超级军网一战前的英国13.5寸舰炮和法国的340mm舰炮谁性能更好？
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英国13.5寸舰炮是一战爆发时英国超无畏的标配；法国340mm是法式行省级超无畏的标配。
哪个性能更好？战列舰论坛上没有比较资料。英国13.5寸舰炮是一战爆发时英国超无畏的标配；法国340mm是法式行省级超无畏的标配。
哪个性能更好？战列舰论坛上没有比较资料。
哪个性能更好？战列舰论坛上没有比较资料。英国13.5寸舰炮是一战爆发时英国超无畏的标配；法国340mm是法式行省级超无畏的标配。
哪个性能更好？战列舰论坛上没有比较资料。
法国那炮资料可能不好找
13.5寸炮弹有好多种啊，不同炮弹区别大了
上navyweapon自己比对啊
法国的货~印象中没有什么出彩的东西啊！
Designation340 mm/45 (13.4") Model 1912
Ship Class Used OnBretagne, Normandie and Lille classes
Date Of Design1912
Date In Service1915
Gun Weight65.89 tons (66.95 mt)
Gun Length oa634.5 in (16.115 m)
Bore Length613.4 in (15.580 m)
Rifling Length521.7 in (13.250 m)
Grooves(102) 0.075 in deep x 0.295 in (1.9 mm x 7.5 mm)
Lands0.118 in (3.0 mm)
TwistUniform RH 1 in 29.89
Chamber Volume15,646 in3 (256.4 dm3)
Rate Of Fireabout 2 rounds per minute
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Ammunition
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TypeBag
Projectile Types and WeightsAPC M1912 - 1,224 lbs. (555 kg)
APC M1924 - 1,268 lbs. (575 kg)
HE M1926 - 842 lbs. (382 kg)
HE 15A - 1,025 lbs. (465 kg)
HE17 FATO - 981 lbs. (445 kg)
HE FATO 32-6 - 952 lbs. (431.8 kg)
Bursting ChargeAPC M1924 - 47.8 lbs. (21.7 kg)
Others - N/A
Projectile LengthAPC M1912 - 49.5 in (125.8 cm)
APC M1924 - 58.9 in (149.6 cm)
HE M1926 - 41.5 in (105.4 cm)
Others - N/A
Propellant ChargeAPC M1912 - 338.4 lbs. (153.5 kg) BM 16
APC M1924 - 338.4 lbs. (153.5 kg) BM 16
HE M1926 - 308.6 lbs. (140 kg) BM 15
HE 15A - 338.4 lbs. (153.5 kg) BM 16
HE 17 FATO - 390 lbs. (177 kg) SD19G
HE FATO 32-6 - 390 lbs. (177 kg) SD19G
Muzzle VelocityAPC M1912 - 2,605 fps (794 mps)
APC M1924 - 2,559 fps (780 mps)
HE M1926 - 2,904 fps (885 mps)
HE 15A - 2,930 fps (893 mps)
HE 17 FATO - 3,005 fps (916 mps)
HE FATO 32-6 - 3,022 fps (921 mps)
Working Pressure17.8 tons/in2 (2,800 kg/cm2)
Approximate Barrel Lifeabout 250 rounds
Ammunition stowage per gunBretagne: 100 rounds
Others: N/A, but probably 100 rounds
Notes:
1) Propellant was in four bags.
2) Of the shells listed above, only the first three were used on ships, the others were for Railway guns.
3) It is not known how many ships were modified to carry the significantly longer APC M1924.
4) The APC M1912 was modified to add dye bags around 1940 (K version). These weighed 1,230 lbs. (558 kg) and were 50.9 inches (129.2 cm) long.
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Range
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ElevationWith 1,224 lbs. (555 kg) M1912 AP Shell
Range @ 12 degrees15,860 yards (14,500 m)
Range @ 18 degrees19,690 yards (18,000 m)
ElevationWith 1,268 lbs. (575 kg) M1924 AP Shell
Range @ 18 degrees22,970 yards (21,000 m)
Range @ 23 degrees29,090 yards (26,600 m)
Range @ 47.5 degrees
(as coast defense gun)38,749 yards (35,432 m)
Note: The "Warship Volume X" articles listed below give contradictory ranges for 18 degrees of elevation. The above table attempts to reconcile the data in those articles.
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Mount / Turret Data
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DesignationTwo-gun turrets
Bretagne (5)
Quad Turret
Normandie (3) and Lille (4)
WeightN/A
Elevation
(see Note 2)As completed: -5 / +12 degrees
Rate of ElevationN/A
TrainForward and aft turrets: about -150 / +150 degrees
Q turret: about 30 to 150 degrees on either side
Rate of TrainN/A
Gun RecoilN/A
Loading Angle+2 degrees
Notes:
1) Data in this table is for the Bretagne class, data for the others is not available. These ships were equipped with electric motors driving hydraulic training and elevation gear. Chain rammers were also electric powered. Each gun had its own hoist which ran from the working chamber under the turret and a second pair of hoists ran down to the magazines. Gun loading cages had three compartments, the lower one for the projectile and the upper two each carrying two charges.
2) As originally completed in 1916-17, all turrets had a maximum elevation of 12 degrees with the exception of Lorraine, whose No. 5 turret was given a maximum elevation of 18 degrees. In 1917 the elevation of No. 5 turret on Provence was increased to 18 degrees. During reconstruction between 1919 and 1923, elevation of all turrets was increased to 18 degrees and increased again later during the 1920s to 23 degrees. Coastal artillery emplacements allowed a 50 degree maximum elevation.
3) The amidships turret was removed from Lorraine in 1934-35 in order to fit an aircraft catapult and additional AA guns.
4) During rebuilds in the 1930s, guns originally intended for the uncompleted Normandie class were used to regun the Bretagne class.
5) Turret No. 2 on the Bretagne class was fitted with an 8.20 m (26 ft) rangefinder during various rebuilds in the late 1920s and early 1930s.
6) For the proposed Jean Bart reconstruction, the coastal battery gun cradles would have allowed a maximum elevation of +35 degrees.
Ship Class Used OnBretagne, Normandie and Lille classes
Date Of Design1912
Date In Service1915
Gun Weight65.89 tons (66.95 mt)
Gun Length oa634.5 in (16.115 m)
Bore Length613.4 in (15.580 m)
Rifling Length521.7 in (13.250 m)
Grooves(102) 0.075 in deep x 0.295 in (1.9 mm x 7.5 mm)
Lands0.118 in (3.0 mm)
TwistUniform RH 1 in 29.89
Chamber Volume15,646 in3 (256.4 dm3)
Rate Of Fireabout 2 rounds per minute
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Ammunition
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TypeBag
Projectile Types and WeightsAPC M1912 - 1,224 lbs. (555 kg)
APC M1924 - 1,268 lbs. (575 kg)
HE M1926 - 842 lbs. (382 kg)
HE 15A - 1,025 lbs. (465 kg)
HE17 FATO - 981 lbs. (445 kg)
HE FATO 32-6 - 952 lbs. (431.8 kg)
Bursting ChargeAPC M1924 - 47.8 lbs. (21.7 kg)
Others - N/A
Projectile LengthAPC M1912 - 49.5 in (125.8 cm)
APC M1924 - 58.9 in (149.6 cm)
HE M1926 - 41.5 in (105.4 cm)
Others - N/A
Propellant ChargeAPC M1912 - 338.4 lbs. (153.5 kg) BM 16
APC M1924 - 338.4 lbs. (153.5 kg) BM 16
HE M1926 - 308.6 lbs. (140 kg) BM 15
HE 15A - 338.4 lbs. (153.5 kg) BM 16
HE 17 FATO - 390 lbs. (177 kg) SD19G
HE FATO 32-6 - 390 lbs. (177 kg) SD19G
Muzzle VelocityAPC M1912 - 2,605 fps (794 mps)
APC M1924 - 2,559 fps (780 mps)
HE M1926 - 2,904 fps (885 mps)
HE 15A - 2,930 fps (893 mps)
HE 17 FATO - 3,005 fps (916 mps)
HE FATO 32-6 - 3,022 fps (921 mps)
Working Pressure17.8 tons/in2 (2,800 kg/cm2)
Approximate Barrel Lifeabout 250 rounds
Ammunition stowage per gunBretagne: 100 rounds
Others: N/A, but probably 100 rounds
Notes:
1) Propellant was in four bags.
2) Of the shells listed above, only the first three were used on ships, the others were for Railway guns.
3) It is not known how many ships were modified to carry the significantly longer APC M1924.
4) The APC M1912 was modified to add dye bags around 1940 (K version). These weighed 1,230 lbs. (558 kg) and were 50.9 inches (129.2 cm) long.
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Range
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ElevationWith 1,224 lbs. (555 kg) M1912 AP Shell
Range @ 12 degrees15,860 yards (14,500 m)
Range @ 18 degrees19,690 yards (18,000 m)
ElevationWith 1,268 lbs. (575 kg) M1924 AP Shell
Range @ 18 degrees22,970 yards (21,000 m)
Range @ 23 degrees29,090 yards (26,600 m)
Range @ 47.5 degrees
(as coast defense gun)38,749 yards (35,432 m)
Note: The "Warship Volume X" articles listed below give contradictory ranges for 18 degrees of elevation. The above table attempts to reconcile the data in those articles.
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Mount / Turret Data
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DesignationTwo-gun turrets
Bretagne (5)
Quad Turret
Normandie (3) and Lille (4)
WeightN/A
Elevation
(see Note 2)As completed: -5 / +12 degrees
Rate of ElevationN/A
TrainForward and aft turrets: about -150 / +150 degrees
Q turret: about 30 to 150 degrees on either side
Rate of TrainN/A
Gun RecoilN/A
Loading Angle+2 degrees
Notes:
1) Data in this table is for the Bretagne class, data for the others is not available. These ships were equipped with electric motors driving hydraulic training and elevation gear. Chain rammers were also electric powered. Each gun had its own hoist which ran from the working chamber under the turret and a second pair of hoists ran down to the magazines. Gun loading cages had three compartments, the lower one for the projectile and the upper two each carrying two charges.
2) As originally completed in 1916-17, all turrets had a maximum elevation of 12 degrees with the exception of Lorraine, whose No. 5 turret was given a maximum elevation of 18 degrees. In 1917 the elevation of No. 5 turret on Provence was increased to 18 degrees. During reconstruction between 1919 and 1923, elevation of all turrets was increased to 18 degrees and increased again later during the 1920s to 23 degrees. Coastal artillery emplacements allowed a 50 degree maximum elevation.
3) The amidships turret was removed from Lorraine in 1934-35 in order to fit an aircraft catapult and additional AA guns.
4) During rebuilds in the 1930s, guns originally intended for the uncompleted Normandie class were used to regun the Bretagne class.
5) Turret No. 2 on the Bretagne class was fitted with an 8.20 m (26 ft) rangefinder during various rebuilds in the late 1920s and early 1930s.
6) For the proposed Jean Bart reconstruction, the coastal battery gun cradles would have allowed a maximum elevation of +35 degrees.
上navyweapon自己比对啊
都没穿深数据。
都没穿深数据。
比较一下弹重初速就能知道个大概水平了
最主要看射击命中效率
关键看弹，牛牛一战的弹比较弱，换了绿弹，13.5还是比较牛的，公鸡的不太清楚
鸡的海军史就是一部被皇家海军吊打的历史