超级军网阿三退役海军上将泄大密
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退役海军上将Arun Prakash在客座博客中透露，为了支持“国货”，印度海军成为“阿琼”坦克的第一个客户，把达不到陆军要求的坦克买下称为Mk 1。我以前很佩服网上阿三们的“智慧”，一个劲要求印度空军订购迟迟不能达标的LCA做Mk 1，然后慢慢“磨洋工”Mk 2，没想到原来是印度海军早就使过的“创新”。
看该博客的访客回应中某印度陆军现役军官叹息海空军好高骛远，虽然它也想看到海军从“南日本海”里捞个“中国美人鱼”回来，但是它更着急为了中印边界而不得不部署的六个师。它认为必须扭转中国通过巴基斯坦／孟加拉国给印度造成的被动，迫使中国在西藏部署10个师，而印度能腾出那六个师来，就可以部署到索马里／阿富汗／菲律宾。http://livefist.blogspot.com/200 ... future-beneath.html
退役海军上将Arun Prakash在客座博客中透露，为了支持“国货”，印度海军成为“阿琼”坦克的第一个客户，把达不到陆军要求的坦克买下称为Mk 1。我以前很佩服网上阿三们的“智慧”，一个劲要求印度空军订购迟迟不能达标的LCA做Mk 1，然后慢慢“磨洋工”Mk 2，没想到原来是印度海军早就使过的“创新”。
看该博客的访客回应中某印度陆军现役军官叹息海空军好高骛远，虽然它也想看到海军从“南日本海”里捞个“中国美人鱼”回来，但是它更着急为了中印边界而不得不部署的六个师。它认为必须扭转中国通过巴基斯坦／孟加拉国给印度造成的被动，迫使中国在西藏部署10个师，而印度能腾出那六个师来，就可以部署到索马里／阿富汗／菲律宾。
退役海军上将Arun Prakash在客座博客中透露，为了支持“国货”，印度海军成为“阿琼”坦克的第一个客户，把达不到陆军要求的坦克买下称为Mk 1。我以前很佩服网上阿三们的“智慧”，一个劲要求印度空军订购迟迟不能达标的LCA做Mk 1，然后慢慢“磨洋工”Mk 2，没想到原来是印度海军早就使过的“创新”。
看该博客的访客回应中某印度陆军现役军官叹息海空军好高骛远，虽然它也想看到海军从“南日本海”里捞个“中国美人鱼”回来，但是它更着急为了中印边界而不得不部署的六个师。它认为必须扭转中国通过巴基斯坦／孟加拉国给印度造成的被动，迫使中国在西藏部署10个师，而印度能腾出那六个师来，就可以部署到索马里／阿富汗／菲律宾。http://livefist.blogspot.com/200 ... future-beneath.html
退役海军上将Arun Prakash在客座博客中透露，为了支持“国货”，印度海军成为“阿琼”坦克的第一个客户，把达不到陆军要求的坦克买下称为Mk 1。我以前很佩服网上阿三们的“智慧”，一个劲要求印度空军订购迟迟不能达标的LCA做Mk 1，然后慢慢“磨洋工”Mk 2，没想到原来是印度海军早就使过的“创新”。
看该博客的访客回应中某印度陆军现役军官叹息海空军好高骛远，虽然它也想看到海军从“南日本海”里捞个“中国美人鱼”回来，但是它更着急为了中印边界而不得不部署的六个师。它认为必须扭转中国通过巴基斯坦／孟加拉国给印度造成的被动，迫使中国在西藏部署10个师，而印度能腾出那六个师来，就可以部署到索马里／阿富汗／菲律宾。
从三哥第一型自主研发的飞机开始，就注定在国防工业建设上是好高骛远的，基础工业那么差。
大陆建国初的基础工业其实也是比较水的，很幸运的是我们当时有一大批海外留学三钱邓稼先王淦昌等老前辈为中国整个基础工业做出了最合理的规划。又有北方毛子老大哥的帮助。
大陆建国初的基础工业其实也是比较水的，很幸运的是我们当时有一大批海外留学三钱邓稼先王淦昌等老前辈为中国整个基础工业做出了最合理的规划。又有北方毛子老大哥的帮助。
阿三忍不住，又泄了。号称试验性质的ATV（“高级技术展示”）核潜艇最高水下航速30－34节。
它4000吨的用90MW反应堆，而它要租借的俄国”鲨鱼”7500吨使用的是190MW的反应堆。
http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.i ... eid=92&Itemid=1
India's indigenous N-sub secret is out
Mail Today Bureau
New Delhi, February 13, 2009
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has added a feather to its cap. It is delivering on schedule— in 2009— India's first indigenously built nuclear powered submarine (SSBN) as it had promised at the beginning of the United Progressive Alliance's (UPA) term in office.
The secret of the indigenous nuclear submarine programme seems to be finally out. Defence minister A. K. Antony has confirmed what was being speculated all this while - that the country is ready to launch the third arm of its nuclear triad.
India is getting a batch of submarine launched ballistic missiles (SLBM) and submarine- launched cruise missiles (SLCM), ready to wed with the SSBNs, which would presumably be nuclear tipped. This would, in turn, underline the deterrence posture of the nuclear weapons programme providing it a failsafe 'second strike' capability.
But this would also entail fundamental change in the country's nuclear weapons policies for the peculiar nature of nuclear submarine deployment.
A nuclear submarine remains submerged underwater for most of its deployment period thus making communication difficult especially in times of a national emergency.
A nuclear submarine commander is therefore armed with a separate launch regimen that is qualitatively different from those used above ground.
Hence, when India launches its nuclear submarine, reportedly three, it would have to put in place launch codes that would provide a degree of autonomy to the commanders. This, in turn, would change the deployment pattern of at least a portion of the country's nuclear forces to 'ready arsenal'. This would require a political decision.
The Indian development is important in terms of the changing Chinese deployment by which they are modernising their nuclear submarine fleet, putting into waters the refurbished Xia class and a new Jin class.
The country had been working on the submarine, coyly termed Advanced Technology Vehicle (ATV) since 1985. The design is reportedly based on the old Charlie II- class submarine - a former Soviet make.
The programme was bedevilled with problems in developing a reactor suitable for the platform and then, building a containment vessel for the reactor. The attack submarine design is said to have a 4,000- ton displacement and a single- shaft, home- built nuclear power plant.
The estimated speed of the vessel is 12- 15 knots on surface, and 30- 34 knots submerged.
The reactor is of the pressurised water variety.
The nuclear submarine would beef up the country's presence in the Indian Ocean.
It brings to fruition a programme that was kicked off under the leadership of the late Rajiv Gandhi who had leased a Charlie- class nuclear submarine that was renamed in 1988 as INS Chakra.
它4000吨的用90MW反应堆，而它要租借的俄国”鲨鱼”7500吨使用的是190MW的反应堆。
http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.i ... eid=92&Itemid=1
India's indigenous N-sub secret is out
Mail Today Bureau
New Delhi, February 13, 2009
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has added a feather to its cap. It is delivering on schedule— in 2009— India's first indigenously built nuclear powered submarine (SSBN) as it had promised at the beginning of the United Progressive Alliance's (UPA) term in office.
The secret of the indigenous nuclear submarine programme seems to be finally out. Defence minister A. K. Antony has confirmed what was being speculated all this while - that the country is ready to launch the third arm of its nuclear triad.
India is getting a batch of submarine launched ballistic missiles (SLBM) and submarine- launched cruise missiles (SLCM), ready to wed with the SSBNs, which would presumably be nuclear tipped. This would, in turn, underline the deterrence posture of the nuclear weapons programme providing it a failsafe 'second strike' capability.
But this would also entail fundamental change in the country's nuclear weapons policies for the peculiar nature of nuclear submarine deployment.
A nuclear submarine remains submerged underwater for most of its deployment period thus making communication difficult especially in times of a national emergency.
A nuclear submarine commander is therefore armed with a separate launch regimen that is qualitatively different from those used above ground.
Hence, when India launches its nuclear submarine, reportedly three, it would have to put in place launch codes that would provide a degree of autonomy to the commanders. This, in turn, would change the deployment pattern of at least a portion of the country's nuclear forces to 'ready arsenal'. This would require a political decision.
The Indian development is important in terms of the changing Chinese deployment by which they are modernising their nuclear submarine fleet, putting into waters the refurbished Xia class and a new Jin class.
The country had been working on the submarine, coyly termed Advanced Technology Vehicle (ATV) since 1985. The design is reportedly based on the old Charlie II- class submarine - a former Soviet make.
The programme was bedevilled with problems in developing a reactor suitable for the platform and then, building a containment vessel for the reactor. The attack submarine design is said to have a 4,000- ton displacement and a single- shaft, home- built nuclear power plant.
The estimated speed of the vessel is 12- 15 knots on surface, and 30- 34 knots submerged.
The reactor is of the pressurised water variety.
The nuclear submarine would beef up the country's presence in the Indian Ocean.
It brings to fruition a programme that was kicked off under the leadership of the late Rajiv Gandhi who had leased a Charlie- class nuclear submarine that was renamed in 1988 as INS Chakra.
为什么是海军而不是陆军成为“阿琼”坦克的客户？
感觉这个所谓的上将也没什么脑子
有人说土共在青藏高原，喜马拉雅山上架雷达，能俯视印度天空，
地理位置，土共有那么好？
那土共预警机还布置在中印边界干嘛？
哪位说说！谢谢！:o :o :o
地理位置，土共有那么好？
那土共预警机还布置在中印边界干嘛？
哪位说说！谢谢！:o :o :o
http://trishulgroup.blogspot.com ... al-with-indian.html
这个活宝回答读者问题时声称“巴拉克”－8比S-300PMU2还要优秀，射程120公里的“巴拉克”－8远程型和400公里的S-400相当，因为使用的AESA比”胜利“的PESA（无源相控阵）先进。
见识一下80％原装进口的”布拉莫司“的组装车间：
这个活宝回答读者问题时声称“巴拉克”－8比S-300PMU2还要优秀，射程120公里的“巴拉克”－8远程型和400公里的S-400相当，因为使用的AESA比”胜利“的PESA（无源相控阵）先进。
见识一下80％原装进口的”布拉莫司“的组装车间：
三哥的海军成为“阿琼”坦克的第一个客户。 [:a1:]
它也想看到海军从“南日本海”里捞个“中国美人鱼”回来
这句话是什么意思啊？
这句话是什么意思啊？
咖喱海军溜达到东北亚巡航呗。。。
原帖由 wjh8848 于 2009-2-16 11:02 发表
有人说土共在青藏高原，喜马拉雅山上架雷达，能俯视印度天空，
地理位置，土共有那么好？
那土共预警机还布置在中印边界干嘛？
哪位说说！谢谢！:o :o :o
预警机什么时候部署在中印边界了？
已知的都在东部和中部，哪里跑到中印边界去了？
不拉猫屎这么大块头导弹如果能用涡喷，那是相当强力的~~~~~~
难道是印度陆战队用？
印度人还想抽出几个师部署在菲律宾;funk ;funk
迫使中国在西藏部署10个师，而印度能腾出那六个师来，就可以部署到索马里／阿富汗／菲律宾。
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这句话是怎么理解？
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这句话是怎么理解？
反正是莫名其妙：
中国提供一些Kalashnikovs和RPGs给恐怖分子和核弹和导弹到朴军队和从而保证她(中国)没有在西藏被迫使部署六个师。那是一场非常聪明的比赛。 我们，相反不镀锌西藏。 Nehru精神病仍然徘徊。 我感到我们必须迫使中国调拨十个PLA师在西藏。让我们沉溺于人力密集的比赛和由技术挫败获得的deterrance中国设计。 那里我们可以配比我们没有而不是的金钱密集的比赛。
China supplies a few Kalashnikovs and RPGs to terrorists and nuclear bombs and missiles to Pak Army and thereby ensures She (China)is not forced to deploy six divisions in Tibet. That is a very smart game. We, on the contrary are not galvanizing Tibet. Nehru psychosis still lingers on. I feel we must force China commit ten PLA divisions in Tibet. Let us indulge in manpower intensive games and frustrate Chinese designs of attaining deterrance by technology. There we can match and not money intensive games which we do not have that much.
中国提供一些Kalashnikovs和RPGs给恐怖分子和核弹和导弹到朴军队和从而保证她(中国)没有在西藏被迫使部署六个师。那是一场非常聪明的比赛。 我们，相反不镀锌西藏。 Nehru精神病仍然徘徊。 我感到我们必须迫使中国调拨十个PLA师在西藏。让我们沉溺于人力密集的比赛和由技术挫败获得的deterrance中国设计。 那里我们可以配比我们没有而不是的金钱密集的比赛。
China supplies a few Kalashnikovs and RPGs to terrorists and nuclear bombs and missiles to Pak Army and thereby ensures She (China)is not forced to deploy six divisions in Tibet. That is a very smart game. We, on the contrary are not galvanizing Tibet. Nehru psychosis still lingers on. I feel we must force China commit ten PLA divisions in Tibet. Let us indulge in manpower intensive games and frustrate Chinese designs of attaining deterrance by technology. There we can match and not money intensive games which we do not have that much.
怎么越看越糊涂！
腾出的6个师原是在巴基斯坦，孟加拉国!?
咖喱海军溜达到东北亚巡航呗。。。
确实很让人意外，南日本海应该属于日本，俄罗斯，韩国和朝鲜的势力范围内吧，当然，这其中也应该包括中国的潜艇部队在内。本以为他会刻意针对中国南海，但没想到竟然会是南日本海，看来印度海军的野心确实不小啊！
确实很让人意外，南日本海应该属于日本，俄罗斯，韩国和朝鲜的势力范围内吧，当然，这其中也应该包括中国的潜艇部队在内。本以为他会刻意针对中国南海，但没想到竟然会是南日本海，看来印度海军的野心确实不小啊！
原帖由 fengshou 于 2009-2-16 13:05 发表
迫使中国在西藏部署10个师，而印度能腾出那六个师来，就可以部署到索马里／阿富汗／菲律宾。
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这句话是怎么理解？
我也看不懂，他为什么会这么想
难道他希望中国去帮助承担印度北部的防务，
然后由印度军队去承担世界的维和任务？
是不是想着菲律宾是他的天然盟友啊
当年中国第一代领导人要与印度交好，但是印度自己是个政治婴儿，以为跟着美苏一起整中国，对自己有好处
现在就是这个结果了
现在就是这个结果了
水下航速30－34节;funk
这是哪个星球的科技?
这是哪个星球的科技?
什么蛋蛋这么生猛？
越看越觉得是谣言.
原帖由 Goalmoon 于 2009-2-16 18:19 发表
号称试验性质的ATV（“高级技术展示”）核潜艇最高水下航速30－34节;funk
这是哪个星球的科技?
这没什么，苏联的P级能跑到44，功率够大就行。
擦了神油就是不一样啊:D
原帖由 dacii 于 2009-2-16 13:08 发表 [url=http://bbs.cjdby.net/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=18865243&ptid=585222][img]反正是莫名其妙：
中国提供一些Kalashnikovs和RPGs给恐怖分子和核弹和导弹到朴军队和从而保证她(中国)没有在西藏被迫使部署六个师。那是一场非常聪明的比赛。 我们，相反不镀锌西藏。 Nehru精神病仍然徘徊。 我感到我们必须迫使中国调拨十个PLA师在西藏。让我们沉溺于人力密集的比赛和由技术挫败获得的deterrance中国设计。 那里我们可以配比我们没有而不是的金钱密集的比赛。
China supplies a few Kalashnikovs and RPGs to terrorists and nuclear bombs and missiles to Pak Army and thereby ensures She (China)is not forced to deploy six divisions in Tibet. That is a very smart game. We, on the contrary are not galvanizing Tibet. Nehru psychosis still lingers on. I feel we must force China commit ten PLA divisions in Tibet. Let us indulge in manpower intensive games and frustrate Chinese designs of attaining deterrance by technology. There we can match and not money intensive games which we do not have that much.
这译得真是乱七八糟的，刚好把意思译反了。
“中国向恐怖分子供应AK47与RPG，向巴基斯坦军队供应核武与导弹，这样中国就用不着非得在西藏布置六个师了。这是个非常聪明的行动。我们恰然相反并没有在西藏搞事----尼赫鲁的阴影依然在徘徊。我觉得我们必须迫使中国在西藏调防十个师，......
"
切，谁吃饱了撑的人工翻译？
"我觉得我们必须迫使中国在西藏调防十个师，......"
这上将长脑子没???
这上将长脑子没???
不是上将说的，是回复里的陆军小军官的美好愿望。。。
海军采购坦克做甚？海军陆战队使用么？:o
在 中国没有部署军队的时候 A3弄6个师在那顶着 。。。中国部署了10个师的时候A3又把6个师撤走。。。。这不是自寻死路吗？？
捞美人鱼是说印度洋反潜那假新闻吧，这阿三粪青到脑残，假新闻也要挣个臭面子，菲律宾住军是说菲律宾要抢南沙被T G 吓退了想去帮忙吧。
原帖由 dacii 于 2009-2-16 13:08 发表
反正是莫名其妙：
中国提供一些Kalashnikovs和RPGs给恐怖分子和核弹和导弹到朴军队和从而保证她(中国)没有在西藏被迫使部署六个师。那是一场非常聪明的比赛。 我们，相反不镀锌西藏。 Nehru精神病仍然徘徊。 我感 ...
咱们不用机器翻译行么？看着太蛋疼了..........“我们，相反不镀锌西藏。 Nehru精神病仍然徘徊。”这是什么玩意儿啊:L
"俄国”鲨鱼”7500吨使用的是190MW的反应堆"[:a3:]
这么变态？
霉帝的‘海狼’最大输出功率不到50MW （一说是44MW ）
俄毛的‘鲨鱼’190MW就算有水份，折算去一半也将近‘海狼’1倍 [:a3:]
这么变态？
霉帝的‘海狼’最大输出功率不到50MW （一说是44MW ）
俄毛的‘鲨鱼’190MW就算有水份，折算去一半也将近‘海狼’1倍 [:a3:]
阿三说的。它们自己的还90MW呢。
那阿三粪青的意思大概是这样的，现在TG牢牢控制着西藏，再通过小巴来威胁阿三，迫使阿三在那一带部署大量兵力。那阿三粪青应该是想在西藏扶植个什么势力迫使TG在西藏投入十个师，从而无力威胁印度，印度就能把那边的兵力抽到别处去
原帖由 henrychenwei 于 2009-2-16 23:09 发表
海军采购坦克做甚？海军陆战队使用么？:o
可以用来制造人工珊瑚礁，扩大某些海岛。:D
阿三的真实实力其实欧美都明白，所以给他那么多东西，知道他们想山寨也山寨不出来。