有打算去火星的没有?

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去一个从来没有人去过的地方探险,可以称之为挑战。但是,明知道肯定会一去不返的话,你还愿意去吗?这正是荷兰领导的一家研究机构要做的事情,他们已经开始召募志愿者,参与单程前放火星的计划,并在那里建立一个人类定居点。成功入选的候选者将经过8年的培训,然后在2023年启程。
这家机构名叫Mars One,他们直言不讳地说:“参与者都应该意识到,一旦这项计划成功实施,他们就再也回不来了。”他们目前正在筹划一场大型电视真人秀节目,选出首批24位候选者,并且追踪他们的训练过程,以此来为这一项目筹集资金。在未来10年之内,观众将投票选出首批4位离开地球前往火星的队员。到2033年,火星殖民地将拥有20名定居者。
前往火星的旅程长达6400万千米,具体取决于火星和地球在轨道上的相对位置,时间大约要花200天。定居者将在一片贫瘠的、坑坑洼洼的土地上开始新的生活,那里的空气不可以呼吸,95%都由二氧化碳构成,温度则介于35℃到-135℃之间。
Mars One表示,你不需要接受过任何军事训练,也不需要会开飞机,甚至连理科背景都不需要。想要成为一名候选者,你必须年满18岁,有强烈的使命感,有意愿建立和维持健康的关系,有自我反省和信任他人的能力。你还必须身体健壮、适应能力强、有好奇心和创造力,还得足够机智。
Mars One不会专门去找那些拥有特殊技能的人才,比如医生、飞行员或者地质学家。相反,所有候选者都会接受至少8年的全面培训。他们将学习所有在火星上生活所必需的技能。
下附申请说明链接http://mars-one.com/en/faq-en/21-faq-selection/251-do-i-qualify-to-apply
What are the qualifications to apply?
Qualifications
In 2013 Mars One will conduct a global search to find the best candidates for the first human mission to Mars in 2023. On Mars, the primary responsibility for the astronauts is to keep everything, and everyone, up and running. This will be a particular challenge for the first teams. They will need the skills to solve any potential problem - some of which will be completely unforeseeable. Their combined skill sets of each team member must cover a very wide range of disciplines. The astronauts must be intelligent, creative, psychologically stable and physically healthy. On this page, we offer a brief introduction to the basics of our astronaut selection process.
The astronaut selection process
In spaceflight missions, the primary personal attributes of a successful astronaut are emotional and psychological stability, supported by personal drive and motivation. This is the foundation upon a mission must be built, where human lives are at risk with each flight.
Once on Mars, there is no means to return to Earth. Mars is home. A grounded, deep sense of purpose will help each astronaut maintain his or her psychological stability and focus as they work together toward a shared and better future.
Mars One cannot stress enough the importance of an applicant’s capacity for self-reflection. Without this essential foundation, the five key characteristics listed below cannot be utilized to the fullest potential.
Five Key Characteristics of an Astronaut
Characteristic        Practical Applications
Resiliency       
Your thought processes are persistent.
You persevere and remain productive.
You see the connection between your internal and external self.
You are at your best when things are at their worst.
You have indomitable spirit.
You understand the purpose of actions may not be clear in the moment, but there is good reason—you trust those who guide you.
You have a “Can do!” attitude.
Adaptability       
You adapt to situations and individuals, while taking into account the context of the situation.
You know your boundaries, and how/when to extend them.
You are open and tolerant of ideas and approaches different from your own.
You draw from the unique nature of individual cultural backgrounds.
Curiosity       
You ask questions to understand, not to simply get answers.
You are transferring knowledge to others, not simply showcasing what you know or what others do not.
Ability to Trust       
You trust in yourself and maintain trust in others.
Your trust is built upon good judgment.
You have self-informed trust.
Your reflection on previous experiences helps to inform the exchange of trust.
Creativity / Resourcefulness       
You are flexible in how an issue / problem / situation is approached.
You are not constrained by the way you were initially taught when seeking solutions.
Your humor is a creative resource, used appropriately as an emerging contextual response.
You have a good sense of play and spirit of playfulness.
You are aware of different forms of creativity.
Age
The age range for candidates will be limited. While the exact upper limits have not yet been determined, the lower age limit for applicants to apply for the selection program will be 18 years. By the time this person would land on Mars as an astronaut, he or she would be 28 years of age.
Country of Origin & Language
Mars One accepts applicants from any country in the world. Applications will be made available in several languages. The official language will be English. Nevertheless, when a candidate applies for the selection program, it is not necessary for him or her to possess an extensive knowledge of English: we will provide candidates with documentation in different languages. As applicants progress through the selection procedure, requirements on their english skills will increase.
The astronaut selection program will start in the first half of 2013. Receive updates and announcements regarding the Astronaut Application Program and selection criteria.译文来自果壳 链接:http://www.guokr.com/post/428435/
去一个从来没有人去过的地方探险,可以称之为挑战。但是,明知道肯定会一去不返的话,你还愿意去吗?这正是荷兰领导的一家研究机构要做的事情,他们已经开始召募志愿者,参与单程前放火星的计划,并在那里建立一个人类定居点。成功入选的候选者将经过8年的培训,然后在2023年启程。
这家机构名叫Mars One,他们直言不讳地说:“参与者都应该意识到,一旦这项计划成功实施,他们就再也回不来了。”他们目前正在筹划一场大型电视真人秀节目,选出首批24位候选者,并且追踪他们的训练过程,以此来为这一项目筹集资金。在未来10年之内,观众将投票选出首批4位离开地球前往火星的队员。到2033年,火星殖民地将拥有20名定居者。
前往火星的旅程长达6400万千米,具体取决于火星和地球在轨道上的相对位置,时间大约要花200天。定居者将在一片贫瘠的、坑坑洼洼的土地上开始新的生活,那里的空气不可以呼吸,95%都由二氧化碳构成,温度则介于35℃到-135℃之间。
Mars One表示,你不需要接受过任何军事训练,也不需要会开飞机,甚至连理科背景都不需要。想要成为一名候选者,你必须年满18岁,有强烈的使命感,有意愿建立和维持健康的关系,有自我反省和信任他人的能力。你还必须身体健壮、适应能力强、有好奇心和创造力,还得足够机智。
Mars One不会专门去找那些拥有特殊技能的人才,比如医生、飞行员或者地质学家。相反,所有候选者都会接受至少8年的全面培训。他们将学习所有在火星上生活所必需的技能。
下附申请说明链接http://mars-one.com/en/faq-en/21-faq-selection/251-do-i-qualify-to-apply
What are the qualifications to apply?
Qualifications
In 2013 Mars One will conduct a global search to find the best candidates for the first human mission to Mars in 2023. On Mars, the primary responsibility for the astronauts is to keep everything, and everyone, up and running. This will be a particular challenge for the first teams. They will need the skills to solve any potential problem - some of which will be completely unforeseeable. Their combined skill sets of each team member must cover a very wide range of disciplines. The astronauts must be intelligent, creative, psychologically stable and physically healthy. On this page, we offer a brief introduction to the basics of our astronaut selection process.
The astronaut selection process
In spaceflight missions, the primary personal attributes of a successful astronaut are emotional and psychological stability, supported by personal drive and motivation. This is the foundation upon a mission must be built, where human lives are at risk with each flight.
Once on Mars, there is no means to return to Earth. Mars is home. A grounded, deep sense of purpose will help each astronaut maintain his or her psychological stability and focus as they work together toward a shared and better future.
Mars One cannot stress enough the importance of an applicant’s capacity for self-reflection. Without this essential foundation, the five key characteristics listed below cannot be utilized to the fullest potential.
Five Key Characteristics of an Astronaut
Characteristic        Practical Applications
Resiliency       
Your thought processes are persistent.
You persevere and remain productive.
You see the connection between your internal and external self.
You are at your best when things are at their worst.
You have indomitable spirit.
You understand the purpose of actions may not be clear in the moment, but there is good reason—you trust those who guide you.
You have a “Can do!” attitude.
Adaptability       
You adapt to situations and individuals, while taking into account the context of the situation.
You know your boundaries, and how/when to extend them.
You are open and tolerant of ideas and approaches different from your own.
You draw from the unique nature of individual cultural backgrounds.
Curiosity       
You ask questions to understand, not to simply get answers.
You are transferring knowledge to others, not simply showcasing what you know or what others do not.
Ability to Trust       
You trust in yourself and maintain trust in others.
Your trust is built upon good judgment.
You have self-informed trust.
Your reflection on previous experiences helps to inform the exchange of trust.
Creativity / Resourcefulness       
You are flexible in how an issue / problem / situation is approached.
You are not constrained by the way you were initially taught when seeking solutions.
Your humor is a creative resource, used appropriately as an emerging contextual response.
You have a good sense of play and spirit of playfulness.
You are aware of different forms of creativity.
Age
The age range for candidates will be limited. While the exact upper limits have not yet been determined, the lower age limit for applicants to apply for the selection program will be 18 years. By the time this person would land on Mars as an astronaut, he or she would be 28 years of age.
Country of Origin & Language
Mars One accepts applicants from any country in the world. Applications will be made available in several languages. The official language will be English. Nevertheless, when a candidate applies for the selection program, it is not necessary for him or her to possess an extensive knowledge of English: we will provide candidates with documentation in different languages. As applicants progress through the selection procedure, requirements on their english skills will increase.
The astronaut selection program will start in the first half of 2013. Receive updates and announcements regarding the Astronaut Application Program and selection criteria.
这家机构什么背景不了解,但电视节目多为“名、利”。
只是噱头
说实话,十年前的话,我肯定愿意去。

但现在有家有业,舍不得了。
不过去火星的确单程比往返简单多了,可是去了是必死的,除非一直往那边发给养
就是去死的,这个节目说明真相了么?

S13的噱头节目。
荷兰的电视节目像湖南卫视一样。摆脱不要认真。
我刚从火星回来,那里宰客现象严重,一个盒饭5块,扯蛋啊!

建议大家看看去年翻译出版的《赶往火星》,美国现在有5家机构都在研究这内计划,而且这本书中说明了按目前技术,移居火星的具体方案,和需要的设备,技术等,欧洲在这一块上肯定也在紧锣密鼓的组织,不要小看荷兰,这个欧洲“小国”在欧洲能量不小。我过这方面全都停留在官方,不知这是好事还是坏事,真希望哪位大牛退休了也能在国内搞这么一些组织,至少给我们科普一下相关知识嘛
火星上边有什么生产原料么?连喝的、吃的、呼吸的都得从地球进口。你Y的坑爹啊!
hjjonnet 发表于 2013-1-18 13:44
火星上边有什么生产原料么?连喝的、吃的、呼吸的都得从地球进口。你Y的坑爹啊!
火星有水,有二氧化碳,有土壤。理论上只要有充足能源是可以活下去的。
灶神星 发表于 2013-1-18 13:38
建议大家看看去年翻译出版的《赶往火星》,美国现在有5家机构都在研究这内计划,而且这本书中说明了按目前技 ...
可以留意Mars Direct的方案,利用火星大气的二氧化碳(和从地球带过去的液氢)制造甲烷,提供回程燃料,大大减少发射质量。
seadragon 发表于 2013-1-18 17:14
火星有水,有二氧化碳,有土壤。理论上只要有充足能源是可以活下去的。
假如没有氧气,去了也是死
有妹子陪我就去
seadragon 发表于 2013-1-18 17:19
可以留意Mars Direct的方案,利用火星大气的二氧化碳(和从地球带过去的液氢)制造甲烷,提供回程燃料,大 ...
还是先扔点低等绿藻去比较靠谱。
虽然这需要几百年的时间,但可能正好赶上核能小型化。然后这些低等生物的各种产物正好提供一定的物质基础,特别是有机物基础,比如氧气、甲烷、碳化合物。
要象现在什么都得从无机物开始,而且是低焓的无机物,哪代价之大我觉得不可想像。
hjjonnet 发表于 2013-1-21 11:27
还是先扔点低等绿藻去比较靠谱。
虽然这需要几百年的时间,但可能正好赶上核能小型化。然后这些低等生物 ...
等太久了,要等到24世纪才登陆火星的话人类可以集体自杀了~

"火星直接“的方案是带个小型核电站过去,用电化学的方法制备甲烷和氧(用火星二氧化碳和自带的氢为原料)。
核电系统的功率不用大,花两年时间慢慢运行制造回程所需的燃料。系统是无人的,比载人飞船早两年发射,等实际载人飞船登陆了,燃料都已经准备好了。通过发射数个无人制甲烷系统提供可靠备份,提高任务可靠性。
系统还可以重复使用和满足供电,为可持续基地提供基础。

这么好的方案怎么说TG都应该投入一定资金做可行性研究,技术几乎都是现成的。20年后登火不是梦想,就看我们有没有这个魄力了。
seadragon 发表于 2013-1-18 17:14
火星有水,有二氧化碳,有土壤。理论上只要有充足能源是可以活下去的。
火星上的大气压跟地球上1万米高的差不多,不要说人了,就算有足够的水份,植物都还是不能生长。更何况那里没有磁场,也缺少水。
夏风 发表于 2013-1-22 17:46
火星上的大气压跟地球上1万米高的差不多,不要说人了,就算有足够的水份,植物都还是不能生长。更何况那里 ...
所以一开始肯定是全封闭的加压舱室。火星很大机会有大量的水在地底。
我想去啊,多长时间回来。回不来可不去
单程车票,在地球上活腻了可以考虑
想去,买不起火箭票。。。
好吧,除非地球真的毁灭了,而又想多活半年,这倒是个办法。
早些年有个科幻片,一个宇航员在报废的飞船上在火星活了下来。。
谁想去?我把小泽玛利亚和立花里子买下来送给他路上解闷。
等太久了,要等到24世纪才登陆火星的话人类可以集体自杀了~

"火星直接“的方案是带个小型核电站过去, ...
然后。。。能会来吗?。。。
小炮灰 发表于 2013-1-25 03:55
然后。。。能会来吗?。。。
这个方案是包回程票的。。。。要不造燃料干什么~
登上去“到此一游”也许是本世纪的事,但想开点矿什么的,还是算了吧。
seadragon 发表于 2013-1-21 22:56
等太久了,要等到24世纪才登陆火星的话人类可以集体自杀了~

"火星直接“的方案是带个小型核电站过去, ...
听说过类似方案,虽然技术上是现成可行的,但感觉不确定因素太多,风险不会低,花钱也不会少。

感觉最近20——30年内估计没有人会打载人登陆火星的注意了。