登月火箭第二轮大战开始,土星5再次对决n1

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只不过苏联的帝国梦不再,当年的n1火箭中的nk-33高压补燃煤油液氧发动机被美国著名的火箭公司aerojet采用(改名叫AJ-26),它将被改头换面成450吨级的AJ-1-E6火箭,竞标美国的登月计划。

当年的土星5的燃气循环煤油/液氧发动机f1则再次被老主人Rocketdyne祭出山,组装成800吨级推力的登月火箭竞标。

http://www.flightglobal.com/news ... booster-bid-377521/

Aerojet details new SLS rocket booster bid  

By:   David Todd London

12 hours ago  

US manufacturer Aerojet informally unveiled a "brand new" rocket engine programme at the International Astronautical Congress in Naples, Italy in early October.

The new AJ-1-E6 dual-combustion chamber engine has been designed to have total trust of 1 million pounds (4448kN). It is one of the engines bidding to power the two external boosters of later versions of the US Space Launch System (SLS) heavy lift rocket, with which NASA plans to launch astronauts on missions to the Moon, asteroids and eventually Mars.

Julie Van Kleeck, vice president of Aerojet's space and launch systems confirmed that a "risk reduction" demonstration contract under the NASA SLS programme was still under negotiation. "We are negotiating for a contract involving technology risk reduction for an engine of 1 mllion pounds thrust," says Van Kleek.

Van Kleek was careful to describe the AJ-1-E6 as "brand new engine." Often, 'new' rocket engines are derivative of existing designs.

Christopher Crumbly, manager of the NASA SLS Advanced Development Office, noted that the firm will be demonstrating the engine design's resistance to combustion instability, a pressure oscillation phenomenon that has dogged several liquid fuel engine designs.

Crumbly would not comment on the progress of the negotiations but he did note that the engine had been named AJ-1-E6 engine (previously dubbed AJ-1000 by informed analysts) after the scientific notation for one million pounds (i.e. 1 to the power of six).

The new engine is to use the highly efficient oxygen-rich staged-combustion cycle similar to that of the firm's smaller AJ-26 series, which is essentially a refurbished Russian NK-33 liquid oxygen(LOx)/kerosene-fuelled rocket engine designed for the Soviet Union's N-1 moon launch vehicle. Van Kleek noted that the new engine could also be used for other US launch vehicles.

Some US politicians have urged that USA should reduced its over-reliance on Russian designed LOx/kerosene rocket technology. For example, the United Launch Alliance Atlas V, one of the US standard launch vehicles, uses a licence-produced RD-180 Russian engine.

The announcment comes after three other SLS booster 'risk reduction' demonstration contracts were signed by NASA in early October with three teams: ATK for the construction and testing of the composite stucture, nozzle and avionics of its Advanced Solid Rocket Booster, Dynetics/Rocketdyne to demonstrate turbopump and gas generator hardware for its 1.8 million ib thrust F-1A engine derivative, and Northrop Grumman for in situ/autoclaveless manufacturing techniques concerned with composite fuel tanks.
只不过苏联的帝国梦不再,当年的n1火箭中的nk-33高压补燃煤油液氧发动机被美国著名的火箭公司aerojet采用(改名叫AJ-26),它将被改头换面成450吨级的AJ-1-E6火箭,竞标美国的登月计划。

当年的土星5的燃气循环煤油/液氧发动机f1则再次被老主人Rocketdyne祭出山,组装成800吨级推力的登月火箭竞标。

http://www.flightglobal.com/news ... booster-bid-377521/

Aerojet details new SLS rocket booster bid  

By:   David Todd London

12 hours ago  

US manufacturer Aerojet informally unveiled a "brand new" rocket engine programme at the International Astronautical Congress in Naples, Italy in early October.

The new AJ-1-E6 dual-combustion chamber engine has been designed to have total trust of 1 million pounds (4448kN). It is one of the engines bidding to power the two external boosters of later versions of the US Space Launch System (SLS) heavy lift rocket, with which NASA plans to launch astronauts on missions to the Moon, asteroids and eventually Mars.

Julie Van Kleeck, vice president of Aerojet's space and launch systems confirmed that a "risk reduction" demonstration contract under the NASA SLS programme was still under negotiation. "We are negotiating for a contract involving technology risk reduction for an engine of 1 mllion pounds thrust," says Van Kleek.

Van Kleek was careful to describe the AJ-1-E6 as "brand new engine." Often, 'new' rocket engines are derivative of existing designs.

Christopher Crumbly, manager of the NASA SLS Advanced Development Office, noted that the firm will be demonstrating the engine design's resistance to combustion instability, a pressure oscillation phenomenon that has dogged several liquid fuel engine designs.

Crumbly would not comment on the progress of the negotiations but he did note that the engine had been named AJ-1-E6 engine (previously dubbed AJ-1000 by informed analysts) after the scientific notation for one million pounds (i.e. 1 to the power of six).

The new engine is to use the highly efficient oxygen-rich staged-combustion cycle similar to that of the firm's smaller AJ-26 series, which is essentially a refurbished Russian NK-33 liquid oxygen(LOx)/kerosene-fuelled rocket engine designed for the Soviet Union's N-1 moon launch vehicle. Van Kleek noted that the new engine could also be used for other US launch vehicles.

Some US politicians have urged that USA should reduced its over-reliance on Russian designed LOx/kerosene rocket technology. For example, the United Launch Alliance Atlas V, one of the US standard launch vehicles, uses a licence-produced RD-180 Russian engine.

The announcment comes after three other SLS booster 'risk reduction' demonstration contracts were signed by NASA in early October with three teams: ATK for the construction and testing of the composite stucture, nozzle and avionics of its Advanced Solid Rocket Booster, Dynetics/Rocketdyne to demonstrate turbopump and gas generator hardware for its 1.8 million ib thrust F-1A engine derivative, and Northrop Grumman for in situ/autoclaveless manufacturing techniques concerned with composite fuel tanks.
真的假的???
看得我云里雾里的
真的假的???
都是40多年前的老古董了
还有兔子家的长征9呢?!!!!!!!!!
的确是这么回事情。NASA的SLS火箭芯级用氢氧发动机(可能是RS-25),助推器第一阶段用固体火箭,第二阶段改用液氧煤油助推器,很可能是F1和NK-33中的一种
哈哈,这下那些说土星五图纸消失,美国人造不出来的人可以闭嘴了。
土星五图纸不是沒了~雜誌說是收藏在存檔用的微膠卷(片)內~
ph3203485 发表于 2012-10-11 23:33
都是40多年前的老古董了
问题是中国现在都还远远达不到40多年前的老古董的技术水平
YF-330 发表于 2012-10-12 08:58
的确是这么回事情。NASA的SLS火箭芯级用氢氧发动机(可能是RS-25),助推器第一阶段用固体火箭,第二阶段改用 ...
第二阶段助推器竞标,目前NASA授予合同的两个方案是ATK的先进固推和Denetics的F-1A液推,Aerojet的目前还只是自带干粮的建议,NASA没给钱
越来越像土星5由三级改二级半了。
lsquirrel 发表于 2012-10-12 11:27
第二阶段助推器竞标,目前NASA授予合同的两个方案是ATK的先进固推和Denetics的F-1A液推,Aerojet的目前还 ...
aerojet研究NK-33都自带干粮20多年了,各种方案不胜枚举,我在《太阳神的战车》里写得挺清楚的
YF-330 发表于 2012-10-12 08:58
的确是这么回事情。NASA的SLS火箭芯级用氢氧发动机(可能是RS-25),助推器第一阶段用固体火箭,第二阶段改用 ...
错了,它们都是用于第一级的助推火箭,不是第二级的助推火箭。

只不过苏联的当年的n1火箭中的nk-33高压补燃煤油液氧发动机比冲是340秒,美国土星5的燃气循环煤油/液氧发动机f1只有250秒,美国人显然对aerojet能否山寨出nk-33高压补燃煤油液氧发动机没有信心,只能在两个250中选一个。

ddeell72 发表于 2012-10-12 00:05
还有兔子家的长征9呢?!!!!!!!!!
兔子才不上当呢!  任何竞赛性装备,我兔都不会参加。我兔只会聪明地按照经济发展节奏在20年内依次推出330吨单室、660吨双室、1300吨四室发动机!
dark_knight 发表于 2012-10-12 13:11
aerojet研究NK-33都自带干粮20多年了,各种方案不胜枚举,我在《太阳神的战车》里写得挺清楚的
从90年代就开始研究NK33系列不假,不过NASA刚公布的助推器合同没他的份。
Aerojet现在提出这个有些奇怪,当初一群人觉得AJ-26改的东西回去竞标,可是他没正式公开方案。现在NASA合同下来了,Rocketdyne被GenCorp收购了,Aerojet又跳出来干嘛?
Aerojet居于绝对劣势啊
导弹武库核潜艇 发表于 2012-10-12 15:41
Aerojet居于绝对劣势啊
GenCorp可不是劣势,现在Aerojet和Rocketdyne都是它的,只要打倒ATK就行
想跟中国玩星球大战?别到时候自己把自己玩死。
rongzhili.au 发表于 2012-10-12 13:59
错了,它们都是用于第一级的助推火箭,不是第二级的助推火箭。

只不过苏联的当年的n1火箭中的nk-33高压 ...
我的第一阶段第二阶段说的是研制时间上的阶段,可以说第二阶段的火箭是第一阶段火箭的改进版。而并非火箭的第一级第二级
YF-330 发表于 2012-10-13 02:04
我的第一阶段第二阶段说的是研制时间上的阶段,可以说第二阶段的火箭是第一阶段火箭的改进版。而并非火箭 ...
错了,sls现在是预研阶段,谈不上啥是第一阶段火箭,啥是第二阶段火箭。
super_hero 发表于 2012-10-12 17:26
想跟中国玩星球大战?别到时候自己把自己玩死。
此话怎讲???
rongzhili.au 发表于 2012-10-13 08:42
错了,sls现在是预研阶段,谈不上啥是第一阶段火箭,啥是第二阶段火箭。
幻灯片上的东西么,发展计划而已
rongzhili.au 发表于 2012-10-12 13:59
错了,它们都是用于第一级的助推火箭,不是第二级的助推火箭。

只不过苏联的当年的n1火箭中的nk-33高压 ...
NK-33比冲有340秒???就算是真空比冲也没那么大啊,你是拿那一家子中高空版的真空推力算的吧
把一个150吨级的发动机改成450吨级的……多室并联还是单纯增肥?