香格里拉论坛:不好啦,U圈又给堵掉一个洞,米帝要和缅 ...

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米帝针对土鳖精心打造的U型包围圈目前还有两个漏洞,就是缅甸和小巴,这使米帝一直纠结不已。小巴这个洞米帝通过阿富汗勉强能堵上半个,剩下的缅甸这个洞是土鳖苦心经营了六十多年的有去印度洋入海口的老根据地,缅甸北方以前还有果敢等亲鳖政权,比较难弄。但经过多年的步步为营的努力,现在缅甸这个洞洞终于要被米帝给堵上了。米帝国防部长帕内塔今天在新加坡举行的香格里拉安全论坛上宣布不但要派六艘航母来太平洋,而且还要和缅甸搞军事合作:

http://news.yahoo.com/panetta-open-military-relations-myanmar-054132754.html

Panetta open to military relations with Myanmar
Associated PressBy LOLITA C. BALDOR | Associated Press – 7 hrs ago

    U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, right, and Australia's Defense Minister Stephen Smith, left, attend the opening session of the IISS Shangri-la Security Summit in Singapore on Friday June 1, 2012. (AP Photo/Wong Maye-E)


SINGAPORE (AP) — Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told Asian leaders Saturday that the U.S. is open to forging better military ties with Myanmar, if political and human rights reforms there continue.

His comments to a defense conference here reflected new efforts by the Obama administration to ease sanctions on the Asian nation, which is also known as Burma, as it moves to implement democratic reforms.

Assuming Myanmar is able to implement reforms and continue efforts to open up its political system, the Pentagon would be willing to have discussions about how the two nations can improve their military relationship, Panetta said.

"In dealing with countries of the Asia-Pacific region, this is not a Cold War situation where the U.S. barges in, builds permanent bases and tries to establish a power base in this region," Panetta said, responding to a question after his speech here at the Shangri-La Dialogue, a prominent defense conference.

In the world today, he said, the U.S. has to engage with other countries to help them build their own military capabilities so they can defend themselves.

"We will encourage that kind of relationship with ever nation that we deal with in this region, including Myanmar," Panetta said.

A senior defense official traveling with Panetta said the secretary expects the government of Burma to continue on the path of reform and promotion of human rights, and once it shows progress then stronger military ties could be possible.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity to reflect internal discussions.

Myanmar is emerging from decades of authoritarian rule and diplomatic isolation. Last month, President Barack Obama eased an investment ban on Myanmar, and named the first U.S ambassador to the country in 22 years.

Human rights activists, however, criticized the move, saying it was too soon to reward the country since hundreds of political prisoners are still being held there.

Panetta's speech was designed to promote America's new effort to focus more attention on the Asia-Pacific region, both militarily and diplomatically.



米帝针对土鳖精心打造的U型包围圈目前还有两个漏洞,就是缅甸和小巴,这使米帝一直纠结不已。小巴这个洞米帝通过阿富汗勉强能堵上半个,剩下的缅甸这个洞是土鳖苦心经营了六十多年的有去印度洋入海口的老根据地,缅甸北方以前还有果敢等亲鳖政权,比较难弄。但经过多年的步步为营的努力,现在缅甸这个洞洞终于要被米帝给堵上了。米帝国防部长帕内塔今天在新加坡举行的香格里拉安全论坛上宣布不但要派六艘航母来太平洋,而且还要和缅甸搞军事合作:

http://news.yahoo.com/panetta-open-military-relations-myanmar-054132754.html

Panetta open to military relations with Myanmar
Associated PressBy LOLITA C. BALDOR | Associated Press – 7 hrs ago

    U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, right, and Australia's Defense Minister Stephen Smith, left, attend the opening session of the IISS Shangri-la Security Summit in Singapore on Friday June 1, 2012. (AP Photo/Wong Maye-E)


SINGAPORE (AP) — Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told Asian leaders Saturday that the U.S. is open to forging better military ties with Myanmar, if political and human rights reforms there continue.

His comments to a defense conference here reflected new efforts by the Obama administration to ease sanctions on the Asian nation, which is also known as Burma, as it moves to implement democratic reforms.

Assuming Myanmar is able to implement reforms and continue efforts to open up its political system, the Pentagon would be willing to have discussions about how the two nations can improve their military relationship, Panetta said.

"In dealing with countries of the Asia-Pacific region, this is not a Cold War situation where the U.S. barges in, builds permanent bases and tries to establish a power base in this region," Panetta said, responding to a question after his speech here at the Shangri-La Dialogue, a prominent defense conference.

In the world today, he said, the U.S. has to engage with other countries to help them build their own military capabilities so they can defend themselves.

"We will encourage that kind of relationship with ever nation that we deal with in this region, including Myanmar," Panetta said.

A senior defense official traveling with Panetta said the secretary expects the government of Burma to continue on the path of reform and promotion of human rights, and once it shows progress then stronger military ties could be possible.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity to reflect internal discussions.

Myanmar is emerging from decades of authoritarian rule and diplomatic isolation. Last month, President Barack Obama eased an investment ban on Myanmar, and named the first U.S ambassador to the country in 22 years.

Human rights activists, however, criticized the move, saying it was too soon to reward the country since hundreds of political prisoners are still being held there.

Panetta's speech was designed to promote America's new effort to focus more attention on the Asia-Pacific region, both militarily and diplomatically.

英语渣水平,看不懂。

但缅甸的领导人但凡有点脑子就不会跟着MD乱来。
昂山素鸡,那是个什么来路。
这些小国果然在大国之间的博弈中左右逢源,迟早有一天他们会为那点利益付出血的代价。
素鸡上台,缅甸倒向西方是必然的。
素鸡要是愚蠢到这种程度就活不到今天。
真这么做的话缅北的特区可以唱翻身农奴做主人了
micshang 发表于 2012-6-2 22:41
素鸡上台,缅甸倒向西方是必然的。
你觉得素鸡能上台么? 你真当军政府是傻X? 或者你无视掉佤邦 禅邦等等势力了 搞笑?
我一直不觉得中国周围的那些小国家能包围中国。可能也就日本有些实力,其他的只能算是大象脚边的蚂蚁,围不住的
美国佬,请放马过来吧!我兔也想玩次真的。


唉,土鳖自从周恩来时代就悄悄经营了六十年的老根据地就这样垮了,先是桥头堡果敢先崩盘,然后是全线溃退。还有人记得那个摇头首相莫乃翁吗?

唉,土鳖自从周恩来时代就悄悄经营了六十年的老根据地就这样垮了,先是桥头堡果敢先崩盘,然后是全线溃退。还有人记得那个摇头首相莫乃翁吗?
不说政治,单说经济,缅甸敢么?
1.这个世界谁搞基础建设最牛13,是兔子。想吃饱饭,想发展,得有铁路,公路,电站,这些得靠兔子。
2.怎么发展工业,农业,产品卖给谁?兔子有13亿人口。
就这两点,缅甸就得妥妥的
楼主再去读一遍原文,帕内塔说的是现在不是冷战,不是寻求建立本地区的权力基础
而他在这之间还加上了一个限定,就是要求缅甸军政府表现出更加的改革态度,可以加强和缅甸之间的军事交往和交易,也就是和缅甸进行军火交易
而实际上美国强制的条件是一厢情愿,军政府是不会回应的。
而昂山素季现在在泰国,就受到吴登盛军政府一系的反对,也表现了军政府的态度,就是高度的厌恶和限制。
bshlive123 发表于 2012-6-2 22:50
不说政治,单说经济,缅甸敢么?
1.这个世界谁搞基础建设最牛13,是兔子。想吃饱饭,想发展,得有铁路,公 ...
你这说法对南棒也适用。
开玩笑....

无论缅甸谁上台这样干,立马整个缅甸就四分五裂了
不说政治,单说经济,缅甸敢么? 1.这个世界谁搞基础建设最牛13,是兔子。想吃饱饭,想发展,得有铁路,公 ...
缅甸这种国家要有这个思路早发展起来了。这种国家搞建设拥永远是次要的,主要的是权贵斗来斗去。
莫谈国事 发表于 2012-6-2 22:53
你这说法对南棒也适用。
兔子目前还没搞定产业升级,基情还可以保持一段。等12.5计划完,估摸着就该棒子站队了
建立军事基地不是说说就有的,而缅甸现在的军火贸易对象是中国,从中国不久前的出售舰艇和坦克就知道了,而缅甸还有一个合作伙伴就是朝鲜。
对于美国来说,希望和缅甸进行军火交易的可能性和期盼程度比建立军事基地的可能性和期盼程度要高多了。
有些人就是滑稽,果敢不顾忌种植鸦片,打掉他对于缅北几个特区以及中缅都有好处。
而为什么军政府这次全力打击克钦独立军不打击掸邦?
连现在是什么情况和局面都不知道,还什么担心军政府打击掸邦,真是一群喜欢脑补的人。
simao19822003 发表于 2012-6-2 22:54
缅甸这种国家要有这个思路早发展起来了。这种国家搞建设拥永远是次要的,主要的是权贵斗来斗去。
有些武断!素鸡这次能够出来,其实也是缅甸尝试改革的一次试探。作为兔子,我认为还是要适当的保护这种积极性。
  毕竟,我们了要完成产业升级,一些产业需要转移,怎么选,缅甸也比猴子好的多,这是战略的需求。同时,西南能源通道也离不开一个稳定的缅甸。其三,具有一定实力的缅甸,对渗透东巴限制阿三也是有利的。
JCFERRET 发表于 2012-6-2 22:39
昂山素鸡,那是个什么来路。
这鸡能活到现在也从侧面看出缅军政府的骑墙心理和朝鲜一样:要命要钱时就找你救,过后就冷脸........我们的对外政策问题已经非常严重了,对这些贴身国家要逐步实行绝对控制,参照美国对日本和韩国.
bshlive123 发表于 2012-6-2 22:55
兔子目前还没搞定产业升级,基情还可以保持一段。等12.5计划完,估摸着就该棒子站队了
是啊,北棒也要重新站队了。
http://www.guancha.cn/html2/49646/2012/06/02/76956.shtml
就这么堵上也太简单了。。。不过话说果敢被军政府堵上,倒是个挺可惜的事
莫谈国事 发表于 2012-6-2 23:02
是啊,北棒也要重新站队了。
北棒有难度啊!现在鹅毛急吼吼的要经济东进,还说什么要把海参威发展成经济首都,北棒还是有些小想法的。就看三儿脑瓜灵光不灵光了。
莫谈国事 发表于 2012-6-2 23:02
是啊,北棒也要重新站队了。
估计十三五吧。。十二五还是差点。。。君子报仇十年不晚。。二十年河东,二十年河西,对这句话,我感触颇深。。兔子早晚是河西、、、、
只有胡萝卜没有大棒的外交就是这个结果,让人又敬又怕,就这么难吗
缅甸是俺兔内定的石油大通道,昂山素季走的太远最终只能被废掉的,美帝在缅甸也就靠这老女人蹦跶
bshlive123 发表于 2012-6-2 22:50
不说政治,单说经济,缅甸敢么?
1.这个世界谁搞基础建设最牛13,是兔子。想吃饱饭,想发展,得有铁路,公 ...
素鸡说过,他们那现在需要的不是温饱,而是冥煮和尸油
扯淡的昂山素季的尴尬处境完全是因为昂山素季是缅甸开国昂山将军的女儿,而缅甸军政府就是昂山将军的后衍伸,虽然缅甸军政府极度讨厌昂山素季,但是因为昂山素季是昂山将军的女儿,在缅甸有着民望,不顾局面的干掉昂山素季这是军政府不会做的,所以才会有昂山素季被软禁而从来没想到杀掉。
大不了肢解缅甸
J2001NB 发表于 2012-6-2 23:01
这鸡能活到现在也从侧面看出缅军政府的骑墙心理和朝鲜一样:要命要钱时就找你救,过后就冷脸........我们的 ...
缅甸这个选择是完全正常的。
     中 国目前还是兔子,未来虽然很明媚,但毕竟还是有些坎坎坷坷的。在还存在风险情况下,要求人家把凳子坐实在,显然是不合理的,有些苛求了。关键还是要看我们自己,等啥时候褪了兔子皮,真的变成山中大王,我相信,缅甸、棒子甚至是霓虹都会老老实实的找准自己的位置的。
浪将 发表于 2012-6-2 23:07
素鸡说过,他们那现在需要的不是温饱,而是冥煮和尸油
  杯脆的浪漫主义者。做个花瓶,帮缅甸军政府做个花瓶给西方看看就罢了。
浪将 发表于 2012-6-2 23:07
素鸡说过,他们那现在需要的不是温饱,而是冥煮和尸油

缅甸其实富得流油,现在西方跨国企业已经蜂拥而至,仰光的大酒店都被这些戴着领带的企业高管给包了。
美军还有钱啊这么做么?
军政府还没蠢到这地步,一旦素鸡掌握权力,那是要清算军政府,关了人家20年,民主之后杀全家可不是说说的。

现在让素鸡蹦跶无非是为了解除制裁,不会让素鸡掌握权力的。素鸡乱来的话一样再关个10年。
bshlive123 发表于 2012-6-2 23:01
有些武断!素鸡这次能够出来,其实也是缅甸尝试改革的一次试探。作为兔子,我认为还是要适当的保护这种积 ...
素鸡出不出来跟缅甸改革没因果关系。素鸡出来是缅甸想摆脱兔子的先兆。可惜的是这女人出来之后在米帝支持下的发展大大超过了缅甸的预期,跟中国先前警告过的一致。所以么,才对克钦这个米帝的钉子下狠手
MD的这些话,就当局座的话,听听也就算了
叫嚷着重返亚太,看看狒狒的结局就知道了
包围兔子,放马过来吧
莫谈国事 发表于 2012-6-2 23:11
缅甸其实富得流油,现在西方跨国企业已经蜂拥而至,仰光的大酒店都被这些戴着领带的企业高管给包了。
这就是素鸡的价值。说白了,要搁以前,西方说不得还得继续摆摆架子,拿拿身段,甚至还得要个投名状神马的,现在揭不开锅了,缅甸稍微开个缝,一个个就急赤白脸的冲进来准备捞钱老。