下届应该是制造业大发展的时候了吧？

不解决好政改（分蛋糕）问题，总理说要小心文革。

制造业利润谈不上“巨大”，就连高端制造业也谈不上“巨大”。

某人就是既得利益的代表者，忽悠谁呢，一句政改，呵呵，其心可诛....

印钞业也许会大发展{:soso_e141:}

撞墙 发表于 2012-3-14 15:00
不解决好政改（分蛋糕）问题，总理说要小心文革。
您能分到多少？反正我分不着，爱文革不文革:D

Mcnatsumi 发表于 2012-3-14 15:28
制造业利润谈不上“巨大”，就连高端制造业也谈不上“巨大”。
萍果算什么行业？

cutter 发表于 2012-3-14 15:36
萍果算什么行业？
苹果算IT业，IT算第三产业

相国这个不代表政府，明显受刺激鸟，与某方撕破脸．您就不要过分解读了．

想想05年徐女婿买油

再看看温公子今年出到那掌事就明白了

Mcnatsumi 发表于 2012-3-14 16:11
苹果算IT业，IT算第三产业
感情华为，思科都是第三产业啊。

;P

cutter 发表于 2012-3-14 18:03
感情华为，思科都是第三产业啊。

华为，苹果，思科难道不是IT业？IT业难道不是三产？
苹果再怎么也不是制造业，富士康是，现在看看就明白了，富士康和苹果谁的利润“巨大”？

中国已经是制造业大国了，还要怎么发展。记得乔布斯死了之后，总理说过中国需要他这样的人物吗？

中国已经是制造业大国了，还要怎么发展。记得乔布斯死了之后，总理说过中国需要他这样的人物吗？

制造业再扩张就过头了。

即使是风能、太阳能等新兴产业，政府工作报告也都明确说了，要限制风能、太阳能等产业盲目扩张。

效益上不去，一片红海，倒头来白忙活。

重要的是调结构。

Mcnatsumi 发表于 2012-3-14 16:11
苹果算IT业，IT算第三产业
您先整明白第三产业的概念再说吧;P

软件业属于第三产业。

设计、创意、知识产权等等都属于第三产业。

agentli 发表于 2012-3-14 18:56
您先整明白第三产业的概念再说吧

软件业属于第三产业。

设计、创意、知识产权等等都属于第三产业。

agentli 发表于 2012-3-14 18:56
您先整明白第三产业的概念再说吧
我才疏学浅，以前了解到的情况就是：IT属于第三产业。

既然你这么有料，麻烦你给我科普科普什么事第三产业，IT业是不是第三产业

中低端制造业已经独霸全球了，还发展什么，要高端制造业谈何容易

  The tertiary sector of the economy (also known as the service sector or the service industry) is one of the three economic sectors, the others being the secondary sector (approximately the same as manufacturing) and the primary sector (agriculture, fishing, and extraction such as mining).

The service sector consists of the "soft" parts of the economy, i.e. activities where people offer their knowledge and time to improve productivity, performance, potential, and sustainability. The basic characteristic of this sector is the production of services instead of end products. Services (also known as "intangible goods") include attention, advice, experience, and discussion. The production of information is generally also regarded as a service, but some economists now attribute it to a fourth sector, the quaternary sector.

The tertiary sector of industry involves the provision of services to other businesses as well as final consumers. Services may involve the transport, distribution and sale of goods from producer to a consumer, as may happen in wholesaling and retailing, or may involve the provision of a service, such as in pest control or entertainment. The goods may be transformed in the process of providing the service, as happens in the restaurant industry. However, the focus is on people interacting with people and serving the customer rather than transforming physical goods.

For the last 30 years, there has been a substantial shift from the primary and secondary sectors to the tertiary sector in industrialised countries. This shift is called tertiarisation.[1] The tertiary sector is now the largest sector of the economy in the Western world, and is also the fastest-growing sector.
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Examples of service sector employment include:

    Government
    Healthcare/hospitals
    Public health
    Waste disposal
    Education
    Banking
    Insurance
    Financial services
    Legal services
    Consulting
    News medias
    Casinos
    Tourism
    Retail sales
    Franchising
    Real estate

Mcnatsumi 发表于 2012-3-14 18:59
我才疏学浅，以前了解到的情况就是：IT属于第三产业。

既然你这么有料，麻烦你给我科普科普什么事第三 ...

  The tertiary sector of the economy (also known as the service sector or the service industry) is one of the three economic sectors, the others being the secondary sector (approximately the same as manufacturing) and the primary sector (agriculture, fishing, and extraction such as mining).

The service sector consists of the "soft" parts of the economy, i.e. activities where people offer their knowledge and time to improve productivity, performance, potential, and sustainability. The basic characteristic of this sector is the production of services instead of end products. Services (also known as "intangible goods") include attention, advice, experience, and discussion. The production of information is generally also regarded as a service, but some economists now attribute it to a fourth sector, the quaternary sector.

The tertiary sector of industry involves the provision of services to other businesses as well as final consumers. Services may involve the transport, distribution and sale of goods from producer to a consumer, as may happen in wholesaling and retailing, or may involve the provision of a service, such as in pest control or entertainment. The goods may be transformed in the process of providing the service, as happens in the restaurant industry. However, the focus is on people interacting with people and serving the customer rather than transforming physical goods.

For the last 30 years, there has been a substantial shift from the primary and secondary sectors to the tertiary sector in industrialised countries. This shift is called tertiarisation.[1] The tertiary sector is now the largest sector of the economy in the Western world, and is also the fastest-growing sector.
Contents


[edit] Examples

Examples of service sector employment include:

    Government
    Healthcare/hospitals
    Public health
    Waste disposal
    Education
    Banking
    Insurance
    Financial services
    Legal services
    Consulting
    News medias
    Casinos
    Tourism
    Retail sales
    Franchising
    Real estate

agentli 发表于 2012-3-14 19:02
The tertiary sector of the economy (also known as the service sector or the service industry)  ...
你估计还没搞清楚，为什么我们有“工业和信息化部”，而不用“工业部”统称之。

rolltide 发表于 2012-3-14 19:07
你估计还没搞清楚，为什么我们有“工业和信息化部”，而不用“工业部”统称之。
信息化跟第三产业有什么关系，第三产业核心是“服务” ，难不成半导体行业都成三产了？

软件业是第三产业，技术服务业也是，设计业也是。

很多IT公司，都是无工厂公司，即使是半导体行业，很多也是仅进行设计或者授权，或者仅提供解决方案等等，无晶圆厂。

服务支撑与制造相分离，是现代产业结构的一个普遍特点。

agentli 发表于 2012-3-14 19:10
信息化跟第三产业有什么关系，第三产业核心是“服务” ，难不成半导体行业都成三产了？

软件业是第三产业，技术服务业也是，设计业也是。

很多IT公司，都是无工厂公司，即使是半导体行业，很多也是仅进行设计或者授权，或者仅提供解决方案等等，无晶圆厂。

服务支撑与制造相分离，是现代产业结构的一个普遍特点。

agentli 发表于 2012-3-14 19:02
The tertiary sector of the economy (also known as the service sector or the service industry)  ...
你给的这段话里面哪句说了IT业是二产或者制造业？

很多时候，这些新兴产业，或者剥离出来的产业，被归入所谓“现代服务业”。

极端一点讲，如果人类的社会发展到生产完全自动化、专门化，并剥离出去，那么，几乎所有的劳动力都将从事包括研发、技术支撑等等各种专门服务业。

rolltide 发表于 2012-3-14 19:11
软件业是第三产业，技术服务业也是，设计业也是。

很多IT公司，都是无工厂公司，即使是半导体行业， ...

很多时候，这些新兴产业，或者剥离出来的产业，被归入所谓“现代服务业”。

极端一点讲，如果人类的社会发展到生产完全自动化、专门化，并剥离出去，那么，几乎所有的劳动力都将从事包括研发、技术支撑等等各种专门服务业。

The production of information is generally also regarded as a service, but some economists now attribute it to a fourth sector, the quaternary sector.

IT已经重新归到第四产业了？

不管怎么说，产业结构调整是必须也是急需的，关键是怎么调，往那个方向调，这才是头痛的问题。

Foxfound1993 发表于 2012-3-14 19:41
不管怎么说，产业结构调整是必须也是急需的，关键是怎么调，往那个方向调，这才是头痛的问题。
往哪个方向调，这个不头疼吧。

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美国的苹果算三产，中国的富士康算制造业，着有什么好争得？

苹果算IT业，IT算第三产业
it是第三产业？

insecat 发表于 2012-3-14 19:44
往哪个方向调，这个不头疼吧。
这个可说不好，说不定就触动了某些人的利益，还是谨慎点好啊。

it是第三产业？
那IT算第几产业

Mcnatsumi 发表于 2012-3-15 09:20
那IT算第几产业
三个产业是按出现的顺序来定的，人类最早只有农牧猎业，所以手工业出现后农业第一产业，工业第二产业，第一产业和第二产业都有具体的产品，服务业出现后，服务业是第三产业，第三产业的特点是没有实体的产品。

三个产业是按出现的顺序来定的，人类最早只有农牧猎业，所以手工业出现后农业第一产业，工业第二产业，第 ...
你还是没告诉我IT是第几产业，上面有人提到可以归到第四产业，但这样的划分法也是少数，就我所知，大多数情况下还是分到三产。

Mcnatsumi 发表于 2012-3-15 11:34
你还是没告诉我IT是第几产业，上面有人提到可以归到第四产业，但这样的划分法也是少数，就我所知，大多数 ...
说的很明白了，除非你觉得你手里的那个苹果大砖头是虚幻的，你才可以把苹果归类到第三产业。

不是。商业领域。很可能会大发展。但是制造业也必须发展。

IT业是个很大的概念，里面既有二产部门，也有三产部门。

IT属于第3产业这个有什么好争的，第3产业的提法是信息革命后才出来的概念。

说的很明白了，除非你觉得你手里的那个苹果大砖头是虚幻的，你才可以把苹果归类到第三产业。
苹果的大砖头是富士康"制造"的，所以富士康是制造业，苹果不属制造业，我上面也是这么说的。
既然你坚持it属于第二产业，属于制造业我也不多说什么

IT业是个很大的概念，里面既有二产部门，也有三产部门。
大众和通用旗下似乎也有金融服务部门，但是一般分类的时候，大众和通用还是属于汽车制造业，不是吗