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没有核心技术的问题来了:中兴因为和伊朗做生意被米帝封杀

美国政府认为深圳的中兴公司向伊朗出口美国高科技设备,违反了美国禁运令,因此发布了在美国封杀中兴公司的命令。中兴公司可以上诉。

2012年,米帝的路透社发表文章披露中兴公司向伊朗出口的电讯设备中含有巨量美国的技术部件,美国政府随后开始介入调查。中兴公司向伊朗出口的高科技通讯设备中主要含有米帝Intel、Honeywell、Microsoft、IBM以及Qualcomm的软件和硬件产品。

这样,中兴公司今后将无法采购任何美国的产品。

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/china ... 09852--finance.html

U.S. curbs China's ZTE exports over Iran business allegations

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is imposing export restrictions on China's ZTE Corp <000063.SZ> and three other entities over allegations that the telecoms equipment maker developed a scheme to re-export items to Iran in violation of sanctions, the U.S. Commerce Department announced on Monday.

In a public notice, the Commerce Department cited ZTE documents that showed the mobile handset maker planned to use shell companies in the scheme. The export curbs, which take effect on Tuesday, would make it harder for ZTE to acquire U.S. products.

ZTE, based in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen, can appeal the decision.

Trading in shares of the telecom manufacturer, one of the world's largest, was halted in Hong Kong and Shenzhen pending the announcement before Asian markets closed. U.S.-listed shares of ZTE were up in a handful of trades in the over-the-counter market.

The Commerce Department investigated ZTE after documents seen by Reuters in 2012 showed that the company had signed contracts to ship millions of dollars worth of hardware and software from some of America's best-known technology companies to Iran's largest telecoms carrier, Telecommunication Co of Iran (TCI), and a unit of the consortium that controls it.

The U.S. companies, which included Microsoft Corp , IBM , Oracle Corp and Dell Inc [DI.UL], have all said they were unaware of the Iranian contracts.

It was unclear if any of the companies still work with ZTE or what impact the curbs will have on the telecom industry.

The Commerce Department said the export curbs also affect two of ZTE's Chinese affiliates, ZTE Kangxun Telecommunications Ltd and Beijing 8-Star, and an Iranian company, ZTE Parsian.

Commerce Department investigators obtained internal ZTE documents, some of which had been marked by the company as "Top Secret." Reuters reviewed some of the documents.

The day after the first Reuters article was published in March 2012, a ZTE spokesman said the company would "curtail" its business in Iran. The company later issued a statement saying: "ZTE no longer seeks new customers in Iran and limits business activities with existing customers."

Analysts have predicted supply problems for ZTE, whose partners include Intel Corp and Honeywell International Inc in addition to Microsoft and IBM. It also has a relationship with Qualcomm .




没有核心技术的问题来了:中兴因为和伊朗做生意被米帝封杀

美国政府认为深圳的中兴公司向伊朗出口美国高科技设备,违反了美国禁运令,因此发布了在美国封杀中兴公司的命令。中兴公司可以上诉。

2012年,米帝的路透社发表文章披露中兴公司向伊朗出口的电讯设备中含有巨量美国的技术部件,美国政府随后开始介入调查。中兴公司向伊朗出口的高科技通讯设备中主要含有米帝Intel、Honeywell、Microsoft、IBM以及Qualcomm的软件和硬件产品。

这样,中兴公司今后将无法采购任何美国的产品。

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/china ... 09852--finance.html

U.S. curbs China's ZTE exports over Iran business allegations

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is imposing export restrictions on China's ZTE Corp <000063.SZ> and three other entities over allegations that the telecoms equipment maker developed a scheme to re-export items to Iran in violation of sanctions, the U.S. Commerce Department announced on Monday.

In a public notice, the Commerce Department cited ZTE documents that showed the mobile handset maker planned to use shell companies in the scheme. The export curbs, which take effect on Tuesday, would make it harder for ZTE to acquire U.S. products.

ZTE, based in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen, can appeal the decision.

Trading in shares of the telecom manufacturer, one of the world's largest, was halted in Hong Kong and Shenzhen pending the announcement before Asian markets closed. U.S.-listed shares of ZTE were up in a handful of trades in the over-the-counter market.

The Commerce Department investigated ZTE after documents seen by Reuters in 2012 showed that the company had signed contracts to ship millions of dollars worth of hardware and software from some of America's best-known technology companies to Iran's largest telecoms carrier, Telecommunication Co of Iran (TCI), and a unit of the consortium that controls it.

The U.S. companies, which included Microsoft Corp , IBM , Oracle Corp and Dell Inc [DI.UL], have all said they were unaware of the Iranian contracts.

It was unclear if any of the companies still work with ZTE or what impact the curbs will have on the telecom industry.

The Commerce Department said the export curbs also affect two of ZTE's Chinese affiliates, ZTE Kangxun Telecommunications Ltd and Beijing 8-Star, and an Iranian company, ZTE Parsian.

Commerce Department investigators obtained internal ZTE documents, some of which had been marked by the company as "Top Secret." Reuters reviewed some of the documents.

The day after the first Reuters article was published in March 2012, a ZTE spokesman said the company would "curtail" its business in Iran. The company later issued a statement saying: "ZTE no longer seeks new customers in Iran and limits business activities with existing customers."

Analysts have predicted supply problems for ZTE, whose partners include Intel Corp and Honeywell International Inc in addition to Microsoft and IBM. It also has a relationship with Qualcomm .


那些软件和芯片应该也有替代品吧。
切,不就是个借口。华为的通信设备有核心技术,它还不让你进它的市场,连被制裁的机会都没有
不信美帝没有小辫子抓在我们手里
又要make a deal了,手里要多抓几张牌啊
上面那些要都能造了,tg就问鼎蓝星了。
拜托,这是个全球化的世界,我们从全球化捞了最大的好处,美国还是第一超级大国,你要现在都没有所谓“核心技术”问题了,美国就是中国小弟了好不

况且,这就不是什么核心技术问题,全球配套,美帝好的我们买来集成,现有市场格局下替代不是一时半会的解决的,反正时间在俺们这一边。
wuchenh 发表于 2016-3-8 08:57
切,不就是个借口。华为的通信设备有核心技术,它还不让你进它的市场,连被制裁的机会都没有
华为要是进去,思科连哭的地方都找不到。
米帝的借口越来越低端了。
问题是,我们的政府,敢制裁波音报复吗?估计还得多进口点飞机。
问题是,我们的政府,敢制裁波音报复吗?估计还得多进口点飞机。
这逻辑也是醉了,美国对华贸易逆差从06年就过2000亿刀了,照你这说法那是美国给中国的岁币?
为了对等,找个卖台湾军火的封杀
wuchenh 发表于 2016-3-8 08:57
切,不就是个借口。华为的通信设备有核心技术,它还不让你进它的市场,连被制裁的机会都没有
华为就不让进吧,后来好像任正非愤而放弃了美蒂市场。
问题是,我们的政府,敢制裁波音报复吗?估计还得多进口点飞机。
实际上少进口几架飞机真没有什么影响。估计国人多用高铁。至于国际航班,减少航班,提高票价,把有些人的消费留在国内,因为东南亚,日韩,港太地区,真不值得去。
amhs 发表于 2016-3-8 09:47
华为就不让进吧,后来好像任正非愤而放弃了美蒂市场。
不是放弃美帝市场的问题,中兴公司今后将无法采购任何美国的产品。
实际上少进口几架飞机真没有什么影响。估计国人多用高铁。至于国际航班,减少航班,提高票价,把有些人的 ...
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没有 摩托 和 贝尔  还有  联发科

再说 摩托的 专利权 在联想

芯片和技术 都有备份

再说只是 中兴 有的是国货进入美国市场

没有 摩托 和 贝尔  还有  联发科

再说 摩托的 专利权 在联想

芯片和技术 都有备份

再说只是 中兴 有的是国货进入美国市场
啥也别说了,制裁苹果吧。
啥也别说了,制裁苹果吧。
非常同意。这东西分分钟可以被国产替代。
说什么核心技术,借口而已,2012年的时候美利奸硬是认定华为中兴的路由器和交换机威胁国家安全,不让进入美国市场。后来华为在北美转加拿大市场,中兴则改为发展在美国的手机业务,2015年在美国的份额在苹果、三星、LG之后排第四。然后美利奸又开始拿中兴开刀了.......
ppokem 发表于 2016-3-8 09:29
问题是,我们的政府,敢制裁波音报复吗?估计还得多进口点飞机。
这有什么不敢的。有空客在。飞机不会完全不买波音,但只要比例调整一下,波音的损失也不比中兴小。
冷风飘 发表于 2016-3-8 10:01
非常同意。这东西分分钟可以被国产替代。
只是只能在兔子境内卖 去外头有专利
实际上少进口几架飞机真没有什么影响。估计国人多用高铁。至于国际航班,减少航班,提高票价,把有些人的 ...
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好好提高自己旅游服务接待能力是正道
别总动些歪脑筋
别人旅游的钱也是辛辛苦苦赚来的
不是大风刮来的
人是会用脚投票的
有本事美国禁止出口所有科技类商品给中国?看哪个总统敢这样?第二天就死在希拉里嘴下。
当年美国怎么搞丰田北美的?到现在丰田都没回过来,丰田真的就像美国说的不知道刹车优先这个东西?
中国又有借口不买美国的东东。
ppokem 发表于 2016-3-8 09:29
问题是,我们的政府,敢制裁波音报复吗?估计还得多进口点飞机。
这不和波音的意向协议又要作废吗?几百架飞机我说不买就不买,搞好关系下次再来签,付钱不付钱还不是我们说了算?
不能采购?中兴的体量,你让这些美国公司怎么办?
唐鸢 发表于 2016-3-8 09:02
不信美帝没有小辫子抓在我们手里
苹果,可以找个理由封杀他,对等报复!
[据媒体报道,此次美商务部获取的一份来自中兴公司内部、其中部分被标注为“绝密”的文件显示,针对美商务部的制裁,该公司酝酿了一项所谓的突破封锁计划。]

出了内鬼。
苹果,可以找个理由封杀他,对等报复!
然后果粉疯了
制裁苹果?也就军迷说说而已啊。国家高层的决心难下呢。
华为比中兴更具有战略价值,华为被MD限制进入美国市场的时候,有制裁苹果吗?
当然,还是乐见高层下定决心,制裁一个苹果,估计类似事情以后MD再想做,就真的要掂量一下了。——也许,今天的中兴被制裁,只是因为上次华为被制裁后没有对应反制措施,使得MD认为可以继续零成本收拾中国的新型产业。
果粉。。又是果粉
广东的大海 发表于 2016-3-8 10:36
有本事美国禁止出口所有科技类商品给中国?看哪个总统敢这样?第二天就死在希拉里嘴下。

感觉死在希拉里嘴下这个画面好污

rcoolduck 发表于 2016-3-8 10:26
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你以为国外就是天堂?你去巴厘岛说你是中国人和你是日本人试试买东西价格是不是一样。这地方算是开发的很成熟的外国旅游区了吧。你说这不是发达国家,行,你去法国和意大利问问,旅游上当的少不少,被骗的少不少。没去过,就别瞎说。在国内敢一个人徒步走几年随便去哪都没问题,在美国法国,超过3个月你没被人抢了那只有一种可能,就是你看起来连乞丐都不如,长的也太丑,同性恋都看不上你。
rcoolduck 发表于 2016-3-8 10:26
留在国内享受黑导游,天价鱼,天价虾,万元假玉,五千元一晚房价,强迫购物团,300一张门票的假古迹是吗
...


你以为国外就是天堂?你去巴厘岛说你是中国人和你是日本人试试买东西价格是不是一样。这地方算是开发的很成熟的外国旅游区了吧。你说这不是发达国家,行,你去法国和意大利问问,旅游上当的少不少,被骗的少不少。没去过,就别瞎说。在国内敢一个人徒步走几年随便去哪都没问题,在美国法国,超过3个月你没被人抢了那只有一种可能,就是你看起来连乞丐都不如,长的也太丑,同性恋都看不上你。
涉及知识产权?
为了对等,找个卖台湾军火的封杀
早杀干净了
没有 摩托 和 贝尔  还有  联发科

再说 摩托的 专利权 在联想

说的主要是骨干网设备,手机终端对中兴是九牛一毛。
欲加之罪,何患无辞
不是放弃美帝市场的问题,中兴公司今后将无法采购任何美国的产品。
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