超级军网美国的人权就是这样的. 尿急未唱爱国歌曲 被赶出棒球 ...
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楼主是假新闻，美国没有人权问题，完全是中国媒体杜撰的～～～～～～～～～
原帖由 忠国恭民 于 2008-8-29 13:48 发表
楼主是假新闻，美国没有人权问题，完全是中国媒体杜撰的～～～～～～～～～
对对对，我们一定要举报楼主捏造新闻丑化伟大的美帝！:D :D
原帖由 忠国恭民 于 2008-8-29 13:48 发表
楼主是假新闻，美国没有人权问题，完全是中国媒体杜撰的～～～～～～～～～
肯定是造谣！
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肯定是造谣！
工资怎么也得一块吧？！
工资怎么也得一块吧？！
喂喂，CIA也是要预算的，地主家也没余粮啊.....:D :D
打倒美帝国主义 。。。
这么拙劣的造假手段啊？凭这个就想磨灭美帝在我们心中的形象的？？:D
幻觉都是幻觉:D :D ;P
倒是不用上纲上线啦，保不齐只是那两个条子都是贱B罢了……
这个世界上啊，社会制度虽然千差万别，人却大抵都一个球样儿
这个世界上啊，社会制度虽然千差万别，人却大抵都一个球样儿
这是那心中的明灯么？诬陷，造谣，一定是你们这些坏淫的栽赃，陷害;P ;P ;P
这两位警察朋友颇有当年革命小将的风范啊～～～:D :D
:D ...
还是看原文出处是哪里吧...
别是MK800的徒弟写出来的
还是看原文出处是哪里吧...
别是MK800的徒弟写出来的
美国警察做的并不错， 如果中国的某球赛全场起立唱国歌， 这时候有人跑出来要撒尿，你是警察你去劝， 这时这人说老子要撒尿，我才不管TMD老天爱不爱中国， 我肯定也火往上撞： 你丫的不爱这个国家就出去！
有血性有火气的人别的国家也有
有血性有火气的人别的国家也有
很多东西不关什么制度的事， 社会是人的社会，在模糊地带都有自己的价值观来决定行为
首先严重质疑这个消息的真实性.
看棒球的肯定有外国人。难道要外国人也跟着唱“天佑美国”
------在美国，到棒球球场看球 {会被强迫唱} 爱国歌曲“保佑美国”。
据悉 ，自从911发生后，职棒大联盟要求各球场在每一场球赛的第7局中场 {播放} 爱国歌曲“天佑美国”，第二年大联盟放宽规定，仅要求周末及假日的比赛播放该曲。-----
从上面些文字可以看出这个新闻有多么不可信。究竟是要大家表情庄严的行注目礼呢。还是如标题描述的那样强迫所有人唱这首歌呢。如果是强迫外国朋友也跟着唱本国的爱国歌曲。那自然是不合适
被赶出去关键是他那句："我尿急.我不关心上帝爱不爱美国。"
这个在美国是很大忌讳。美国大都信上帝。这样简直就和在穆斯林国家吃猪肉一样。而且播放歌曲的目的已经说了。是要大家记住还在前线的军队和记住恐怖分子的暴行。这么严肃的事情。你给这么来一句。
在我看来。只是遭到驱逐。没被暴打一顿算便宜了。
想想看。如果在我们某些类似的场合。比如纪念512地震死难的人，你给来一句：“我尿急，我不关心他们怎么去死。” 被驱逐很难理解么。
看棒球的肯定有外国人。难道要外国人也跟着唱“天佑美国”
------在美国，到棒球球场看球 {会被强迫唱} 爱国歌曲“保佑美国”。
据悉 ，自从911发生后，职棒大联盟要求各球场在每一场球赛的第7局中场 {播放} 爱国歌曲“天佑美国”，第二年大联盟放宽规定，仅要求周末及假日的比赛播放该曲。-----
从上面些文字可以看出这个新闻有多么不可信。究竟是要大家表情庄严的行注目礼呢。还是如标题描述的那样强迫所有人唱这首歌呢。如果是强迫外国朋友也跟着唱本国的爱国歌曲。那自然是不合适
被赶出去关键是他那句："我尿急.我不关心上帝爱不爱美国。"
这个在美国是很大忌讳。美国大都信上帝。这样简直就和在穆斯林国家吃猪肉一样。而且播放歌曲的目的已经说了。是要大家记住还在前线的军队和记住恐怖分子的暴行。这么严肃的事情。你给这么来一句。
在我看来。只是遭到驱逐。没被暴打一顿算便宜了。
想想看。如果在我们某些类似的场合。比如纪念512地震死难的人，你给来一句：“我尿急，我不关心他们怎么去死。” 被驱逐很难理解么。
原帖由 魔鬼小猪 于 2008-8-29 17:16 发表
:D ...
还是看原文出处是哪里吧...
别是MK800的徒弟写出来的
http://udn.com/NEWS/WORLD/WOR4/4494767.shtml
只要有洋基队的新闻，WW都不会放过的。
LZ啊。希望下次有人在自由女神像脚下刻字被驱逐的时候。你不要再把类似的问题和人权扯上。
人权的定义，你不懂可以问狗狗，或者百毒啊。
人权的定义，你不懂可以问狗狗，或者百毒啊。
Bradford Campeau-Laurion, a 29-year-old man from Astoria, Queens, and a director of web production for a "major website" who made the unfortunate decision to blatantly disregard "God Bless America" and hit the head. He was dealt with swiftly and aggressively by Steinbrenner's Red, White, And Blue Muscle. I left a message with Yankees media relations for their comments on this, but it's probably safe to assume that they'll only react to this if Brad here makes a colossal stink over it.
Brad's detailed, irate, email is after the jump.
Deadspin Editors,
I attempted to get up to use the restroom, rather urgently, during the 7th inning stretch as God Bless America was beginning. As I attempted to walk down the aisle and exit my section into the tunnel, I was stopped by a police officer. He informed me that I had to wait until the song was over. I responded that I had to use the restroom and that I did not care about God Bless America.
As soon as the latter came out of my mouth, my right arm was twisted violenty behind my back and I was informed that I was being escorted out of the stadium. A second officer then joined in and twisted my left arm, also in an excessively forceful manner, behind my back. I informed them they were violating my First Amendment rights and that I had done nothing wrong, with no response from them.
I was sitting in the Tier Level, and of course this is the highest level of the stadium and I was escorted in this painful manner down the entire length of the stadium. About halfway down, I informed them that they were hurting me, repeated that I had done nothing wrong, and that I was not resisting nor talking back to them. One of them said something to the effect that if I continued to speak, he would find a way to hurt me more.
When we reached the exit of the stadium, they confiscated my ticket and the first officer shoved me through the turnstiles, saying "Get the hell out of my country if you don't like it."
Nowhere on the Yankee Stadium ticket policy nor on any posted sign does it say that forced patriotism is a required element to attend a baseball game. Nowhere in the laws of this country would that begin to be defensible.
Furthermore, when the two officers returned to their section, Steve who was still in the stadium overhead one of the officers say "We got to watch ourselves. One day we're really gonna get in trouble." They were also spreading rumors with a fan with whom they were friendly that I had said "This country sucks."
I do not believe in God, nor am in support of this country to a degree of patriotic fanaticism. The fact that I wanted to use the restroom instead of standing through God Bless America should not be grounds for a forcible ejection from a baseball game.
I spoke with Brad on the phone and he seems like a reasonable enough man, albeit one with a little bit of an anarchist bent (and, yes, he's a Red Sox fan) but he didn't sound like the type of guy to either embellish the incident in his favor or make it up. We had a quick e-mail q-and-a just to clarify a few things:
DS: Did you feel like you had gave security more reason than normal to act aggressively toward you?
No, I did not. Regardless of what I said, I did not act in a threatening manner, nor step toward the officer in a threatening manner. I just made my statement and attempted to continue to walk into the tunnel toward the restroom. I was given no opportunity to explain myself further, nor any explanation from the officer before my arm was being pinned behind my back.
DS: Were you aware of the "no movement" policy before you attempted to go to the bathroom?
I was not aware. People did not seem to be moving at the time, but I thought it was more a function of the fact that a lot of people at the stadium are rabid patriots rather than an actual policy.
DS: How many Yankees games have you attended and have you ever gotten up to go to the bathroom before?
I have probably attended an average of 8-10 Yankee games per year over the last 8 years. I have used the restroom countless times, though I do not recall ever trying to do so at the exact moment I did last night.
DS: Are you planning on suing Yankee stadium or do you just want them to eliminate the stupid policy?
I have contacted Normal Siegel (public advocate - http://normansiegel.com/) and the New York chapter of the ACLU. I have not discussed my options with them and I don't know my long term plans at this time. I want people to be aware of the forced patriotism that is happening here, a clear violation of First Amendment rights and something that should be kept wholly separate from attending a baseball game. To my knowledge, Yankee Stadium is the only stadium in the major leagues with this policy, let alone still playing God Bless America in the 7th inning stretch.
UPDATE: So, where did you end up going to the bathroom?
Ended up just getting on the train and holding it until I got to my girlfriend's place on 90th and Lex. Probably about another 45 minutes.
http://deadspin.com/5042588/so-y ... ng-rather-seriously
Brad's detailed, irate, email is after the jump.
Deadspin Editors,
I attempted to get up to use the restroom, rather urgently, during the 7th inning stretch as God Bless America was beginning. As I attempted to walk down the aisle and exit my section into the tunnel, I was stopped by a police officer. He informed me that I had to wait until the song was over. I responded that I had to use the restroom and that I did not care about God Bless America.
As soon as the latter came out of my mouth, my right arm was twisted violenty behind my back and I was informed that I was being escorted out of the stadium. A second officer then joined in and twisted my left arm, also in an excessively forceful manner, behind my back. I informed them they were violating my First Amendment rights and that I had done nothing wrong, with no response from them.
I was sitting in the Tier Level, and of course this is the highest level of the stadium and I was escorted in this painful manner down the entire length of the stadium. About halfway down, I informed them that they were hurting me, repeated that I had done nothing wrong, and that I was not resisting nor talking back to them. One of them said something to the effect that if I continued to speak, he would find a way to hurt me more.
When we reached the exit of the stadium, they confiscated my ticket and the first officer shoved me through the turnstiles, saying "Get the hell out of my country if you don't like it."
Nowhere on the Yankee Stadium ticket policy nor on any posted sign does it say that forced patriotism is a required element to attend a baseball game. Nowhere in the laws of this country would that begin to be defensible.
Furthermore, when the two officers returned to their section, Steve who was still in the stadium overhead one of the officers say "We got to watch ourselves. One day we're really gonna get in trouble." They were also spreading rumors with a fan with whom they were friendly that I had said "This country sucks."
I do not believe in God, nor am in support of this country to a degree of patriotic fanaticism. The fact that I wanted to use the restroom instead of standing through God Bless America should not be grounds for a forcible ejection from a baseball game.
I spoke with Brad on the phone and he seems like a reasonable enough man, albeit one with a little bit of an anarchist bent (and, yes, he's a Red Sox fan) but he didn't sound like the type of guy to either embellish the incident in his favor or make it up. We had a quick e-mail q-and-a just to clarify a few things:
DS: Did you feel like you had gave security more reason than normal to act aggressively toward you?
No, I did not. Regardless of what I said, I did not act in a threatening manner, nor step toward the officer in a threatening manner. I just made my statement and attempted to continue to walk into the tunnel toward the restroom. I was given no opportunity to explain myself further, nor any explanation from the officer before my arm was being pinned behind my back.
DS: Were you aware of the "no movement" policy before you attempted to go to the bathroom?
I was not aware. People did not seem to be moving at the time, but I thought it was more a function of the fact that a lot of people at the stadium are rabid patriots rather than an actual policy.
DS: How many Yankees games have you attended and have you ever gotten up to go to the bathroom before?
I have probably attended an average of 8-10 Yankee games per year over the last 8 years. I have used the restroom countless times, though I do not recall ever trying to do so at the exact moment I did last night.
DS: Are you planning on suing Yankee stadium or do you just want them to eliminate the stupid policy?
I have contacted Normal Siegel (public advocate - http://normansiegel.com/) and the New York chapter of the ACLU. I have not discussed my options with them and I don't know my long term plans at this time. I want people to be aware of the forced patriotism that is happening here, a clear violation of First Amendment rights and something that should be kept wholly separate from attending a baseball game. To my knowledge, Yankee Stadium is the only stadium in the major leagues with this policy, let alone still playing God Bless America in the 7th inning stretch.
UPDATE: So, where did you end up going to the bathroom?
Ended up just getting on the train and holding it until I got to my girlfriend's place on 90th and Lex. Probably about another 45 minutes.
http://deadspin.com/5042588/so-y ... ng-rather-seriously
我们一起做个坛子，立个幡子招魂吧。。。。。
魂兮归来。。。。魂兮归来。。。。。
魂兮归来。。。。魂兮归来。。。。。
在美国、就是高唱爱国歌曲 ＞人权＋ 尿权吗。LZ説得没有錯吗:handshake :handshake
覚得有問題的、自己去MG作个実験不就得了。;P ;P
冷嘲热讽干啥？:@ :@
覚得有問題的、自己去MG作个実験不就得了。;P ;P
冷嘲热讽干啥？:@ :@
这是原创作品
原帖由 yghaoren 于 2008-8-29 18:02 发表
我们一起做个坛子，立个幡子招魂吧。。。。。
魂兮归来。。。。魂兮归来。。。。。
应该这么喊
“皇道派……共和党……大波波……勃列日涅夫……魏巍……萨哈夫……张召忠……爱国贼们统统魂兮归来，魂兮归来。呜呼哀哉尚飨”:D :D
民主自由的国家连撒尿权都没有了吗?肯定是假新闻!:D
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北棒子国家，估计在唱国歌时谁敢放个屁那也是个现行反GM.家属都要签连．
原帖由 老猫点点 于 2008-8-29 19:26 发表
北棒子国家，估计在唱国歌时谁敢放个屁那也是个现行反GM.家属都要签连．
========看来美国和北棒子有一拼哦!!!!;P ;P
原文
http://news.xinhuanet.com/world/2008-08/29/content_9733226.htm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/world/2008-08/29/content_9733226.htm
原帖由 老猫点点 于 2008-8-29 19:26 发表
北棒子国家，估计在唱国歌时谁敢放个屁那也是个现行反GM.家属都要签连．
那不是和美国一样了
原帖由 GBYY 于 2008-8-29 19:33 发表
那不是和美国一样了
一个是趋离出场，并没说你犯哪一条法而判你去坐牢，保不定觉的不公你还可以起诉．另一个则是现行反GM，轻的去坐牢，重的去枪必，家人亲友和你同罪，虽然没一条法律说你犯了哪条罪，但照样判你还不带给上诉机会．这两条不知你选哪样．
更何况，拿五毛们常说的一句话就是：小概率事件．貌视这警察过敏了点．不代表普遍是这样．
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原帖由 巡航导弹轰炸机 于 2008-8-29 20:08 发表
别转移话题，这招不灵，本帖讨论的是美国，美国，美国OK?
呵呵，美帝国主义又做啥坏事了，让你这么急？你慢慢说，我听着．
关我屁事，我是来尿尿的
原帖由 老猫点点 于 2008-8-29 19:54 发表
更何况，拿五毛们常说的一句话就是：小概率事件．貌视这警察过敏了点．不代表普遍是这样．
拿对和谐国的标准来给伟光正的米国开脱?:D
原帖由 jg0083 于 2008-8-29 20:44 发表
拿对和谐国的标准来给伟光正的米国开脱?:D
美帝国为啥被伟光正国叫做帝国主义，而不叫社会主义，就是因为他不够伟光正不够和血．
原帖由 老猫点点 于 2008-8-29 20:49 发表
美帝国为啥被伟光正国叫做帝国主义，而不叫社会主义，就是因为他不够伟光正不够和血．
每到米国的伟光正受到挑战之时,必会有右手自贬为左拿来和谐国比,壮哉和谐,怯宰米帝(之信徒):D
原帖由 jg0083 于 2008-8-29 20:53 发表
每到米国的伟光正受到挑战之时,必会有右手自贬为左拿来和谐国比,壮哉和谐,怯宰米帝(之信徒):D
没事做别人信徒的那些人，怕是自己早已迷失了自我吧．当他用替利益集团说话来换取一份安怡生活时，他大概也只能和最广大人民群众划清界线了．这种人无所谓有没有思想．也无所谓左派还是右派．在每一个专制社会都有这样的人，既非左也非右．
原帖由 隔夜茶 于 2008-8-29 17:34 发表
美国警察做的并不错， 如果中国的某球赛全场起立唱国歌， 这时候有人跑出来要撒尿，你是警察你去劝， 这时这人说老子要撒尿，我才不管TMD老天爱不爱中国， 我肯定也火往上撞： 你丫的不爱这个国家就出去！
有血性 ...
那肯定就会被归为制度问题专制国家的不讲人权的典范了:D