三哥还是改不了吹牛经济,最新的GDP数字被质疑--BBC。

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BBC报道 三哥4到6月的GDP增长下降到7%, 问题是这个数据也被一些经济学家质疑, 称3哥的GDP数据夸大了经济发展的强度,且很可能是夸大了很多。
另外刚看了澳洲电视对经济学家的采访,印度的银行贷款增长数字是根本和官方GDP对不上,坏账倒是增长的很快。
三哥今年的军购计划估计又是钓鱼的。

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34107648

India's economic growth slows to 7%
31 August 2015

From the section Business
indian economy and food
India's economy grew at an annual rate of 7% between April and June, official figures have shown.
This is slower than the 7.5% growth recorded for the previous quarter, and lower than expected.

India and China - which also posted 7% growth in the second quarter - are now the joint fastest growing major economies in the world.

But some economists have expressed concerns that India's official figures do not accurately reflect true growth.

"At face value, today's GDP figures for [the second quarter] suggest that India matched China as the world's fastest-growing major economy last quarter," said Shilan Shah at Capital Economics.

"But the GDP data remain inconsistent with numerous other indicators which suggest that, at best, the economy is in the early stages of recovery after three years of tepid growth.

"The official GDP data are overstating the strength of the economy, most probably by a significant margin."

'Boost'

With concerns about slowing growth in China, some investors are starting to turn to India as the next driver of global growth.

Some were expecting stronger growth than 7% - in two of the previous three quarters, the Indian economy grew faster than China.

"The GDP number is disappointing but, overall, going ahead we expect India's economic growth to be driven by domestic demand," said Madhavi Arora, from Kotak Mahindra Bank in Mumbai.

"With commodity prices falling, there should be a boost to corporate margins going ahead and household spending should also go up."
Analysis: Simon Atkinson, editor, India Business Report, Mumbai

There will be plenty of people disappointed with this number. Some economists I've spoken to recently thought GDP growth would be closer to 8% - streaking ahead of China's.

Digging into the detail - it looks like growth in Indian manufacturing has slowed from a year ago - a bit of a blow given this is one of the Modi government's main initiatives.

And whether pace picks up in the July-September period will largely depend on the weather. This is the monsoon season and when rains are good and harvest plentiful, rural consumption goes up as people working in agriculture have more money to spend.

But, so far, many parts of the country have seen less rain than you'd expect.
BBC报道 三哥4到6月的GDP增长下降到7%, 问题是这个数据也被一些经济学家质疑, 称3哥的GDP数据夸大了经济发展的强度,且很可能是夸大了很多。
另外刚看了澳洲电视对经济学家的采访,印度的银行贷款增长数字是根本和官方GDP对不上,坏账倒是增长的很快。
三哥今年的军购计划估计又是钓鱼的。

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34107648

India's economic growth slows to 7%
31 August 2015

From the section Business
indian economy and food
India's economy grew at an annual rate of 7% between April and June, official figures have shown.
This is slower than the 7.5% growth recorded for the previous quarter, and lower than expected.

India and China - which also posted 7% growth in the second quarter - are now the joint fastest growing major economies in the world.

But some economists have expressed concerns that India's official figures do not accurately reflect true growth.

"At face value, today's GDP figures for [the second quarter] suggest that India matched China as the world's fastest-growing major economy last quarter," said Shilan Shah at Capital Economics.

"But the GDP data remain inconsistent with numerous other indicators which suggest that, at best, the economy is in the early stages of recovery after three years of tepid growth.

"The official GDP data are overstating the strength of the economy, most probably by a significant margin."

'Boost'

With concerns about slowing growth in China, some investors are starting to turn to India as the next driver of global growth.

Some were expecting stronger growth than 7% - in two of the previous three quarters, the Indian economy grew faster than China.

"The GDP number is disappointing but, overall, going ahead we expect India's economic growth to be driven by domestic demand," said Madhavi Arora, from Kotak Mahindra Bank in Mumbai.

"With commodity prices falling, there should be a boost to corporate margins going ahead and household spending should also go up."
Analysis: Simon Atkinson, editor, India Business Report, Mumbai

There will be plenty of people disappointed with this number. Some economists I've spoken to recently thought GDP growth would be closer to 8% - streaking ahead of China's.

Digging into the detail - it looks like growth in Indian manufacturing has slowed from a year ago - a bit of a blow given this is one of the Modi government's main initiatives.

And whether pace picks up in the July-September period will largely depend on the weather. This is the monsoon season and when rains are good and harvest plentiful, rural consumption goes up as people working in agriculture have more money to spend.

But, so far, many parts of the country have seen less rain than you'd expect.
一个手指头指向三哥,四个手指指向自己,天朝的7%同样是个笑话。
康熙拉了 发表于 2015-9-2 07:49
一个手指头指向三哥,四个手指指向自己,天朝的7%同样是个笑话。
中国规模是印度5倍


能一样
印度统计局必定义正言辞的驳斥这些媒体三个字:一派胡言。
三哥又一个将字了
一个手指头指向三哥,四个手指指向自己,天朝的7%同样是个笑话。
其实全世界的政府都在GDP上讲笑话,方式不同而已,美帝是明目张胆的讲,兔子是含蓄的讲,阿三是耍无聊的讲。
楼上几个集体出没带节奏?
一个手指头指向三哥,四个手指指向自己,天朝的7%同样是个笑话。
中国现在还是要看行业,某些行业现在忙的不得了
行业好的没时间来白白,行业差的整天泡网, 所以网上就成了重灾区。  老夫这个行业比较特殊,整天在网上的。
没必要质疑,料敌从宽
康熙拉了 发表于 2015-9-2 07:49
一个手指头指向三哥,四个手指指向自己,天朝的7%同样是个笑话。
再笑话也就笑了几十年了增长,再笑也就世界第二,再笑过个十年也就世界第一。
行业好的没时间来白白,行业差的整天泡网, 所以网上就成了重灾区。  老夫这个行业比较特殊,整天在网上的 ...
莫非传说中的鉴黄师?

2015-9-2 08:25 上传

阿三今年二月修改gdp算法,14年用了新算法后增长从4.7变成6.9
一个手指头指向三哥,四个手指指向自己,天朝的7%同样是个笑话。
⊙▽⊙这是多畸形的手,才能一个手指头指人,四个指自己呢?
古大叔9世 发表于 2015-9-2 08:21
行业好的没时间来白白,行业差的整天泡网, 所以网上就成了重灾区。  老夫这个行业比较特殊,整天在网上的 ...
为何这么晚才进入CD
⊙▽⊙这是多畸形的手,才能一个手指头指人,四个指自己呢?
理解一下,别人身患残疾。
质疑就质疑吧,老外还不是同样质疑中国gdp?一会质疑多报了,一会质疑瞒报了,没意思。
gdp再大,也没什么意思,清朝的gdp那么大,有什么用?
人均购买力,生活水平,才是正道。
康熙拉了 发表于 2015-9-2 07:49
一个手指头指向三哥,四个手指指向自己,天朝的7%同样是个笑话。
好好的二楼被你这种人浪费。
你说这句话有什么依据?有什么干货?
照这么说,还有一种说法:中国有大量的偷漏税,这都是没有统计进GDP的,比如路边的小摊,人还说中国的GDP少算了呢。
张个嘴谁不会,还不知道会吐出什么来呢。
tg的也好不到哪里去,制造行业现在一堆半死不活的企业,半年前对接的几个企业还一副欣欣向荣的样子,现在则在商量或者酝酿商量谁走谁留的问题。整个情况实在好不到哪里去。
康熙拉了 发表于 2015-9-2 07:49
一个手指头指向三哥,四个手指指向自己,天朝的7%同样是个笑话。
悲催的告诉你 意大利 英国等西欧国家把毒品交易、红灯区也纳入GDP 这才叫民主、自由范 你说是吧

天天看自己国家黑的不行 看国外都是亮的  其实全世界人民都是这样看的
gdp高可以给投资者信心吧
印度脑袋还是很聪明的
韩非非子 发表于 2015-9-2 08:40
好好的二楼被你这种人浪费。
你说这句话有什么依据?有什么干货?
照这么说,还有一种说法:中国有大量 ...
说的是增速你说基数有毛线关系,发言之前你动动脑子,你说的最后一句话还给你。
不同意LZ的说法,BBC同样质疑中国,但不在乎。
最重要的是GDP的金量
中国现在还是要看行业,某些行业现在忙的不得了
反正我等屁民是不瞭解真實情況的,磚家說多少就多少,不過從周邊的各個行業來看,所謂的7就是兩個字:呵呵
围观五毛 发表于 2015-9-2 07:55
印度统计局必定义正言辞的驳斥这些媒体三个字:一派胡言。

好ID~~      
印度的税务局和支出部门早就苦笑,从年初就提出异议
经济不断增长,卢比不断贬值。
康熙拉了 发表于 2015-9-2 07:49
一个手指头指向三哥,四个手指指向自己,天朝的7%同样是个笑话。
某些人,天老大,地老二,他老三,国务院总理都没有他知道的多。
墓地瞎吹GDP早就被印度国内的资本家和国际投资者骂惨了。他们估计印度的经济增长在4%左右。和印度历史平均数差不多。而且增长主要来自第三产业,印度的工业产值从2008年一直就是滞胀,接近零增长。
皿煮的篡改数据就是滋油啊。。
朝云暮雨 发表于 2015-9-2 08:29
阿三今年二月修改gdp算法,14年用了新算法后增长从4.7变成6.9
其中有机肥产量,把人与大畜牲的排泄量都算了进去,这种算法绝对空前绝后

康熙拉了 发表于 2015-9-2 08:45
说的是增速你说基数有毛线关系,发言之前你动动脑子,你说的最后一句话还给你。


调整算法,加入原先基数中未统计的部分,得到的增量就成了当年的“增速”,在发言前请先调查一下西方国家的玩法。
当然三哥的做法更加奇葩,是把前几年的gdp划到上一年,这样一增一减“增速”就更好看了。
GDP这种东西说穿了就跟广告一样,都是假的。
康熙拉了 发表于 2015-9-2 08:45
说的是增速你说基数有毛线关系,发言之前你动动脑子,你说的最后一句话还给你。


调整算法,加入原先基数中未统计的部分,得到的增量就成了当年的“增速”,在发言前请先调查一下西方国家的玩法。
当然三哥的做法更加奇葩,是把前几年的gdp划到上一年,这样一增一减“增速”就更好看了。
GDP这种东西说穿了就跟广告一样,都是假的。
华尔街日报中文网人家已经说啦,印度前景比中国好多啦
质疑就质疑吧,老外还不是同样质疑中国gdp?一会质疑多报了,一会质疑瞒报了,没意思。
gdp再大,也没什么 ...
清朝的GDP真的大么?特别是工业产值?
至于清朝的财政,普法战争后的法国,都比清朝财政收入多的多。
康熙拉了 发表于 2015-9-2 08:45
说的是增速你说基数有毛线关系,发言之前你动动脑子,你说的最后一句话还给你。
奇怪,你是统计局,你是基层统计或者税务干部,你是所有纳税人肚子里的蛔虫?
张口就来,你说的增速有什么依据?
统计局的数字自然有水份,但不信统计局难道信你这种造谣生事的喷子?
未统计的GDP有多少我是不知道的,但增速不是和上一年做比较吗?
既然存在没统计的,谁也没办法说增速是多还是少,你张口就来这不对那不行,我说说有可能更多就不行?
双重标准真溜啊。
我发言自然是没你动脑多喽,咱们这种上网随便逛逛的,哪能和您这么职业的比,是吧。
1966996040 发表于 2015-9-2 08:46
不同意LZ的说法,BBC同样质疑中国,但不在乎。
最重要的是GDP的金量
印度和中国这个还是有点区别的,中国7工业增长比较差,但是好歹还有6%的增速,三哥工业增速这几年差不多只有0.9%;从外贸来看,印度今年出口是百分之十几的下滑,中国上半年出口还是增长的,7月下滑8%也远比印度的百分之十几好;第三个是消费,中国的零售商品总额仍然保持10%以上增速。如果印度在其他数据远低于中国的情况下还取得7%的增长,那么这个很明显可以有中国数据的对比,只能说它做账水平真的很让人难以言语。
shanban2011 发表于 2015-9-2 08:46
反正我等屁民是不瞭解真實情況的,磚家說多少就多少,不過從周邊的各個行業來看,所謂的7就是兩個字:呵 ...
很多人对经济的直观感觉是很差的,如果没有7,你看到的景象会更呵呵,回顾一下98年国企改革那一阵就明白了。

谈起三哥,局座就神彩飞扬。
原来GDP都没人信的