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偶然间在一个关于藏南的帖子中看到了cheMM贴出的一位中国网友与印度网友的聊天记录。
细看之下非常震惊,因为从那个转贴中,我发现自己对于印度了解得非常之少。印度到底是一个什么样的国家,这是现在我心中升腾的一个巨大的问题。
就我从转贴看到的,印度不仅存在种性制度,而且在其内部还存在着巨大的种族压迫。这种压迫的根基就是印度教。所以我对印度与中国的关系,有了比较悲观的结论,即印度可能是以种族的观点,来看待与中国人的关系。他们将种姓的视野移到了处理国与国的关系中,是非常有可能的。所以是否存在中印友好,这是一个巨大的问号。
一点浅见,望大家不吝拍转。
PS,关于另一问题,即印度东北的种族、民族问题,似乎与TG也有着非比寻常的关系,不知有哪位能给出这方面的资料。谢谢。
以下附上转贴内容,

与印度东北部网友的对话
http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/worldlook/1/208707.shtml

        CCC:hi you are there?
  哈,你在啊。
  CCC:thank God.... how are you?
  怎样兄弟?
  
  Me:nice to meet you
  很高兴见到你
  Me:i am good,hehe
  我还好。
  Me:is communist your friend?
  你是共产主义者的朋友吗?
  
  CCC:yes I am a communist.... or you can say a Maoist...
  是的,我是共产主义者,或者你可以说是毛派。
  
  Me:something you cann’t belive,China college are not better than Indian
  有些事情你可能想象不到,中国的大学还没印度的好。
  
  CCC:really? why so?
  真的吗?为啥?
  
  Me:forgive me,sometime i must look up dictionary,but i will type as quickly as i can
  不好意思,有时候我要查字典,不过我会尽可能的打字快点。
  
  CCC:i understand ... do not worry.... its ok...
  we are not anglo saxons...
  我理解,
  我们不是英国人
  
  Me:for many reasons,in fact,it’s passionately discussed in China now,
  i think the government may take great effort on this issue
  因为很多原因,实际上中国人现在正在很激烈的讨论这个问题。
  我想政府正在下大力气解决这个问题。
  
  CCC:is the chinese govt corrupt..?
  中国政府腐败吗?
  
  Me:yes,in some case
  是的,有些情况下
  
  CCC:Mao would have become very disappointed....
  老毛会很失望的。
  
  Me:something he couldn’t predict
  有些事情他预测不到。
  
  CCC:yes.. you are right..
  是的
  
  Me:but he leave us a powful organization to conquer everything if in need.
  不过他留给我们一个强大的组织来解决任何事情,如果需要的话
  
  CCC:ok... that is what Mao contributed to China...
  是的,这就是老毛对中国的贡献。
  
  Me:i think that is the greatest thing he did for us
  我想这是他最伟大的贡献。
  
  CCC:yes... the greatest one... that even Lenin could not do..
  是的,最伟大的,列宁也逊色于此。
  
  Me:maybe,but Lenin is great also
  is there many people like you believe in communist?
  也许吧,不过列宁也很伟大。
  你们有很多人信仰毛泽东思想吗?
  
  CCC:Yes.. I respect Lenin... but Mao is better than Lenin... because Mao liberated the Chinese women...
  Mao said women constitute half of the sky... so women must be free to get total freedom...
  I like Chinese women.. they are very efficient and great...
  是的,我尊敬列宁,不过老毛比他更牛,他解放了中国的妇女。
  老毛说妇女能顶半边天,所以妇女必须得到彻底的解放。
  我喜欢中国的女性,她们是勤劳伟大的。
  
  Me:yes,women,peasants,works,he liberate them all
  most of them are good
  是的,妇女,农民,工人,他全都解放了。
  大多数中国妇女是好的。(说这话有点心虚)
  
  CCC:I do not like Caucasian women... they are sick people... In india the whole North Eastern parts have all Mongoloid people...
  我不喜欢白种女人,她们不好,在印度整个东北部都是黄种人。
  
  Me:really?
  真的吗?
  
  CCC:the Nagas, the Bodos, the Khasis, the Manipuris, Assamese, Gurkhas, and many others are Mongoloids..
  那加人、Bodos人,Khasis人,曼尼普尔人,阿萨姆人,廓尔喀人,很多很多都是黄种人。
  
  Me:look like Nepali?
  像尼泊尔人?
  
  CCC:To some extent...
  But the brown Caucasians have subjugated us... and we are still colonized...
  in Nagaland the Mongoloid people are still resisting the Hindu Caucasian forces...
  so i was telling you about those helpless poor Mongoloids.... of India...
  there are seven states... called seven sisters...
  某种程度上
  但是白种人压制了我们,我们仍然被殖民统治。
  在那加兰,黄种人仍旧在抵抗印度白种人的军队。
  我正在告诉你关于那些无助的印度黄种人的事情。
  那里有七个邦,称作“七姐妹”。
  
  CCC:you know the Indian caste system is actually racism... diplomatic racism...
  你知道印度的种姓制度吧
  
  Me:is that improve anyway
  这方面有什么进步吗?
  
  CCC:there will never be any chance to improve their condition without armed rebellion...
  that is why the indian state machinary ia thinking of killing all these austrics by brutal force..
  india is not democratic...
  believe me...
  除了革命,没有什么能改进这个问题。
  这就是为什么印度国家机器想用暴力杀掉所有这些土著黑人
  印度不是个民主国家
  相信我
  
  Me:sound difficult in recent years
  这年头(革命)看起来不太靠谱啊。
  
  CCC:i can say there will be violent bloodshed and civil wars in india in the coming years...
  我敢说,不久的将来印度会有流血暴力和内战
  
  Me:how could their voice be heard by world?
  怎样让世界听到他们的声音呢?
  
  CCC:well, their voice is not heard by the world because media houses are run by Caucasians
  and they deliberately suppress the news and incidents
  他们的声音是不会被世界知道的,因为媒体都掌握在白人手里。
  他们故意压制新闻和事件
  
  CCC:the total north eastern part of India is traditionally Chinese I can say...
  我敢说,整个印度东北传统上应该属于华夏
  
  Me:yes,maybe Chinese are ancient men go out of that region
  是的,可能远古中国人是从这个地区走出来的一支
  
  CCC:i will send you some histories of the north east later and you will be surprised to know that China was much bigger than what we know today
  hindu caucasians deceitfully captured all lands...
  我会给你些历史资料关于印度东北部的,你会惊奇的发现华夏比我们今天知道的范围要大多了。
  印度白人靠欺骗占有了所有土地。
  
  Me:speak about DNA,Hans are close relative of Tibet
  从DNA来看,汉族和藏族是近亲。
  
  CCC:yes.. i know... ...
  the indo is later added
  是的,我知道
  印度白人是后来者
  
  Me:so,we are brothers indeed
  所以我们是真兄弟
  
  CCC:yes... i told you that before... our gene is all the same...
  是的,我跟你说过,我们血脉相同。
  
  Me:yes,brother
  是的,兄弟
  
  CCC:thank you..... do you know the genetic identity of the Burmese and the Thai people...?
  i think they are mixed...
  谢谢,你知道缅甸和泰国人血统吗?我想到他们是混血的。
  
  Me:i don’t know Burmese,but some Thai are come from South China
  Me:the had been a nation in south china,but they are defeated by Monglia,and they go to Thai
  我不了解缅甸,不过泰国人一部分是从中国南部迁徙过来的。
  曾经有个国家在中国南方,被蒙古人灭国了(大理),他们就迁徙到了泰国。
  
  CCC:yes it is due to the intiative of Chenghiz Khan that the Mongoloid race has been so well spread
  是的,从成吉思汗开始,蒙古人种传播很远。偶然间在一个关于藏南的帖子中看到了cheMM贴出的一位中国网友与印度网友的聊天记录。
细看之下非常震惊,因为从那个转贴中,我发现自己对于印度了解得非常之少。印度到底是一个什么样的国家,这是现在我心中升腾的一个巨大的问题。
就我从转贴看到的,印度不仅存在种性制度,而且在其内部还存在着巨大的种族压迫。这种压迫的根基就是印度教。所以我对印度与中国的关系,有了比较悲观的结论,即印度可能是以种族的观点,来看待与中国人的关系。他们将种姓的视野移到了处理国与国的关系中,是非常有可能的。所以是否存在中印友好,这是一个巨大的问号。
一点浅见,望大家不吝拍转。
PS,关于另一问题,即印度东北的种族、民族问题,似乎与TG也有着非比寻常的关系,不知有哪位能给出这方面的资料。谢谢。
以下附上转贴内容,

与印度东北部网友的对话
http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/worldlook/1/208707.shtml

        CCC:hi you are there?
  哈,你在啊。
  CCC:thank God.... how are you?
  怎样兄弟?
  
  Me:nice to meet you
  很高兴见到你
  Me:i am good,hehe
  我还好。
  Me:is communist your friend?
  你是共产主义者的朋友吗?
  
  CCC:yes I am a communist.... or you can say a Maoist...
  是的,我是共产主义者,或者你可以说是毛派。
  
  Me:something you cann’t belive,China college are not better than Indian
  有些事情你可能想象不到,中国的大学还没印度的好。
  
  CCC:really? why so?
  真的吗?为啥?
  
  Me:forgive me,sometime i must look up dictionary,but i will type as quickly as i can
  不好意思,有时候我要查字典,不过我会尽可能的打字快点。
  
  CCC:i understand ... do not worry.... its ok...
  we are not anglo saxons...
  我理解,
  我们不是英国人
  
  Me:for many reasons,in fact,it’s passionately discussed in China now,
  i think the government may take great effort on this issue
  因为很多原因,实际上中国人现在正在很激烈的讨论这个问题。
  我想政府正在下大力气解决这个问题。
  
  CCC:is the chinese govt corrupt..?
  中国政府腐败吗?
  
  Me:yes,in some case
  是的,有些情况下
  
  CCC:Mao would have become very disappointed....
  老毛会很失望的。
  
  Me:something he couldn’t predict
  有些事情他预测不到。
  
  CCC:yes.. you are right..
  是的
  
  Me:but he leave us a powful organization to conquer everything if in need.
  不过他留给我们一个强大的组织来解决任何事情,如果需要的话
  
  CCC:ok... that is what Mao contributed to China...
  是的,这就是老毛对中国的贡献。
  
  Me:i think that is the greatest thing he did for us
  我想这是他最伟大的贡献。
  
  CCC:yes... the greatest one... that even Lenin could not do..
  是的,最伟大的,列宁也逊色于此。
  
  Me:maybe,but Lenin is great also
  is there many people like you believe in communist?
  也许吧,不过列宁也很伟大。
  你们有很多人信仰毛泽东思想吗?
  
  CCC:Yes.. I respect Lenin... but Mao is better than Lenin... because Mao liberated the Chinese women...
  Mao said women constitute half of the sky... so women must be free to get total freedom...
  I like Chinese women.. they are very efficient and great...
  是的,我尊敬列宁,不过老毛比他更牛,他解放了中国的妇女。
  老毛说妇女能顶半边天,所以妇女必须得到彻底的解放。
  我喜欢中国的女性,她们是勤劳伟大的。
  
  Me:yes,women,peasants,works,he liberate them all
  most of them are good
  是的,妇女,农民,工人,他全都解放了。
  大多数中国妇女是好的。(说这话有点心虚)
  
  CCC:I do not like Caucasian women... they are sick people... In india the whole North Eastern parts have all Mongoloid people...
  我不喜欢白种女人,她们不好,在印度整个东北部都是黄种人。
  
  Me:really?
  真的吗?
  
  CCC:the Nagas, the Bodos, the Khasis, the Manipuris, Assamese, Gurkhas, and many others are Mongoloids..
  那加人、Bodos人,Khasis人,曼尼普尔人,阿萨姆人,廓尔喀人,很多很多都是黄种人。
  
  Me:look like Nepali?
  像尼泊尔人?
  
  CCC:To some extent...
  But the brown Caucasians have subjugated us... and we are still colonized...
  in Nagaland the Mongoloid people are still resisting the Hindu Caucasian forces...
  so i was telling you about those helpless poor Mongoloids.... of India...
  there are seven states... called seven sisters...
  某种程度上
  但是白种人压制了我们,我们仍然被殖民统治。
  在那加兰,黄种人仍旧在抵抗印度白种人的军队。
  我正在告诉你关于那些无助的印度黄种人的事情。
  那里有七个邦,称作“七姐妹”。
  
  CCC:you know the Indian caste system is actually racism... diplomatic racism...
  你知道印度的种姓制度吧
  
  Me:is that improve anyway
  这方面有什么进步吗?
  
  CCC:there will never be any chance to improve their condition without armed rebellion...
  that is why the indian state machinary ia thinking of killing all these austrics by brutal force..
  india is not democratic...
  believe me...
  除了革命,没有什么能改进这个问题。
  这就是为什么印度国家机器想用暴力杀掉所有这些土著黑人
  印度不是个民主国家
  相信我
  
  Me:sound difficult in recent years
  这年头(革命)看起来不太靠谱啊。
  
  CCC:i can say there will be violent bloodshed and civil wars in india in the coming years...
  我敢说,不久的将来印度会有流血暴力和内战
  
  Me:how could their voice be heard by world?
  怎样让世界听到他们的声音呢?
  
  CCC:well, their voice is not heard by the world because media houses are run by Caucasians
  and they deliberately suppress the news and incidents
  他们的声音是不会被世界知道的,因为媒体都掌握在白人手里。
  他们故意压制新闻和事件
  
  CCC:the total north eastern part of India is traditionally Chinese I can say...
  我敢说,整个印度东北传统上应该属于华夏
  
  Me:yes,maybe Chinese are ancient men go out of that region
  是的,可能远古中国人是从这个地区走出来的一支
  
  CCC:i will send you some histories of the north east later and you will be surprised to know that China was much bigger than what we know today
  hindu caucasians deceitfully captured all lands...
  我会给你些历史资料关于印度东北部的,你会惊奇的发现华夏比我们今天知道的范围要大多了。
  印度白人靠欺骗占有了所有土地。
  
  Me:speak about DNA,Hans are close relative of Tibet
  从DNA来看,汉族和藏族是近亲。
  
  CCC:yes.. i know... ...
  the indo is later added
  是的,我知道
  印度白人是后来者
  
  Me:so,we are brothers indeed
  所以我们是真兄弟
  
  CCC:yes... i told you that before... our gene is all the same...
  是的,我跟你说过,我们血脉相同。
  
  Me:yes,brother
  是的,兄弟
  
  CCC:thank you..... do you know the genetic identity of the Burmese and the Thai people...?
  i think they are mixed...
  谢谢,你知道缅甸和泰国人血统吗?我想到他们是混血的。
  
  Me:i don’t know Burmese,but some Thai are come from South China
  Me:the had been a nation in south china,but they are defeated by Monglia,and they go to Thai
  我不了解缅甸,不过泰国人一部分是从中国南部迁徙过来的。
  曾经有个国家在中国南方,被蒙古人灭国了(大理),他们就迁徙到了泰国。
  
  CCC:yes it is due to the intiative of Chenghiz Khan that the Mongoloid race has been so well spread
  是的,从成吉思汗开始,蒙古人种传播很远。
续一:
CCC:you see, bollywood and cricket and all other indian panorama do not represent the Mongoloid race...
  我明白,宝莱坞和什么以及所有的印度传媒都不会描述黄种人的。
  
  CCC:ok... i can say all the slight physical variations are due to mixing of blood... but on the whole we all the same..
  是的,我想细微的差别是因为混血,整体来说我们是同族。
  
  CCC:yes... and what is China’s policy regarding the Indian mongoloids who are still colonized... ?
  中国对于被压迫的印度黄种人的政策是什么呢?
  
  Me:think about Nepali,you would know the policy
  想想尼泊尔,你就会明白中国的政策。
  
  CCC:as for the nepalese... i think ther are mixed
  with Caucasian and Mongoloid blood....
  you see, nepal used to be the only hindu country ...
  关于尼泊尔人,我想他们也是混血。
  白人和黄种人的混血
  你知道,尼泊尔曾经是唯印度教国家。
  
  Me:for some degree ,yes
  某种程度上,是的
  
  CCC:but they have understand thet hindu is not their identity and so they are now Maoist
  不过现在他们明白印度教不是他们所要的了,他们现在变成了毛派。
  what is that term indu imply?
  Hindu derived frim Indu...
  
  Me:I heard that they are vassal state of Tibet
  我听说他们曾经是吐蕃帝国的属国。
  
  CCC:yes nepal was a vassal state of Tibet and so Nepal had links with China and not india...
  religion cannot be the judge of history
  hindu caucasians are very clever
  they first spread their hindu mystic religion and then
  later claim that the land which is hindu dominated is indian
  是的,尼泊尔曾经是吐蕃帝国的属国,所以他们是中国一系的,不属于印度。
  宗教不能成为历史传承的标竿。
  印度白人很狡猾。
  他们先传播他们的印度神秘宗教
  然后,他们宣称印度教的地盘就是印度的地盘。
  
  Me:we are more clever ,haha
  我们更狡猾,哈哈
  
  CCC: yes, ... i agree wholeheartedly...
  没错,我举双手赞成。
  
  CCC:thus they occupied all the lands of northern india....
  they could not do so in bhutan and nepal...
  由此他们占据了北印度的所有土地。
  他们在不丹和尼泊尔做不到这点。
  
  Me:we are peaceful before
  我们以前比较和平。
  
  CCC:we are peaceful but you see those Caucasians are not peaceful.... they invaded Vietnam... but see the glory of mongoloid blood vietnam punched the Ameriacns
  我们是和平,可你看到了白人可不和平,他们侵略越南,看看美国大兵怎样玷污越南人的。
  
  Me:yes
  是的
  
  CCC:we must not forget our history, because if we forget, tomorrow our geography will change
  我们不能忘记我们的历史,如果我们忘记了,明天我们的地盘就变色了。
  
  Me:they can never perish history
  他们永远也不能消灭历史。
  
  CCC:And also we should not allow our women to marry caucasians.... because today many casucasians marry our women and pollute our blood...
  we need to counter them by marrying their women also
  so that we can mongolize with equal effect
  otherwise will be an extinct race
  like the Red Indians of America and Austroloids of Australia
  所以我们不能允许我们的女人和白人结婚,因为现在很多白人和我们的女人结婚,玷污了我们的血统。(汗,我持保留意见,如果为爱情结婚我是可以理解的)
  反过来我们应该和他们的女人结婚。
  这样我们就能和他们达到平衡
  否则种族会被灭绝。
  就像美洲印第安人和澳洲土著一样。
  
  Me:yes,America Indians,what a massacre
  是啊,美洲印度安人,大屠杀。
  
  Me:but you must perish casty system at first
  我们应该先消灭种姓制度
  
  CCC:none can perish the caste system as long as there will survive the Hinduism
  没人能消灭种姓制度只要印度教还存在
  
  CCC:let me tell you what the caste system is...
  Hindusim is like Confucianism...
  its a poison..
  if you become a hindu, you need to be ascribed a certain social ranking
  according to your physical feature and occupation...
  now if you do not belong to the catse then you are not a hindu at all
  you must have a caste idenity if you are a hindu
  我告诉你什么是种姓制度,印度教像儒教。(我保留意见,他恐怕不太了解儒教)
  这是一种毒药,如果你成为印度教徒,你就被赋予某个社会阶级的角色。
  根据你的外貌特征和职业。
  如果你不属于某个阶级,你就完全不是印度教徒,
  如果你是印度教徒,你必须有个种姓标志
  
  CCC:the or Hindu Caucasians once offered the british or english people to become hindus..
  and offered them the caste identity Sakya Seni rajput...
  the English however rejected the offer...
  婆罗门和印度白人曾经想给予英国人印度教角色
  给予他们高种姓身份
  英国人拒绝了
  i know the history of confucianism... hinduism is worse than that...
  我知道儒教的历史,印度教比儒教更坏。
  
  Me:that is bad,confucianisn is peaceful
  harmony is the core idea of Confucianism
  真糟糕,儒教是平和的
  和谐是儒教思想的核心
  
  CCC:but hinduism is not peaceful at all.... and there is no harmony... they burn their dead bodies.... widows... practice dowry system... all the gods hold fatal weapons in their hands...
  印度教一点也不平和,没有和谐,他们烧他们的尸体、寡妇,嫁妆制度(注,印度和中国截然相反,中国人结婚大头是男方出彩礼,印度人结婚大头是女方出嫁妆,昂贵的嫁妆折磨的印度女方家庭很苦),所有的神都拿着可怕的兵器。
  
  Me:so,our saint is clever than their’s at all
  所以,我方的圣人比他们的聪明多了
  
  CCC:yes...
  he he he
  and above all hindus are racists...
  they call the Mongoloid people Chinkis....
  because they dont look like them...
  是啊,哈哈哈,除了以上,印度教是种族主义歧视的。
  他们把黄种人称为Chinkis,因为他们不喜欢
  
  Me:but Confucianism said it’s honorable to fight unfair
  儒教认为反抗非正义是光荣的。
  
  CCC:in hinduism Kautilya was there who said ahy unfair attemt to destry the enemy is valid
  and another notorious racist Hindu preacher is Manu... who ordered the Caucasians to kill all other races....
  i will send you the Manusmritic propaganda...
  印度教的老K说什么什么非正义的消灭敌人是正当的
  另外一个臭名昭著的印度教大牛老M,他号召白种人杀死所以其他种族。
  
  Me:so,they are enemy of people and god
  那么,他们就是人民和天理的敌人
  
  CCC:yes... if you stay a few days with the hindus in india you will see how hostile the hindus are to other races...
  but they are very clever and they use their media to send some false wrong message to the world
  the western people are now collectively coming to india and get converted to hinduism...
  是啊,如果你跟印度教徒呆在一起几天,你就会看到印度教对其他种族是多么的敌视了。
  但是他们非常狡猾,他们用他们的媒体散布错误的信息到全世界。
  
  Me:Mao alway emphise on Propaganda as well as fight
  老毛总是强调宣传和斗争一样重要。
  
  CCC:they will be victimized soon...
  we must build up counter propaganda....
  他们就要欺骗了
  我们需要建立与之针锋相对的宣传力量。
  
  Me:yes
  Mao said,who fight focous on fight,who proganda focous on proganda
  是啊
  老毛说过,打的只管打,谈的只管谈。
  
  CCC:and today after the Jewish-American lobby, there is Indian-American lobby...
  do not forget the betrayal the Hindus did in 1962
  Nehru had told hindi-chini bhai-bhai but later ordered the indian army to push forward...
  除了现在的以色列-美国联盟,印度和美国也滚到一起去了。
  不要忘记1962年印度教的背叛
  尼赫鲁曾经说过中国印度一家人啥啥的,后来他却命令军队前进。
  
  Me:we always watch them
  我们一直警惕他们
  
  CCC:and Saitan Singh another bastard killed all the Chinese prisoners of war brutally...
  Saitan Singh was an indian army officer
  还有老S这个婊子养的残暴的杀死了所以的中国战俘。
  老S是印度高级将领
  
  Me:a devil
  魔鬼
  
  CCC:yes... China later released all the Indian war of Prisoners....
  but if it had been india in stead of China, it would have never do that...
  China also returned all the captured tanks and weapons...
  to india...
  Indian wanted to capture Tibet as a buffer state...
  still india is giving shelter to the Tibetan conspirator Dalai Lama...
  now india is planning to rebuild Akhanda Bharat or greater India which includes Tibet...
  是的,中国后来释放了所有中印战争中的战俘,
  如果是印度的话,他们压根不会有这么好
  印度想拿西藏作为他们的缓冲国
  印度仍然给予达赖这个叛徒隐藏所
  现在印度计划建立包括西藏的大印度帝国
  
  Me:I know,dalai lama is a turncoat
  haha,let them come,and lose another war
  我知道,达赖是个叛徒
  哈哈,让他们来,再胖揍他们一顿。
  
  CCC:Dalai Lama was a dictator... he forced his blind subjects to eat his dried shits... can you imagine?
  yes.... I know indians cannot fight the Chinese red army...
  but india is seeking help from America...
  达赖是个独裁者,他强迫他的瞎子被试者(是否类似日军731部队的“马路达”)吃他风干的屎,你能想象吗?
  是的,你知道,印度人是打不过红色中国的军队的
  不过印度在寻求美国的帮助
  
  Me:I know in some degree,mao had try to comfort him,but he is not very smart indeed
  我知道一些,老毛曾经试着安抚他,不过达赖可不怎么聪明。
  
  CCC:yes.... in 1962 india sought American help....
  是的,1962年印度就寻求美国帮助了
  
  Me:without US,they cann’t even think it
  没有美国帮助他们想都不敢于想。
  
  CCC:why should you seek another western aggressor country’s help if you cant fight alone?
  yes American whites are the illegitimate fathers of indians...
  india is a sanke in south Asia...
  就是啊,居然找另外一个西方侵略者帮忙,有种单挑啊。
  美国白人是印度人的干爹,
  印度是南亚的蛇
  
  Me:US and USSR all back up India in 1962,they are all loser
  美国和苏联在1962年都支持了印度,他们仨都是失败者。
  
  CCC:it always try to prosper at the cost of other neighbouring countries...
  yes... that is why I do not trust Russia... though Russia helped China in some cases...
  他们总是想通过损害邻居使自己发达
  是啊,我不太信任俄国,虽然俄国也曾经帮助过中国。
  
  Me:but this make them forget the strongth of themselves
  depending is deveil in mao’s eyes
  不过这样他们就忘记了应该依靠自己的力量,
  依赖就是毒药,在老毛眼里
  
  CCC:one of our traitor is Japan... and Japan paid for what Japan did in nanking...
  you know in Japan the society is breaking down... the Jap family system is declining....
  because Japan blindly followed its master the west...
  我们还有一个叛徒是日本,日本为南京大屠杀付出了他们的代价
  你知道日本社会在走下坡路,日本家庭系统在减少,
  因为他们盲目的听从他们的主人西方
  
  Me:they are under the power of US,poor nation,but they are evil if they don’t self-reflection
  we can take care of Japan if there are no US,haha
  他们处于美国的占领下,可怜的国家,如果他们不反省的话他们还是邪恶的。
  如果没有美国,我们可以“照顾”好日本。哈哈
  
  CCC:this US is the curse on this planet.... everywhere they do whatever they want to do... now US is planning to encircle China.... with the help of India...
  never trust these snakes... if we trust them they will bite us...
  美国是这个星球的毒瘤,每个地方他们想做什么就做什么,现在美国企图包围中国,在印度的帮助下。
  永远不要相信蛇,如果我们相信它,它就会咬我们
  
  Me:but they are in trouble now,haha
  不过他们现在有麻烦了,哈哈

 CCC:yes... thats very good...
  can US pay the debt to China?
  是啊,很好
  美国还的起中国的债务吗?
  
  Me:haha
  their leader is a black now,let’s watch what will happen
  哈哈,
  他们现在有个黑人领导人,让我们看看会发生什么事情。
  
  CCC:yes... this is indeed an opportunity to do favor to ourselves... ha ha
  that black can do nothing magical....
  是啊,这对我们是好机会,哈哈
  黑人是变不出魔术的
  
  Me:some Chinese bet Obama would be assassinated in this years
  一些中国人打赌奥巴马会被暗杀
  
  CCC:i guess so.... like Kenedy...
  yes... if it ever happens then there will be a political turmoil... and China should cash that situtaion...
  我猜也是,像肯尼迪
  是啊,如果这样的事情发生了,他们就会发生政治骚乱,中国才能平衡局势。
  
  Me:maybe Mexico, Venezuela,Cube will rise in some degree
  可能墨西哥的地位在某种程度上会提升
  
  CCC:yes Mexico and Venezuela.... they are oppressed by US economic aggression...
  yes... ha ha ... this is very crucial time we have now... very interesting...
  do you have any influence in Chinese political environment?
  是啊,墨西哥和委内瑞拉,他们一直被美国的经济侵略压制
  是啊,哈哈,这是个非常关键的时期,很有意思
  你在中国有政治影响力吗
  
  Me:no,I’m common citizen
  没有,我是普通公民
  
  CCC:me too... well but are you not interested in politics?
  我也是,你不是对政治很感兴趣吗?
  
  Me:there are thousands of citizens like me in China
  in fact,I like history most
  we care about out nation,and love our nation,and will discuss something important automatically
  在中国有成千上万像我这样的人
  实际上,我更喜欢历史
  我们关心我们的国家,爱我们的国家,我们会自动的对一些重要的事情进行讨论。
  
  CCC:really...? how nice..!! you are very lucky...
  真的吗?很好,你真是幸运
  
  Me:yes,I think so,but there are many people really better than me,make me envy.haha
  是啊,我也这样认为,不过确实有很多人比我更强,让我嫉妒,哈哈。
  
  CCC:ok... ha ha ha....
  哈哈
  
  CCC:ok... its natural.... yes then you can at least write some articles on history ....
  so that those articles can create a mass reaction .....
  好,你至少可以写些历史方面的文章
  这些文章可以对大众产生一些影响
  
  Me:what about you language,I mean spoken by masses
  are the seven sisters use same language?
  你们用什么语言,我是说你们的人民大众
  “七姐妹”用的是同样的语言吗?
  
  CCC:yes ... india is mutilingual... though the official language is Hindi, a baby of Sanskrit....
  no... they do not even use the Indian national flag...
  是,印度是多语言的,虽然官方语言是印地语,梵文的小宝宝。
  不,他们甚至不用印度国旗(参考台湾)
  
  Me:what
  啥
  
  CCC:they do not speak any aryan language...
  yes you do not know man...
  thats what i was telling you man....
  they have parallel government system....
  they have their own government which does not belong to the indian governemtn...
  他们不说雅利安语言
  是的,你不知道这些
  这些就是我要告诉你的,朋友
  他们有平行的政府系统
  他们有自己的政府,不属于印度政府。
  
  Me:how about taxation
  税收呢?
  
  CCC:well, that is also clooected by their own government and army.... the naga army is not indian army....
  for example...
  也是由他们的政府和军队征收,那加军队不是印度军队。
  
  Me:interesting
  有点意思
  
  CCC:i mean the tax was collected by their own govt officials....
  still the tax is collected that way...
  我是说,税收是由他们自己的政府官员征收。
  现在还是这样
  
  Me:how much would they send to Indian government
  他们要上交多少给印度政府呢
  
  CCC:they have to send some amount.... but indian govt cannot force them to give more.... and if you go to Ngaland for example, you will notice an indian govt office and a Naga govt office standing side by6 side
  actually India tried to capture the Nagaland territory killing thousands of Mongoloids.... but they failed and declared a ceasefire...
  in Manipur, that is also same....
  you can hear some insurgent activities in Assam also.... frequent bobm blasts and all these types of acts...
  so North east is like second Kashmir...
  North East is not India....
  its only occupied by India......
  他们不得不上交一部分,不过印度政府榨取不了更多,如果你去那加兰邦,你会发现印度政府办公楼和那加政府办公楼比肩而立。
  在曼尼普尔邦,也是一样的,
  你在阿萨姆邦还会听到起义运动,经常性的爆炸事件或者类似事件
  所以,东北部和克什米尔一样,
  东北部是不属于印度的。
  它只是被印度占领
  
  CCC:yes... but in Manipur a one of our women, Manorama Thangzham was brutally raped by indian army and them they shot several bullets from AK 47 to her vagina so that there would be no forensic investigation....
  but all our women protested that by making a naked rally in front of the indian army barrack...
  是的,在曼尼普尔邦,一个我们的妇女小M被印度军队残暴的强奸了,然后他们向她的阴道射入几颗AK47子弹,这样就不用担心法院调查了。
  但是我们的妇女抗议此事,她们举行了裸体集会在印度军营前面。
  
  Me:devil indeed,I should tell Chinese about that
  真正的魔鬼,我会告诉中国人这些事情
  
  CCC:in india our brothers are the most victimized people... nobody can hear their voice... and that is why ia ma so angry with the indian state
  please write about it... tell them.... it will form a mass mobilization....
  i will send you every material i get....
  在印度,我们的兄弟是最可怜的人民,没有人能听到他们的声音,这就是为什么我对印度政府非常愤怒。
  请你告诉他们,这样会形成人民运动
  我会送你所有我拥有的材料。
  
  Me:are you safe for send this to me
  你这样做是安全的吗?
  
  CCC:well... the Raw is very notorious.... I know... but I will use internet and also I will try to visit China once.... I must do something.... this is my duty....
  If indians kill me, i will be a martyr....
  材料是很臭名昭著的,我知道,我会使用网络,我会找机会去中国看看。我必须做些事情,这是我的责任
  如果印度人杀了我,我就成为烈士
  
  Me:I mean i am safe,are you going to be arrested if they know about what you did
  我是说,我在这儿是安全的,你会因为你做的这些事情被捕吗?
  
  CCC:but someone has to pay for it....
  they will not only arrest me, they will execute me by a fake encounter as they always do.... but if i dont do this then who will do?
  有些人必须付出代价
  他们不仅仅会逮捕我,还会处死我,假装一个意外,他们总是这样做,不过如果我不做谁做呢?
  
  Me:every hero is precious,we should do the works,but we should try be clever
  每个英雄都是宝贵的,我们应该做些事情,但是我们应该有策略
  
  CCC:yes... i will listen to your advice and suggetions.... brother...
  是的,我会听从你的忠告和建议,兄弟
  
  Me:there are many martyrs in Chinese revolution,believe me,we should have be clever
  could they find your ID?
  中国革命中牺牲了很多烈士,相信我,我们本来应该更聪明些
  他们能找到你的ID吗?
  
  CCC:if they want they can... even the IP
  如果他们想这么做的话他们能够办到,甚至IP
  
  Me:take care yourself
  照顾好你自己
  
  CCC:thanks.... brother....
  ok... are you going to leave now?
  谢谢,兄弟
  好的,你要走了吗?
  
  Me:not yet,if you want to talk,we talk
  还没有,如果你想谈话,我们就谈话
  
  CCC:thanks....
  we can make a difference.... ordinary people can do the most ordinary things....
  we have some obligations to our race and our heritage....
  我们可以改变,普通人可以做普通的事情
  我们有责任为我们的种族和传统做些事情
  
  Me:yes
  
  CCC:we must not avoid what we are supposed to do...
  you know only a few days ago one university has been build in North East...
  我们不能逃避我们该做的事情
  你知道,只是在前不久,东北部才建立了一所大学
  
  Me:I real don’t know there are so much suffering on you people before
  我真的不知道你们的人民以前受了那么多苦难。
  
  CCC:but before that no university and colleges were there to pursue higher study....
  在此之前那里没有机会读大学
  
  Me:who build the college,Indian government or local government
  谁建立了那所大学,印度政府还是当地政府
  
  CCC:the north eastern people are christians... and its only due to the effoert of those Christian missionaries that some missionary schools are there to study school education
  its a policy of the indian government to penetrate there into the Mongoloid society... because otherwise there will be battle ground....
  东北部人民是基督徒,这些只是基督教团体的努力,基督徒才能才能接受教育。
  印度政府对当地的政策是渗透,否则那里就是战场
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Me:your people should call for more right.by both praganda and fight
  你们的人民应该呼吁更多的权利,通过宣传和斗争两种手段。
  
  CCC:now before the building of the university, if any of our women came to Indian cities for university education, she would never get any residence to stay, no social security as local caucasians try to molest her, rape her, and if she ever go to the police, the police will rape her... many instances are there...
  indian army killed almost all Naga, Bodo and Manipuri boys....
  在那所大学建立之前,如果我们的妇女到印度城市去上大学,她们不可能找到居所,没有安全,白人会调戏她,强奸她,如果她去找警察,经常也会强奸她,很多例子
  印度军队杀死了几乎所有的那加、Bodo、曼尼普尔男子
  
  Me:what
  when
  啥,
  什么时候
  
  CCC:yes.... as a result now women are bigger in number than men....
  in the past years....
  i will give you all the documents...
  是的,结果就是,那里的女性比男性多
  在以前
  我会给你所有资料
  
  Me:ok
  
  CCC:its like Kashmir...
  another Kashmir.... where 85000 men have been killed by indian army...
  就像克什米尔
  另一个克什米尔,那里有85000男子被印度军队杀害了
  
  Me:oh,no
  汗
  
  CCC:thats why here is so much terorism... China’s govt does not know that....
  Now in Sri Lanka the Sri Lankan army is likking all Tamils ..
  and Indian army is actually killing them
  实际上是印度军队在杀害他们
  这就是为什么这里有这么多恐怖活动,中国政府不知道这些
  现在斯里兰卡军队正在消灭所有泰米尔人
  
  Me:Chinese people hear little about these
  中国人民对此所知甚少
  
  CCC: Who killed Rajiv Gandhi?
  A Tamil woman....
  你知道谁杀了拉吉夫.甘地吗?
  一个泰米尔女性
  
  Me:Tamil?
  泰米尔人?
  
  CCC:Yes,.... a Tamil woman... who was a member of LTTE
  not a Muslim....
  是的,一个泰米尔女性,猛虎组织成员,不是穆斯林
  
  Me:you mean Tamil are ally of us?
  你是说泰米尔人是我们的盟友?
  
  CCC:Their objective is as same as of ours.... they are fighting for their cultural idenity, language and ethnicity... they are not aryans or brown caucasians they are indian negroids...
  他们的目标和我们一样,他们为自己的文化、语言、种族而战,他们不是白人,他们是黑人。
  
  Me:oh
  
  CCC:You know India was a floating Isalnd which after separating from Australia about 100 million yreas ago, came to the Tethis ocean and collided with Asia about 50 million years ago....and gave birth to Himalayas....
  你知道,印度曾经是个漂移的大岛,1亿年前从澳洲分离,漂过古蒂狄斯海,5000万年前与亚洲大陆相撞,然后产生了喜马拉雅山脉。
  
  Me:yes
  
  CCC:there had been the Austric race already, Negroids came after that from Africa and then we Mongoloids entered to India and together with the three races built the Indus valley civilisations...
  because recent excavation in Indus civilisation has revealed that all the skulls found there belong to Mongoloid, Negroid and Austroloid people
  那里本来已经有了澳洲土著种族,黑人从非洲来,我们黄种人也进入了,这三个种族一起建立了古代印度河流域的文明。
  因为最近关于印度河文明的遗址挖掘显示了,所有的那里的头骨都属于黄种人、黑人和澳洲土著人。
  
  Me:yes
  
  CCC:then much after that Caucasians came to India and started progessing towards the east alongside the Ganges river....
  but historically this land was never the Aryan land...
  they now tell some false propaganda ....
  很晚以后,白人来到印度,开始占领东北恒河流域,
  历史上,这里从来不是雅利安人的地盘
  现在他们在进行虚假的宣传。
  
  Me:what
  
  CCC:yes....they have brainwashed the subjugated races so that they will never reclaim their land....
  so Mongoloids are not only victimized but also the Austrics...
  if you come to India, you can ask an illiterate Santhal about it he will tell you the same version I am now telling you...
  we all know.... but we are still colonized....
  so the Aryan mythology is a mere propaganda....
  是的,他们在给被压迫的种族洗脑,这样这些人就永远不会提出拿回他们的土地了。
  所以,不仅黄种人是被压迫者,澳洲土著人种也是
  如果你来到印度,你可以问一个文盲Santhal这些事情,他也会告诉你同样的故事,像我今天说的
  
  Me:there should be voice of your people,and send to the world
  应该出现你们人民的声音,传播向全世界
  
  CCC:yes.... but to counter a military force, there must a another military force... because a pen is not enough to liberate the people, so besides a pen there must be a sword...
  是啊,不过反抗一只军队,必须用另一支军队,仅仅靠笔是解放不了人民的,所以在笔旁边必须有剑。
  
  Me:yes,sometimes,pen is more sharp than sword.
  有些时候,笔比剑更加锋利。
  
  CCC:yes... for a long term effect.... but for an immediate effect sword is necessary....
  是的,从长远来说,不过目前来说剑是更重要的
  
  Me:never lay down your sword,and take up another weapon—pen
  不要放下你们的剑,再拿起另外一件武器——笔
  
  CCC:yes... right...
  
  Me:we have two hands,Mao always tell us
  老毛总是告诉我们,我们有两只手
  
  CCC:ok.... one hand will hold a pen and the other a sowrd....
  好的,一手剑一手笔
  
  Me:that is the way mao win the China
  这就是老毛赢得中国的办法
  
  CCC:Yes the glorious Long March and the cultural revolution....
  是的,光荣的长征和嗡嗡嗡(我持保留意见)
  
  Me:even early, a Saint indeed
  其实更早,一个真正的圣人
  
  CCC:a saint..... a social engineer....
  一个圣人,一个社会工程师
  
  Me:haha
  
  CCC:ha ha ha Mao is in my heart.... in out hearts....
  哈哈,毛主席在我心中,也在你心中
  
  Me:he is good at philosophy of how to fight
  他很懂得斗争的哲学
  
  CCC:indeed....
  没错
  
  Me:Chinese don’t believe in god, but believe in Saint,such as Mao and Confucius
  中国人不信仰神,但是信仰圣人,比如老毛和孔子
  
  CCC:ok.... what do you think of Buddhism? To me its a dubious religion. a diplomatic version of hinduism...
  好,你对佛教怎么看,对我来说是个可疑的宗教,一个印度教的另外版本。
  
  Me:I heard there are battle between Buddhism and Hinuism in acient
  我听说佛教和印度教在古代发生过激烈斗争
  
  CCC:yes... there might have been a battle....
  是的,也许有过斗争
  
  Me: there are three mainly religions in ancient China
  Confucianism,Buddhism and Daoism
  Confucinism is the core in most time
  do you know why?
  在中国古代有三种主要宗教。
  儒、道、释
  多数情况下儒教是核心,
  你知道为什么吗?
  
  CCC:not exactly...
  tell me please..
  不太清楚,
  请告诉我
  
  Me:because the emperor and minister love Confucinism
  Buddhism alway make trouble for empire.Taoism do nothing good or bad to empire
  因为朝廷最喜欢儒教
  佛教总是给朝廷制造麻烦(参考“三武灭佛”),道教对朝廷没有好处也没什么坏处。
  
  CCC:ohh yes... the emperor...
  but Confucianism badly treated the women....
  是的,朝廷,
  但是儒教压迫妇女
  
  Me:that’s sorrow,but all nation in ancient world drive up men
  I think it must for the reason of war
  很遗憾,不过古代世界所有国家的男性都高一等
  我想这是因为战争
  
  CCC:yes... thats true... in all civilisations....
  yes... war....
  i say it the clash of civilisations...
  and clash of cultures...
  是啊,确实,所以文明
  战争
  我说这是文明的冲突
  文化的冲突
  
  Me:there are more war in ancient world,men die,women were captured
  and they are weak when facing weapon
  and there are more women than men,because many men die
  古代战争更加频繁,男人战死,女人被俘
  她们面对武器是弱者
  女人比男人多,因为很多男人死了
  
  CCC:yes.... even in some ancient societies.... i read in Will Durant’s Story of Civilisations... people who got victory used to eat the flesh of captured women and children..
  是的,在一些古代社会,我看了一本书维尔杜伦关于文明的故事,战胜的人经常吃掉被俘妇女和孩子的肉。
 CCC:so it is now Afpak...
  in Swat valley...
  现在是Swat山谷的Afpak
  
   Me:yes,what happen there
  那里发生了什么事情
  
   CCC:the western media says it is Afpak in Swat valley of Pakistan....
   because Taliban has got the victory... or Pak army surrendered to the Taliban...
   western propaganda...
  西方媒体说巴基斯坦Swart山谷中的Afpak
  因为塔利班赢得了胜利,或者巴基斯坦向塔利班屈服了
  西方宣传
  
   Me:joke, how could they surrendered to Taliban
  开玩笑吧,他们怎么可能向塔利班屈服?
  
   CCC:actually the Swat valley has been under Taliban control for years... but this Taliban group is not the Afghan Taliban....
   no surrender...
   just the Pak govt allowed the local Taliban leaders to practice shariya...
   and close down women’s schools...
   internet cafes and other western cultural centres...
   like CD shops...
   cinema halls...
  实际上塔利班控制Swat山谷很多年了,不过这些塔利班不是阿富汗塔利班。
  不是屈服
  是巴基斯坦政府允许塔利班领导人实行shariya(可能是某种原教旨主义)
  关闭妇女学校,网吧,以及其他西方文化中心,比如CD商店,电影院
  
   Me:what’s the response of Pak govt
  巴基斯坦政府的反应是什么
  
   CCC:now the Afghan Taliban is under the leadership of Bahtulla Masud...
   Pak govt is ok with that...
   Pak govt is either helpless or it is a good strategy of the Pak govt to cope with Indian aggression...
   I think they made a passage along Pakistan’s western border for the Taliban to join Let and then fight for Kashmir....
  阿富汗塔利班现在是在老B的领导下
  巴基斯坦政府说OK
  巴基斯坦政府没办法或者这样也可以用来对付印度的侵略
  我想他们制造一个通道在巴基斯坦西部边界,让塔利班加入LET参与克什米尔战争
  
   Me:it may be better if they hide in Kashmir
  如果他们藏身在克什米尔更好
  
   CCC:yes... i hope they do so...
   its a good decision...
   now if they fight pitched battle against indian army in Kashmir...
  是啊,我也喜欢他们这样
  这是个好决定
  如果他们跳过起跟印度军队在克什米尔作战的话
  
   Me:maybe
  也许
  
   CCC:it will be justified in the eyes of the world...
   because the Kashmir issue must be solved...
  这样在世界的眼中才是公正的
  因为克什米尔问题必须解决
  
   Me:is there any Kashmir fighter?
  存在克什米尔抵抗组织吗?
  
   CCC:in Kashmir Kashmiri Mujahideens are already fighting for freedom...
   along with LET...
  克什米尔的KM组织已经在为克什米尔自由而战了,和LET一起
  
   me: but they are weak before,aren’t they?
  他们以前是不是很弱?
  
   CCC:yes they are still weak.... they have to fight against indian military establishment....
  是的,他们仍然很弱,他们不得不袭击印度军队的设施
  
   Me:I always doubt,where could they get weapons or other things
  我一直不明白他们从哪里弄到武器和其他东西
  
   CCC:well, I think US wants a war between Pakistan and India... so that it can sell some arms to them in this economic hard times....
  我想美国希望巴基斯坦和印度发生战争,这样他们就能卖军火给他们,在这个经济困难的时候
  
   Me:do you think US want to retreat some army from Afghan
  你认为美国会从阿富汗撤出一部分军队吗
  
   CCC:well, obama is going to send 17000 army men to afghan
  奥巴马要向阿富汗增兵17000人
  
   CCC:in india after four months there will be an inflation because india’s reserve bank has already printed 67,000, 0000000.... so currency will be devalued...
  四个月以后印度将要发生通货膨胀,因为印度储备银行已经印了6700,0000,0000卢比,所以货币会大增(稍微算了一下这些钱相当于142亿美元,能够造成很大的通货膨胀吗?莫非这就是俄罗斯突然与中国达成协议,获得250亿美元贷款的原因,避免像印度这样狂印钞票?)
  
   Me:really?they are going to kill their economy
  真的吗,他们想毁掉他们的经济
  
   CCC:it is a good time to see the decline of this empire...
   just after the indian parliament election....
  这是个好时候见证这个帝国的衰落
  在印度国会大选后
好问,等LZ继续更新
要多听听来自不同渠道不同阶层的声音....
还有吗?~~~~~~~~~~~
天涯的东西。。。。。靠谱么。。。。???
翻译的不错,我是说中文翻译成英文
续三:
me: i am afraid it is very difficult
  恐怕这是很困难的事情
  
  CCC: what is difficult...?
  什么是困难的?
  
  me: a separate nation is difficult
  建立一个独立的国家
  
   CCC: yes...
   there are demands for separate Naga nation, Manipuri nation and many others...
  if they are united then it is not very difficult...
  是的,那加,曼尼普尔等等邦都想建立独立国家
  如果他们联合起来就不会很困难了
  
   me: is your maoist organization firm?
  你们的毛派组织严密吗?
  
   CCC: no... very sad
  不是,非常遗憾
  
   me: no regular meeting?
  没有经常开会
  
   CCC: no... its almost impossible....
  没有,这几乎不可能
  
   me: is the meeting forbiden?
  开会是被禁止的吗?
  
  CCC: no its not forbidden...
   but the situation is not normal...
  不禁止,
  但是局势不正常
   me: how could your party expand fresh party members?
  那你们的党怎么发展党员?
  
   CCC: well, the Maoist party actually operates in Andhra Pradesh and Orissa... in west bengal in few districts they operate..
  好吧,毛派党在安德拉邦和奥里萨邦还有西孟加拉邦的一部分地区运行
  
   me: Party group of every rank is very important
  各级党组织会议是很重要的
  
   CCC: yes...
  
   me: sometime,i think you must be a biologist
  有时候我都以为你是生物学家
   CCC: no... the funniest report today is a Japanese couple with family members came to Kolkata to get married here by Vedic hindu system....
   Japanese once supported Hiler...
  不是,今天最搞笑的新闻是一对日本夫妇和他们的家庭成员到加尔各答结婚,用的是印度教仪式
  日本曾经支持希特勒
  
   me: yes ,i know
  是的,我知道
  
   CCC: still they worship the racist culture...
   so they have found racist hindus friendly...
  他们现在还是信访种族主义文化
  所以他们对种族主义的印度教很友好
  
   me: could hindism recognize them as Brahman?
  印度教会把他们看作婆罗门吗?
  
   CCC: never..... rather hindu caucasians mock them, laugh at them, recognize them as ugly yello chinkis....
   this is the fact....
  不可能,印度白人戏弄他们,嘲笑他们,认为他们是丑陋的黄种chinkis
  这就是事实
  
   me: what a joke
  可笑
  
   me: acient Egyptian and Sumerian are Mongoloid too
  they have black straight hair like Chinese
   I mean all the great acient civilization are set up by us
  古代埃及人和苏美尔人都是黄种人(很多迹象表明苏美尔人和中国人渊源很深,神话故事的类似,蛇龙崇拜,文字上苏美尔是楔形文字,跟中国古代甲骨文之类的也风格类似,甚至中国的商朝中的“商”和苏美尔很可能是同一个词)
  他们是直黑发,像中国人一样
  我的意思是,古代所有的伟大文明都是我们的人创造的
续四:
CCC: yes our nose is not so sharp or pointed, our hair is straight, our height is medium, our eyes are different, so?
   but those hindu caucasians think because of these features we must die..
   ridiculous...
  是的,我们的鼻子不高,我们的头发是直的,我们身高中等,我们的眼睛不一样,所以
  但是那些印度教白人觉得因为我们这些特征我们就该死
  荒谬
  
  CCC: and they try to do that...
  those hindu caucasians in asia always mock us and try to harass us....
   know why?
  他们会这样做的
  亚洲的印度教白人总是嘲弄我们并且骚扰我们
  你知道为什么吗
  
  me: why
  
   CCC: because it is the fact that we have lost our masculinity....
   because we have become effeminate
   because we are not aggressive
   because we are defensive
  because we do not care if our women are kidnapped or hijacked by them
   look. every thing related to human on earth is based upon social darwinism...
   the fittest will survive...
   and those who are not fit enough will die instantly...
   if we are not conscious enough our race will become extinct
   tomorrow there will be no mongoloid race
  因为我们不在乎我们的妇女被他们掳掠
  看,地球上人类的一切都和社会达尔文进化论有关
  适者生存
  那些不适应的就会立即死亡
  如果我们不足够重视的话,我们的种族就会被灭亡
  明天就会没有黄种人了
  因为我们失去了男子汉的气概
  因为我们变得女人气
  因为我们不具有侵略性
  因为我们是防御性的
  
   me: i think wolf will win the tiger
  我想狼会胜过老虎
  
   CCC: yes we must be the wolves....to win the tiger...
  because to cut a piece of iron we need to have another piece of iron
   so we must lunch counter attack...
   culturally...
  是的,我们应该做狼,战胜老虎
  要截断一块铁我们必须用另一块铁
  所以我们应该反击
  文化上
  
   me: you know,the totem of Mongol is wolf
   their flag
   the wolves have organization,but tiger doesn’t
  我知道,蒙古人的图腾是狼
  他们的旗帜
  狼有组织,老虎没有
  
   CCC: so we need to unite people under the Maoist umbrella....
  所以我们需要团结人民在毛泽东的旗帜下
  
   me: macroscopy
   microscopic organization is important also
  宏观上
  围观上的组织结构也很重要
   me: the army organized well would win the worse one,even with low class weapons
  the most awful power of CCP is organization
  组织良好的军队将会战胜组织不太良好的军队,即使用比较差的武器
  CCP最强大的力量就在于组织
   CCC: and their policy is very deceiving... they are using the indian mongoloid after brainwashing them with nationalist agenda....
   they will throw them into the dustbin after using them...
   in fact this is the worst kind of exploitation....
   why should our race will fight against us for the benefit of another hostile race?
  他们的策略很具有欺骗性,他们用国家宣传把印度黄种人洗脑
  他们在用过他们以后会把他们扔进垃圾箱
  者是最坏的利用
  为什么我们的种族要跟自己人打仗却令其他种族受益呢
  
   me: you couldn’t believe it, the KMT soildier captured by CCP will become CCP soildier after few days
  they fight even more brave than quondam CCP solidiers
  你不会相信的,被共军俘虏的国军士兵几天内就会转变成共军
  他们甚至比原本的共军作战还要勇敢
  
   CCC: ok can you tell me?
  好的,你能告诉我吗
  
   me: the CCP could capture their heart in only few days
   political commissar (within the army)
   in every company
   mao firmly insisted this at early time of build the red army
  共军能够在很短的时间内俘获他们的心
  政委
  在每个连队
  毛在早期建立红军的时候坚持这条
me: have you fight them before
  你跟他们打过吗?
  
  CCC: actually in indian empire.... caucasian hindus are 72%... 26% Negroids...
   and Mongoloids only 2%....
  less than 2%
   how can you fight?
  实际上,在印度这个帝国,印度教白人占72%,26%是黑人,黄种人只有2%
  少于2%
  怎么打
  
   me: how about Bengal
  孟加拉怎样呢
  
  CCC: all are indo-aryans or hindu caucasians...
   you can hardly see a mongoloid....here
  也都是印欧人种,或高加索人种
  你在那里很难遇上黄种人
  
   me: you mean some of the lowest claste are caucasians too
  照你这个意思,一些最低等种姓的人也是白人咯
  
   CCC: its because low caste austrics and negrito women have been raped by caucasians and become pregnant.....
  那是因为低等种姓的澳洲黑人和尼格罗妇女被白人强奸怀孕
  
   me: that’s bad
  糟糕
  
   CCC: mongoloid women are continuously raped by caucasian hindu boys....
   but they do not marry them...
   just use and throw...
  黄种女人被白人男子不断的强奸
  但是他们不会娶她们
  就是用过,然后扔掉
  
   me: is there many rape case in India
  在印度有很多强奸案吗
  
  CCC: india is famous for rape and prostitution
   govt does nothing...
   because govt wants to make the other races extinct
  印度的强奸和卖淫之多是出了名的
  政府不作为
  因为政府想让其他种族消失
  
   me: terrible
  
   CCC: if you dont believe... i ask you to come and see by yourself...
  如果你不信,你可以来亲眼看看
  
   me: yes,i believe you
  我信你
  
   CCC: its more terrible than hitler’s concentration camp....
   why i should say against my own country....
   because... hindu caucasians have not made us citizens...
   rather slaves...
  比希特勒的集中营还可怕
  我为什么要说自己国家的坏话呢
  因为白人不把我们当公民看,而是当奴隶看
  
  CCC: christian graham stein
   he came to india to preach christianity
   among poor people
  he along with his family was burned alive
   hindus killed him
   also his whole family
  一个叫小G的基督徒牧师
  他到印度来传教在穷人中
  他和他的家人被活活烧死了
  印度教徒杀了他
  和他的全家
  
  in army the officers are brahmins
   the officers are hindus
   but the soldiers are low castes
   shudra caste
   shudra are not untouchables
  dalits
   untouchables are called
   dalit means oppressed
  在军队里,军官是婆罗门
  军官是印度教徒
  但士兵是低等种姓的人
  首陀罗
  首陀罗不是不可接触的人
  达利特
  不可接触的人称为达利特
  达利特意思就是被压迫的
  
   me: can shudra caste become lieutenant
  首陀罗可以成为低级军官吗
  
   CCC: yes they can become
   but not dalits
  是的,他们可以
  但是达利特不能
  
  me: why did shudra fight in war ,why not mutiny?
  为什么首陀罗愿意作战呢,为什么不哗变?
  
   CCC: because he is brainwashed by Hinduism
  他们被印度教洗脑了
  
   CCC: india became liberated in 1947
   not liberated
  india got decolonized
   from british
   but now internal colonization is still there
   here we call it internal
   not external
   british outsiders
   they stayed in india
   but their home was in england
   they never left their home
  印度是1947年解放的
  不是解放
  是脱离殖民统治
  从英国人那里
  但是内部殖民仍然照旧
  我们这里叫做内部殖民
  不是外部殖民
  英国人是外来的
  他们呆在印度
  但是他们的家在英国
  他们没有离开他们的家
  他们永远不会离开他们的家
  
   me: why didn’t british end the hinduism before
  为什么英国人不结束种姓制度呢
  
  CCC: they had tried, but in 1857 they understood, if they ever try to do that, the indians would again revolt....
  他们曾经试图这么做,不过到了1857年,他们明白了,如果他们继续这种努力,印度人会叛乱
说实话,我觉得如果把角色替换一下,倒是有些像轮子功的人在向外国人讲述中国……
续五:
 me: how many sudra are there in India?
  印度有多少首脱罗(最低等种姓)
  
   CCC: 85%
   Muslims 14%
  4% Brahmins
  
  me: I’m so surprised, there are so many sudra people, why did they suffer caste system?
  我很惊奇啊,首陀罗有这么多人,他们为什么忍受种姓制度呢?
  
  CCC: we have to understand the psyche of the general population
   mentality
   its hinduism
   that binds the people
   have you heard about the caste based reservation system?
   in govt jobs and educational institutions there is a caste based reservation system in india
  its a strategy to channelize the vented anger of the majoiry
  我们必须理解一般大众的心理,精神
  就是印度教
  他们是盲从的人民
  你听说过基于种姓的保留制度吗
  在政府和学府,种姓保留制度为一些人提供名额
  这是一种引导大众愤怒情绪排出的手段
  
  CCC: causational theory
  cause and effect theory
   if we want to understand the present, we need to look back to the past
  因果理论
  原因和结果的理论
  我们想理解现在,我们就必须回头看历史
  
  me: does India has one nation ,two system policy?
  印度有一国两制政策吗?
  
   CCC: i can tell you, many nations, but one dominant policy
   many nations, but one national identity
  我可以告诉你,是很多国家,一个主导政策
  很多国家,但是一个国家身份
  
   me: equality
  平等
  
   CCC: in india there is no equality
   that is the basic difference
  在印度没有平等
  基本面上就是不同的

  me: why didn’t the human right committee of UN focus on India, especially the north-east part
  为什么联合国人权委员会不关心一下印度呢,尤其是东北部
  
   CCC: I don’t know, it seemed all of the world forget about north-east, the UN,US,UK, nobody remember us
  我不知道,似乎整个世界都忘记了东北部,联合国,美国,英国,没人记得我们
在这里我也仅仅是在转贴,原因是似乎大家对于种姓的认识都非常之少,这大概和我们与这种等级社会(人生身份上的等级)距离比较远,所以对于种姓这种制度的罪恶应该是很难想象的(这大概也是部分CDer质疑作者造假的原因吧)。
这个转贴让我对建立一点印度的认识,这就是,这个“国家”的种族、民族、宗教问题的尖锐。并且得出我一点结论,即印度从历史来说,不是一个统一体。从这个角度来说,对于中国未来是非常有利的,因为堡垒往往最容易从内部被攻破。
终于单独发出来了,哪位CDER去过印度的说说啊
印度种姓那套东西和我们蒙元时期的四等人制度差不多,都是外来征服者的统治伎俩

印度历史上反复被外来征服者入侵,没有形成过强有力的本土中央集权和强势本土民族。在英国统治下也不过是几百个邦,从没有统一过。入侵者多数是白种人,而最底层的是南部肤色黝黑的,所以印度的种姓一般原则是越浅色越高级,越深色越低级。

这种近乎奴隶时代的制度居然在现代印度还有非常稳固的生命力,只能说印度近代根本没有真正革命过
只要看看印度那么长的历史上,有过阶级革命吗?
这倒也没什么啊,听听不同的声音没什么坏处,印度人也不是铁板一块的
这里大概有一点需要指出,这个印度网友种族上是黄种人,他的政治立场是毛派,原因很简单,因为印度对内有着一种非常残暴的种族压迫,是白种人对黄种人的压迫。
本人不是种族主义者,也反对用种族主义来看待世界,但是这不能说,外国人(印度人)不是种族主义者。中国人并没有什么种族义务,但是利用别人的种族情绪,应该还是可以的。
看着其实有点像日本赢了日俄战争之后中国、棒子和东南亚人也庆祝黄种人战胜白种人的胜利一样……一玩到种族问题,就全乱套了:D
希望土鳖把到南藏交通好好修,为将来做准备
原帖由 nihua 于 2009-3-8 17:05 发表
因为堡垒往往最容易从内部被攻破

我们为什么要攻破印度?;P
晕,还想输出革命呀。歇着吧,教训还不够吗?
一直分不清楚铁巴和阿三,从外貌上.
原帖由 pkh1997 于 2009-3-8 22:02 发表
一直分不清楚铁巴和阿三,从外貌上.



本身几乎就是源自一个民族的,只不过宗教信仰不同,当年英国人跑的时候搞了个印巴分治,号称是为了解决穆斯林和印度教徒的冲突,结果就是造成了今天这种局面......

PS.  the Nagas怎么听上去那么象魔兽里面的一个种族.........
看来a3内部矛盾重重啊,;P ;P ;P
原帖由 pkh1997 于 2009-3-8 22:02 发表
一直分不清楚铁巴和阿三,从外貌上.



那族群很复杂
我一直理解为
阿三是印度斯坦族(雅利安+达罗毗荼+NNN族)为主,巴铁是旁遮普族(印度斯坦族+蒙古)和信德族(印度斯坦族+突厥)为主~~~
呵呵
这个帖子有意思。Mark一下。:D
阿三的BKC:D
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越看越不着调,有些人还真有空
lz english is very good.
人口那么多,人种颜色那么复杂,宗教又多样,不乱才怪。可资利用。
我感觉阿三和雅利安人种差得远
mark
原帖由 9527周 于 2009-3-9 19:59 发表
我感觉阿三和雅利安人种差得远

:lol 混血+生存环境。关键人家“自以为是”呗
TIANYA'S TX, YOUR ENGLISH IS VERY GOOD. CHINESE TANSLATE ENGLISH IS GOOD.

太有咱TG范儿了,我也来学习学习天涯jy的英语。
阿三呀,英语方面果然有优势,看来学会英语不仅可以与英美交流还能够与阿三交流。