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chinese built? well, if it's built like everything else they make it's probably at the bottom of the ocean by now
PJL500
I suppose you are referring to those awful iPhones, iPads and most of the other electronic gadgets and appliances they build for the US? Not to mention the car parts that are in Lexus, Toyota etc and most of our domestic cars? And on and on... .
purplewidow
Yeah to bad all those were designed by Americans.. The Chinese can assemble with the best of them but creation is a whole different thing.. They take other products and make them cheaply. They do that because they have no EPA regulations... China is a joke. How can you believe anything china releases.. All data is controlled hence manipulated by the government to make them look good.. It only took china
bobringer
"China is a joke" <-- Yet somehow we owe them a trillion dollars. And they are the joke?
中国是笑话，而我们欠他们万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
Brandon Wisenburg
We owe them a Trillion.. they are in desperate need for Air Craft Carriers... I say we sell them an air craft carrier for 1 Trillion Dollars.
LilSquirel
money laundering
currency manipulation
black market sales of organs removed from live donnors
this is china
Shengjun
China has lots of good things, why only focus on bad ones?
Have you ever been to China? If not, please be more objective.
lacompacida
China has alot of bad things, why do Xinhua, People's Daily, Global Times only focus on the good things. Are you saying that they are not objective ?
Shengjun
I'm a Global Times reader. I have to admit the media you mentioned rarely report bad news. But this is understandable because they are state-run. I cannot imagine a state-run newspaper reports bad news everyday, even in US.
So I'm reading CNN these days to listen different voices. Just let all of us be more objective. China has good things as well as bad things, same in US.
We may discuss everything, but please do not insult any country. Also please do not think anything different from US is bad.
lacompacida
And you expect a single person expressing personal opinions withou the resources of a state run media to be objective ? By the way, I don't advocate media to be objective, because everyone, media included, is entitled to opinions, probably multiple conflicting on the same subject. I do think there should be freedom of press and freedom of exression so that people can access vass varieties of opinions, no matter how ultracious and illogical, to form their own. Asking one person to write balanced and objective comments is nuts.
I am all for turning CNN into a state run media so that we can express our opinion without rude interruption.
Robert Tulloch
Yes. When I went is was a disgusting hole.
Shengjun
I'm really really sad you are so impolite and ignorance. China has huge changes today, not the place you imagined. China made tens of thousands of people get ride of poverty and has achieved outstanding progress in almost every fields; China also becomes more open than before, you can discuss everything there including government and country leaders as long as you do not intend to overthrow the authority.
I admit there are still lots of problems in China, corruption, pollution..., but China is in process of improvements. Compare today to days twenty or even ten years ago, you can find the huge changes. Sorry for my poor English.
lacompacida
Ah, I see. Tell what one sees is impolite and ignorant. Everyone should just write s they are told, no doubt.
I envy your ability to pick the periods for comparison, say 20 years. I don't have that luxury. I had to use much longer time lines in Chinese history, like at least 500 years. China did plunge greatly between 1949 and 1979. That must be Obama's fault.
Shengjun
No, that's not Obama's fault, Obama was not born at that time. That should be Truman's fault.
I was not saying telling one's opinion is impolite, but insulting is unacceptable. Like I say, US is a disgusting place, can you accept that?
lacompacida
I am so glad that you lay the blame on Truman for the great leap forward and communes. I had always suspect that Mao was a CIA agent recruited by Truman to contain the growth of China, and Truman had somehow managed to maintain control of Mao after he left office miraculously. Truman must be the greatest controller CIA ever had, and Mao the greatest agent still at large and functioning.
US is A disgusting place, just not as bad as some other places. I am sure you don't think that is insulting. But telling what one can see in China, and reported in Chinese press is, if it doesn't meet you requirement for face.
Shengjun
I am just curious don't you sleep at sleeping time?
I want to tell you you can post anything (except regime overthrow) you see in China in microblogs and forums, such as disaster, corruption, pollution. No one will arrest you. Normally we don't post things in newspaper, because it needs a long time to publish and often I think it's unncessary, internet is a good place to tell things.
lacompacida
Sleeping time ? Never heard of time zones and that the earth is round ?
But I can post about regime overthrow in China or here as much as I want. We actually have regular regime changes here. We even conduct prebicites for separating from the nation. And I can burn my national flag if I want. And posting in newspaper is qick here too. I can publicly ask our leaders to step down, and often do. And our ruling party do not control our military. The state does.
I have never said anything about lack of freedom of speech in China in this thread. But thanks for the "No 300 taels of silver here" confession. But from more reliable sources, such as CCP, the situation is quite different from what you described. Should check with you employer more often. Don't want you to get into no trouble with the Ministry of Communication or what ever name they use in English today.
lacompacida
China had 5000 years to improve already. It had a first class scientific development before 1000 BC, a very good bureaucracy which was copied all over the world in 600 AD, first class army in 1200 AD, great education system before 1600AD, great mail system in 600 BC, printing press in 1200 AD. With those achievements, China was on top of the world producing one third to one half of world production. How did it went from 48th in per capita GDP to 128th between 1949 and 2000, after turning rivers red, sky grey, and hills nude ? What would China do with more time,if 5000 years was not enough ? With the largest army in the world, how did 12,000 European troop defeated the Chinese army in late 19th century so bad that Chinese are still complaining about 12,000 Europeans bullied the 400,000 Chinese army. Chinese had canons back in early Ming dynasty and uses canons to beat up Mongols very successfully. Thats way before Europeans knows how to use canons. But by 1860, Chinese were afraid of European guns. Is that how would more hundreds of years will let China improve ?
Shengjun
US has become the strongest country in the world, so what! Do you remember how was US defeated by China and North korea in 1950? How did Laden hurt US people? I say these just to illustrate history is history. Every country has glorious and sorrowful past. Just like each of us, you have success and failure at different stages of your whole life, but you are always respected by people around you, right? You never imagine how things go ahead. Someday China may grow stronger than US.
lacompacida
Someday PRC may grow stronger than US, so what. Someday Samolia may grow stronger than China. China can go from greatest to Sick Man of East Asia just in a few hundred years, and it may just do an instant replay in the next decade. If you find that insulting, check what you said about others.
lacompacida
Did I say US became strong ? Please check you glasses. What had US's defeat by any one had anything to do with time ain't going to help China ? My point is giving time to China is like guving a rope to China to hang itself. You can say the same for US too, if you like. But US was never as great and strong as China in the 1200AD.
reaz mohmed
Senior "D-Bag", I think you meant to say,"where" as opposed to "when". Furthermore, I believe you left out key words necessary to convey language properly let alone make sound arguments. But I suppose, your mistakes are not your fault; it is difficult to get educated in the public school (American) system,
Sunandan
1)Perjuring presidents
2)Serial war wager
3)Discrimination against Blacks as late as the 60s.
4)Country of stupid imbeciles incapable of differentiating between Sikhs and Muslims.
5) Not capable of deciding whether marijuana is good or bad.
Same was applicable to booze not long ago.
If you are stupid enough to point your finger at some one else, be assured that you guys are not from heaven.The only trouble is that they do not teach you all that in school and CNN is paid to target specific countries.
Stupid hypocrite
John
I take an issue with #3 since the rest of the world tends to act as if they have not engaged in similar atrocities. One only has to turn to soccer (or futbol as you international folks call it) for a number of examples that highlight just how blacks are perceived in these countries. Sorry, but the rest of world is not above the fray. Your hands are just as dirty.
Sunandan
Perhaps my hands are dirtier.That is precisely the reason why i do not act as Holier Than Thou ( just like LilSquirrel on her day away from kindergarten).I do not go on accusing countries of a dozen different crimes even though i have never visited it.I get angry only when LilSquirrels skip school and hop on to their parents' computers and type trash.
Mike
Man...who died and made you the holy maholy?
Sunandan
Did that actually make any sense?
Connor Flowbucket Collins
you points are actually legitimate. usually people from outside the US just spew garbage saying that because of one bad american we are all bad. i appreciate ure unbiasedness
Thein
You got it right, sunandan! Confucius said, 'he who points a finger at others, points three at himself' (or herself).
Matamala3
Wow! Your so progressive!
lacompacida
Which book are you quoting Confucius from ? If he really said that, the saying must be wrong.
herbys
I follow you on most things but on the marijuana thing you are showing your ignorance. The discussion is not whether marijuana is good or bad. Marijuana is a plant, it is as good and as bad as a rock. Its use can also be good or bad, depending on what you consider good or bad for you. What is being argued is whether banning it is good or bad for society. Since the vast majority of countries are waiting to see what the US does and how it works out so they can use it as an example to make their own decision, I would say that is a very bad example of things that are wrong in the US.
Sunandan
My bad. Let us change the perspective to whether Marijuana ought to be banned or not. Lots of confusion, eh ?
Robert Tulloch
Oh yes China is wonderful. The commie scum murdering 30 million when they took over? Real security and freedom. Starting wars such as Korea. Discrimination against ethic minorities. Stupid imbeciles.
What is wrong with America is buying the junk made in China.
reaz mohmed
Lets try this ... I will take your comment and simply replace China with America (with a few fitting minor details), and see if the argument still holds true. "Oh yes [America] is wonderful. The [capitalist] scum murdering [many] when they took over [Vietnam/Korea/Iraq/Afghanistan/Native Americans] ? Real security and freedom. Starting wars such as [Iraq/Afghanistan]. Discrimination against ethic minorities. Stupid imbeciles." Does this work ? I believe it does.
Sunandan
Oh.No it doesn't. You missed the two gifts they dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.Agent Orange on Vietnam.The use of depleted Uranium based munition in Afghanistan and Iraq.
lacompacida
All of that do not add up to 80 million.
Sunandan
There is a rather common phrase where i come from.It goes like "When you do it, it is love.When i do the same, it is molestation". Get my point?
lacompacida
US had never murdered 80 million Americans. China is the only country in history with the hinor of mudering 80 millions of its own people.
I am glad they did though. Many Chinese are proud of Mao too. And I am with them. Very happy that happened.
Sunandan
Again,"When you do it, it is love.When i do the same, it is molestation". Dodo
Flatty
Wrong, they murdered 80 million in total if you include Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution
SopheapAng
How did you know that 30 millions were murdered? Were you kwok zucking in China at the time when it happened? Were you counting the number of Chinese kwoks you had zucked or were you actually counting the dead people? I am just curious.
Sunandan
No.He read it on CNN.The same way they have been reading how evil Vietnamese , Korean and now Chinese people are in general.
Funny thing,they always forget all the atrocities they commit in the name of justice.
lacompacida
CCP supplied the numbers.
lacompacida
30 millions ? Are you the murderer of the other 50 million ? The CCP admitted to at least 37 million just in the great leap forward. Cultural Revolution and other power and class struggles accountedfir another 40 millions. And I am not counting the millions died between 1945 to 1949. Japan killed only 17 millions Chinese in WW2. That's why I like CCP better than Japan. CCP is so much more effective doing what the world needs done.
Sunandan
I replied to1Courageous below.The same applies to you Robert.
reaz mohmed
Zing.
Alan Fischer
Marijuana is the cause of many a child to be abused--while the child's Mother or Daddy is stoned
1Courageous
80 million people dead, the Chinese called it the "Great leap Forward". Explain that, jacko
Sunandan
The way dimwits like you would justify ethnic cleansing of American Indians.The same way you tw!ts justify dropping nuclear bombs on Japan.The same way you imbeciles justify dropping Agent Orange on Vietnam.I am not accusing Americans of being stupid in general(they are not). You are the stup!d Dodo bird with your head buried in sand.
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中国建造的？好了，如果它的建成和其他事物一样，它可能是在海洋的底部，现在
PJL500
我想你指的是那些可怕的iPhone，iPad和其他电子产品和电器，他们建立为美国吗？就更不用说了汽车零部件，雷克萨斯，丰田等，我们国内的汽车吗？而在和... 。
purplewidow
呀坏了那些由美国人设计..中国能凑合用最好的，但创作是一种完全不同的事情..他们采取其他的产品，使他们便宜。他们这样做，是因为他们没有EPA法规...中国是一个笑话。你怎么能相信什么中国..由政府操纵的控制，因此所有的数据，使它们看起来好..只用了中国
bobringer
“中国是一个笑话”< - 然而，不知何故，我们欠他们的一万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
中国是笑话，而我们欠他们万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
布兰登Wisenburg
我们对他们一万亿..他们是空气的航空器运营商迫切需要的...我说，我们卖给他们的航空器载体为1万亿美元。
LilSquirel
洗钱
货币操纵
黑市场销售的机关从现场donnors删除
这是中国
王胜俊
中国有很多好东西，为什么只专注于坏的吗？
你有没有去过中国吗？如果没有，请更客观。
lacompacida
中国有很多不好的事情，为什么新华社，人民日报，环球时报的好东西。你是说，他们是不客观的吗？
王胜俊
我是“环球时报”的读者。我不得不承认，你所提到的媒体极少报道坏消息。但是，这是可以理解的，因为他们是国营的。我不能想象，国营报纸每天报告坏消息，即使是在美国。
所以我在阅读CNN这些天听不同的声音。不过，让我们所有的人是比较客观的。中国有好东西和坏的东西，在美国相同。
我们可以讨论一切，但请不要侮辱任何国家。另外，请不要认为任何与美国不同的是坏的。
lacompacida
你想到一个人，表达个人意见，无需添加一个国营媒体的资源是客观的吗？顺便说一下，我不主张媒体是客观的，因为每个人，媒体，有权的意见，可能是多个关于同一主题的冲突。我觉得应该有新闻自由和自由，使人们可以访问exression增值业务品种的意见，不管如何ultracious和不合逻辑的，形成自己的。叫一个人，写平衡和客观的意见是疯了。
我为CNN到一个国营媒体，使我们可以表达我们的意见，而不粗鲁中断。
罗伯特·塔洛克
是。我去的时候是一个恶心的孔。
王胜俊
我真的真的很伤心，你是如此的无礼，无知。中国有今天的巨大变化，而不是你想象中的地方。中国数万成千上万的人乘坐贫困，几乎在每一个领域，并取得了显着的进展，中国也变得比以前更加开放，您可以讨论一切，包括政府和国家领导人，只要你不打算推翻的权威。
我承认，仍然有很多问题，在中国，腐败，污染......，但中国是在改进的过程中。比较天20，甚至10年前的今天，你可以找到巨大的变化。对不起，我的英语不好。
lacompacida
啊，我明白了。告诉什么人看到的是不礼貌的和无知的。每个人都应该只写小号，他们被告知，毫无疑问的。
我羡慕你挑期间进行比较的能力，比方说20年。我没有这样的奢侈。我不得不用更长的时间线在中国历史上，像至少有500年。中国确实在1949年和1979年之间有很大的暴跌。这一定是奥巴马的错。
王胜俊
不，这不是奥巴马的错，奥巴马不是出生在那个时候。这应该是杜鲁门总统的故障。
我并不是说告诉一个人的意见是不礼貌的，但侮辱是无法接受的。就像我说的，美国是一个恶心的地方，你能接受吗？
lacompacida
我很高兴，你把责任推给杜鲁门的大跃进和人民公社。我一直怀疑，毛泽东是一名CIA特工招募杜鲁门遏制中国的增长，和杜鲁门设法维护毛泽东的控制后，他奇迹般地离开办公室。杜鲁门必须是最大的控制器中央情报局曾经和毛泽东最伟大的代理人仍然在大和运作。
美国是一个恶心的地方，只是没有那么糟糕，因为其他一些地方。我相信你不认为这是一种侮辱。但是，什么可以看到，在中国，在中国媒体报道，如果它不符合你要求的脸。
王胜俊
我只是好奇，你不睡觉，在睡眠时间？
我想告诉你，你可以发布任何东西（除了政权被推翻）你看在中国的微博和论坛，如灾难，腐败，污染。没有人会抓你。通常我们不发表在报纸上的东西，因为它需要很长一段时间发布的时候，我认为这是unncessary，互联网是一个好地方，告诉的事情。
lacompacida
睡眠时间？从来没有听说过的时区和地球是圆的吗？
但我可以政权被推翻后，在中国还是在这里像我想要的。实际上，我们这里有定期的政权更迭。我们甚至进行prebicites，从国家分离。如果我想，我还可以烧我国旗。刊登在报纸上的qick在这里了。我可以公开要求我们的领导人下台，并经常这样做。我们的执政党不控制我们的军队。国家。
我从来没有说过任何关于缺乏言论自由在中国，在这个线程。但是，“无银三百两”忏悔的感谢。但是，从更可靠的来源，如CCP，从你所描述的情况有很大的不同。如果你的雇主经常检查。不想让你进入任何麻烦与通讯部或什么名字，他们在今天的英语。
lacompacida
中国有5000年的提高已经。它有一个一流的科学发展公元前1000年以前，被复制到世界各地，在公元600年的一个很好的官僚作风，一流的军队在公元1200年，伟大的教育系统前1600AD，在公元前600年，伟大的邮件系统，印刷机在1200 AD。这些成就，中国是一个世界总产量的三分之一到二分之一的世界制造上。它是如何从第48位，人均国内生产总值到1949年和2000年之间的128，开机后红，蓝灰色，丘陵河裸？中国将有更多的时间做什么，如果5000年是不够的？在世界上规模最大的军队，怎么12,000欧洲的队伍击败了中国军队在19世纪后期的那么糟糕，中国人仍然抱怨12,000欧洲人欺负的40万中国军队。中国有大炮早在明朝初年，，使用大炮打败了蒙古人非常成功。那之前，欧洲人都知道如何使用大炮。但到1860年，中国人害怕欧洲的枪。是，如何将更多的数百年，让中国提高吗？
王胜俊
美国已成为世界上最强大的国家，还等什么！你还记得被美国打败了中国和朝鲜在1950年？怎么拉登伤害美国的人吗？我说这些只是想说明历史是历史。每个国家都有过去的光荣和悲哀。就像我们每个人，你在你的整个人生的不同阶段，有成功和失败，但你总是尊重你周围的人，对不对？你永远想象不出如何继续。有一天，中国可能会比美国发展壮大。
lacompacida
有一天，中国可能会增长强于美国，还等什么。 ，有一天Samolia增长比中国强。中国可以去最大的东亚病夫，只需几百年，并在未来的十年中，它可能只是做即时重播。如果您发现侮辱，检查你对别人说。
lacompacida
我说，美国变得强大？请检查您的眼镜。有什么美国的任何一个失败都随着时间的推移不会帮助中国吗？我的观点是一次来中国是，像guving到中国来一根绳子挂本身。你可以说美国也一样，如果你喜欢。但是，美国从来没有像大而强为中国在1200AD。
REAZ mohmed
资深“D-BAG”，我想你的意思是说，“在哪里”，而不是“时”。此外，我相信你离开了必要的关键词，正确地传达语言，更不用说有力的论据。不过，我想，你的错误不是你的错，这是难以接受教育，在公立学校系统（美国），
Sunandan
1）作伪证总统
2）串行战争的赌注
3）20世纪60年代后期对黑人的歧视。
4）国家愚蠢的愚蠢，不能锡克教徒和穆斯林之间的差异。
5）不能够决定是否大麻是好还是坏。
适用于酒前不长。
如果你是愚蠢到你的手指指向一些人，放心，你们是不是从heaven.The唯一的麻烦是，他们不教你，在学校和CNN支付给针对特定国家。
愚蠢的伪君子
约翰
＃3我一个问题，因为世界其他地区往往把他们当作自己从来没有参加过类似的暴行。一个人只有把足球（国际人把它FUTBOL）的一些黑人被认为是如何在这些国家的例子来显示。很抱歉，但不高于世界其他地区的磨损。你的手一样脏。
Sunandan
也许我的手dirtier.That正是我之所以不采取行动比你圣洁（，就像LilSquirrel在她的一天从幼儿园）我不走了十几个不同的犯罪指责国家，即使我从来没有去过。 。我生气时LilSquirrels逃学和他们父母的电脑和式垃圾桶上跳。
麦克风
人谁死了，使你的神圣maholy？
Sunandan
这样做有任何意义吗？
康纳Flowbucket柯林斯
你点实际上是合法的。通常人来自美国以外的排放垃圾说，因为一个糟糕的美国，我们都是坏的。我很欣赏茜无偏
登
你这样做是正确的，sunandan！孔子说，“他手指指向别人，分三个自己（或自己）。
Matamala3
哇！您的进！
lacompacida
哪本书引用孔子的呢？如果他真的说了，俗话说一定是错误的。
herbys
我跟你大多数的事情，但对大麻的事情，你是你的无知。讨论的是大麻是否是好还是坏。大麻是一种植物，它的岩石，好和坏。它的使用也可以是好还是坏，这取决于你考虑好或坏的。被认为是，禁止它是否是好或坏的社会。由于绝大多数的国家都在等着看美国和它是如何工作，这样他们就可以使用它作为一个例子，自己做决定，我会说这是一个非常坏的例子是错误的东西，在美国。
Sunandan
我的坏。让我们改变的角度来看，是否应禁止大麻或不。很多混乱，不是吗？
罗伯特·塔洛克
哦，是的，中国是精彩的。党员败类谋杀30万美元时，他们接管了吗？真正的安全和自由。如韩国发动战争。对少数民族考生的歧视。愚蠢的傻瓜。
美国购买中国制造的垃圾，什么是错的。
REAZ mohmed
让我们来试试这个...我会接受你的意见，并简单地取代中国与美国（配件有几个微小的细节），如果参数仍然是成立的。 “哦，是[美国]是美好的。”[资本主义]败类杀人的[多]当他们接管了越南/韩国/伊拉克/阿富汗/原住民美国人真正的安全和自由。如伊拉克/阿富汗战争。对少数民族考生的歧视。愚蠢的傻瓜。“这项工作吗？我相信它。
Sunandan
Oh.No事实并非如此。你错过了两件礼物，他们放弃了越南。在阿富汗和伊拉克使用贫化铀弹药广岛和Nagasaki.Agent的橙色。
lacompacida
所有这一切都加起来也不到80万。
Sunandan
我来from.It古话叫做“当你这样做，这是love.When我做同样的，是一种相当常见的词组，它是性骚扰”。明白我的意思吗？
lacompacida
美国从来没有杀害80万美国人。中国是唯一的国家在历史上与mudering 8000万本国人民的hinor。
我高兴他们虽然。许多中国人引以为傲的毛。我与他们同在。非常高兴的是，发生了什么。
Sunandan
再次，“当你这样做，这是love.When我做同样的，它是性骚扰”。突突
Flatty
错了，他们谋杀了80万美元的总，如果你有大跃进和文革
SopheapAng
你怎么知道被杀害，30百万？你国zucking在中国的时候，它发生的呢？你指望的数量中国郭氏你zucked的，或你在实际计算死去的人呢？我只是好奇。
Sunandan
No.He CNN.The同样的方式，他们一直在阅读如何邪恶，越南，韩国和中国人一般是阅读。
有趣的事情，他们总是忘了他们犯下的暴行，在正义的名义。
lacompacida
中共提供的号码。
lacompacida
3000万？另外50万的凶手？中共承认至少有37万只的巨大飞跃。文革和其他权力和阶级斗争accountedfir另一个4000万美元。我不计数的数百万人死于1945年至1949年。日本只有17万中国人在二战死亡。这就是为什么我喜欢CCP优于日本。中国共产党是更有效的做需要做什么世界。
Sunandan
，我回答to1Courageous below.The同样适用于您罗伯特。
REAZ mohmed
诚。
艾伦·菲舍尔
大麻是许多孩子被滥用的原因 - 而孩子的妈妈或爸爸用石头打
1Courageous
80万人死了，中国人把它称为“大跃进”。解释说，雅科
Sunandan
愚笨的人类像你这样的方式证明种族清洗的美国印地安人相同的方式，你总重量TS证明投下核弹的日本。蠢人辩解下降橙剂Vietnam.I一般是愚蠢的，我并不是指责美国相同的方式（他们都不是）。您是STUP！ð的dodo鸟与你的头埋在沙。
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chinese built? well, if it's built like everything else they make it's probably at the bottom of the ocean by now
PJL500
I suppose you are referring to those awful iPhones, iPads and most of the other electronic gadgets and appliances they build for the US? Not to mention the car parts that are in Lexus, Toyota etc and most of our domestic cars? And on and on... .
purplewidow
Yeah to bad all those were designed by Americans.. The Chinese can assemble with the best of them but creation is a whole different thing.. They take other products and make them cheaply. They do that because they have no EPA regulations... China is a joke. How can you believe anything china releases.. All data is controlled hence manipulated by the government to make them look good.. It only took china
bobringer
"China is a joke" <-- Yet somehow we owe them a trillion dollars. And they are the joke?
中国是笑话，而我们欠他们万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
Brandon Wisenburg
We owe them a Trillion.. they are in desperate need for Air Craft Carriers... I say we sell them an air craft carrier for 1 Trillion Dollars.
LilSquirel
money laundering
currency manipulation
black market sales of organs removed from live donnors
this is china
Shengjun
China has lots of good things, why only focus on bad ones?
Have you ever been to China? If not, please be more objective.
lacompacida
China has alot of bad things, why do Xinhua, People's Daily, Global Times only focus on the good things. Are you saying that they are not objective ?
Shengjun
I'm a Global Times reader. I have to admit the media you mentioned rarely report bad news. But this is understandable because they are state-run. I cannot imagine a state-run newspaper reports bad news everyday, even in US.
So I'm reading CNN these days to listen different voices. Just let all of us be more objective. China has good things as well as bad things, same in US.
We may discuss everything, but please do not insult any country. Also please do not think anything different from US is bad.
lacompacida
And you expect a single person expressing personal opinions withou the resources of a state run media to be objective ? By the way, I don't advocate media to be objective, because everyone, media included, is entitled to opinions, probably multiple conflicting on the same subject. I do think there should be freedom of press and freedom of exression so that people can access vass varieties of opinions, no matter how ultracious and illogical, to form their own. Asking one person to write balanced and objective comments is nuts.
I am all for turning CNN into a state run media so that we can express our opinion without rude interruption.
Robert Tulloch
Yes. When I went is was a disgusting hole.
Shengjun
I'm really really sad you are so impolite and ignorance. China has huge changes today, not the place you imagined. China made tens of thousands of people get ride of poverty and has achieved outstanding progress in almost every fields; China also becomes more open than before, you can discuss everything there including government and country leaders as long as you do not intend to overthrow the authority.
I admit there are still lots of problems in China, corruption, pollution..., but China is in process of improvements. Compare today to days twenty or even ten years ago, you can find the huge changes. Sorry for my poor English.
lacompacida
Ah, I see. Tell what one sees is impolite and ignorant. Everyone should just write s they are told, no doubt.
I envy your ability to pick the periods for comparison, say 20 years. I don't have that luxury. I had to use much longer time lines in Chinese history, like at least 500 years. China did plunge greatly between 1949 and 1979. That must be Obama's fault.
Shengjun
No, that's not Obama's fault, Obama was not born at that time. That should be Truman's fault.
I was not saying telling one's opinion is impolite, but insulting is unacceptable. Like I say, US is a disgusting place, can you accept that?
lacompacida
I am so glad that you lay the blame on Truman for the great leap forward and communes. I had always suspect that Mao was a CIA agent recruited by Truman to contain the growth of China, and Truman had somehow managed to maintain control of Mao after he left office miraculously. Truman must be the greatest controller CIA ever had, and Mao the greatest agent still at large and functioning.
US is A disgusting place, just not as bad as some other places. I am sure you don't think that is insulting. But telling what one can see in China, and reported in Chinese press is, if it doesn't meet you requirement for face.
Shengjun
I am just curious don't you sleep at sleeping time?
I want to tell you you can post anything (except regime overthrow) you see in China in microblogs and forums, such as disaster, corruption, pollution. No one will arrest you. Normally we don't post things in newspaper, because it needs a long time to publish and often I think it's unncessary, internet is a good place to tell things.
lacompacida
Sleeping time ? Never heard of time zones and that the earth is round ?
But I can post about regime overthrow in China or here as much as I want. We actually have regular regime changes here. We even conduct prebicites for separating from the nation. And I can burn my national flag if I want. And posting in newspaper is qick here too. I can publicly ask our leaders to step down, and often do. And our ruling party do not control our military. The state does.
I have never said anything about lack of freedom of speech in China in this thread. But thanks for the "No 300 taels of silver here" confession. But from more reliable sources, such as CCP, the situation is quite different from what you described. Should check with you employer more often. Don't want you to get into no trouble with the Ministry of Communication or what ever name they use in English today.
lacompacida
China had 5000 years to improve already. It had a first class scientific development before 1000 BC, a very good bureaucracy which was copied all over the world in 600 AD, first class army in 1200 AD, great education system before 1600AD, great mail system in 600 BC, printing press in 1200 AD. With those achievements, China was on top of the world producing one third to one half of world production. How did it went from 48th in per capita GDP to 128th between 1949 and 2000, after turning rivers red, sky grey, and hills nude ? What would China do with more time,if 5000 years was not enough ? With the largest army in the world, how did 12,000 European troop defeated the Chinese army in late 19th century so bad that Chinese are still complaining about 12,000 Europeans bullied the 400,000 Chinese army. Chinese had canons back in early Ming dynasty and uses canons to beat up Mongols very successfully. Thats way before Europeans knows how to use canons. But by 1860, Chinese were afraid of European guns. Is that how would more hundreds of years will let China improve ?
Shengjun
US has become the strongest country in the world, so what! Do you remember how was US defeated by China and North korea in 1950? How did Laden hurt US people? I say these just to illustrate history is history. Every country has glorious and sorrowful past. Just like each of us, you have success and failure at different stages of your whole life, but you are always respected by people around you, right? You never imagine how things go ahead. Someday China may grow stronger than US.
lacompacida
Someday PRC may grow stronger than US, so what. Someday Samolia may grow stronger than China. China can go from greatest to Sick Man of East Asia just in a few hundred years, and it may just do an instant replay in the next decade. If you find that insulting, check what you said about others.
lacompacida
Did I say US became strong ? Please check you glasses. What had US's defeat by any one had anything to do with time ain't going to help China ? My point is giving time to China is like guving a rope to China to hang itself. You can say the same for US too, if you like. But US was never as great and strong as China in the 1200AD.
reaz mohmed
Senior "D-Bag", I think you meant to say,"where" as opposed to "when". Furthermore, I believe you left out key words necessary to convey language properly let alone make sound arguments. But I suppose, your mistakes are not your fault; it is difficult to get educated in the public school (American) system,
Sunandan
1)Perjuring presidents
2)Serial war wager
3)Discrimination against Blacks as late as the 60s.
4)Country of stupid imbeciles incapable of differentiating between Sikhs and Muslims.
5) Not capable of deciding whether marijuana is good or bad.
Same was applicable to booze not long ago.
If you are stupid enough to point your finger at some one else, be assured that you guys are not from heaven.The only trouble is that they do not teach you all that in school and CNN is paid to target specific countries.
Stupid hypocrite
John
I take an issue with #3 since the rest of the world tends to act as if they have not engaged in similar atrocities. One only has to turn to soccer (or futbol as you international folks call it) for a number of examples that highlight just how blacks are perceived in these countries. Sorry, but the rest of world is not above the fray. Your hands are just as dirty.
Sunandan
Perhaps my hands are dirtier.That is precisely the reason why i do not act as Holier Than Thou ( just like LilSquirrel on her day away from kindergarten).I do not go on accusing countries of a dozen different crimes even though i have never visited it.I get angry only when LilSquirrels skip school and hop on to their parents' computers and type trash.
Mike
Man...who died and made you the holy maholy?
Sunandan
Did that actually make any sense?
Connor Flowbucket Collins
you points are actually legitimate. usually people from outside the US just spew garbage saying that because of one bad american we are all bad. i appreciate ure unbiasedness
Thein
You got it right, sunandan! Confucius said, 'he who points a finger at others, points three at himself' (or herself).
Matamala3
Wow! Your so progressive!
lacompacida
Which book are you quoting Confucius from ? If he really said that, the saying must be wrong.
herbys
I follow you on most things but on the marijuana thing you are showing your ignorance. The discussion is not whether marijuana is good or bad. Marijuana is a plant, it is as good and as bad as a rock. Its use can also be good or bad, depending on what you consider good or bad for you. What is being argued is whether banning it is good or bad for society. Since the vast majority of countries are waiting to see what the US does and how it works out so they can use it as an example to make their own decision, I would say that is a very bad example of things that are wrong in the US.
Sunandan
My bad. Let us change the perspective to whether Marijuana ought to be banned or not. Lots of confusion, eh ?
Robert Tulloch
Oh yes China is wonderful. The commie scum murdering 30 million when they took over? Real security and freedom. Starting wars such as Korea. Discrimination against ethic minorities. Stupid imbeciles.
What is wrong with America is buying the junk made in China.
reaz mohmed
Lets try this ... I will take your comment and simply replace China with America (with a few fitting minor details), and see if the argument still holds true. "Oh yes [America] is wonderful. The [capitalist] scum murdering [many] when they took over [Vietnam/Korea/Iraq/Afghanistan/Native Americans] ? Real security and freedom. Starting wars such as [Iraq/Afghanistan]. Discrimination against ethic minorities. Stupid imbeciles." Does this work ? I believe it does.
Sunandan
Oh.No it doesn't. You missed the two gifts they dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.Agent Orange on Vietnam.The use of depleted Uranium based munition in Afghanistan and Iraq.
lacompacida
All of that do not add up to 80 million.
Sunandan
There is a rather common phrase where i come from.It goes like "When you do it, it is love.When i do the same, it is molestation". Get my point?
lacompacida
US had never murdered 80 million Americans. China is the only country in history with the hinor of mudering 80 millions of its own people.
I am glad they did though. Many Chinese are proud of Mao too. And I am with them. Very happy that happened.
Sunandan
Again,"When you do it, it is love.When i do the same, it is molestation". Dodo
Flatty
Wrong, they murdered 80 million in total if you include Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution
SopheapAng
How did you know that 30 millions were murdered? Were you kwok zucking in China at the time when it happened? Were you counting the number of Chinese kwoks you had zucked or were you actually counting the dead people? I am just curious.
Sunandan
No.He read it on CNN.The same way they have been reading how evil Vietnamese , Korean and now Chinese people are in general.
Funny thing,they always forget all the atrocities they commit in the name of justice.
lacompacida
CCP supplied the numbers.
lacompacida
30 millions ? Are you the murderer of the other 50 million ? The CCP admitted to at least 37 million just in the great leap forward. Cultural Revolution and other power and class struggles accountedfir another 40 millions. And I am not counting the millions died between 1945 to 1949. Japan killed only 17 millions Chinese in WW2. That's why I like CCP better than Japan. CCP is so much more effective doing what the world needs done.
Sunandan
I replied to1Courageous below.The same applies to you Robert.
reaz mohmed
Zing.
Alan Fischer
Marijuana is the cause of many a child to be abused--while the child's Mother or Daddy is stoned
1Courageous
80 million people dead, the Chinese called it the "Great leap Forward". Explain that, jacko
Sunandan
The way dimwits like you would justify ethnic cleansing of American Indians.The same way you tw!ts justify dropping nuclear bombs on Japan.The same way you imbeciles justify dropping Agent Orange on Vietnam.I am not accusing Americans of being stupid in general(they are not). You are the stup!d Dodo bird with your head buried in sand.
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中国建造的？好了，如果它的建成和其他事物一样，它可能是在海洋的底部，现在
PJL500
我想你指的是那些可怕的iPhone，iPad和其他电子产品和电器，他们建立为美国吗？就更不用说了汽车零部件，雷克萨斯，丰田等，我们国内的汽车吗？而在和... 。
purplewidow
呀坏了那些由美国人设计..中国能凑合用最好的，但创作是一种完全不同的事情..他们采取其他的产品，使他们便宜。他们这样做，是因为他们没有EPA法规...中国是一个笑话。你怎么能相信什么中国..由政府操纵的控制，因此所有的数据，使它们看起来好..只用了中国
bobringer
“中国是一个笑话”< - 然而，不知何故，我们欠他们的一万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
中国是笑话，而我们欠他们万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
布兰登Wisenburg
我们对他们一万亿..他们是空气的航空器运营商迫切需要的...我说，我们卖给他们的航空器载体为1万亿美元。
LilSquirel
洗钱
货币操纵
黑市场销售的机关从现场donnors删除
这是中国
王胜俊
中国有很多好东西，为什么只专注于坏的吗？
你有没有去过中国吗？如果没有，请更客观。
lacompacida
中国有很多不好的事情，为什么新华社，人民日报，环球时报的好东西。你是说，他们是不客观的吗？
王胜俊
我是“环球时报”的读者。我不得不承认，你所提到的媒体极少报道坏消息。但是，这是可以理解的，因为他们是国营的。我不能想象，国营报纸每天报告坏消息，即使是在美国。
所以我在阅读CNN这些天听不同的声音。不过，让我们所有的人是比较客观的。中国有好东西和坏的东西，在美国相同。
我们可以讨论一切，但请不要侮辱任何国家。另外，请不要认为任何与美国不同的是坏的。
lacompacida
你想到一个人，表达个人意见，无需添加一个国营媒体的资源是客观的吗？顺便说一下，我不主张媒体是客观的，因为每个人，媒体，有权的意见，可能是多个关于同一主题的冲突。我觉得应该有新闻自由和自由，使人们可以访问exression增值业务品种的意见，不管如何ultracious和不合逻辑的，形成自己的。叫一个人，写平衡和客观的意见是疯了。
我为CNN到一个国营媒体，使我们可以表达我们的意见，而不粗鲁中断。
罗伯特·塔洛克
是。我去的时候是一个恶心的孔。
王胜俊
我真的真的很伤心，你是如此的无礼，无知。中国有今天的巨大变化，而不是你想象中的地方。中国数万成千上万的人乘坐贫困，几乎在每一个领域，并取得了显着的进展，中国也变得比以前更加开放，您可以讨论一切，包括政府和国家领导人，只要你不打算推翻的权威。
我承认，仍然有很多问题，在中国，腐败，污染......，但中国是在改进的过程中。比较天20，甚至10年前的今天，你可以找到巨大的变化。对不起，我的英语不好。
lacompacida
啊，我明白了。告诉什么人看到的是不礼貌的和无知的。每个人都应该只写小号，他们被告知，毫无疑问的。
我羡慕你挑期间进行比较的能力，比方说20年。我没有这样的奢侈。我不得不用更长的时间线在中国历史上，像至少有500年。中国确实在1949年和1979年之间有很大的暴跌。这一定是奥巴马的错。
王胜俊
不，这不是奥巴马的错，奥巴马不是出生在那个时候。这应该是杜鲁门总统的故障。
我并不是说告诉一个人的意见是不礼貌的，但侮辱是无法接受的。就像我说的，美国是一个恶心的地方，你能接受吗？
lacompacida
我很高兴，你把责任推给杜鲁门的大跃进和人民公社。我一直怀疑，毛泽东是一名CIA特工招募杜鲁门遏制中国的增长，和杜鲁门设法维护毛泽东的控制后，他奇迹般地离开办公室。杜鲁门必须是最大的控制器中央情报局曾经和毛泽东最伟大的代理人仍然在大和运作。
美国是一个恶心的地方，只是没有那么糟糕，因为其他一些地方。我相信你不认为这是一种侮辱。但是，什么可以看到，在中国，在中国媒体报道，如果它不符合你要求的脸。
王胜俊
我只是好奇，你不睡觉，在睡眠时间？
我想告诉你，你可以发布任何东西（除了政权被推翻）你看在中国的微博和论坛，如灾难，腐败，污染。没有人会抓你。通常我们不发表在报纸上的东西，因为它需要很长一段时间发布的时候，我认为这是unncessary，互联网是一个好地方，告诉的事情。
lacompacida
睡眠时间？从来没有听说过的时区和地球是圆的吗？
但我可以政权被推翻后，在中国还是在这里像我想要的。实际上，我们这里有定期的政权更迭。我们甚至进行prebicites，从国家分离。如果我想，我还可以烧我国旗。刊登在报纸上的qick在这里了。我可以公开要求我们的领导人下台，并经常这样做。我们的执政党不控制我们的军队。国家。
我从来没有说过任何关于缺乏言论自由在中国，在这个线程。但是，“无银三百两”忏悔的感谢。但是，从更可靠的来源，如CCP，从你所描述的情况有很大的不同。如果你的雇主经常检查。不想让你进入任何麻烦与通讯部或什么名字，他们在今天的英语。
lacompacida
中国有5000年的提高已经。它有一个一流的科学发展公元前1000年以前，被复制到世界各地，在公元600年的一个很好的官僚作风，一流的军队在公元1200年，伟大的教育系统前1600AD，在公元前600年，伟大的邮件系统，印刷机在1200 AD。这些成就，中国是一个世界总产量的三分之一到二分之一的世界制造上。它是如何从第48位，人均国内生产总值到1949年和2000年之间的128，开机后红，蓝灰色，丘陵河裸？中国将有更多的时间做什么，如果5000年是不够的？在世界上规模最大的军队，怎么12,000欧洲的队伍击败了中国军队在19世纪后期的那么糟糕，中国人仍然抱怨12,000欧洲人欺负的40万中国军队。中国有大炮早在明朝初年，，使用大炮打败了蒙古人非常成功。那之前，欧洲人都知道如何使用大炮。但到1860年，中国人害怕欧洲的枪。是，如何将更多的数百年，让中国提高吗？
王胜俊
美国已成为世界上最强大的国家，还等什么！你还记得被美国打败了中国和朝鲜在1950年？怎么拉登伤害美国的人吗？我说这些只是想说明历史是历史。每个国家都有过去的光荣和悲哀。就像我们每个人，你在你的整个人生的不同阶段，有成功和失败，但你总是尊重你周围的人，对不对？你永远想象不出如何继续。有一天，中国可能会比美国发展壮大。
lacompacida
有一天，中国可能会增长强于美国，还等什么。 ，有一天Samolia增长比中国强。中国可以去最大的东亚病夫，只需几百年，并在未来的十年中，它可能只是做即时重播。如果您发现侮辱，检查你对别人说。
lacompacida
我说，美国变得强大？请检查您的眼镜。有什么美国的任何一个失败都随着时间的推移不会帮助中国吗？我的观点是一次来中国是，像guving到中国来一根绳子挂本身。你可以说美国也一样，如果你喜欢。但是，美国从来没有像大而强为中国在1200AD。
REAZ mohmed
资深“D-BAG”，我想你的意思是说，“在哪里”，而不是“时”。此外，我相信你离开了必要的关键词，正确地传达语言，更不用说有力的论据。不过，我想，你的错误不是你的错，这是难以接受教育，在公立学校系统（美国），
Sunandan
1）作伪证总统
2）串行战争的赌注
3）20世纪60年代后期对黑人的歧视。
4）国家愚蠢的愚蠢，不能锡克教徒和穆斯林之间的差异。
5）不能够决定是否大麻是好还是坏。
适用于酒前不长。
如果你是愚蠢到你的手指指向一些人，放心，你们是不是从heaven.The唯一的麻烦是，他们不教你，在学校和CNN支付给针对特定国家。
愚蠢的伪君子
约翰
＃3我一个问题，因为世界其他地区往往把他们当作自己从来没有参加过类似的暴行。一个人只有把足球（国际人把它FUTBOL）的一些黑人被认为是如何在这些国家的例子来显示。很抱歉，但不高于世界其他地区的磨损。你的手一样脏。
Sunandan
也许我的手dirtier.That正是我之所以不采取行动比你圣洁（，就像LilSquirrel在她的一天从幼儿园）我不走了十几个不同的犯罪指责国家，即使我从来没有去过。 。我生气时LilSquirrels逃学和他们父母的电脑和式垃圾桶上跳。
麦克风
人谁死了，使你的神圣maholy？
Sunandan
这样做有任何意义吗？
康纳Flowbucket柯林斯
你点实际上是合法的。通常人来自美国以外的排放垃圾说，因为一个糟糕的美国，我们都是坏的。我很欣赏茜无偏
登
你这样做是正确的，sunandan！孔子说，“他手指指向别人，分三个自己（或自己）。
Matamala3
哇！您的进！
lacompacida
哪本书引用孔子的呢？如果他真的说了，俗话说一定是错误的。
herbys
我跟你大多数的事情，但对大麻的事情，你是你的无知。讨论的是大麻是否是好还是坏。大麻是一种植物，它的岩石，好和坏。它的使用也可以是好还是坏，这取决于你考虑好或坏的。被认为是，禁止它是否是好或坏的社会。由于绝大多数的国家都在等着看美国和它是如何工作，这样他们就可以使用它作为一个例子，自己做决定，我会说这是一个非常坏的例子是错误的东西，在美国。
Sunandan
我的坏。让我们改变的角度来看，是否应禁止大麻或不。很多混乱，不是吗？
罗伯特·塔洛克
哦，是的，中国是精彩的。党员败类谋杀30万美元时，他们接管了吗？真正的安全和自由。如韩国发动战争。对少数民族考生的歧视。愚蠢的傻瓜。
美国购买中国制造的垃圾，什么是错的。
REAZ mohmed
让我们来试试这个...我会接受你的意见，并简单地取代中国与美国（配件有几个微小的细节），如果参数仍然是成立的。 “哦，是[美国]是美好的。”[资本主义]败类杀人的[多]当他们接管了越南/韩国/伊拉克/阿富汗/原住民美国人真正的安全和自由。如伊拉克/阿富汗战争。对少数民族考生的歧视。愚蠢的傻瓜。“这项工作吗？我相信它。
Sunandan
Oh.No事实并非如此。你错过了两件礼物，他们放弃了越南。在阿富汗和伊拉克使用贫化铀弹药广岛和Nagasaki.Agent的橙色。
lacompacida
所有这一切都加起来也不到80万。
Sunandan
我来from.It古话叫做“当你这样做，这是love.When我做同样的，是一种相当常见的词组，它是性骚扰”。明白我的意思吗？
lacompacida
美国从来没有杀害80万美国人。中国是唯一的国家在历史上与mudering 8000万本国人民的hinor。
我高兴他们虽然。许多中国人引以为傲的毛。我与他们同在。非常高兴的是，发生了什么。
Sunandan
再次，“当你这样做，这是love.When我做同样的，它是性骚扰”。突突
Flatty
错了，他们谋杀了80万美元的总，如果你有大跃进和文革
SopheapAng
你怎么知道被杀害，30百万？你国zucking在中国的时候，它发生的呢？你指望的数量中国郭氏你zucked的，或你在实际计算死去的人呢？我只是好奇。
Sunandan
No.He CNN.The同样的方式，他们一直在阅读如何邪恶，越南，韩国和中国人一般是阅读。
有趣的事情，他们总是忘了他们犯下的暴行，在正义的名义。
lacompacida
中共提供的号码。
lacompacida
3000万？另外50万的凶手？中共承认至少有37万只的巨大飞跃。文革和其他权力和阶级斗争accountedfir另一个4000万美元。我不计数的数百万人死于1945年至1949年。日本只有17万中国人在二战死亡。这就是为什么我喜欢CCP优于日本。中国共产党是更有效的做需要做什么世界。
Sunandan
，我回答to1Courageous below.The同样适用于您罗伯特。
REAZ mohmed
诚。
艾伦·菲舍尔
大麻是许多孩子被滥用的原因 - 而孩子的妈妈或爸爸用石头打
1Courageous
80万人死了，中国人把它称为“大跃进”。解释说，雅科
Sunandan
愚笨的人类像你这样的方式证明种族清洗的美国印地安人相同的方式，你总重量TS证明投下核弹的日本。蠢人辩解下降橙剂Vietnam.I一般是愚蠢的，我并不是指责美国相同的方式（他们都不是）。您是STUP！ð的dodo鸟与你的头埋在沙。
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PJL500
I suppose you are referring to those awful iPhones, iPads and most of the other electronic gadgets and appliances they build for the US? Not to mention the car parts that are in Lexus, Toyota etc and most of our domestic cars? And on and on... .
purplewidow
Yeah to bad all those were designed by Americans.. The Chinese can assemble with the best of them but creation is a whole different thing.. They take other products and make them cheaply. They do that because they have no EPA regulations... China is a joke. How can you believe anything china releases.. All data is controlled hence manipulated by the government to make them look good.. It only took china
bobringer
"China is a joke" <-- Yet somehow we owe them a trillion dollars. And they are the joke?
中国是笑话，而我们欠他们万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
Brandon Wisenburg
We owe them a Trillion.. they are in desperate need for Air Craft Carriers... I say we sell them an air craft carrier for 1 Trillion Dollars.
LilSquirel
money laundering
currency manipulation
black market sales of organs removed from live donnors
this is china
Shengjun
China has lots of good things, why only focus on bad ones?
Have you ever been to China? If not, please be more objective.
lacompacida
China has alot of bad things, why do Xinhua, People's Daily, Global Times only focus on the good things. Are you saying that they are not objective ?
Shengjun
I'm a Global Times reader. I have to admit the media you mentioned rarely report bad news. But this is understandable because they are state-run. I cannot imagine a state-run newspaper reports bad news everyday, even in US.
So I'm reading CNN these days to listen different voices. Just let all of us be more objective. China has good things as well as bad things, same in US.
We may discuss everything, but please do not insult any country. Also please do not think anything different from US is bad.
lacompacida
And you expect a single person expressing personal opinions withou the resources of a state run media to be objective ? By the way, I don't advocate media to be objective, because everyone, media included, is entitled to opinions, probably multiple conflicting on the same subject. I do think there should be freedom of press and freedom of exression so that people can access vass varieties of opinions, no matter how ultracious and illogical, to form their own. Asking one person to write balanced and objective comments is nuts.
I am all for turning CNN into a state run media so that we can express our opinion without rude interruption.
Robert Tulloch
Yes. When I went is was a disgusting hole.
Shengjun
I'm really really sad you are so impolite and ignorance. China has huge changes today, not the place you imagined. China made tens of thousands of people get ride of poverty and has achieved outstanding progress in almost every fields; China also becomes more open than before, you can discuss everything there including government and country leaders as long as you do not intend to overthrow the authority.
I admit there are still lots of problems in China, corruption, pollution..., but China is in process of improvements. Compare today to days twenty or even ten years ago, you can find the huge changes. Sorry for my poor English.
lacompacida
Ah, I see. Tell what one sees is impolite and ignorant. Everyone should just write s they are told, no doubt.
I envy your ability to pick the periods for comparison, say 20 years. I don't have that luxury. I had to use much longer time lines in Chinese history, like at least 500 years. China did plunge greatly between 1949 and 1979. That must be Obama's fault.
Shengjun
No, that's not Obama's fault, Obama was not born at that time. That should be Truman's fault.
I was not saying telling one's opinion is impolite, but insulting is unacceptable. Like I say, US is a disgusting place, can you accept that?
lacompacida
I am so glad that you lay the blame on Truman for the great leap forward and communes. I had always suspect that Mao was a CIA agent recruited by Truman to contain the growth of China, and Truman had somehow managed to maintain control of Mao after he left office miraculously. Truman must be the greatest controller CIA ever had, and Mao the greatest agent still at large and functioning.
US is A disgusting place, just not as bad as some other places. I am sure you don't think that is insulting. But telling what one can see in China, and reported in Chinese press is, if it doesn't meet you requirement for face.
Shengjun
I am just curious don't you sleep at sleeping time?
I want to tell you you can post anything (except regime overthrow) you see in China in microblogs and forums, such as disaster, corruption, pollution. No one will arrest you. Normally we don't post things in newspaper, because it needs a long time to publish and often I think it's unncessary, internet is a good place to tell things.
lacompacida
Sleeping time ? Never heard of time zones and that the earth is round ?
But I can post about regime overthrow in China or here as much as I want. We actually have regular regime changes here. We even conduct prebicites for separating from the nation. And I can burn my national flag if I want. And posting in newspaper is qick here too. I can publicly ask our leaders to step down, and often do. And our ruling party do not control our military. The state does.
I have never said anything about lack of freedom of speech in China in this thread. But thanks for the "No 300 taels of silver here" confession. But from more reliable sources, such as CCP, the situation is quite different from what you described. Should check with you employer more often. Don't want you to get into no trouble with the Ministry of Communication or what ever name they use in English today.
lacompacida
China had 5000 years to improve already. It had a first class scientific development before 1000 BC, a very good bureaucracy which was copied all over the world in 600 AD, first class army in 1200 AD, great education system before 1600AD, great mail system in 600 BC, printing press in 1200 AD. With those achievements, China was on top of the world producing one third to one half of world production. How did it went from 48th in per capita GDP to 128th between 1949 and 2000, after turning rivers red, sky grey, and hills nude ? What would China do with more time,if 5000 years was not enough ? With the largest army in the world, how did 12,000 European troop defeated the Chinese army in late 19th century so bad that Chinese are still complaining about 12,000 Europeans bullied the 400,000 Chinese army. Chinese had canons back in early Ming dynasty and uses canons to beat up Mongols very successfully. Thats way before Europeans knows how to use canons. But by 1860, Chinese were afraid of European guns. Is that how would more hundreds of years will let China improve ?
Shengjun
US has become the strongest country in the world, so what! Do you remember how was US defeated by China and North korea in 1950? How did Laden hurt US people? I say these just to illustrate history is history. Every country has glorious and sorrowful past. Just like each of us, you have success and failure at different stages of your whole life, but you are always respected by people around you, right? You never imagine how things go ahead. Someday China may grow stronger than US.
lacompacida
Someday PRC may grow stronger than US, so what. Someday Samolia may grow stronger than China. China can go from greatest to Sick Man of East Asia just in a few hundred years, and it may just do an instant replay in the next decade. If you find that insulting, check what you said about others.
lacompacida
Did I say US became strong ? Please check you glasses. What had US's defeat by any one had anything to do with time ain't going to help China ? My point is giving time to China is like guving a rope to China to hang itself. You can say the same for US too, if you like. But US was never as great and strong as China in the 1200AD.
reaz mohmed
Senior "D-Bag", I think you meant to say,"where" as opposed to "when". Furthermore, I believe you left out key words necessary to convey language properly let alone make sound arguments. But I suppose, your mistakes are not your fault; it is difficult to get educated in the public school (American) system,
Sunandan
1)Perjuring presidents
2)Serial war wager
3)Discrimination against Blacks as late as the 60s.
4)Country of stupid imbeciles incapable of differentiating between Sikhs and Muslims.
5) Not capable of deciding whether marijuana is good or bad.
Same was applicable to booze not long ago.
If you are stupid enough to point your finger at some one else, be assured that you guys are not from heaven.The only trouble is that they do not teach you all that in school and CNN is paid to target specific countries.
Stupid hypocrite
John
I take an issue with #3 since the rest of the world tends to act as if they have not engaged in similar atrocities. One only has to turn to soccer (or futbol as you international folks call it) for a number of examples that highlight just how blacks are perceived in these countries. Sorry, but the rest of world is not above the fray. Your hands are just as dirty.
Sunandan
Perhaps my hands are dirtier.That is precisely the reason why i do not act as Holier Than Thou ( just like LilSquirrel on her day away from kindergarten).I do not go on accusing countries of a dozen different crimes even though i have never visited it.I get angry only when LilSquirrels skip school and hop on to their parents' computers and type trash.
Mike
Man...who died and made you the holy maholy?
Sunandan
Did that actually make any sense?
Connor Flowbucket Collins
you points are actually legitimate. usually people from outside the US just spew garbage saying that because of one bad american we are all bad. i appreciate ure unbiasedness
Thein
You got it right, sunandan! Confucius said, 'he who points a finger at others, points three at himself' (or herself).
Matamala3
Wow! Your so progressive!
lacompacida
Which book are you quoting Confucius from ? If he really said that, the saying must be wrong.
herbys
I follow you on most things but on the marijuana thing you are showing your ignorance. The discussion is not whether marijuana is good or bad. Marijuana is a plant, it is as good and as bad as a rock. Its use can also be good or bad, depending on what you consider good or bad for you. What is being argued is whether banning it is good or bad for society. Since the vast majority of countries are waiting to see what the US does and how it works out so they can use it as an example to make their own decision, I would say that is a very bad example of things that are wrong in the US.
Sunandan
My bad. Let us change the perspective to whether Marijuana ought to be banned or not. Lots of confusion, eh ?
Robert Tulloch
Oh yes China is wonderful. The commie scum murdering 30 million when they took over? Real security and freedom. Starting wars such as Korea. Discrimination against ethic minorities. Stupid imbeciles.
What is wrong with America is buying the junk made in China.
reaz mohmed
Lets try this ... I will take your comment and simply replace China with America (with a few fitting minor details), and see if the argument still holds true. "Oh yes [America] is wonderful. The [capitalist] scum murdering [many] when they took over [Vietnam/Korea/Iraq/Afghanistan/Native Americans] ? Real security and freedom. Starting wars such as [Iraq/Afghanistan]. Discrimination against ethic minorities. Stupid imbeciles." Does this work ? I believe it does.
Sunandan
Oh.No it doesn't. You missed the two gifts they dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.Agent Orange on Vietnam.The use of depleted Uranium based munition in Afghanistan and Iraq.
lacompacida
All of that do not add up to 80 million.
Sunandan
There is a rather common phrase where i come from.It goes like "When you do it, it is love.When i do the same, it is molestation". Get my point?
lacompacida
US had never murdered 80 million Americans. China is the only country in history with the hinor of mudering 80 millions of its own people.
I am glad they did though. Many Chinese are proud of Mao too. And I am with them. Very happy that happened.
Sunandan
Again,"When you do it, it is love.When i do the same, it is molestation". Dodo
Flatty
Wrong, they murdered 80 million in total if you include Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution
SopheapAng
How did you know that 30 millions were murdered? Were you kwok zucking in China at the time when it happened? Were you counting the number of Chinese kwoks you had zucked or were you actually counting the dead people? I am just curious.
Sunandan
No.He read it on CNN.The same way they have been reading how evil Vietnamese , Korean and now Chinese people are in general.
Funny thing,they always forget all the atrocities they commit in the name of justice.
lacompacida
CCP supplied the numbers.
lacompacida
30 millions ? Are you the murderer of the other 50 million ? The CCP admitted to at least 37 million just in the great leap forward. Cultural Revolution and other power and class struggles accountedfir another 40 millions. And I am not counting the millions died between 1945 to 1949. Japan killed only 17 millions Chinese in WW2. That's why I like CCP better than Japan. CCP is so much more effective doing what the world needs done.
Sunandan
I replied to1Courageous below.The same applies to you Robert.
reaz mohmed
Zing.
Alan Fischer
Marijuana is the cause of many a child to be abused--while the child's Mother or Daddy is stoned
1Courageous
80 million people dead, the Chinese called it the "Great leap Forward". Explain that, jacko
Sunandan
The way dimwits like you would justify ethnic cleansing of American Indians.The same way you tw!ts justify dropping nuclear bombs on Japan.The same way you imbeciles justify dropping Agent Orange on Vietnam.I am not accusing Americans of being stupid in general(they are not). You are the stup!d Dodo bird with your head buried in sand.
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中国建造的？好了，如果它的建成和其他事物一样，它可能是在海洋的底部，现在
PJL500
我想你指的是那些可怕的iPhone，iPad和其他电子产品和电器，他们建立为美国吗？就更不用说了汽车零部件，雷克萨斯，丰田等，我们国内的汽车吗？而在和... 。
purplewidow
呀坏了那些由美国人设计..中国能凑合用最好的，但创作是一种完全不同的事情..他们采取其他的产品，使他们便宜。他们这样做，是因为他们没有EPA法规...中国是一个笑话。你怎么能相信什么中国..由政府操纵的控制，因此所有的数据，使它们看起来好..只用了中国
bobringer
“中国是一个笑话”< - 然而，不知何故，我们欠他们的一万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
中国是笑话，而我们欠他们万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
布兰登Wisenburg
我们对他们一万亿..他们是空气的航空器运营商迫切需要的...我说，我们卖给他们的航空器载体为1万亿美元。
LilSquirel
洗钱
货币操纵
黑市场销售的机关从现场donnors删除
这是中国
王胜俊
中国有很多好东西，为什么只专注于坏的吗？
你有没有去过中国吗？如果没有，请更客观。
lacompacida
中国有很多不好的事情，为什么新华社，人民日报，环球时报的好东西。你是说，他们是不客观的吗？
王胜俊
我是“环球时报”的读者。我不得不承认，你所提到的媒体极少报道坏消息。但是，这是可以理解的，因为他们是国营的。我不能想象，国营报纸每天报告坏消息，即使是在美国。
所以我在阅读CNN这些天听不同的声音。不过，让我们所有的人是比较客观的。中国有好东西和坏的东西，在美国相同。
我们可以讨论一切，但请不要侮辱任何国家。另外，请不要认为任何与美国不同的是坏的。
lacompacida
你想到一个人，表达个人意见，无需添加一个国营媒体的资源是客观的吗？顺便说一下，我不主张媒体是客观的，因为每个人，媒体，有权的意见，可能是多个关于同一主题的冲突。我觉得应该有新闻自由和自由，使人们可以访问exression增值业务品种的意见，不管如何ultracious和不合逻辑的，形成自己的。叫一个人，写平衡和客观的意见是疯了。
我为CNN到一个国营媒体，使我们可以表达我们的意见，而不粗鲁中断。
罗伯特·塔洛克
是。我去的时候是一个恶心的孔。
王胜俊
我真的真的很伤心，你是如此的无礼，无知。中国有今天的巨大变化，而不是你想象中的地方。中国数万成千上万的人乘坐贫困，几乎在每一个领域，并取得了显着的进展，中国也变得比以前更加开放，您可以讨论一切，包括政府和国家领导人，只要你不打算推翻的权威。
我承认，仍然有很多问题，在中国，腐败，污染......，但中国是在改进的过程中。比较天20，甚至10年前的今天，你可以找到巨大的变化。对不起，我的英语不好。
lacompacida
啊，我明白了。告诉什么人看到的是不礼貌的和无知的。每个人都应该只写小号，他们被告知，毫无疑问的。
我羡慕你挑期间进行比较的能力，比方说20年。我没有这样的奢侈。我不得不用更长的时间线在中国历史上，像至少有500年。中国确实在1949年和1979年之间有很大的暴跌。这一定是奥巴马的错。
王胜俊
不，这不是奥巴马的错，奥巴马不是出生在那个时候。这应该是杜鲁门总统的故障。
我并不是说告诉一个人的意见是不礼貌的，但侮辱是无法接受的。就像我说的，美国是一个恶心的地方，你能接受吗？
lacompacida
我很高兴，你把责任推给杜鲁门的大跃进和人民公社。我一直怀疑，毛泽东是一名CIA特工招募杜鲁门遏制中国的增长，和杜鲁门设法维护毛泽东的控制后，他奇迹般地离开办公室。杜鲁门必须是最大的控制器中央情报局曾经和毛泽东最伟大的代理人仍然在大和运作。
美国是一个恶心的地方，只是没有那么糟糕，因为其他一些地方。我相信你不认为这是一种侮辱。但是，什么可以看到，在中国，在中国媒体报道，如果它不符合你要求的脸。
王胜俊
我只是好奇，你不睡觉，在睡眠时间？
我想告诉你，你可以发布任何东西（除了政权被推翻）你看在中国的微博和论坛，如灾难，腐败，污染。没有人会抓你。通常我们不发表在报纸上的东西，因为它需要很长一段时间发布的时候，我认为这是unncessary，互联网是一个好地方，告诉的事情。
lacompacida
睡眠时间？从来没有听说过的时区和地球是圆的吗？
但我可以政权被推翻后，在中国还是在这里像我想要的。实际上，我们这里有定期的政权更迭。我们甚至进行prebicites，从国家分离。如果我想，我还可以烧我国旗。刊登在报纸上的qick在这里了。我可以公开要求我们的领导人下台，并经常这样做。我们的执政党不控制我们的军队。国家。
我从来没有说过任何关于缺乏言论自由在中国，在这个线程。但是，“无银三百两”忏悔的感谢。但是，从更可靠的来源，如CCP，从你所描述的情况有很大的不同。如果你的雇主经常检查。不想让你进入任何麻烦与通讯部或什么名字，他们在今天的英语。
lacompacida
中国有5000年的提高已经。它有一个一流的科学发展公元前1000年以前，被复制到世界各地，在公元600年的一个很好的官僚作风，一流的军队在公元1200年，伟大的教育系统前1600AD，在公元前600年，伟大的邮件系统，印刷机在1200 AD。这些成就，中国是一个世界总产量的三分之一到二分之一的世界制造上。它是如何从第48位，人均国内生产总值到1949年和2000年之间的128，开机后红，蓝灰色，丘陵河裸？中国将有更多的时间做什么，如果5000年是不够的？在世界上规模最大的军队，怎么12,000欧洲的队伍击败了中国军队在19世纪后期的那么糟糕，中国人仍然抱怨12,000欧洲人欺负的40万中国军队。中国有大炮早在明朝初年，，使用大炮打败了蒙古人非常成功。那之前，欧洲人都知道如何使用大炮。但到1860年，中国人害怕欧洲的枪。是，如何将更多的数百年，让中国提高吗？
王胜俊
美国已成为世界上最强大的国家，还等什么！你还记得被美国打败了中国和朝鲜在1950年？怎么拉登伤害美国的人吗？我说这些只是想说明历史是历史。每个国家都有过去的光荣和悲哀。就像我们每个人，你在你的整个人生的不同阶段，有成功和失败，但你总是尊重你周围的人，对不对？你永远想象不出如何继续。有一天，中国可能会比美国发展壮大。
lacompacida
有一天，中国可能会增长强于美国，还等什么。 ，有一天Samolia增长比中国强。中国可以去最大的东亚病夫，只需几百年，并在未来的十年中，它可能只是做即时重播。如果您发现侮辱，检查你对别人说。
lacompacida
我说，美国变得强大？请检查您的眼镜。有什么美国的任何一个失败都随着时间的推移不会帮助中国吗？我的观点是一次来中国是，像guving到中国来一根绳子挂本身。你可以说美国也一样，如果你喜欢。但是，美国从来没有像大而强为中国在1200AD。
REAZ mohmed
资深“D-BAG”，我想你的意思是说，“在哪里”，而不是“时”。此外，我相信你离开了必要的关键词，正确地传达语言，更不用说有力的论据。不过，我想，你的错误不是你的错，这是难以接受教育，在公立学校系统（美国），
Sunandan
1）作伪证总统
2）串行战争的赌注
3）20世纪60年代后期对黑人的歧视。
4）国家愚蠢的愚蠢，不能锡克教徒和穆斯林之间的差异。
5）不能够决定是否大麻是好还是坏。
适用于酒前不长。
如果你是愚蠢到你的手指指向一些人，放心，你们是不是从heaven.The唯一的麻烦是，他们不教你，在学校和CNN支付给针对特定国家。
愚蠢的伪君子
约翰
＃3我一个问题，因为世界其他地区往往把他们当作自己从来没有参加过类似的暴行。一个人只有把足球（国际人把它FUTBOL）的一些黑人被认为是如何在这些国家的例子来显示。很抱歉，但不高于世界其他地区的磨损。你的手一样脏。
Sunandan
也许我的手dirtier.That正是我之所以不采取行动比你圣洁（，就像LilSquirrel在她的一天从幼儿园）我不走了十几个不同的犯罪指责国家，即使我从来没有去过。 。我生气时LilSquirrels逃学和他们父母的电脑和式垃圾桶上跳。
麦克风
人谁死了，使你的神圣maholy？
Sunandan
这样做有任何意义吗？
康纳Flowbucket柯林斯
你点实际上是合法的。通常人来自美国以外的排放垃圾说，因为一个糟糕的美国，我们都是坏的。我很欣赏茜无偏
登
你这样做是正确的，sunandan！孔子说，“他手指指向别人，分三个自己（或自己）。
Matamala3
哇！您的进！
lacompacida
哪本书引用孔子的呢？如果他真的说了，俗话说一定是错误的。
herbys
我跟你大多数的事情，但对大麻的事情，你是你的无知。讨论的是大麻是否是好还是坏。大麻是一种植物，它的岩石，好和坏。它的使用也可以是好还是坏，这取决于你考虑好或坏的。被认为是，禁止它是否是好或坏的社会。由于绝大多数的国家都在等着看美国和它是如何工作，这样他们就可以使用它作为一个例子，自己做决定，我会说这是一个非常坏的例子是错误的东西，在美国。
Sunandan
我的坏。让我们改变的角度来看，是否应禁止大麻或不。很多混乱，不是吗？
罗伯特·塔洛克
哦，是的，中国是精彩的。党员败类谋杀30万美元时，他们接管了吗？真正的安全和自由。如韩国发动战争。对少数民族考生的歧视。愚蠢的傻瓜。
美国购买中国制造的垃圾，什么是错的。
REAZ mohmed
让我们来试试这个...我会接受你的意见，并简单地取代中国与美国（配件有几个微小的细节），如果参数仍然是成立的。 “哦，是[美国]是美好的。”[资本主义]败类杀人的[多]当他们接管了越南/韩国/伊拉克/阿富汗/原住民美国人真正的安全和自由。如伊拉克/阿富汗战争。对少数民族考生的歧视。愚蠢的傻瓜。“这项工作吗？我相信它。
Sunandan
Oh.No事实并非如此。你错过了两件礼物，他们放弃了越南。在阿富汗和伊拉克使用贫化铀弹药广岛和Nagasaki.Agent的橙色。
lacompacida
所有这一切都加起来也不到80万。
Sunandan
我来from.It古话叫做“当你这样做，这是love.When我做同样的，是一种相当常见的词组，它是性骚扰”。明白我的意思吗？
lacompacida
美国从来没有杀害80万美国人。中国是唯一的国家在历史上与mudering 8000万本国人民的hinor。
我高兴他们虽然。许多中国人引以为傲的毛。我与他们同在。非常高兴的是，发生了什么。
Sunandan
再次，“当你这样做，这是love.When我做同样的，它是性骚扰”。突突
Flatty
错了，他们谋杀了80万美元的总，如果你有大跃进和文革
SopheapAng
你怎么知道被杀害，30百万？你国zucking在中国的时候，它发生的呢？你指望的数量中国郭氏你zucked的，或你在实际计算死去的人呢？我只是好奇。
Sunandan
No.He CNN.The同样的方式，他们一直在阅读如何邪恶，越南，韩国和中国人一般是阅读。
有趣的事情，他们总是忘了他们犯下的暴行，在正义的名义。
lacompacida
中共提供的号码。
lacompacida
3000万？另外50万的凶手？中共承认至少有37万只的巨大飞跃。文革和其他权力和阶级斗争accountedfir另一个4000万美元。我不计数的数百万人死于1945年至1949年。日本只有17万中国人在二战死亡。这就是为什么我喜欢CCP优于日本。中国共产党是更有效的做需要做什么世界。
Sunandan
，我回答to1Courageous below.The同样适用于您罗伯特。
REAZ mohmed
诚。
艾伦·菲舍尔
大麻是许多孩子被滥用的原因 - 而孩子的妈妈或爸爸用石头打
1Courageous
80万人死了，中国人把它称为“大跃进”。解释说，雅科
Sunandan
愚笨的人类像你这样的方式证明种族清洗的美国印地安人相同的方式，你总重量TS证明投下核弹的日本。蠢人辩解下降橙剂Vietnam.I一般是愚蠢的，我并不是指责美国相同的方式（他们都不是）。您是STUP！ð的dodo鸟与你的头埋在沙。
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chinese built? well, if it's built like everything else they make it's probably at the bottom of the ocean by now
PJL500
I suppose you are referring to those awful iPhones, iPads and most of the other electronic gadgets and appliances they build for the US? Not to mention the car parts that are in Lexus, Toyota etc and most of our domestic cars? And on and on... .
purplewidow
Yeah to bad all those were designed by Americans.. The Chinese can assemble with the best of them but creation is a whole different thing.. They take other products and make them cheaply. They do that because they have no EPA regulations... China is a joke. How can you believe anything china releases.. All data is controlled hence manipulated by the government to make them look good.. It only took china
bobringer
"China is a joke" <-- Yet somehow we owe them a trillion dollars. And they are the joke?
中国是笑话，而我们欠他们万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
Brandon Wisenburg
We owe them a Trillion.. they are in desperate need for Air Craft Carriers... I say we sell them an air craft carrier for 1 Trillion Dollars.
LilSquirel
money laundering
currency manipulation
black market sales of organs removed from live donnors
this is china
Shengjun
China has lots of good things, why only focus on bad ones?
Have you ever been to China? If not, please be more objective.
lacompacida
China has alot of bad things, why do Xinhua, People's Daily, Global Times only focus on the good things. Are you saying that they are not objective ?
Shengjun
I'm a Global Times reader. I have to admit the media you mentioned rarely report bad news. But this is understandable because they are state-run. I cannot imagine a state-run newspaper reports bad news everyday, even in US.
So I'm reading CNN these days to listen different voices. Just let all of us be more objective. China has good things as well as bad things, same in US.
We may discuss everything, but please do not insult any country. Also please do not think anything different from US is bad.
lacompacida
And you expect a single person expressing personal opinions withou the resources of a state run media to be objective ? By the way, I don't advocate media to be objective, because everyone, media included, is entitled to opinions, probably multiple conflicting on the same subject. I do think there should be freedom of press and freedom of exression so that people can access vass varieties of opinions, no matter how ultracious and illogical, to form their own. Asking one person to write balanced and objective comments is nuts.
I am all for turning CNN into a state run media so that we can express our opinion without rude interruption.
Robert Tulloch
Yes. When I went is was a disgusting hole.
Shengjun
I'm really really sad you are so impolite and ignorance. China has huge changes today, not the place you imagined. China made tens of thousands of people get ride of poverty and has achieved outstanding progress in almost every fields; China also becomes more open than before, you can discuss everything there including government and country leaders as long as you do not intend to overthrow the authority.
I admit there are still lots of problems in China, corruption, pollution..., but China is in process of improvements. Compare today to days twenty or even ten years ago, you can find the huge changes. Sorry for my poor English.
lacompacida
Ah, I see. Tell what one sees is impolite and ignorant. Everyone should just write s they are told, no doubt.
I envy your ability to pick the periods for comparison, say 20 years. I don't have that luxury. I had to use much longer time lines in Chinese history, like at least 500 years. China did plunge greatly between 1949 and 1979. That must be Obama's fault.
Shengjun
No, that's not Obama's fault, Obama was not born at that time. That should be Truman's fault.
I was not saying telling one's opinion is impolite, but insulting is unacceptable. Like I say, US is a disgusting place, can you accept that?
lacompacida
I am so glad that you lay the blame on Truman for the great leap forward and communes. I had always suspect that Mao was a CIA agent recruited by Truman to contain the growth of China, and Truman had somehow managed to maintain control of Mao after he left office miraculously. Truman must be the greatest controller CIA ever had, and Mao the greatest agent still at large and functioning.
US is A disgusting place, just not as bad as some other places. I am sure you don't think that is insulting. But telling what one can see in China, and reported in Chinese press is, if it doesn't meet you requirement for face.
Shengjun
I am just curious don't you sleep at sleeping time?
I want to tell you you can post anything (except regime overthrow) you see in China in microblogs and forums, such as disaster, corruption, pollution. No one will arrest you. Normally we don't post things in newspaper, because it needs a long time to publish and often I think it's unncessary, internet is a good place to tell things.
lacompacida
Sleeping time ? Never heard of time zones and that the earth is round ?
But I can post about regime overthrow in China or here as much as I want. We actually have regular regime changes here. We even conduct prebicites for separating from the nation. And I can burn my national flag if I want. And posting in newspaper is qick here too. I can publicly ask our leaders to step down, and often do. And our ruling party do not control our military. The state does.
I have never said anything about lack of freedom of speech in China in this thread. But thanks for the "No 300 taels of silver here" confession. But from more reliable sources, such as CCP, the situation is quite different from what you described. Should check with you employer more often. Don't want you to get into no trouble with the Ministry of Communication or what ever name they use in English today.
lacompacida
China had 5000 years to improve already. It had a first class scientific development before 1000 BC, a very good bureaucracy which was copied all over the world in 600 AD, first class army in 1200 AD, great education system before 1600AD, great mail system in 600 BC, printing press in 1200 AD. With those achievements, China was on top of the world producing one third to one half of world production. How did it went from 48th in per capita GDP to 128th between 1949 and 2000, after turning rivers red, sky grey, and hills nude ? What would China do with more time,if 5000 years was not enough ? With the largest army in the world, how did 12,000 European troop defeated the Chinese army in late 19th century so bad that Chinese are still complaining about 12,000 Europeans bullied the 400,000 Chinese army. Chinese had canons back in early Ming dynasty and uses canons to beat up Mongols very successfully. Thats way before Europeans knows how to use canons. But by 1860, Chinese were afraid of European guns. Is that how would more hundreds of years will let China improve ?
Shengjun
US has become the strongest country in the world, so what! Do you remember how was US defeated by China and North korea in 1950? How did Laden hurt US people? I say these just to illustrate history is history. Every country has glorious and sorrowful past. Just like each of us, you have success and failure at different stages of your whole life, but you are always respected by people around you, right? You never imagine how things go ahead. Someday China may grow stronger than US.
lacompacida
Someday PRC may grow stronger than US, so what. Someday Samolia may grow stronger than China. China can go from greatest to Sick Man of East Asia just in a few hundred years, and it may just do an instant replay in the next decade. If you find that insulting, check what you said about others.
lacompacida
Did I say US became strong ? Please check you glasses. What had US's defeat by any one had anything to do with time ain't going to help China ? My point is giving time to China is like guving a rope to China to hang itself. You can say the same for US too, if you like. But US was never as great and strong as China in the 1200AD.
reaz mohmed
Senior "D-Bag", I think you meant to say,"where" as opposed to "when". Furthermore, I believe you left out key words necessary to convey language properly let alone make sound arguments. But I suppose, your mistakes are not your fault; it is difficult to get educated in the public school (American) system,
Sunandan
1)Perjuring presidents
2)Serial war wager
3)Discrimination against Blacks as late as the 60s.
4)Country of stupid imbeciles incapable of differentiating between Sikhs and Muslims.
5) Not capable of deciding whether marijuana is good or bad.
Same was applicable to booze not long ago.
If you are stupid enough to point your finger at some one else, be assured that you guys are not from heaven.The only trouble is that they do not teach you all that in school and CNN is paid to target specific countries.
Stupid hypocrite
John
I take an issue with #3 since the rest of the world tends to act as if they have not engaged in similar atrocities. One only has to turn to soccer (or futbol as you international folks call it) for a number of examples that highlight just how blacks are perceived in these countries. Sorry, but the rest of world is not above the fray. Your hands are just as dirty.
Sunandan
Perhaps my hands are dirtier.That is precisely the reason why i do not act as Holier Than Thou ( just like LilSquirrel on her day away from kindergarten).I do not go on accusing countries of a dozen different crimes even though i have never visited it.I get angry only when LilSquirrels skip school and hop on to their parents' computers and type trash.
Mike
Man...who died and made you the holy maholy?
Sunandan
Did that actually make any sense?
Connor Flowbucket Collins
you points are actually legitimate. usually people from outside the US just spew garbage saying that because of one bad american we are all bad. i appreciate ure unbiasedness
Thein
You got it right, sunandan! Confucius said, 'he who points a finger at others, points three at himself' (or herself).
Matamala3
Wow! Your so progressive!
lacompacida
Which book are you quoting Confucius from ? If he really said that, the saying must be wrong.
herbys
I follow you on most things but on the marijuana thing you are showing your ignorance. The discussion is not whether marijuana is good or bad. Marijuana is a plant, it is as good and as bad as a rock. Its use can also be good or bad, depending on what you consider good or bad for you. What is being argued is whether banning it is good or bad for society. Since the vast majority of countries are waiting to see what the US does and how it works out so they can use it as an example to make their own decision, I would say that is a very bad example of things that are wrong in the US.
Sunandan
My bad. Let us change the perspective to whether Marijuana ought to be banned or not. Lots of confusion, eh ?
Robert Tulloch
Oh yes China is wonderful. The commie scum murdering 30 million when they took over? Real security and freedom. Starting wars such as Korea. Discrimination against ethic minorities. Stupid imbeciles.
What is wrong with America is buying the junk made in China.
reaz mohmed
Lets try this ... I will take your comment and simply replace China with America (with a few fitting minor details), and see if the argument still holds true. "Oh yes [America] is wonderful. The [capitalist] scum murdering [many] when they took over [Vietnam/Korea/Iraq/Afghanistan/Native Americans] ? Real security and freedom. Starting wars such as [Iraq/Afghanistan]. Discrimination against ethic minorities. Stupid imbeciles." Does this work ? I believe it does.
Sunandan
Oh.No it doesn't. You missed the two gifts they dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.Agent Orange on Vietnam.The use of depleted Uranium based munition in Afghanistan and Iraq.
lacompacida
All of that do not add up to 80 million.
Sunandan
There is a rather common phrase where i come from.It goes like "When you do it, it is love.When i do the same, it is molestation". Get my point?
lacompacida
US had never murdered 80 million Americans. China is the only country in history with the hinor of mudering 80 millions of its own people.
I am glad they did though. Many Chinese are proud of Mao too. And I am with them. Very happy that happened.
Sunandan
Again,"When you do it, it is love.When i do the same, it is molestation". Dodo
Flatty
Wrong, they murdered 80 million in total if you include Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution
SopheapAng
How did you know that 30 millions were murdered? Were you kwok zucking in China at the time when it happened? Were you counting the number of Chinese kwoks you had zucked or were you actually counting the dead people? I am just curious.
Sunandan
No.He read it on CNN.The same way they have been reading how evil Vietnamese , Korean and now Chinese people are in general.
Funny thing,they always forget all the atrocities they commit in the name of justice.
lacompacida
CCP supplied the numbers.
lacompacida
30 millions ? Are you the murderer of the other 50 million ? The CCP admitted to at least 37 million just in the great leap forward. Cultural Revolution and other power and class struggles accountedfir another 40 millions. And I am not counting the millions died between 1945 to 1949. Japan killed only 17 millions Chinese in WW2. That's why I like CCP better than Japan. CCP is so much more effective doing what the world needs done.
Sunandan
I replied to1Courageous below.The same applies to you Robert.
reaz mohmed
Zing.
Alan Fischer
Marijuana is the cause of many a child to be abused--while the child's Mother or Daddy is stoned
1Courageous
80 million people dead, the Chinese called it the "Great leap Forward". Explain that, jacko
Sunandan
The way dimwits like you would justify ethnic cleansing of American Indians.The same way you tw!ts justify dropping nuclear bombs on Japan.The same way you imbeciles justify dropping Agent Orange on Vietnam.I am not accusing Americans of being stupid in general(they are not). You are the stup!d Dodo bird with your head buried in sand.
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中国建造的？好了，如果它的建成和其他事物一样，它可能是在海洋的底部，现在
PJL500
我想你指的是那些可怕的iPhone，iPad和其他电子产品和电器，他们建立为美国吗？就更不用说了汽车零部件，雷克萨斯，丰田等，我们国内的汽车吗？而在和... 。
purplewidow
呀坏了那些由美国人设计..中国能凑合用最好的，但创作是一种完全不同的事情..他们采取其他的产品，使他们便宜。他们这样做，是因为他们没有EPA法规...中国是一个笑话。你怎么能相信什么中国..由政府操纵的控制，因此所有的数据，使它们看起来好..只用了中国
bobringer
“中国是一个笑话”< - 然而，不知何故，我们欠他们的一万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
中国是笑话，而我们欠他们万亿美元。他们是笑话吗？
布兰登Wisenburg
我们对他们一万亿..他们是空气的航空器运营商迫切需要的...我说，我们卖给他们的航空器载体为1万亿美元。
LilSquirel
洗钱
货币操纵
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这是中国
王胜俊
中国有很多好东西，为什么只专注于坏的吗？
你有没有去过中国吗？如果没有，请更客观。
lacompacida
中国有很多不好的事情，为什么新华社，人民日报，环球时报的好东西。你是说，他们是不客观的吗？
王胜俊
我是“环球时报”的读者。我不得不承认，你所提到的媒体极少报道坏消息。但是，这是可以理解的，因为他们是国营的。我不能想象，国营报纸每天报告坏消息，即使是在美国。
所以我在阅读CNN这些天听不同的声音。不过，让我们所有的人是比较客观的。中国有好东西和坏的东西，在美国相同。
我们可以讨论一切，但请不要侮辱任何国家。另外，请不要认为任何与美国不同的是坏的。
lacompacida
你想到一个人，表达个人意见，无需添加一个国营媒体的资源是客观的吗？顺便说一下，我不主张媒体是客观的，因为每个人，媒体，有权的意见，可能是多个关于同一主题的冲突。我觉得应该有新闻自由和自由，使人们可以访问exression增值业务品种的意见，不管如何ultracious和不合逻辑的，形成自己的。叫一个人，写平衡和客观的意见是疯了。
我为CNN到一个国营媒体，使我们可以表达我们的意见，而不粗鲁中断。
罗伯特·塔洛克
是。我去的时候是一个恶心的孔。
王胜俊
我真的真的很伤心，你是如此的无礼，无知。中国有今天的巨大变化，而不是你想象中的地方。中国数万成千上万的人乘坐贫困，几乎在每一个领域，并取得了显着的进展，中国也变得比以前更加开放，您可以讨论一切，包括政府和国家领导人，只要你不打算推翻的权威。
我承认，仍然有很多问题，在中国，腐败，污染......，但中国是在改进的过程中。比较天20，甚至10年前的今天，你可以找到巨大的变化。对不起，我的英语不好。
lacompacida
啊，我明白了。告诉什么人看到的是不礼貌的和无知的。每个人都应该只写小号，他们被告知，毫无疑问的。
我羡慕你挑期间进行比较的能力，比方说20年。我没有这样的奢侈。我不得不用更长的时间线在中国历史上，像至少有500年。中国确实在1949年和1979年之间有很大的暴跌。这一定是奥巴马的错。
王胜俊
不，这不是奥巴马的错，奥巴马不是出生在那个时候。这应该是杜鲁门总统的故障。
我并不是说告诉一个人的意见是不礼貌的，但侮辱是无法接受的。就像我说的，美国是一个恶心的地方，你能接受吗？
lacompacida
我很高兴，你把责任推给杜鲁门的大跃进和人民公社。我一直怀疑，毛泽东是一名CIA特工招募杜鲁门遏制中国的增长，和杜鲁门设法维护毛泽东的控制后，他奇迹般地离开办公室。杜鲁门必须是最大的控制器中央情报局曾经和毛泽东最伟大的代理人仍然在大和运作。
美国是一个恶心的地方，只是没有那么糟糕，因为其他一些地方。我相信你不认为这是一种侮辱。但是，什么可以看到，在中国，在中国媒体报道，如果它不符合你要求的脸。
王胜俊
我只是好奇，你不睡觉，在睡眠时间？
我想告诉你，你可以发布任何东西（除了政权被推翻）你看在中国的微博和论坛，如灾难，腐败，污染。没有人会抓你。通常我们不发表在报纸上的东西，因为它需要很长一段时间发布的时候，我认为这是unncessary，互联网是一个好地方，告诉的事情。
lacompacida
睡眠时间？从来没有听说过的时区和地球是圆的吗？
但我可以政权被推翻后，在中国还是在这里像我想要的。实际上，我们这里有定期的政权更迭。我们甚至进行prebicites，从国家分离。如果我想，我还可以烧我国旗。刊登在报纸上的qick在这里了。我可以公开要求我们的领导人下台，并经常这样做。我们的执政党不控制我们的军队。国家。
我从来没有说过任何关于缺乏言论自由在中国，在这个线程。但是，“无银三百两”忏悔的感谢。但是，从更可靠的来源，如CCP，从你所描述的情况有很大的不同。如果你的雇主经常检查。不想让你进入任何麻烦与通讯部或什么名字，他们在今天的英语。
lacompacida
中国有5000年的提高已经。它有一个一流的科学发展公元前1000年以前，被复制到世界各地，在公元600年的一个很好的官僚作风，一流的军队在公元1200年，伟大的教育系统前1600AD，在公元前600年，伟大的邮件系统，印刷机在1200 AD。这些成就，中国是一个世界总产量的三分之一到二分之一的世界制造上。它是如何从第48位，人均国内生产总值到1949年和2000年之间的128，开机后红，蓝灰色，丘陵河裸？中国将有更多的时间做什么，如果5000年是不够的？在世界上规模最大的军队，怎么12,000欧洲的队伍击败了中国军队在19世纪后期的那么糟糕，中国人仍然抱怨12,000欧洲人欺负的40万中国军队。中国有大炮早在明朝初年，，使用大炮打败了蒙古人非常成功。那之前，欧洲人都知道如何使用大炮。但到1860年，中国人害怕欧洲的枪。是，如何将更多的数百年，让中国提高吗？
王胜俊
美国已成为世界上最强大的国家，还等什么！你还记得被美国打败了中国和朝鲜在1950年？怎么拉登伤害美国的人吗？我说这些只是想说明历史是历史。每个国家都有过去的光荣和悲哀。就像我们每个人，你在你的整个人生的不同阶段，有成功和失败，但你总是尊重你周围的人，对不对？你永远想象不出如何继续。有一天，中国可能会比美国发展壮大。
lacompacida
有一天，中国可能会增长强于美国，还等什么。 ，有一天Samolia增长比中国强。中国可以去最大的东亚病夫，只需几百年，并在未来的十年中，它可能只是做即时重播。如果您发现侮辱，检查你对别人说。
lacompacida
我说，美国变得强大？请检查您的眼镜。有什么美国的任何一个失败都随着时间的推移不会帮助中国吗？我的观点是一次来中国是，像guving到中国来一根绳子挂本身。你可以说美国也一样，如果你喜欢。但是，美国从来没有像大而强为中国在1200AD。
REAZ mohmed
资深“D-BAG”，我想你的意思是说，“在哪里”，而不是“时”。此外，我相信你离开了必要的关键词，正确地传达语言，更不用说有力的论据。不过，我想，你的错误不是你的错，这是难以接受教育，在公立学校系统（美国），
Sunandan
1）作伪证总统
2）串行战争的赌注
3）20世纪60年代后期对黑人的歧视。
4）国家愚蠢的愚蠢，不能锡克教徒和穆斯林之间的差异。
5）不能够决定是否大麻是好还是坏。
适用于酒前不长。
如果你是愚蠢到你的手指指向一些人，放心，你们是不是从heaven.The唯一的麻烦是，他们不教你，在学校和CNN支付给针对特定国家。
愚蠢的伪君子
约翰
＃3我一个问题，因为世界其他地区往往把他们当作自己从来没有参加过类似的暴行。一个人只有把足球（国际人把它FUTBOL）的一些黑人被认为是如何在这些国家的例子来显示。很抱歉，但不高于世界其他地区的磨损。你的手一样脏。
Sunandan
也许我的手dirtier.That正是我之所以不采取行动比你圣洁（，就像LilSquirrel在她的一天从幼儿园）我不走了十几个不同的犯罪指责国家，即使我从来没有去过。 。我生气时LilSquirrels逃学和他们父母的电脑和式垃圾桶上跳。
麦克风
人谁死了，使你的神圣maholy？
Sunandan
这样做有任何意义吗？
康纳Flowbucket柯林斯
你点实际上是合法的。通常人来自美国以外的排放垃圾说，因为一个糟糕的美国，我们都是坏的。我很欣赏茜无偏
登
你这样做是正确的，sunandan！孔子说，“他手指指向别人，分三个自己（或自己）。
Matamala3
哇！您的进！
lacompacida
哪本书引用孔子的呢？如果他真的说了，俗话说一定是错误的。
herbys
我跟你大多数的事情，但对大麻的事情，你是你的无知。讨论的是大麻是否是好还是坏。大麻是一种植物，它的岩石，好和坏。它的使用也可以是好还是坏，这取决于你考虑好或坏的。被认为是，禁止它是否是好或坏的社会。由于绝大多数的国家都在等着看美国和它是如何工作，这样他们就可以使用它作为一个例子，自己做决定，我会说这是一个非常坏的例子是错误的东西，在美国。
Sunandan
我的坏。让我们改变的角度来看，是否应禁止大麻或不。很多混乱，不是吗？
罗伯特·塔洛克
哦，是的，中国是精彩的。党员败类谋杀30万美元时，他们接管了吗？真正的安全和自由。如韩国发动战争。对少数民族考生的歧视。愚蠢的傻瓜。
美国购买中国制造的垃圾，什么是错的。
REAZ mohmed
让我们来试试这个...我会接受你的意见，并简单地取代中国与美国（配件有几个微小的细节），如果参数仍然是成立的。 “哦，是[美国]是美好的。”[资本主义]败类杀人的[多]当他们接管了越南/韩国/伊拉克/阿富汗/原住民美国人真正的安全和自由。如伊拉克/阿富汗战争。对少数民族考生的歧视。愚蠢的傻瓜。“这项工作吗？我相信它。
Sunandan
Oh.No事实并非如此。你错过了两件礼物，他们放弃了越南。在阿富汗和伊拉克使用贫化铀弹药广岛和Nagasaki.Agent的橙色。
lacompacida
所有这一切都加起来也不到80万。
Sunandan
我来from.It古话叫做“当你这样做，这是love.When我做同样的，是一种相当常见的词组，它是性骚扰”。明白我的意思吗？
lacompacida
美国从来没有杀害80万美国人。中国是唯一的国家在历史上与mudering 8000万本国人民的hinor。
我高兴他们虽然。许多中国人引以为傲的毛。我与他们同在。非常高兴的是，发生了什么。
Sunandan
再次，“当你这样做，这是love.When我做同样的，它是性骚扰”。突突
Flatty
错了，他们谋杀了80万美元的总，如果你有大跃进和文革
SopheapAng
你怎么知道被杀害，30百万？你国zucking在中国的时候，它发生的呢？你指望的数量中国郭氏你zucked的，或你在实际计算死去的人呢？我只是好奇。
Sunandan
No.He CNN.The同样的方式，他们一直在阅读如何邪恶，越南，韩国和中国人一般是阅读。
有趣的事情，他们总是忘了他们犯下的暴行，在正义的名义。
lacompacida
中共提供的号码。
lacompacida
3000万？另外50万的凶手？中共承认至少有37万只的巨大飞跃。文革和其他权力和阶级斗争accountedfir另一个4000万美元。我不计数的数百万人死于1945年至1949年。日本只有17万中国人在二战死亡。这就是为什么我喜欢CCP优于日本。中国共产党是更有效的做需要做什么世界。
Sunandan
，我回答to1Courageous below.The同样适用于您罗伯特。
REAZ mohmed
诚。
艾伦·菲舍尔
大麻是许多孩子被滥用的原因 - 而孩子的妈妈或爸爸用石头打
1Courageous
80万人死了，中国人把它称为“大跃进”。解释说，雅科
Sunandan
愚笨的人类像你这样的方式证明种族清洗的美国印地安人相同的方式，你总重量TS证明投下核弹的日本。蠢人辩解下降橙剂Vietnam.I一般是愚蠢的，我并不是指责美国相同的方式（他们都不是）。您是STUP！ð的dodo鸟与你的头埋在沙。
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