外电报道:印度LCA生产型将采用美国发动鸡

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国产Kaveri发动鸡已被放弃,其命运与LCA无关。。。:D

India will opt for a foreign powerplant for the first seven squadrons of its Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA), increasing doubts over the status and viability of the indigenous Kaveri engine programme.

"For the next six to seven years, the Kaveri programme will be decoupled from the LCA programme. This is to allow the LCA to reach its own targets and without being held back by the problems with the Kaveri," says P S Subramanyam, programme director [combat aircraft] at India's Aeronautical Development Agency, which is responsible for the Tejas's design and development.

"While we remain committed to the Kaveri programme over the long run, we think that it will take some time to be ready for our aircraft. Therefore, we have decided that the first seven squadrons of the Tejas will use a foreign engine."

The ADA is eager to deliver the first Tejas, which has also been plagued by delays, early in 2011. That is the main reason for the decision to push aside the Kaveri.

That is a significant, but not unexpected, setback for the engine programme. India embarked on the Kaveri in 1986 to develop an indigenous engine to power the Tejas and all future Indian fighter aircraft. However, technical problems - which were never been fully explained - have plagued it from the start and the engine failed its high-altitude tests in 2004. Industry sources say that there were problems with the turbine blades and that the powerplant failed to reach the required thrust.

The Gas Turbine Research Establishment, which is responsible for developing the Kaveri, initially sought Russia's help to push the programme forward. It has been in talks with France's Snecma to tap the European company's expertise but has yet to secure an agreement.

As a result, the ADA ordered the General Electric F404 engines for the Tejas prototypes and the first squadron of 20 fighters. It also has an ongoing competition to choose between the Eurojet EJ200 and GE F414, which can provide up to 23,000lb (102kN) of thrust, although that requirement is to rise from engines for 20 aircraft to 120.

India's army and navy could order up to 220 LCAs. Subramanyam says that this means the Kaveri will power later variants of the aircraft. "We believe that the Kaveri should be ready by then, and I am confident that we will eventually see the Kaveri powering the LCA. In any case, the LCA will still be Kaveri's test platform."

He adds that the proposed medium combat aircraft, which the ADA is in the initial stages of studying, will also use the Kaveri engine. "The aircraft will be designed around the Kaveri," he says.国产Kaveri发动鸡已被放弃,其命运与LCA无关。。。:D

India will opt for a foreign powerplant for the first seven squadrons of its Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA), increasing doubts over the status and viability of the indigenous Kaveri engine programme.

"For the next six to seven years, the Kaveri programme will be decoupled from the LCA programme. This is to allow the LCA to reach its own targets and without being held back by the problems with the Kaveri," says P S Subramanyam, programme director [combat aircraft] at India's Aeronautical Development Agency, which is responsible for the Tejas's design and development.

"While we remain committed to the Kaveri programme over the long run, we think that it will take some time to be ready for our aircraft. Therefore, we have decided that the first seven squadrons of the Tejas will use a foreign engine."

The ADA is eager to deliver the first Tejas, which has also been plagued by delays, early in 2011. That is the main reason for the decision to push aside the Kaveri.

That is a significant, but not unexpected, setback for the engine programme. India embarked on the Kaveri in 1986 to develop an indigenous engine to power the Tejas and all future Indian fighter aircraft. However, technical problems - which were never been fully explained - have plagued it from the start and the engine failed its high-altitude tests in 2004. Industry sources say that there were problems with the turbine blades and that the powerplant failed to reach the required thrust.

The Gas Turbine Research Establishment, which is responsible for developing the Kaveri, initially sought Russia's help to push the programme forward. It has been in talks with France's Snecma to tap the European company's expertise but has yet to secure an agreement.

As a result, the ADA ordered the General Electric F404 engines for the Tejas prototypes and the first squadron of 20 fighters. It also has an ongoing competition to choose between the Eurojet EJ200 and GE F414, which can provide up to 23,000lb (102kN) of thrust, although that requirement is to rise from engines for 20 aircraft to 120.

India's army and navy could order up to 220 LCAs. Subramanyam says that this means the Kaveri will power later variants of the aircraft. "We believe that the Kaveri should be ready by then, and I am confident that we will eventually see the Kaveri powering the LCA. In any case, the LCA will still be Kaveri's test platform."

He adds that the proposed medium combat aircraft, which the ADA is in the initial stages of studying, will also use the Kaveri engine. "The aircraft will be designed around the Kaveri," he says.
Which part on LCA is made in India?
The "plan" part ...
印度外部条件真好,F414,EJ200都能引进,让人羡慕!
LS 国外都看到三哥没山寨的本质 所以大买特买 要是买TG
说不定好久山寨版的就出来了
5 吹有什么意思,不投米,还是做不出来顶用的发动机..只能做个玩票型..
那不叫山寨,那叫参考!
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目前Kaveri的信息有点混乱。原本要跟施奈克玛敲定合同,采用该公司提供的ECO核心机,印法合作研制新版的Kaveri。可后来印方评审委员会变卦了,认为这种做法就是扼杀国产发动机,法国也不愿意提供核心技术。
Kaveri的前景不容乐观...
我国据说在2005年的时候都木有核心机试车台,印度估计现在都木有..
连TG都被发动机搞得焦头烂额,阿三还是乘早放弃吧。。[:a3:]
已阿三的工业基础来说,伊就是一个心比天高,命比纸薄的怨妇.
这是什么鸡 下水还要靠进口 ;P
其实我宁愿阿三引进F404,甚至F414、EJ200……
原帖由 langge945 于 2009-2-21 11:05 发表
LS 国外都看到三哥没山寨的本质 所以大买特买 要是买TG
说不定好久山寨版的就出来了


某人说土鳖手上有F404
要卖给土鳖可以,要附加的技术啥的,嘿嘿
工艺,材料也能山寨?
道路艰难,步履蹒跚不是错,大家都是这么一步步走过来的。让人恶心的就是三锅比我们还浮夸!我们从三锅身上看到曾经可笑的我们的一段历史。
"道路艰难,步履蹒跚不是错,大家都是这么一步步走过来的。让人恶心的就是三锅比我们还浮夸!我们从三锅身上看到曾经可笑的我们的一段历史。"

也不用这么装清醒吧,我觉得中国人很少浮夸,除了大跃进的时候,还真不记得中国人吹牛却做不出来的东西。而且中国人喜欢自责,很少两次跌倒在同一个地方,阿三还真没有看出来有这个优点。
原帖由 galaxyjump 于 2009-2-25 16:52 发表
"道路艰难,步履蹒跚不是错,大家都是这么一步步走过来的。让人恶心的就是三锅比我们还浮夸!我们从三锅身上看到曾经可笑的我们的一段历史。"

也不用这么装清醒吧,我觉得中国人很少浮夸,除了大跃进的时候,还真 ...


这倒是正解,根据成熟——不成熟理论
我们已经度过这个阶段了,这个由于自尊心被威胁到而手足无措的阶段。我们要做的是继续埋头苦干!
原帖由 galaxyjump 于 2009-2-25 16:52 发表
也不用这么装清醒吧,我觉得中国人很少浮夸,除了大跃进的时候,还真不记得中国人吹牛却做不出来的东西。而且中国人喜欢自责,很少两次跌倒在同一个地方,阿三还真没有看出来有这个优点。


  不好意思,中国的历史发展进程被人称为螺旋式,就是大多数时间在打转。所谓开化最早,进化最迟......中国人很少两次跌倒在同一个地方,这个判断至少不适用于本次元空间。
  至于“除了大跃进的时候,还真不记得中国人吹牛却做不出来的东西”,就更加对不住了,大多数中国人吹了牛却做不出来的东西并不产生于大跃进时期,遍布军工各个领域。

    兄台,第一个问题你可以从历史书去寻求答案,第二个问题,在超大翻翻旧帖子就可以了。新闻联播是可以看的,不过需要带着翻译工具看。
原帖由 aliasmaya 于 2009-2-21 12:40 发表


TB若是有这般本领,还用山寨?!:(
F414、EJ200等技术跨度很大的机型,不是TB有“贼胆”就能山寨的。;P 二十多年了也没见把GD25彻底给搞明白?T700山寨成了吗?...只有老大哥的某些“糙货”比较适合TB的“脾胃”,但即便如此、像АЛ-31Ф等三代机也不是立时就能消化的。
...

说得很好!:handshake
原帖由 情人 于 2009-3-6 16:28 发表


  不好意思,中国的历史发展进程被人称为螺旋式,就是大多数时间在打转。所谓开化最早,进化最迟......中国人很少两次跌倒在同一个地方,这个判断至少不适用于本次元空间。
  至于“除了大跃进的时候,还真 ...

是的,中国的历史就是这样。看完金观涛的《兴盛与危机》,我就明白啥叫超稳定结构了,明白为什么中国人老在原地兜圈子。不过,将来应该不会这样了。
跑题也是坛子一大特色。扯远了楼上几位
A3的机子N年后都不一定能研制成功,最后会跟阿穷一样放弃的
原帖由 SamMcCauley 于 2009-3-7 23:48 发表

说得很好!:handshake


小妹妹,ZG是不是和你有什么家仇情耻,让你如此的怨念。
连涡喷技术都一头雾水就像搞涡扇?阿三还是老老实实继续买办吧;P