engines for helicopters in Ufa. In 2008, the production of engines for helicopters provided OAO Klimov, almost half of sales: 1.38 billion rubles for a total of 2.6 billion rubles. When the production of engines in 2013 will take place in Ufa, on what "Klimov" can earn?

- If we consider the company as a separate, not included into any integrated structure, then it is 100%-ing responsibility for their own financial well-being, finds lucrative contracts that allow him to live and grow. As part of an integrated structure, I think that the management company are properly distributed cash flows, and the sheep that were intact, and the wolves are hungry.

- That is "Klimov" will go into class subsidized businesses? For R & D of large deductions do not bring.

- We sent to JDC roadmap for three years, from 2010 to 2012 inclusive. Under this plan, we have everything in order. I think that this trend will continue.

- And what do you these three years for a planned?

- Planned movement and work on those areas of the enterprise on which it currently operates. It is the creation of new technology, selling production models, service and support operation. However, if now there was some subsidence on our core, the core activities - research and development, in terms of revenue contracts and purchase orders, we are planning growth in this area both by foreign customers, and due to the state budget. For serial production and service we should be increased.

- And what is the annual plan for the production of engines TV3-117 and CI-2500 to 2013?

- This will depend on orders from the needs of helicopter factories. We expect that the volume will increase. The production plan for 2009 - about 120 engines.

- What are the financial indicators "Klimov" ends in 2009?

- Definitely a profit. But, unfortunately, the state is not encouraged to work with a profit! If we operate at a profit, are not considered options for our state support, is questionable even for interest on bank loans. It is believed that in the position in which the "Klimov, we do not need this compensation. But this is absolutely not true. At a certain approach farming and losses can be, it also depends on how you spend. We need investment in tehperevoruzhenie, upgrade the technological base. You can, of course, is to spend their own money and as a result fall into a loss, but it will be grading, re-and serious, fundamental impact on the efficiency of it will not have. We have several years of drafting a comprehensive reconstruction of the company, so that by 2011-2012 to be prepared to work on promising engines. And this can be achieved only if the complex reconstruction, rather than a point. In financial terms, the amount of profit will depend very much on how our contractors will carry out its obligations.

But definitely this year we will finish with a profit, it is my job as manager. After all, why there is a joint stock company? For profit. If we do not get the profit, the company should be closed down.

- Forecast of revenues in the figure can be called?

- I think earnings will be higher than last year. But she very much will depend on the position of our partners - motors and aircraft construction enterprises, so I'm not prepared to give specific figures.

- How is the funding for the development of the engine for the MiG-35?

- To date, it is assumed that the MiG-35 will be used by power plant, as a ship's MiG-29K - RD-33MK. But it has yet to confirm the RAC "MiG". Maybe something will need to bring, odd jobs to offer MiG-35 more advanced version.

- According to information from other vendors RSK "MiG", in relation to their own financial situation, the corporation has suspended payments komplektatoram ...

- Our customer for the RD-33MK - MMP Chernyshev, which is calculated RSK "MiG". Yes, the financing bad.

- The annual report of OAO Klimov "for 2008 indicated that the resource is the RD-33MK is only 300 hours, whereas before even TBO stated in 1 thousand hours ...

- Yes, TBO - 1 thousand hours, total - 4 thousand hours. Resource of 300 hours is sufficient for certifying the engine on the requirements of the Ministry of Defense. Next we will build a resource to those requirements which are at the customer. Given the lack of funding is not an easy job, but it is moving. With the advent of the new post of general director of RSK "MiG" Mikhail Pogosyan a plan for this work in the format required by management, weekly "Migulin" report to its implementation.

- Has time within which the development of RD-33MK to be completed?

- Terms defined, but you must understand that when creating a new technology every possible. Our task - to fulfill obligations to the customer. We will make it.

- Does "Klimov" is any work on the project creation engine for the PAK FA?

- Contract on the engine yet: after considering the demonstrators were still tender, not a head singer. Now go work associated with the establishment of scientific and technical reserve, and we are in line with the ideology, which defines the engineering center of the JDC, in which we participate. To say that we are deprived of something that I would like to participate to a greater extent - to date I am not.

- How is the funding TV7-117 engine for Il-112?

- We are committed to this program in the extent to which they may perform. Development of the aircraft was within the same R & D and the development of the engine - in the other. As a result, lacked the coordination to the development went in parallel. We are their obligations under the engine to perform, but, unfortunately, is not the whole power plant. There is the screw propeller is a system of governance. To date, considering the fact that all work together in one and keep it more coordinated. But in general aircraft demand in our armed forces, similar machines are in demand in the global market.

- The RD-93 engines, intended for the Sino-Pakistani fighter FC-1/JF-17, "Klimov" is now working to increase traction?

- Negotiations with China leads Rosoboronexport, correct to refer to it. To date, work in this direction is, I think that is correct, the project for the industry and from a political point of view very interesting. We believe that the Chinese plane, which is installed on this engine, not a competitor to our light fighter, he was quite a different class. Of course, we would like to keep things a bit faster, but there is a certain procedure approvals. Nevertheless, progress is now Rosoboronexport under contract. Terms of reference have been agreed. Support JDC has greatly contributed to the fact that this project move faster.

- When will the completed contract to supply China 100 RD-93 engines with a thrust of 8.3 tonnes, which was signed in 2005?

- Contract performs Chernyshev plant, so the question to them. It depends on many factors.

- Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation allowed re-RD-93 engines in six countries. Can China will soon be signed any more contracts for the FC-1 and, accordingly, re-RD-93?

- Expected future contracts there, but it deals with China. All small countries with small territories, which have the Air Force, gladly buy this aircraft.

- At one time discussed the possibility of the development, production and supply of engines in China VC-2500 VC-300 and BK-800 helicopter, planned to release the Chinese industry. This idea has evolved?

- China is working to create its own helicopter engine. A Rosoboronexport, we will be involved in solving certain problems that exist in China. This does not in any degree training, and participation, this R & D, but still only the first stage, when there is a project evaluation. At a later stage, Russia and China will determine whether it is a joint development, or it will not be shared. With the increase park Russian helicopters in China can carry on a conversation about how to organize it repairs and manufacture of engines. But it's interesting when a large fleet of helicopters, and whether to go to further increase in China, I can not say.

- "Helicopters of Russia have been negotiating on the assembly of the helicopter" MI "in China. The project deals with the assembly of Russian engines in China?

- Negotiations are all sorts, many of them. But mean it's not that they will end so that the project will be implemented. Each party assesses the extent it interesting. In addition, all this costs money, and substantial. And the Chinese believe they can.

- How is the development of engine EC-800?

- By BK-800 works now frozen, they were as enterprising. We expected that the engine will go to the light helicopter Ansat for the Defense Ministry, but so far from potential customers a clear movement in this direction no. In general, we are confident that the future is the motor, the motor rather modern, perhaps as a version for helicopters and for aircraft.

- Has undergone a change in your plans for the reorganization of space in connection with entering into RBC and the current general economic situation?

- U "Klimov" three sites: two with a total area of about 10 hectares are located close to the city center, in the Vyborg district. Here design bureau, an office building, part of the production. The third area of 15 hectares - in Shuvalovo. In our vision, the need to preserve the first two sites there. All production is expected to concentrate in Shuvalovo. We expect that the decision will be made before the end of this year, it will proceed from the concept development of new engine industry as a whole. The fact that there is no alternative that does not make sense include all three separate areas, but still almost in the center of the city, JDC recognize. It remains to determine the details and the configuration of the project. Our task - to convince the leadership of the JDC in the need to build a modern design of the complex, building sites, where you will develop a modern perspective engines.

- How soon such a complex could be built?

- I think a maximum of three years. With regard to the fate of the liberated territories, it would be for specialists. I think the JDC will find a company that will offer the most economically advantageous solution to the area used most effectively. Perhaps, this will be realized some other projects in which interested Oboronprom and Rostekhnologii. Moreover, it is because of the market situation is not the best time to benefit from these assets. By the time we moved to the third ground, sure, market conditions change.

- It turns out that for the construction of a new center on the third floor needed investment from the JDC?

- We already have our own project, which we will submit to the JDC. It does not require from the corporation direct financial support.

- That is going to borrow?

- We have clearly stated all the sources of investment. From JDC requires only a political solution. Depending on the configuration and the speed of the project the cost is estimated at around 4 billion rubles.

- What about after-sales service of products, including helicopter engines, what is the problem?

- With those who are engaged in legal business, we are trying to build a business, constructive relationship. With illegal firms are struggling with all permissible methods. If you take the whole entire service, including repairs, gray and poluserye schemes occupy no less than half the market. It is clear that to engage in serial service is very profitable, and therefore eliminate the counterfeit market is fully we can never. But the world is a fight counterfeiting, and we also deal with the matter.

第一，关于RD-93的情况， 目前已确认的事， 购买了100。

但是有疑点， 究竟是8.3吨推力还是9吨？


第二， 关于提供直升机发动机的情况， 总师说， TG决定自己研发， 目前还在初级项目评估阶段， 克里莫夫设计局将参与解决其中的一些问题。

下一阶段在决定是否共同研发。

目前还正在谈发动机维修和制造的一些问题。


第三，关于在中国组装米里直升机的谈判， 貌似这个总师对谈判结果不乐观阿。




关键问题节选：


- The RD-93 engines, intended for the Sino-Pakistani fighter FC-1/JF-17, "Klimov" is now working to increase traction?

- Negotiations with China leads Rosoboronexport, correct to refer to it. To date, work in this direction is, I think that is correct, the project for the industry and from a political point of view very interesting. We believe that the Chinese plane, which is installed on this engine, not a competitor to our light fighter, he was quite a different class. Of course, we would like to keep things a bit faster, but there is a certain procedure approvals. Nevertheless, progress is now Rosoboronexport under contract. Terms of reference have been agreed. Support JDC has greatly contributed to the fact that this project move faster.

- When will the completed contract to supply China 100 RD-93 engines with a thrust of 8.3 tonnes, which was signed in 2005?

- Contract performs Chernyshev plant, so the question to them. It depends on many factors.

- Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation allowed re-RD-93 engines in six countries. Can China will soon be signed any more contracts for the FC-1 and, accordingly, re-RD-93?

- Expected future contracts there, but it deals with China. All small countries with small territories, which have the Air Force, gladly buy this aircraft.

- At one time discussed the possibility of the development, production and supply of engines in China VC-2500 VC-300 and BK-800 helicopter, planned to release the Chinese industry. This idea has evolved?

- China is working to create its own helicopter engine. A Rosoboronexport, we will be involved in solving certain problems that exist in China. This does not in any degree training, and participation, this R & D, but still only the first stage, when there is a project evaluation. At a later stage, Russia and China will determine whether it is a joint development, or it will not be shared. With the increase park Russian helicopters in China can carry on a conversation about how to organize it repairs and manufacture of engines. But it's interesting when a large fleet of helicopters, and whether to go to further increase in China, I can not say.

- "Helicopters of Russia have been negotiating on the assembly of the helicopter" MI "in China. The project deals with the assembly of Russian engines in China?

- Negotiations are all sorts, many of them. But mean it's not that they will end so that the project will be implemented. Each party assesses the extent it interesting. In addition, all this costs money, and substantial. And the Chinese believe they can.




==============================================================



全文：



OAO Klimov, designer of engines for helicopters, the Mi and Ka, as well as engines for fighter aircraft "MiG", recently entered into the United engine-corporation-controlled Oboronprom. According to plans of the JDC, with the 2013 "Klimov" no longer will produce engines for helicopters. To learn how to guide "Klimov" sees its prospects in the JDC and the current projects the company "AviaPort" said executive director Alexander Vatagin.

- Like OAO Klimov "to build relations with the new engine of the Joint Corporation (JDC) after the transfer of the functions of the sole executive body? What questions remain in the competence of leadership "Klimov", which - at the JDC?

- This question can be three answers. You can tell how all the sweet, healthy and perfect. You can criticize. And you can not answer. I will choose the fourth option, and say that we at the beginning. Relationships are built properly, but they are exactly lined up. The fact that it is not just against the parent company and the individual subsidiaries. There is a construction holding company, therefore, to assess over the short time that we are in the JDC, in my view, premature. Conclusions worth doing in a year.

To date, fundamental changes to my competence as a leader did not happen, any rights I have no one took it, not cut. As in most integrated structures, "top", ie the level of RBC that left questions related to strategy, with budget money, to marketing, with the advance in the market. This is logical, since the management company is visible to the entire industry, not just the interests of one company.

- What place should take products "Klimov" in the model number of the JDC?

- JDC focuses on promising projects. It focuses on engines for the PAK FA, MS-21, engines for advanced helicopter. We are participating or will participate, I hope all future projects. But as the parent company - on a new helicopter engines. With regard to the current nomenclature Klimov turbojet as subjects, and turbo-prop, I think, compared to other businesses and industries in general, it takes in the model number JDC rightful place.

- At what stage is the development of the engine for advanced helicopter?

- This is a promising high-speed helicopter: now "Helicopters of Russia" form its shape and, accordingly, creating a vision and ideology of the engine for him. If in a nutshell, it must be dry electric motor.

- Do you work on high-speed helicopter with Mil Mil?

- His vision is like the Mil Helicopter Plant, and have KB Kamov. I think the final point - in 2011, when this work will be financed from the state budget. Now specialists "Helicopters of Russia" assess the market, look to overseas development. Because you can do superprodvinuty helicopter, but the market it will not be in demand. A Russian helicopter pilots to get into the best market, both for military and for the national economy.

- Where will be assembling an engine?

- To date, decided that the new production of JSC "Ufa Engine Industrial Association".

- JDC decided to organize production for the production of engines for helicopters in Ufa. In 2008, the production of engines for helicopters provided OAO Klimov, almost half of sales: 1.38 billion rubles for a total of 2.6 billion rubles. When the production of engines in 2013 will take place in Ufa, on what "Klimov" can earn?

- If we consider the company as a separate, not included into any integrated structure, then it is 100%-ing responsibility for their own financial well-being, finds lucrative contracts that allow him to live and grow. As part of an integrated structure, I think that the management company are properly distributed cash flows, and the sheep that were intact, and the wolves are hungry.

- That is "Klimov" will go into class subsidized businesses? For R & D of large deductions do not bring.

- We sent to JDC roadmap for three years, from 2010 to 2012 inclusive. Under this plan, we have everything in order. I think that this trend will continue.

- And what do you these three years for a planned?

- Planned movement and work on those areas of the enterprise on which it currently operates. It is the creation of new technology, selling production models, service and support operation. However, if now there was some subsidence on our core, the core activities - research and development, in terms of revenue contracts and purchase orders, we are planning growth in this area both by foreign customers, and due to the state budget. For serial production and service we should be increased.

- And what is the annual plan for the production of engines TV3-117 and CI-2500 to 2013?

- This will depend on orders from the needs of helicopter factories. We expect that the volume will increase. The production plan for 2009 - about 120 engines.

- What are the financial indicators "Klimov" ends in 2009?

- Definitely a profit. But, unfortunately, the state is not encouraged to work with a profit! If we operate at a profit, are not considered options for our state support, is questionable even for interest on bank loans. It is believed that in the position in which the "Klimov, we do not need this compensation. But this is absolutely not true. At a certain approach farming and losses can be, it also depends on how you spend. We need investment in tehperevoruzhenie, upgrade the technological base. You can, of course, is to spend their own money and as a result fall into a loss, but it will be grading, re-and serious, fundamental impact on the efficiency of it will not have. We have several years of drafting a comprehensive reconstruction of the company, so that by 2011-2012 to be prepared to work on promising engines. And this can be achieved only if the complex reconstruction, rather than a point. In financial terms, the amount of profit will depend very much on how our contractors will carry out its obligations.

But definitely this year we will finish with a profit, it is my job as manager. After all, why there is a joint stock company? For profit. If we do not get the profit, the company should be closed down.

- Forecast of revenues in the figure can be called?

- I think earnings will be higher than last year. But she very much will depend on the position of our partners - motors and aircraft construction enterprises, so I'm not prepared to give specific figures.

- How is the funding for the development of the engine for the MiG-35?

- To date, it is assumed that the MiG-35 will be used by power plant, as a ship's MiG-29K - RD-33MK. But it has yet to confirm the RAC "MiG". Maybe something will need to bring, odd jobs to offer MiG-35 more advanced version.

- According to information from other vendors RSK "MiG", in relation to their own financial situation, the corporation has suspended payments komplektatoram ...

- Our customer for the RD-33MK - MMP Chernyshev, which is calculated RSK "MiG". Yes, the financing bad.

- The annual report of OAO Klimov "for 2008 indicated that the resource is the RD-33MK is only 300 hours, whereas before even TBO stated in 1 thousand hours ...

- Yes, TBO - 1 thousand hours, total - 4 thousand hours. Resource of 300 hours is sufficient for certifying the engine on the requirements of the Ministry of Defense. Next we will build a resource to those requirements which are at the customer. Given the lack of funding is not an easy job, but it is moving. With the advent of the new post of general director of RSK "MiG" Mikhail Pogosyan a plan for this work in the format required by management, weekly "Migulin" report to its implementation.

- Has time within which the development of RD-33MK to be completed?

- Terms defined, but you must understand that when creating a new technology every possible. Our task - to fulfill obligations to the customer. We will make it.

- Does "Klimov" is any work on the project creation engine for the PAK FA?

- Contract on the engine yet: after considering the demonstrators were still tender, not a head singer. Now go work associated with the establishment of scientific and technical reserve, and we are in line with the ideology, which defines the engineering center of the JDC, in which we participate. To say that we are deprived of something that I would like to participate to a greater extent - to date I am not.

- How is the funding TV7-117 engine for Il-112?

- We are committed to this program in the extent to which they may perform. Development of the aircraft was within the same R & D and the development of the engine - in the other. As a result, lacked the coordination to the development went in parallel. We are their obligations under the engine to perform, but, unfortunately, is not the whole power plant. There is the screw propeller is a system of governance. To date, considering the fact that all work together in one and keep it more coordinated. But in general aircraft demand in our armed forces, similar machines are in demand in the global market.

- The RD-93 engines, intended for the Sino-Pakistani fighter FC-1/JF-17, "Klimov" is now working to increase traction?

- Negotiations with China leads Rosoboronexport, correct to refer to it. To date, work in this direction is, I think that is correct, the project for the industry and from a political point of view very interesting. We believe that the Chinese plane, which is installed on this engine, not a competitor to our light fighter, he was quite a different class. Of course, we would like to keep things a bit faster, but there is a certain procedure approvals. Nevertheless, progress is now Rosoboronexport under contract. Terms of reference have been agreed. Support JDC has greatly contributed to the fact that this project move faster.

- When will the completed contract to supply China 100 RD-93 engines with a thrust of 8.3 tonnes, which was signed in 2005?

- Contract performs Chernyshev plant, so the question to them. It depends on many factors.

- Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation allowed re-RD-93 engines in six countries. Can China will soon be signed any more contracts for the FC-1 and, accordingly, re-RD-93?

- Expected future contracts there, but it deals with China. All small countries with small territories, which have the Air Force, gladly buy this aircraft.

- At one time discussed the possibility of the development, production and supply of engines in China VC-2500 VC-300 and BK-800 helicopter, planned to release the Chinese industry. This idea has evolved?

- China is working to create its own helicopter engine. A Rosoboronexport, we will be involved in solving certain problems that exist in China. This does not in any degree training, and participation, this R & D, but still only the first stage, when there is a project evaluation. At a later stage, Russia and China will determine whether it is a joint development, or it will not be shared. With the increase park Russian helicopters in China can carry on a conversation about how to organize it repairs and manufacture of engines. But it's interesting when a large fleet of helicopters, and whether to go to further increase in China, I can not say.

- "Helicopters of Russia have been negotiating on the assembly of the helicopter" MI "in China. The project deals with the assembly of Russian engines in China?

- Negotiations are all sorts, many of them. But mean it's not that they will end so that the project will be implemented. Each party assesses the extent it interesting. In addition, all this costs money, and substantial. And the Chinese believe they can.

- How is the development of engine EC-800?

- By BK-800 works now frozen, they were as enterprising. We expected that the engine will go to the light helicopter Ansat for the Defense Ministry, but so far from potential customers a clear movement in this direction no. In general, we are confident that the future is the motor, the motor rather modern, perhaps as a version for helicopters and for aircraft.

- Has undergone a change in your plans for the reorganization of space in connection with entering into RBC and the current general economic situation?

- U "Klimov" three sites: two with a total area of about 10 hectares are located close to the city center, in the Vyborg district. Here design bureau, an office building, part of the production. The third area of 15 hectares - in Shuvalovo. In our vision, the need to preserve the first two sites there. All production is expected to concentrate in Shuvalovo. We expect that the decision will be made before the end of this year, it will proceed from the concept development of new engine industry as a whole. The fact that there is no alternative that does not make sense include all three separate areas, but still almost in the center of the city, JDC recognize. It remains to determine the details and the configuration of the project. Our task - to convince the leadership of the JDC in the need to build a modern design of the complex, building sites, where you will develop a modern perspective engines.

- How soon such a complex could be built?

- I think a maximum of three years. With regard to the fate of the liberated territories, it would be for specialists. I think the JDC will find a company that will offer the most economically advantageous solution to the area used most effectively. Perhaps, this will be realized some other projects in which interested Oboronprom and Rostekhnologii. Moreover, it is because of the market situation is not the best time to benefit from these assets. By the time we moved to the third ground, sure, market conditions change.

- It turns out that for the construction of a new center on the third floor needed investment from the JDC?

- We already have our own project, which we will submit to the JDC. It does not require from the corporation direct financial support.

- That is going to borrow?

- We have clearly stated all the sources of investment. From JDC requires only a political solution. Depending on the configuration and the speed of the project the cost is estimated at around 4 billion rubles.

- What about after-sales service of products, including helicopter engines, what is the problem?

- With those who are engaged in legal business, we are trying to build a business, constructive relationship. With illegal firms are struggling with all permissible methods. If you take the whole entire service, including repairs, gray and poluserye schemes occupy no less than half the market. It is clear that to engage in serial service is very profitable, and therefore eliminate the counterfeit market is fully we can never. But the world is a fight counterfeiting, and we also deal with the matter.