巴基斯坦购买中国J-10的官方新闻 原文!

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<strong>Pakistan to buy 98 hi-tech aircraft from US and China</strong> <br/><font class="NormalText"><strong>MUSHTAQ GHUMMAN</strong></font> <div class="normaltext" align="justify">ISLAMABAD (April 13 2006): Pakistan will purchase 98 hi-tech aircraft from the United States and China besides missiles and other equipment to improve the capabilities of Pakistan Air Force (PAF).<br/><br/>According to an official document, exclusively obtained by <i>Business Recorder</i>, mixed package of hi-tech aircraft and equipment is being purchased from USA and China are as under:<br/><br/>FC-20 aircraft (36), SD-10 BVR missiles (300), F-16 A/B, ex-Pakistan (26), F-16 C/D (18 with an option for 18 more), BVR, 500(American), targeting pods 18 and joint direct attack munitions (500).<br/><br/>The expenditure on the entire package would be met from PAF share in Armed Forces Development Programme (AFFDP-2019), the document says. The Cabinet, according to the document, has allowed PAF to set up Joint Working Group (JWG) with CATIC for procurement of 36 FC-20 aircraft.<br/><br/>The government would also help PAF in securing long-term credit financing for the FC-20 aircraft from Chinese government, besides allowing PAF to initiate a Letter of Request (LoR) for the F-16 package and equipment through the Defence Ministry.<br/><br/>While elaborating the background, Defence Ministry said that PAF gave a presentation to the President and Prime Minister on the state of present fighter fleet and its various hi-tech aircraft options on March 31, 2006.<br/><br/>At present, PAF's combat fleet consists of around 350 aircraft. The bulk of its inventory comprises old Mirages and Chinese-origin A-5, FT-6 and F-7 aircraft. With the exception of F-7 PGs, most of these aircraft are more than 20 years old and are scheduled to retire between 2008 and 2015.<br/><br/>Foreseeing this retirement schedule and the known difficulties associated with replacing all old aircraft with western equipment, PAF embarked upon the co-development of JF-17 aircraft. The induction of JF-17 has been planned so as to have a systematic replacement of the retired fleet.<br/><br/>Regarding hi-tech capability, PAF has seriously lagged over the years, mainly due to various geo-political and economic constraints. In order to redress this capability deficit, PAF has very carefully evaluated the hi-tech options against well-defined air staff requirements.<br/><br/>The requirement of multi-role aircraft with effective and modern operational capabilities, supportability, maintainability and other factors were thoroughly evaluated during the trials of available hi-tech options. In this regard, three aircraft namely, Chinese FC-20, USF-16 C/D and Swedish Grippen were evaluated.<br/><br/>While the US F-16 C/D and Swedish Grippen qualified against the PAF requirements, the Chinese FC-20, in its present state, lagged behind due to the lack of advanced avionics systems and weapons. For the future, however, PAF termed it as a good option with very promising growth potential to become one of the leading frontline fighters to face the challenges of the 21st century.<br/><br/>Further, due to the high cost of Grippen, the F-16 weapon system, along with air-to-air BVR missiles was considered to be the most suitable option to immediately address the critical capability deficit that PAF has accumulated vis-?vis IAF.<br/><br/>The document suggests that the President had directed the Defence Ministry to move a summary for the Cabinet directing the Ministries of Defence and Foreign Affairs to adopt proactive approach to influence the United States and Chinese Governments for the release of the requisite package.</div><div class="normaltext" align="justify">&nbsp;</div><div class="normaltext" align="justify">&nbsp;</div><div class="normaltext" align="justify">称中国出口型J-10为FC-20 ?</div><div class="normaltext" align="justify">&nbsp;</div><div class="normaltext" align="justify">英文好的朋友翻译一下吧</div><strong>Pakistan to buy 98 hi-tech aircraft from US and China</strong> <br/><font class="NormalText"><strong>MUSHTAQ GHUMMAN</strong></font> <div class="normaltext" align="justify">ISLAMABAD (April 13 2006): Pakistan will purchase 98 hi-tech aircraft from the United States and China besides missiles and other equipment to improve the capabilities of Pakistan Air Force (PAF).<br/><br/>According to an official document, exclusively obtained by <i>Business Recorder</i>, mixed package of hi-tech aircraft and equipment is being purchased from USA and China are as under:<br/><br/>FC-20 aircraft (36), SD-10 BVR missiles (300), F-16 A/B, ex-Pakistan (26), F-16 C/D (18 with an option for 18 more), BVR, 500(American), targeting pods 18 and joint direct attack munitions (500).<br/><br/>The expenditure on the entire package would be met from PAF share in Armed Forces Development Programme (AFFDP-2019), the document says. The Cabinet, according to the document, has allowed PAF to set up Joint Working Group (JWG) with CATIC for procurement of 36 FC-20 aircraft.<br/><br/>The government would also help PAF in securing long-term credit financing for the FC-20 aircraft from Chinese government, besides allowing PAF to initiate a Letter of Request (LoR) for the F-16 package and equipment through the Defence Ministry.<br/><br/>While elaborating the background, Defence Ministry said that PAF gave a presentation to the President and Prime Minister on the state of present fighter fleet and its various hi-tech aircraft options on March 31, 2006.<br/><br/>At present, PAF's combat fleet consists of around 350 aircraft. The bulk of its inventory comprises old Mirages and Chinese-origin A-5, FT-6 and F-7 aircraft. With the exception of F-7 PGs, most of these aircraft are more than 20 years old and are scheduled to retire between 2008 and 2015.<br/><br/>Foreseeing this retirement schedule and the known difficulties associated with replacing all old aircraft with western equipment, PAF embarked upon the co-development of JF-17 aircraft. The induction of JF-17 has been planned so as to have a systematic replacement of the retired fleet.<br/><br/>Regarding hi-tech capability, PAF has seriously lagged over the years, mainly due to various geo-political and economic constraints. In order to redress this capability deficit, PAF has very carefully evaluated the hi-tech options against well-defined air staff requirements.<br/><br/>The requirement of multi-role aircraft with effective and modern operational capabilities, supportability, maintainability and other factors were thoroughly evaluated during the trials of available hi-tech options. In this regard, three aircraft namely, Chinese FC-20, USF-16 C/D and Swedish Grippen were evaluated.<br/><br/>While the US F-16 C/D and Swedish Grippen qualified against the PAF requirements, the Chinese FC-20, in its present state, lagged behind due to the lack of advanced avionics systems and weapons. For the future, however, PAF termed it as a good option with very promising growth potential to become one of the leading frontline fighters to face the challenges of the 21st century.<br/><br/>Further, due to the high cost of Grippen, the F-16 weapon system, along with air-to-air BVR missiles was considered to be the most suitable option to immediately address the critical capability deficit that PAF has accumulated vis-?vis IAF.<br/><br/>The document suggests that the President had directed the Defence Ministry to move a summary for the Cabinet directing the Ministries of Defence and Foreign Affairs to adopt proactive approach to influence the United States and Chinese Governments for the release of the requisite package.</div><div class="normaltext" align="justify">&nbsp;</div><div class="normaltext" align="justify">&nbsp;</div><div class="normaltext" align="justify">称中国出口型J-10为FC-20 ?</div><div class="normaltext" align="justify">&nbsp;</div><div class="normaltext" align="justify">英文好的朋友翻译一下吧</div>
<p>J10这里丝毫没有提到</p><p>倒是提及一个无知青年难以接受的事实:</p><p>巴基斯坦人明确要求JF17的航电必须是西方产品,发动机是老毛子的,航电是西方的,我们就做壳子还以为能赚钱?还是磨练了队伍?FP!</p>
真的假的啊,这也出口?[em06][em06]
<p>谁都是傻子,就二楼最聪明了</p>
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>cardinalwu</i>在2006-4-13 22:09:00的发言:</b><br/><p>J10这里丝毫没有提到</p><p>倒是提及一个无知青年难以接受的事实:</p><p>巴基斯坦人明确要求JF17的航电必须是西方产品,发动机是老毛子的,航电是西方的,我们就做壳子还以为能赚钱?还是磨练了队伍?FP!</p></div><p></p>不好意思,拜托您在原文之中把涉及到这个“事实”的段落给找出来,谢谢。
<p>一般来说卖零件的是赚不到钱的,卖整机才有油水</p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2006-4-14 11:15:21编辑过]
2楼能否对中文的“航电”做出严谨解释都成问题...另,这是什么刊物?是巴基斯坦版本的航空知识、还是巴基斯坦版本的环球时报、还是巴基斯坦版本的国家航空信息网?这其中的区别大家都知道吧
<p>寒2楼的英文,说得所谓"事实",&nbsp;&nbsp;原文里没有找到啊。</p>
<p>我且翻译一下,不要再说你们找不到了:</p><p>While the US F-16 C/D and Swedish Grippen qualified against the PAF requirements, the Chinese FC-20, in its present state, lagged behind due to the lack of advanced avionics systems and weapons. For the future, however, PAF termed it as a good option with very promising growth potential to become one of the leading frontline fighters to face the challenges of the 21st century.</p><p>尽管美国的F-16C/D以及瑞典的Grippen都满足PAF的要求,中国的FC20,在目前,被缺乏先进的航电系统以及武器(lack of advanced avionics systems and weapons)所拖累,在将来,PAF有规划它(FC20)成为一个面对21世纪挑战的好的可靠的前线战斗机的潜在选项。</p><p></p><p>Foreseeing this retirement schedule and the known difficulties associated with replacing all old aircraft with western equipment, PAF embarked upon the co-development of JF-17 aircraft. The induction of JF-17 has been planned so as to have a systematic replacement of the retired fleet.</p><p>预期这退役计划以及替代具有西方设备的旧飞机的困难,PAF从事JF17的共同开发。JF17的计划就是要系统地替代退役的飞机。<br/>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br/>很明白,巴基斯坦很看重西方的航电设备,我国的航电设备并不合人家的胃口。<br/>FC20如果是J10的话,那就是说,巴方认为国产的J10目前满足不了巴方的需求。(是否有异议?)<br/>显而易见,如果JF17的航电是满足巴方的话,那么它一定是西方的。恩。</p>
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>AMING0</i>在2006-4-14 11:01:00的发言:</b><br/><p>一般来说卖零件的是赚不到钱的,卖整机才有油水</p></div><p></p>当年我国出口约旦的J7M,英国的雷达和除了雷达以外的包括发动机在内的机体一样的价钱
全文没有歼10
<p>来,这里是两家西方的媒体</p><p>路透社,</p><p><a href="http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&amp;storyID=2006-04-13T210439Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-244753-1.xml">http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&amp;storyID=2006-04-13T210439Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-244753-1.xml</a></p><p>英国金融时报</p><p><a href="http://news.ft.com/cms/s/77f14c88-ca52-11da-852f-0000779e2340.html">http://news.ft.com/cms/s/77f14c88-ca52-11da-852f-0000779e2340.html</a></p>
那咱们还吹4号小龙的航电直逼最新的16,国际先进什么的,敢情忽悠军迷的!小巴根本不屑!!![em05]<p></p>
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>重装集团军</i>在2006-4-14 21:02:00的发言:</b><br/>那咱们还吹4号小龙的航电直逼最新的16,国际先进什么的,敢情忽悠军迷的!小巴根本不屑!!![em05] <p></p></div><p>别太早下结论~</p>
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>cardinalwu</i>在2006-4-14 13:11:00的发言:</b><br/><p>我且翻译一下,不要再说你们找不到了:</p><p>While the US F-16 C/D and Swedish Grippen qualified against the PAF requirements, the Chinese FC-20, in its present state, lagged behind due to the lack of advanced avionics systems and weapons. For the future, however, PAF termed it as a good option with very promising growth potential to become one of the leading frontline fighters to face the challenges of the 21st century.</p><p>尽管美国的F-16C/D以及瑞典的Grippen都满足PAF的要求,中国的FC20,在目前,被缺乏先进的航电系统以及武器(lack of advanced avionics systems and weapons)所拖累,在将来,PAF有规划它(FC20)成为一个面对21世纪挑战的好的可靠的前线战斗机的潜在选项。</p><p></p><p>Foreseeing this retirement schedule and the known difficulties associated with replacing all old aircraft with western equipment, PAF embarked upon the co-development of JF-17 aircraft. The induction of JF-17 has been planned so as to have a systematic replacement of the retired fleet.</p><p>预期这退役计划以及替代具有西方设备的旧飞机的困难,PAF从事JF17的共同开发。JF17的计划就是要系统地替代退役的飞机。<br/>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br/>很明白,巴基斯坦很看重西方的航电设备,我国的航电设备并不合人家的胃口。<br/>FC20如果是J10的话,那就是说,巴方认为国产的J10目前满足不了巴方的需求。(是否有异议?)<br/>显而易见,如果JF17的航电是满足巴方的话,那么它一定是西方的。恩。</p></div><p></p><p>[em01]可惜巴空军说他们满意FC1的航电所以头50架将用中国的航电和武器.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>军情观察员</i>在2006-4-14 14:12:00的发言:</b><br/>全文没有歼10</div><p>FC20就是指J10,不同的巴媒体的不同称呼而已!</p>
<p>最有肯能的名字其实是JF20</p>
FC20就是指J10???证据呢?我还说他是发财的改进版呢
FC-20是什么东西?从文中看不是J-10, 所谓“lagged behind due to the lack of advanced avionics systems and weapons”,更像是早期FC-1
最近一期参考消息只说小巴要买发财,只字不提10
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>cardinalwu</i>在2006-4-13 22:09:00的发言:</b><br/><p>倒是提及一个无知青年难以接受的事实:</p><p>巴基斯坦人明确要求JF17的航电必须是西方产品,发动机是老毛子的,航电是西方的,我们就做壳子还以为能赚钱?还是磨练了队伍?FP!</p></div><p></p>早就报道巴方满意接受航电了,谁是无知青年呢?[em01][em01][em01][em01]
楼主真的很无知呀
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>军情观察员</i>在2006-4-15 12:10:00的发言:</b><br/>最近一期参考消息只说小巴要买发财,只字不提10</div><p></p><p>还是再看看吧。</p>
我看了半天还是二楼最无知.
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>军情观察员</i>在2006-4-15 12:10:00的发言:</b><br/>最近一期参考消息只说小巴要买发财,只字不提10</div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f3f3f3;">我已经提供了好几个国外报章的连接,参考消息他为什么不提10号,你最好去问他们。</font>
<p>伊斯兰马巴德 (2006 年四月 13 日): 巴基斯坦将会购买来自除导弹和其他的仪器之外的美国和中国的 98架高科技飞机改善巴基斯坦籍的空军 (PAF) 的能力。</p><p>依照官方的文件, 被生意录灌机独家地获得, 高科技飞机的混合包裹和仪器正在从美国和中国被购买是当做在:之下</p><p>FC-20 飞机 (36) , SD-10 BVR 导弹 (300) , F-16 A/B ,前任巴基斯坦 (26) , F-16 C/ D(18 由于选项对于另外 18 个) , BVR,500(美国人), 对准荚 18 和联合的直接攻击军需品.(500)</p><p>在整个的包裹上的开支会从 PAF 被见面武装的军队发展节目 (AFFDP-2019) 的部份,文件说。 内阁,依照文件,已经允许 PAF 以 CATIC 为 36架 FC-20 飞机的采购建立联合的工作小组 (JWG)。</p><p>政府也会在固定为来自中国政府的 FC-20 飞机供给~经费的长期信用方面帮助 PAF, 除允许 PAF 经过国防部为 F-16 包裹和仪器开始一封请求 (LoR) 的信之外。</p><p>当详细地说明背景的时候,国防部说了 PAF 2006 年三月 31 日把发表给在现在斗士的状态上的总统和总理了舰队和它的各种不同的高科技飞机选项。</p><p>目前, PAF's 的战斗舰队有大约 350架飞机。 它的详细目录的大多数包含旧的海市蜃楼和华人- 起源的一 -5 , FT-6 和 F-7 飞机。 除了 F-7 辅导级电影,这些飞机的大部分很 20 岁而且预定退休在 2008 和 2015之间.</p><p>预见这退休时间表和与用西方的仪器更换所有的旧飞机有关的已知困难,PAF 开始着手 JF-17 飞机的共发展。 JF-17 的归纳法为了要有隐退的舰队一个有系统替换 , 已经被计画。</p><p>关于高科技能力, PAF 严重地已经在数年以来落后, 主要适当到各种不同的 geo-政治上的和经济的限制。 为了要纠正这一个能力赤字, PAF 非常小心地已经评估对抗定义明确的空气高科技选项职员需求。</p><p>和有效的和现代的操作能力,可支持,可维护性和其他的因素多角色飞机的需求彻底地在可得高科技选项的试验期间被评估。 在这关心方面, 三架飞机即,中国 FC-20 , USF-16 C/ D 和瑞典的 Grippen 被评估。</p><p>美国 F-16 C/ D 和瑞典的 Grippen 取得资格对抗 PAF 需求,中国 FC-20 ,不过在它的礼物中州, 落后在由于缺乏先进航空电子学系统和武器之后。 今后,然而, PAF 称了它如和非常有希望的生长潜能的好选项变成领导的前线斗士之一面对&nbsp; 21 世纪的挑战。</p><p>比较远的,由于 Grippen 的高费用, F-16 武器系统,连同空对空 BVR 导弹一起被考虑是最适当的选项立刻向 PAF 已经累积 vis 的紧要关头的能力赤字发表演说-?vis IAF。</p><p>文件意味着总统已经指示国防部为指示国防部和外交采用积极的方式为必要的包裹释放影响美国和中国政府的内阁移动一个摘要。<br/></p>
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>cardinalwu</i>在2006-4-14 13:11:00的发言:</b><br/><p>我且翻译一下,不要再说你们找不到了:</p><p>While the US F-16 C/D and Swedish Grippen qualified against the PAF requirements, the Chinese FC-20, in its present state, lagged behind due to the lack of advanced avionics systems and weapons. For the future, however, PAF termed it as a good option with very promising growth potential to become one of the leading frontline fighters to face the challenges of the 21st century.</p><p>尽管美国的F-16C/D以及瑞典的Grippen都满足PAF的要求,中国的FC20,在目前,被缺乏先进的航电系统以及武器(lack of advanced avionics systems and weapons)所拖累,在将来,PAF有规划它(FC20)成为一个面对21世纪挑战的好的可靠的前线战斗机的潜在选项。</p><p></p><p>Foreseeing this retirement schedule and the known difficulties associated with replacing all old aircraft with western equipment, PAF embarked upon the co-development of JF-17 aircraft. The induction of JF-17 has been planned so as to have a systematic replacement of the retired fleet.</p><p>预期这退役计划以及替代具有西方设备的旧飞机的困难,PAF从事JF17的共同开发。JF17的计划就是要系统地替代退役的飞机。<br/>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br/>很明白,巴基斯坦很看重西方的航电设备,我国的航电设备并不合人家的胃口。<br/>FC20如果是J10的话,那就是说,巴方认为国产的J10目前满足不了巴方的需求。(是否有异议?)<br/>显而易见,如果JF17的航电是满足巴方的话,那么它一定是西方的。恩。</p></div><p>国内的翻译网站果然蹩脚。水准好差</p>
还是要中国政府提供信用担保呀!