紫石英号最后的命运谁了解?

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1949年4月,英国远东舰队“紫石英”号护卫舰在渡江战役前夕自上海前往南京撤侨,在镇江与解放军炮兵发生冲突。经过一系列炮战后英军救援失败,紫石英被困长江。经过一连串没有结果的谈判后,紫石英号于7月乘台风来临之际偷偷起航逃走。该事件被认为是列强在中国“炮舰政策”的失败。影片中的所有镜头都是在紫石英号本舰上拍摄的,其中大量爆炸特效导致舰体严重受损,不久就被拆除了。
http://www.bilibili.com/mobile/video/av2513185.html

这是真的吗?为了拍电影而损毁了也太搞笑了吧!上面是电影链接1949年4月,英国远东舰队“紫石英”号护卫舰在渡江战役前夕自上海前往南京撤侨,在镇江与解放军炮兵发生冲突。经过一系列炮战后英军救援失败,紫石英被困长江。经过一连串没有结果的谈判后,紫石英号于7月乘台风来临之际偷偷起航逃走。该事件被认为是列强在中国“炮舰政策”的失败。影片中的所有镜头都是在紫石英号本舰上拍摄的,其中大量爆炸特效导致舰体严重受损,不久就被拆除了。
http://www.bilibili.com/mobile/video/av2513185.html

这是真的吗?为了拍电影而损毁了也太搞笑了吧!上面是电影链接


扬子江事件这个电影呗。本来这个级别(黑天鹅级)的就是战时应急建造护卫舰,战后大量拆废铁了,因为欧洲战后重建需要大量钢铁。这个事件的伦敦号,伴侣号也都很快退役拆了

扬子江事件这个电影呗。本来这个级别(黑天鹅级)的就是战时应急建造护卫舰,战后大量拆废铁了,因为欧洲战后重建需要大量钢铁。这个事件的伦敦号,伴侣号也都很快退役拆了
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英国最慢的驱逐舰,6-1炸鱼必备之一
英国最慢的驱逐舰,6-1炸鱼必备之一
为何必带??
口条 发表于 2016-4-8 00:59
为何必带??
看样子你没到啊,6-1炸鱼,航速<27,紫石英是10航速,多烂的驱逐舰啊
老英海军的传统,仗打完了就拆船, 多少巨舰都拆了, 还在乎个小护驱?   当年, 这一炮使得老英对土共刮目相看,嘴上虽然还是啰嗦, 但底下却是交接不断, 要不是老美横插一缸, TG的新海军就是老英远东分舰队的规格了
拆了。英国人二战后大肆拆船,厌战这样有光荣历史的战列舰都拆了,就留下一条爱丁堡(还是贝尔法斯特记不清了),谁在乎这破玩意。
1957年1月解体。
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紫石英??少女战舰中别号中二,六花,狗粮中的减肥食品。。。实际上,紫石英是黑天鹅级护卫舰(SLOOP),比起舰队战舰最低要求的轻护/炮艇(corvette)更为轻型,而不是正规DD,所以才会被吊打。。。呵呵,拍电影那年紫石英已经不堪重劳了,被拆除了动力系统,其航行镜头全部由其姊妹舰喜鹊(HMS Magpie U82)完成,拍完电影后其也就被拆解了。
不过紫石英曾经击沉过德国U1276号潜艇,也算得上有人头的舰只了。。只是其逗逼的要想学舰队战舰和别人对轰。。连累了伦敦和黑天鹅等一票队友都被设定成渣一样的属性。。。舰长在炮击开始时就被打死,趁黑夜混在民船里脱逃居然也能被称为是机智。。只能说不要碧莲也是英国人的传统了。。。
由于TG当时只有口径较小的野炮和山炮,弹种也只有榴弹,所以对轰如果看战绩结果还是TG吃了点小亏,伤亡了200余人,而紫石英也阵亡45人,失踪1人,伤93人,但是这也标志着西方国家对中国的炮舰外交的结束,后来由于紫石英逃脱,TG方面和英国方面都不愿意把事态扩大,所以就低调处理掉了。

紫石英??少女战舰中别号中二,六花,狗粮中的减肥食品。。。实际上,紫石英是黑天鹅级护卫舰(SLOOP),比起舰队战舰最低要求的轻护/炮艇(corvette)更为轻型,而不是正规DD,所以才会被吊打。。。呵呵,拍电影那年紫石英已经不堪重劳了,被拆除了动力系统,其航行镜头全部由其姊妹舰喜鹊(HMS Magpie U82)完成,拍完电影后其也就被拆解了。
不过紫石英曾经击沉过德国U1276号潜艇,也算得上有人头的舰只了。。只是其逗逼的要想学舰队战舰和别人对轰。。连累了伦敦和黑天鹅等一票队友都被设定成渣一样的属性。。。舰长在炮击开始时就被打死,趁黑夜混在民船里脱逃居然也能被称为是机智。。只能说不要碧莲也是英国人的传统了。。。
由于TG当时只有口径较小的野炮和山炮,弹种也只有榴弹,所以对轰如果看战绩结果还是TG吃了点小亏,伤亡了200余人,而紫石英也阵亡45人,失踪1人,伤93人,但是这也标志着西方国家对中国的炮舰外交的结束,后来由于紫石英逃脱,TG方面和英国方面都不愿意把事态扩大,所以就低调处理掉了。

山芋神 发表于 2016-4-8 03:43
拆了。英国人二战后大肆拆船,厌战这样有光荣历史的战列舰都拆了,就留下一条爱丁堡(还是贝尔法斯特记不清 ...


是贝法,现在还在TIMES河上当做展览馆呢。。。
爱丁堡在一次运输苏联给盟军的黄金(货款)时,被U艇加鱼雷轰炸机连番袭击后沉没,其所带金条大半在上世纪八十年代后被捞起,不过据说仍有部分还在海底。
对了,其实还有条曙光女神号送给了常公公,改名叫重庆号。。。。然而同时常公公也把雪风编入舰队,改名叫丹阳了。。。
山芋神 发表于 2016-4-8 03:43
拆了。英国人二战后大肆拆船,厌战这样有光荣历史的战列舰都拆了,就留下一条爱丁堡(还是贝尔法斯特记不清 ...


是贝法,现在还在TIMES河上当做展览馆呢。。。
爱丁堡在一次运输苏联给盟军的黄金(货款)时,被U艇加鱼雷轰炸机连番袭击后沉没,其所带金条大半在上世纪八十年代后被捞起,不过据说仍有部分还在海底。
对了,其实还有条曙光女神号送给了常公公,改名叫重庆号。。。。然而同时常公公也把雪风编入舰队,改名叫丹阳了。。。
这是英囯人对紫石英号的说法。完全不提紫石英号阻止解放军渡江,而是和平使命无辜被击。

HMS AMETHYST BREAKS OUT OF THE YANGTZE RIVER

2014 marked the 65th anniversary of the epic of the incident on China’s River Yangtze that thrust HMS AMETHYST and other ships of the British Far East Fleet, most notably HMS LONDON, HMS CONSORT, HMS BLACK SWAN and HMS CONCORD, into the world’s headlines.

HMS AMETHYST (Lt Cdr B M Skinner RN) a modern frigate of the Later Black Swan Class of some 1800 tons, launched in 1943, was a junior unit of the 3rd Frigate Flotilla of the Far East Fleet: by early March 1949 she was due a short refit in Hong Kong Dockyard after a period of anti-bandit patrols off the Malayan coast. Once alongside in Hong Kong however her programme was changed and she was substituted for HMAS SHOALHAVEN to act as guardship at Nanking, the seat of the Chinese Government some 200 miles up the Yangtse River from Shanghai. China was at war, and with the Communist forces to the north of the great river poised to cross and clash with the weary Nationalist government forces who held the south bank, the timing of the guardships’ changeover was critical and must be completed before the expected Communist crossing.

The current British guardship, the destroyer HMS CONSORT (Cdr I G Robertson DSO DSC RN) would sail from Nanking downriver on 19th April, the same day that AMETHYST would slip from Shanghai and move up river for Nanking: the former would be south east and clear of the trouble area by the time the Communists were expected to resume hostilities; and AMETHYST would be safely in Nanking. Whilst this war was none of Great Britain’s business and strict neutrality had long been declared and understood - with the Communists appearing fully to respect the status of foreign neutral powers - AMETHYST and CONSORT were to take the usual precautions: ships’ companies were to be at a high state of readiness, ammunition was to be provided to main armament and large Union Flagswere to be ready to be displayed over the side at the first sign of any trouble, though none was expected.

What subsequently happened as AMETHYST moved upriver is well known. Around 0815 on 19th April whilst the ship was steaming at 16 knots and with her quarterdeck awning spread and main armament of six x 4 inch guns trained peacefully fore and aft, small arms fire ashore was followed by a larger shell which fell close to the frigate. The captain immediately ordered the Union Flags to be unfurled over the side, additional white ensigns were broken out at the foremast and the frigate attempted to locate the offending guns on shore but with no success. For about 15 minutes the shells continued to land around the ship but none hit. AMETHYST had not returned fire and her main armament remained trained fore and aft.

Some 40 minutes later, however, when abreast Rose Island, 4 shells hit the ship in very quick succession causing critical damage and killing and seriously wounding some 37 of the ships company of around 170. With the captain mortally wounded and the bridge wrecked, the command and control of the ship failed and she ran aground at speed on Rose Island, a sitting target now only some 200 yards from the Communist shore batteries which continued to pound the frigate. Somehow she managed to get off a signal (with the rare precedence of Flash) which CONSORT in Nanking intercepted: she was at once ordered to go to AMETHYST’s assistance. Flying seven White Ensigns, with Union Flags unfurled over the side and main armament stood to, the destroyer dashed down river, at times doing 29 knots, a speed never before or since seen on the Yangtze anmsd which made steering very hazardous in the shoal waters of the river!    As she neared AMETHYST she too came under heavy accurate shore fire to which she replied with rapid 4.5 inch salvoes. Whilst she prepared to pass a tow to the frigate she was then hit several times herself, her bridge and wheelhouse being badly damaged and her captain wounded and coxswain killed. Both forrard 4.5 inch mountings were put out of action and with her primary steering also damaged she was forced to steer from aft, no mean feat for a ship manoeuvring at high speed in restricted water and under fire. But given her damage, further attempts to close AMETHYST were out of the question and eventually she was forced to clear the area and pass down river. The destroyer had taken 56 direct hits and suffered 9 killed and 30 men wounded.

The Commander-in-Chief Far East Station, Admiral Sir Patrick Brind KCB CBE, was absent on duty in UK and so it fell to his Second-in-Command, Vice Admiral A C G Madden CB CBE, to handle this situation which had turned so very sour so very quickly. Meanwhile under cover of darkness the wounded AMETHYST had managed to refloat herself and came to anchor about 12 miles upriver from Rose Island, a marginally less exposed spot than where she had earlier grounded. Admiral Madden now determined to go to the frigate’s help himself and with HMS BLACK SWAN (Captain A D H Jay DSO DSC RN, Captain F3), in company he took his flagship, the heavy cruiser HMS LONDON (Captain P G L Cazalet DSO DSC RN) from Shanghai up river to escort AMETHYST out. He had also asked the Royal Air Force to try and get medical help to the frigate and a Sunderland flying boat piloted by Flt Lt K H F Letford DSO DFC RAF had departed from RAF Kai Tak, Hong Kong for the 800 mile flight to the frigate

But now it was LONDON’s turn to run into trouble for the big cruiser made a huge target which even the most incompetent shore gunner could not miss. Despite steering at high speed in the confined waters she and BLACK SWAN also came under heavy fire and although spirited use was made of the ships’ 8 inch and 4 inch guns LONDON, too, was hit several times and briefly grounded: finally they too had to retire, the cruiser having suffered substantial damage and 15 men killed and 20 wounded. Later on its second attempt the Sunderland managed to alight close enough to AMETHYST to disembark one RAF doctor before it too had to depart in a hurry, Communist gunfire having started ranging on it.

With AMETHYST's captain, Lt Cdr Skinner, having now died of wounds and her First Lieutenant wounded and needing hospital attention urgently, the frigate was without a captain: the Assistant Naval Attaché, Nanking, Lt Cdr J S Kerans, was invited to locate the frigate and try and get onboard.  This he managed to do and he assumed command as she lay at anchor in the river nursing her wounds and trying to clear up and make good the devastating damage she had received. For the moment, at least, all further rescue attempts were off.

All during the long, humid months of May, June and July diplomatic attempts at the highest level continued to try and obtain AMETHYST’s release, but to no avail. The Communists were determined to wring a confession out of the British that AMETHYST had provoked the attack made on her of 19th April and until this was admitted she would, they maintained, remain their prisoner on the Yangtze. Admiral Brind did all he could from afar to support the small ship and her junior captain, to keep up her morale and to prepare her as best he could in the absence of secure communications, for a breakout should diplomacy fail. Conditions onboard in the stifling , humid heat grew steadily worse as summer wore on, fuel supplies dwindled and food and stores were progressively more tightly rationed. If she didn’t get away one way or another by late July she would probably not be able to do so under her own power: fuel would have run out and the material condition of the ship would simply have deteriorated too far. Boilers, generators, electrical equipment - all were starting to play up, not to mention the physical condition of the ship’s company which was not improving in the overheated airless conditions onboard the cramped frigate. Her gyro compass, so important for navigation on this shoal ridden river, had remained out of service since the action of 19th April: spare parts could not be got to the frigate.

With constant hinting from the C-in-C that he would support any moves Kerans made to break out should the opportunity present itself, Kerans decided on the afternoon of 30th July to make a run for it that night, the 101st day of her captivity. It was now or never as fuel was at a critical level, the night was as moonless as it was going to be for a while and the river was high which would help make up for the lack of charts onboard, the original ones having been destroyed in April’s action. Using a homemade cipher previously put together by Brind’s staff and Kerans, the latter alerted his C-in-C to his plan and asked for all possible covering support. The destroyer HMS CONCORD (Cdr N R H Rodney RN) was ordered to move up from the Saddle Islands to be off the Woosung Forts by dawn on 31st July and to give covering fire to AMETHYST if necessary; and the 8th destroyer flotilla (HM Ships COSSACK, COMUS and CONSTANCE ) was sailed in secrecy and with speed from Sasebo, Japan and directed to join CONCORD to give additional support if required. The RAF were alerted to position flying boats to try and take off her ship’s company if damaged she received during her breakout attempt prevented her from completing her 104 mile dash to the open sea and she had to be scuttled. Tufnell here shows AMETHYST in the early stages of her breakout on 30th July: she has a canvas screen rigged along the focsle to try and alter her silhouette, hands are at action stations for the 7 hour dash and B gun mounting is manned with ammunition provided (there were simply too few hands left onboard to man the other main armament). Her identity rumbled, she is seen here being illuminated by shore batteries shortly before she came under fire and was hit as she raced down river. Aboard his flagship HMS BELFAST (Captain E K Le Mesurier CBE RN) in Hong Kong, Sir Patrick and his staff watched and waited with heavy heart as AMETHYST reported she had been hit. CONCORD, taking in this signal too, inched further up river and into Chinese territorial waters. But the hit was not serious and several hours later AMETHYST, steaming as never before in her life and navigating with immense skill in these shoal-ridden  pilotage waters, was able to report she was half way. But then at 0350 and tiring under the strain with his confidence perhaps faltering as he approached another danger point, the 6 inch guns of the forts at Woosung, Kerans sent a Flash signal in plain language to his old chum Rodney of CONCORD “Come quick”.   He needn’t have bothered for CONCORD, alert and fully tuned to the heightened danger the frigate was facing,  was already closing him.

But her luck was in and AMETHYST, now making heavy smoke and knocking up some 22 knots over the ground, passed through the forts unchallenged and there, illuminated by the first rays of the rising sun, was CONCORD waiting to welcome the gallant frigate back into the fleet. “Fancy meeting you again” signalled Rodney; to which Kerans made by light “Never, never has a ship been more welcome”. Then it was time for AMETHYST to signal Admiral Sir Patrick: “Have rejoined the Fleet south of Woo Sung. No damage or casualties. God save the King”. Back in London and being kept updated on the situation, HM The King was quick to have a signal made to the C-in-C: “Please convey to the commanding officer and ship’s company of HMS AMETHYST my hearty congratulations on their daring exploit to rejoin the Fleet. The courage, skill and determination shown by all on board have my highest commendation. Splice the mainbrace. George R”.



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英国最慢的驱逐舰,6-1炸鱼必备之一
不不,我一般是带宁海或者补给
英国最慢的驱逐舰,6-1炸鱼必备之一
强行驱逐舰的紫石英
不不,我一般是带宁海或者补给
我也带的宁海
我们死的人多吃亏了
紫英石当时也遭到了国军的炮击
好像陶勇最喜欢的一个团长也是这一次冲突被炸死了
kk9731 发表于 2016-4-8 08:08
紫英石当时也遭到了国军的炮击
吹吧
国民党那德行敢炮轰洋大人?
HOOPS 发表于 2016-4-8 00:58
英国最慢的驱逐舰,6-1炸鱼必备之一
在英国的舰船分类里,紫石英号属于黑天鹅级,是护航炮舰(SLOOP),不是驱逐舰(DD)······
蓝军部队参谋长 发表于 2016-4-8 08:40
好像陶勇最喜欢的一个团长也是这一次冲突被炸死了
202团团长邓若波······
202团团长邓若波······
可惜啊,新中国马上要成立了
蓝军部队参谋长 发表于 2016-4-8 09:16
可惜啊,新中国马上要成立了
当时解放军炮兵都隐藏在江堤上,英舰则认为解放军的炮位在江堤后面,所以炮是奔着江堤后面打的,正打在准备渡江的步兵头上,所以造成了重大伤亡······
这是英囯人对紫石英号的说法。完全不提紫石英号阻止解放军渡江,而是和平使命无辜被击。

HMS AMETHYST B ...
英国人没那么脑残,想用一千吨的小炮舰来阻止解放军渡江。紫石英号当时完全没有做战斗准备,对于江北的解放军火力配置完全没有做侦查和标定。紫石英号挨揍是由于英国政府一贯的傲慢无礼作风,对于解放军的长江航道禁航令不当回事。
当时解放军炮兵都隐藏在江堤上,英舰则认为解放军的炮位在江堤后面,所以炮是奔着江堤后面打的,正打在准 ...
解放军当时见过的最大的炮只是155mm榴弹炮,当时伦敦号重巡装备的203mm巨炮更是闻所未闻,否则渡江部队不会以为有厚厚的江堤遮挡就安全了。正是伦敦号的203mm炮弹穿透江堤造成了解放军重大伤亡。
紫石英??少女战舰中别号中二,六花,狗粮中的减肥食品。。。实际上,紫石英是黑天鹅级护卫舰(SLOOP), ...
虽然船小,才1000多吨,但还是有6门100炮啊
紫英石当时也遭到了国军的炮击
江阴要塞已经被共军谍控制,变成挂号共军了。
口条 发表于 2016-4-8 10:12
虽然船小,才1000多吨,但还是有6门100炮啊
4英寸101炮,本身就是驱护的标配舰炮。。。不过,这次真的玩砸了。。100炮不假,但是据事后双方回忆,当时TG至少一个炮团在开火,而且准确性惊人,紫石英挨得第一炮就让其舵轮失效,冲向南岸边,主炮位4门炮全部对着南岸,这种情况下,船只基本没办法发扬火力的。而后来的联合号,上手就被废了前两个炮塔,基本失去战力而撤退了,只有伦敦号的203是压制了TG的炮兵,也是造成最大伤亡的原因,然而伦敦也被一发穿甲弹砸穿水平甲,舰长受伤而撤退(论英国水平甲之锅)而当时离紫石英的距离还有11公里!!最终,英国委派的新任紫石英舰长克兰少校还是通过南京方面才和紫石英号上的人员取得联系并登船,所谓的国民党炮击紫石英完全是无稽之谈。。。(英国人亲自打脸你怕不怕)。。。。紫石英也自知靠自力无法完成逃脱,生怕成为了TG方面的“船质”的情况下,克兰指挥舰船在夜间模仿民船指示灯紧急起航,被识破并炮火拦阻下,以江陵解放号商船作为盾牌,逃出了TG的炮火。
PS,还有,紫石英运气其实很不错,根据英方事后通报,一枚75的炮弹打穿了水下舰体,砸入了弹药舱,然而。。。这是一枚哑弹!!
4英寸101炮,本身就是驱护的标配舰炮。。。不过,这次真的玩砸了。。100炮不假,但是据事后双方回忆,当 ...
75炮都能打穿水线,这什么破船啊
口条 发表于 2016-4-8 11:40
75炮都能打穿水线,这什么破船啊
呵呵,本就是护卫舰水准的舰船,根本不参与战舰作战的,不注意水下也很正常。。。何况TG的长身管火炮也有的,不过应该不多,至少伴侣号打坏了两门。。
所以,二次设定里,中二病紫石英回家被家长们(曙光女神)狠狠地打了屁股,然后被串门的兔子看到了
玩游戏涨姿势,tg炮轰紫石英我还是看船介绍知道了解的
另外6-1炸鱼带紫石英的是真爱,带双海啊
国产舰娘皮太薄,全洗澡了才用紫石英的,炸鱼也不给力,存储撑着,要是练大船就没这种事情了
HOOPS 发表于 2016-4-8 00:58
英国最慢的驱逐舰,6-1炸鱼必备之一
紫英石也练啊,我一般带一艘低速轻母,巨像啊独角兽什么的
不不,我一般是带宁海或者补给
补给娘?不怕被炸回家吗?又不是魔改后的铁木真元帅号
紫英石也练啊,我一般带一艘低速轻母,巨像啊独角兽什么的
轻航炸鱼你在开玩笑吗?我普林斯顿和扶她被炸成狗了,而且绿血才能开幕反潜
75炮都能打穿水线,这什么破船啊
反正特别的烂,就和家里的顶个鸟以及顶个螃蟹一样的皮薄,但是那两个重炮小学生可以背460的大和炮去带队伍,而中二英炸鱼自己被炸回家了
反正特别的烂,就和家里的顶个鸟以及顶个螃蟹一样的皮薄,但是那两个重炮小学生可以背460的大和炮去带队 ...
炸鱼究竟是什么啊

HOOPS 发表于 2016-4-8 00:58
英国最慢的驱逐舰,6-1炸鱼必备之一


同问,我还没练她


这么说,双海还得练啊。
HOOPS 发表于 2016-4-8 00:58
英国最慢的驱逐舰,6-1炸鱼必备之一


同问,我还没练她


这么说,双海还得练啊。
ksk 发表于 2016-4-8 02:24
老英海军的传统,仗打完了就拆船, 多少巨舰都拆了, 还在乎个小护驱?   当年, 这一炮使得老英对 ...
据说是给出了穷的掉渣的TG都付的起的良心价,不知真假。
话说如果是真的,牛牛这生意经真不是盖的。