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1.美东华人联谊会起草了一封给CNN的抗议信，号召华人都往CNN发
http://www.sinovision.net/news.p ... 3&news_id=42860
email很容易被挡，因此很多人用传真。据说传真已经拨不通了，现在号召用平信了。
2.纽约时报一个专栏作家说要写关于中国的文章，希望听到中国人的意见
http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com ... ng-china/index.html
尽管，中国人上去都是用英文，但是文笔真牛，水平和上去说话的老外一比，高下立判，人才真是多阿。1.美东华人联谊会起草了一封给CNN的抗议信，号召华人都往CNN发
http://www.sinovision.net/news.p ... 3&news_id=42860
email很容易被挡，因此很多人用传真。据说传真已经拨不通了，现在号召用平信了。
2.纽约时报一个专栏作家说要写关于中国的文章，希望听到中国人的意见
http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com ... ng-china/index.html
尽管，中国人上去都是用英文，但是文笔真牛，水平和上去说话的老外一比，高下立判，人才真是多阿。
http://www.sinovision.net/news.p ... 3&news_id=42860
email很容易被挡，因此很多人用传真。据说传真已经拨不通了，现在号召用平信了。
2.纽约时报一个专栏作家说要写关于中国的文章，希望听到中国人的意见
http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com ... ng-china/index.html
尽管，中国人上去都是用英文，但是文笔真牛，水平和上去说话的老外一比，高下立判，人才真是多阿。1.美东华人联谊会起草了一封给CNN的抗议信，号召华人都往CNN发
http://www.sinovision.net/news.p ... 3&news_id=42860
email很容易被挡，因此很多人用传真。据说传真已经拨不通了，现在号召用平信了。
2.纽约时报一个专栏作家说要写关于中国的文章，希望听到中国人的意见
http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com ... ng-china/index.html
尽管，中国人上去都是用英文，但是文笔真牛，水平和上去说话的老外一比，高下立判，人才真是多阿。
支持！大家也去支持啊。
都;funk 是英文
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Nicholas, you are someone who travelled around the world and you have written extensively about China. In general I have enjoyed your writings as they come across thoughtful and more balanced as compared to the main stream western media.
I have been following the Tibetan situation extensively since the 3/14 riots in Lhasa. I read news and comments both in Chinese and English, and I have lived in both China and USA for many years and travelled back and forth very frequently in recent years. I also travelled to the Tibetan regions once a couple of years ago. In a way, I have some advantge in trying to reach some sensible conclusions on the huge gap between the perception in the west and that in China (in fact, in Chinese population worldwide). To not fall into the trap that most of the western media have done lately, I have a few suggestions for you to consider.
(1.) Try to be objective. Need to realize that peaceful protests turned into deadly riots on 3/14 in Lhasa, then the armed police moved in to restore order. They used tear gas, not guns. This fact is pretty well established if you spend time doing some research.
(2.) Try not to have double standard. Ask yourself a simple question - what would the US government do in a similar situation ? I think that citizens in this country would also expect the police to restore order and take necessary measures to calm the situation. Both China and USA are ruled by law. Then ask the second question, which part of Chinese government’s behavior in their handling of the recent unrest in the Tibetan regions of China is really troublesome ? Again, do not use double standard.
(3.) Study the history of Tibet. Type “Tibet” in Google search, and read about Tibet on, say, Wikipedia, you can get a pretty good idea about Tibetan history. The conclusion is pretty clear, Tibet has been part of China for at least 7 centuries, it has not been an indepedent nation even when China was very poor and busy with civil wars before 1949.
(4.) Having established Tibet as part of China, now spend some time studying the history of China, focus on the part since 1840. Now you will understand why Chinese people are hyper sensitive about western countries’ attempt to split Tibet away from China. Any government in power would have to defend territorial integrity. Look at all the articles in the western media, so many of them in the west refers to Tibet as if it were an indepedent country before communists took over in 1950. Chinese people want to have a successful Olympic, but if they have to choose Olympic vs. territorial integrity, there should be no doubt that they will defend the latter.
(5.) Study the 14th Dalai Lama, study his deeds vs. words, ask some questions, put some scrunity on this man and his associates. On March 16th, two days after the deadly riots in Lsaha, he held a press conference and effectively encouraged his followers in Tibet to continue whatever they were doing, which to me sounds like instigating violence. I believe that Chinese government will be able to produce a lot of evidences to link the rioters to the Dalai Lama’s people. So be careful here if you try to defend Dalai Lama. In China, most people believe that he is someone who is knowlingly and willingly being used by the anti-China forces in the western world.
(6.) Biased, even outright dishonest reporting by western media hurts the integrity of journalistic profession. It is also bad busines, I would argue. Americans will do business with China, and more so in the future. The way things are going these days, the mainstream western media will have lost their credibility soon with 1.3B of world’s population, more if counting some people outside of China who have independent judgement. It may take a generation to re-build trust and confidence unless the media corrects themselves rather quickly.
(7.) Most of westerners have got Tibet wrong in terms of what people need there and what caused the unrest. It is really not about religous freedom or cultural heritage for average Tibetans. It is the economy. Like everyone else, Tibetans want to live a good life. Similar to many places around the world these days, as a result of globalization, the gap between the “have’s” and “have not’s” is widening, and there is a lot of discontent (even here in America). The Dalai Lama’s people have taken advantage of this underlying discontent and stirred up the unrest in Tibet. But remember, Dalai Lama can cause trouble, but he can not and will not bring the solution to the root problems in Tibet. The cause of Tibetan Independence will die a slow death due to lack of market, even amongst the Tibetans. The solution is economic development, and a just and fair social system to ensure that all of the Tibetan society can benefit from the fruits of the economic and social development.
(8.) China is not an enemy of US, I know it from my own experience. American people and Chinese people share a great deal in common, and the history between the two countries were not bad at all. America just needs to get used to working with a stronger, more confident China. China’s growth has been, and will be good to US. The two countries have a lot to learn from each other. There are a lot of good things in this country that China has been gradually copying. America should also learn a thing from China - focus on developing your own country, like China has been doing the last 30 years, rather than spend so much energy and money in flexing muscle oveaseas in places like Iraq.
It does take courage and vision, though, to constantly smooth things out between these two great countries. Enlightened people like yourself can play a positive role !
— Posted by Eugene Zhao
Nicholas, you are someone who travelled around the world and you have written extensively about China. In general I have enjoyed your writings as they come across thoughtful and more balanced as compared to the main stream western media.
I have been following the Tibetan situation extensively since the 3/14 riots in Lhasa. I read news and comments both in Chinese and English, and I have lived in both China and USA for many years and travelled back and forth very frequently in recent years. I also travelled to the Tibetan regions once a couple of years ago. In a way, I have some advantge in trying to reach some sensible conclusions on the huge gap between the perception in the west and that in China (in fact, in Chinese population worldwide). To not fall into the trap that most of the western media have done lately, I have a few suggestions for you to consider.
(1.) Try to be objective. Need to realize that peaceful protests turned into deadly riots on 3/14 in Lhasa, then the armed police moved in to restore order. They used tear gas, not guns. This fact is pretty well established if you spend time doing some research.
(2.) Try not to have double standard. Ask yourself a simple question - what would the US government do in a similar situation ? I think that citizens in this country would also expect the police to restore order and take necessary measures to calm the situation. Both China and USA are ruled by law. Then ask the second question, which part of Chinese government’s behavior in their handling of the recent unrest in the Tibetan regions of China is really troublesome ? Again, do not use double standard.
(3.) Study the history of Tibet. Type “Tibet” in Google search, and read about Tibet on, say, Wikipedia, you can get a pretty good idea about Tibetan history. The conclusion is pretty clear, Tibet has been part of China for at least 7 centuries, it has not been an indepedent nation even when China was very poor and busy with civil wars before 1949.
(4.) Having established Tibet as part of China, now spend some time studying the history of China, focus on the part since 1840. Now you will understand why Chinese people are hyper sensitive about western countries’ attempt to split Tibet away from China. Any government in power would have to defend territorial integrity. Look at all the articles in the western media, so many of them in the west refers to Tibet as if it were an indepedent country before communists took over in 1950. Chinese people want to have a successful Olympic, but if they have to choose Olympic vs. territorial integrity, there should be no doubt that they will defend the latter.
(5.) Study the 14th Dalai Lama, study his deeds vs. words, ask some questions, put some scrunity on this man and his associates. On March 16th, two days after the deadly riots in Lsaha, he held a press conference and effectively encouraged his followers in Tibet to continue whatever they were doing, which to me sounds like instigating violence. I believe that Chinese government will be able to produce a lot of evidences to link the rioters to the Dalai Lama’s people. So be careful here if you try to defend Dalai Lama. In China, most people believe that he is someone who is knowlingly and willingly being used by the anti-China forces in the western world.
(6.) Biased, even outright dishonest reporting by western media hurts the integrity of journalistic profession. It is also bad busines, I would argue. Americans will do business with China, and more so in the future. The way things are going these days, the mainstream western media will have lost their credibility soon with 1.3B of world’s population, more if counting some people outside of China who have independent judgement. It may take a generation to re-build trust and confidence unless the media corrects themselves rather quickly.
(7.) Most of westerners have got Tibet wrong in terms of what people need there and what caused the unrest. It is really not about religous freedom or cultural heritage for average Tibetans. It is the economy. Like everyone else, Tibetans want to live a good life. Similar to many places around the world these days, as a result of globalization, the gap between the “have’s” and “have not’s” is widening, and there is a lot of discontent (even here in America). The Dalai Lama’s people have taken advantage of this underlying discontent and stirred up the unrest in Tibet. But remember, Dalai Lama can cause trouble, but he can not and will not bring the solution to the root problems in Tibet. The cause of Tibetan Independence will die a slow death due to lack of market, even amongst the Tibetans. The solution is economic development, and a just and fair social system to ensure that all of the Tibetan society can benefit from the fruits of the economic and social development.
(8.) China is not an enemy of US, I know it from my own experience. American people and Chinese people share a great deal in common, and the history between the two countries were not bad at all. America just needs to get used to working with a stronger, more confident China. China’s growth has been, and will be good to US. The two countries have a lot to learn from each other. There are a lot of good things in this country that China has been gradually copying. America should also learn a thing from China - focus on developing your own country, like China has been doing the last 30 years, rather than spend so much energy and money in flexing muscle oveaseas in places like Iraq.
It does take courage and vision, though, to constantly smooth things out between these two great countries. Enlightened people like yourself can play a positive role !
— Posted by Eugene Zhao
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Zhao写的是实话，这就好了
原帖由 格栅马甲 于 2008-4-1 22:57 发表
搜了一下，那个专栏作家Nicholas D. Kristof 原来是06年普利策奖的评论奖得主。
不过，像所有历史遗留问题一样，这个问题也太复杂了，牵涉到太多的东西。不说写好这个题目，光是引用的史料不出现明显的小辫子就已经 ...
Zhao写得很好啊，他列出的东西正是西方人喜欢忽略的。
Zhao提出的是建议，何来空洞和官方口气？
不过他的文笔，相对来说不算好的。
还是很空的，，，不过文笔已经很不错了，当然文学专业的除外。
:L 上图有事实
zhao的逻辑和表达方式还是中国人习惯的，，，和霉国人说话，要specify，，，洋人在profession&specialist的教导下，已经很退化了。看看那个立陶宛人的表达方式，，，:)
就是因为看了NYT那个链接，搞得我今天早上6点才睡的。眼都花了！
:victory: 我都同意。
wow!
NYT那个原来都有那么多人回复了。
太赞了。:victory:
NYT那个原来都有那么多人回复了。
太赞了。:victory:
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