美联社一则中国与盖茨旗下公司合作快增殖反应堆的消息点 ...

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翻译点评论啊!
楼主所言极是,中美的矛盾根本不在于意识形态,而在于国家利益的冲突,国内的JY大部分是傻子,小部分是装傻。
意识形态本来就不是分歧的重点,否则当年怎么会有社会主义中国和资本主义美国联合起来对付社会主义苏联的事情呢,用元首的话来说,生存空间才是争夺重点,老外们都明白这一点,难道中国人就不明白?也就JY不明白吧。
p大的事情...
gmgm201 发表于 2011-12-8 17:25
翻译点评论啊!
哥,7万多条,眼睛都看花了,翻译不过来啊
suberwang 发表于 2011-12-8 17:26
楼主所言极是,中美的矛盾根本不在于意识形态,而在于国家利益的冲突,国内的JY大部分是傻子,小部分是装傻 ...
装傻那部分人就是想趁变天捞点利益,其心可诛。

美国富人都是亲华的。。。


其实超大有多少精英和带路党?
大多都属于理性批判的
只是现在风气越来越相背
有些人非要无事生非
找不自在去凯迪那些地方看台湾人秀下限
然后一个转身
跑来超大来大high精英带路党什么的
我还是要说
哪里的帖子哪里回
不要再哭错坟头了

现在的那些问题
更多的是老有些人把超大当垃圾桶所产生的

其实超大有多少精英和带路党?
大多都属于理性批判的
只是现在风气越来越相背
有些人非要无事生非
找不自在去凯迪那些地方看台湾人秀下限
然后一个转身
跑来超大来大high精英带路党什么的
我还是要说
哪里的帖子哪里回
不要再哭错坟头了

现在的那些问题
更多的是老有些人把超大当垃圾桶所产生的
这就对了,把一切资本家都绑在中国战车上
制裁中国?那就是打自己脸
貌似盖茨和中国政府关系很好啊。。。
哥,7万多条,眼睛都看花了,翻译不过来啊
翻一些有代表性的,像脑残的,赞成的,反对的,诅咒盖茨的,诅咒中国的,搞笑的,主要翻译那些能体现你发帖意思的,你这样三言两语一总结还怎么教育群众,现在的群众都不喜欢被明着教育,喜欢发现真理,你把评论展现出来,群众的眼睛是雪亮的嘛!呵呵
生存空间的竞争,高筑墙,广积粮,等到决战!
盖茨的反应堆像windows一样不安全……
说真的LZ炸锅这个词儿很铁血很种花啊。。。
不过7万多评论。。。也当得起这个词儿了。。。
天朝的鹰 发表于 2011-12-8 17:32
装傻那部分人就是想趁变天捞点利益,其心可诛。
不少人还是既得利益者,想利用变天之机将黑色财产洗白,然后再多捞一把。
《外交政策》有一篇"民族主義一統天下" 斯蒂芬·沃尔特教授写的。
大意相同,lz有兴趣的话不妨看看。
我来试着翻译几句:

China is NOT our friend! Wake up people..
中国不是我们的朋友,醒醒啊同胞们!(喂,你们不是一直醒着么,叫毛线啊)

Should I learn Mandarin, or Cantonese first?
我应该学习普通话或广东话了吗?(MD的BKC兼讽刺党)

China can actually afford a reactor unlike the US.
中国能真正负担得起反应堆,不像我们霉蒂。(此人认为MD已然穷疯)

Gives a whole new meaning to the "Blue Screen Of Death".
此反应堆将给蓝屏死机一个全新的定义。(挺幽默的)

believe it was Cal Coolidge who said that "... the business of America is business....."
In other words, those of us who weren't rich and powerful need not apply... Just shut your mouth and do what you're told.
我相信这就是Cal Coolidge 说的“生意就是生意”,换句话说,对我们这些没有小钱钱也没有小肌肉的人来说,这不关我们的事,只要闭上嘴,别人让我们做什么就做什么得了(这算什么党

我看日本是不可能再建反应堆了   毛子和阿三也不太具备条件   多半会建在中国吧核反应堆也是把双刃剑    可以捞取点技术  但是也成了 美国的试验小白鼠这个   
美国是个移民国家,连个主体民族都没有,谈何民族矛盾……两国之间的矛盾明里说就是两国普通民众的利益矛盾,往深了说就是两国的资本家以及当权者的利益矛盾……
kacchan 发表于 2011-12-8 17:36
其实超大有多少精英和带路党?
大多都属于理性批判的
只是现在风气越来越相背
呆丸猪秀下限难道不是事实???
再翻点儿:

China? An American billionaire spending his money in China instead of his own country. This country is doomed!
中国?好吧,一个美丽奸的亿万富翁不在他自己国家投资,却要到中国去投资。这美丽奸气数已尽了!(愤青,纯的)

any American that takes their business overseas should be tried and executed for treason!!!!
任何在海外投资的美国人都该以叛国罪的名义被审判并判刑!(愤青,更纯的)

Yet another project and more jobs for China...
好吧中国又得到了一个新项目和更多的工作机会……(伤心之情溢于言表)

Why can't the "great American patriot," Bill Gates, do this here? Obama imposed regulations? Anti-nuclear energy kooks? Too expensive because of corrupt unions? All I know, it's wrong, wrong, wrong!
为什么伟大的爱国者比尔盖茨先生不在美国做这事儿? 是奥巴马强行禁止?还是被反核能运动吓到了?难道是因为联邦太腐败因此花销太大?我只知道这是错误的决定,错的错的错的泥煤啊错的!
(有个针对这条评论的回复很有意思,我翻一下):
I'm willing to bet it's just that China is willing to put up that money. They NEED nuclear power - we have a lot of resources in the US that can serve as backups, even if they're expensive or messy, but China has no such option, so it's a lot more important.
我打赌不是你说的原因,应该只是中国愿意投资这个项目吧。他们需要核能——他们不像我们拥有很多后备能源可以作为选择,尽管这些后备能源或许很贵或者很麻烦,不过有的选总比没的选好,因此对中国来说,核能更重要。
《美国能源创新背后的中国之手》
http://cn.wsj.com/gb/20111207/bch072508.asp?source=mostpopular

华尔街日报的一片文章基本上解释了为什么比尔盖茨同TB合作,而不在美国投资。
羡慕嫉妒恨
反正自己嫌累,把自己开的帖子的翻译贴到这里算了
Why would he deal with the country that pirates 90% of the stolen software worldwide? Not to mention other forms of intellectual property theft, counterfeiting, espionage, cyberwarfare, and just pretty much being our enemy.
他为什么要与有全世界90%的盗版软件的国家合作?且不说其他形式的知识产权盗窃,伪造,间谍,网络战,只是几乎是我们的敌人
China? An American billionaire spending his money in China instead of his own country. This country is doomed!.
中国?美国亿万富翁把他的钱花在中国,而不是他自己的国家。这个国家是注定悲剧的!
What about doing it in the U.S. Bill ? You have multi-billions to support this..
把钱花在美国又如何呢,比尔?你有数十亿美元来支持这些
Chinese kids were working on their PhD's while a generation of round-eyes played video games.
中国孩子在为博士工作而大量的美国近视佬在玩视频游戏
You go bill...the us. Gov isnt interested in saving money or our lives..there interested in "there" bottom line .

MD一点儿都不知道省钱。也不关心民计民生。他们只对自身利益感兴趣。
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Well Big Tim your lack of patriotism is on par with that of Bill Gates. How can you say that while you enjoy freedom in the US, you drive on roads funded by your fellow citizens, use water that was made available by projects funded by your fellow citizens....The US government has serious problems but what Bill Gates does ultimately effects negatively the security and standard of living of the people of this country. To applaud that is reprehensible..

乃就跟盖子一样不爱国。你怎么能一边享受着国家给你的自由,用着人民修的路。喝着人民花钱提供的水。还说这种话。MD却是有严重的问题。但是盖子干的对国家安全和民计民生都产生了巨大的影响。赞成他才是应该被谴责的。
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Right E, anytime we work with other countries it's "Anty Umericun". You sound like a tea bagger. If so, aren't those roads you drive on funded by money that there commie guverment stole from ya? Yee haw!.

LS的。难道每次我们跟别的国家合作都是反MD么。你这猫娘养的。国家修那些路难道没从你那儿偷钱么。
(这大哥的拼写啊。。。就算乃为了讽刺LS也不要那么坑爹啊。。。)
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@BIG TIM--So how does working with China make nuclear power safer?@Chris--I don't agree with his tact but E is right and you accusing him of being a "tea bagger" and making passive redneck comments only shows your ignorance. I guess that is the way of the world theses days though. Don't like someone's opinion? Call them names. Actually, that just sounds like a bunch of 1st grade #$%$ to me so maybe it's not such a new thing..

TO LZ。俺们可以跟兔子合作让核能更安全呢~
TO LS。俺虽然觉得2楼太官腔。但他说的很对啊。而且你骂他猫娘养的就太不入流了。只能显示出你的无知。(后面就是在教育LS要讲文明懂礼貌。。。)
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Hi Charles, ignorance of what? That Tea Party backers think taxes that fund roads are theft by a socialist government? Um... ok. And I didn't call him names, I said he sounds like something. The redneck spelling was an attempt at humor but you're probably right that I shouldn't say anything that might damage the fragile feelings of sensitive bloggers. I mean, you'd never see that type of behavior on here. I do admit that I stooped to that level a bit but come on, lighten up Leonard..

LS的我那点儿无知了?难道我应该相信茶党那帮魂淡我们修路的钱都是从社会主义国家偷来的。
不是我说他猫娘养的。他本来就是。我是想用乡巴佬的说法来表示下幽默。实在不好意思伤到了您那脆弱的小神经。
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The only reason Gates is doing this in China is because the liberal, environmentalist, do nothing government will not allow him to do it in the United States..
盖子这么干的唯一理由是俺们自由又环保但是又嘛都不干的MD不让他在MD这么干。。
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Yep, that liberal environmentalist guvment would rather build more coal plants and oil pipelines... Wake up Will, most scientists (and they are mostly god-hating liberal environmentalists thankfully) think nuclear is what we need to do to stop the planet from cooking us alive..

咱们自由又环保的ZF更乐意挖煤矿修石油管道呢。LS的你快醒醒吧。所有科学家都知道核电是个好东西。
——————————————————WILL
Chris, I agree that Nuclear is the way to go. By the way, so does every conservative in the House and Senate. So, why can't we build nuclear reactors in the US? The simple answer is that every piece of legislation that would make it possible to build a nuclear reactor in the United States has been blocked by liberal politicians catering to their environmentalist base. Obama signed off on a bill that lifted restrictions on construction but left every regulation and compliance requirement in place. With all the regulations and compliance requirements that have to be navigated, it would take almost 20 years to build a facility. Even then, the facility would have to jump through more hoops to become operational. The US government is the problem in all of this..

LS大神。我知道核电很好。其实所有议员神马的都知道。但是为什么我们不建呢?还不是那些自由的政客只知道迎合那些环保主义者。把所有允许修核电的法律条文都干掉了。奥黑签署了一项议案解除了建核电站的限制。但是还有那么多规定和要求在那。有这些限制。咱20年都盖不起来一个核电站。就算盖成了。也要经过那么多审批才能开始运转。咱们这倒霉ZF才是问题根源。(这位大哥乃是在控诉体制问题么。。。T^T。。。)
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Will, I think it will take some time to get it through everyone's heads. No question that the left has been opposed to it in the past but I think that's changing. We are starting to see that we are in deep doo-doo with climate change now, something that wasn't obvious 20 years ago. Too bad things have to be obvious before we start worrying about them. However, conservatives are typically not for nuclear because they think it will help slow climate change. Most of them don't seem to believe in climate change or science for that matter. I think they're waiting for the end of days to wash the land clean and start over. Dog helps us...

我承认要所有人都了解需要些时间。但是我们在改变了。我们开始了解到。不出20年气候变化就会给我们带来大麻烦。但是那些保守主义者反对核电并不是因为那会减缓气候变化。是因为大多数人都不把气候变化当回事儿。他们才是不见棺材不掉泪的。。。
六尘缘影 发表于 2011-12-8 19:02
反正自己嫌累,把自己开的帖子的翻译贴到这里算了
Why would he deal with the country that pirates 90%  ...
最后那句应该是MD的孩子只知道打电动。而小兔子们却在为博士学位而努力。。。
And he couldn't partner with a US research department or University because of what?.为啥不和MD的研究所或大学合作呢
I just lost all the respect I had for Bill Gates! I used to think he was doing good for the world with his money. Now I know the truth. He's nothing but a traitor to his country!.我只是失去了所有对比尔盖茨的尊敬!我曾经以为他在用他的钱为世界谋福利。现在,我知道事情的真相。他不过是一个国家的叛徒。
Doing business with Hitler.... I don't think anyone doubts anymore that within the next 20 years we will be at war with China, so this is like doing business with Hitler in the 1930s.....这就像30年代与元首做生意一样
China is NOT our friend! Wake up people...这句不翻了
any American that takes their business overseas should be tried and executed for treason!!!!.任何把业务放在海外的美国人,应该以叛国罪受到审判和执行!!!!.
This is what happens when you have too much regulations and government oversight, companies don't want to invest in America anymore.

这就是MD政府管太宽的下场。没人想在MD投资了。(恩。体制问题。。。。)
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someone actually posted boycott microsoft that will never happen the founders of microsoft made it affordable enough for everyone and the offical software of most corporations. Bill probally wanted to do it in the USA. Did you ever think our goverment said no?

有些人倒是想发起制抵微软的活动呢。但是所有人和公司都在用微软的软件。乃觉得可能么。要是盖子想在国内修核电。乃觉得ZF会不答应么?
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Watch out, Bill. You don't want to give China nuclear weapons.

盖子要小心哦。别把核武给了兔子哦~
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nuclear power plants don't emit greenhouse gases and if they can make them safe with very little waste like they say I'm all for it. Hopefully this will shut down some of the coal fired power plants in China...China is now the biggest contributor to global warming.

核电和清洁啊。而且这样兔子家会少很多火电站的。兔子是全球变暖的幕后黑手啊有木有~~~
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Don't do it bill. While you want to save the world, China only cares about its well being. they will take or steal the technology

盖子乃可千万不能那么干啊。TG只对自己的利益感兴趣。他们一定会偷走乃的技术然后白菜之。。


我是张益达 发表于 2011-12-8 18:29
我看日本是不可能再建反应堆了   毛子和阿三也不太具备条件   多半会建在中国吧核反应堆也是 ...
我比较赞成这个观点,我不是悲观党,但是我们要随时有警惕之心。说不定这就是个圈套,把我们当小白鼠的,也许霉菌是在刺探我们的核技术发展内幕!!!!(我们和美帝之间从战略上讲根本就是对立的,我们应该小心为妙,像当初参加欧盟的“伽利略导航系统”最后还是被摆了一刀!!
再翻几个搞笑的。

Dancing with the devil.
与魔鬼共舞!
回复:Your home devils the exxon mobil BP dont want tto dance with him
那是因为你家里那只叫埃克森石油的魔鬼不想跟盖茨共舞。

With all the software piracy in China, it's the only way he'll get any money back from them
就TG那软件知识产权的环境,这是盖茨能从他们那儿捞点小钱钱的唯一途径了。

Way to sell the U.S out to china. Again...
MD又一次把自己卖给了兔子,咦我为什么要说又?

Bill Gates forgrt where he's from? what an #$%$...
比尔盖茨忘了他是哪国人了吗?艹!
(此评论简短有力生动活泼,竟然有66个网民举手表示赞成,当然还有16个反对的)
矛盾。。。矛盾
其实就是被利用的工具
为的是让对方死,让自己活!
{:soso_e151:}
翻一长的~活活的MD带路党~
I believe it was Cal Coolidge who said that "... the business of America is business....."
伟大的柯立芝曾说过。MD的支柱在于商业
In other words, those of us who weren't rich and powerful need not apply... Just shut your mouth and do what you're told.
换句话说。这对没权没势的P民不适用。所以都闭嘴好好干活去吧。
Remarkably like Red China (whose leaders hide behind the facade of a failed political system) wouldn't you say ? There, you shut your mouth and do what the State tells you to do.
很明显的。就像那只死小白兔。(他们的领导人总是藏在貌似失败的ZZ制度中)
你说不是么?所有。都闭嘴为了MD而奋斗吧。
When you worship greed; when you impose philosophy ..... even though both begin from opposite ends of the spectrum, the result is the same.
不管是崇拜贪婪(MD)还是利用哲学(我兔)。这两种途径看来相互排斥。实则殊途同归。
Capitalism and Communism can never meet, but they don't have too. They back-side into one another. (A graphic but not particularly attractive, though appropriate, picture.)
资本主义和社会主义永远不可能相交。也没那个必要。他们永远站在对立面上。
Gates is part of a ancient reality: loyalty to power is far more important than to a people ... any people.
盖子其实是一个古老的现实的明证。忠诚于实力远比忠诚于个人更重要。
In the past, this allowed for the strong to control our lives, even to condemn many of us to death in war.
过去。强权控制了我们的生活。让很多人死在了战争中。
Today, we've gone beyond that.
现在。我们已经看透了这些。
They can enslave ---- or kill ---- us all.
他们要么奴役我们要么杀光我们。
Conservatives, Liberals, Gutless "Moderates" have no one to blame but themselves.
保守主义者。自由党。没心没肺的中立派。每个人都应该被谴责。
美国愤青比中国的愤青还愤青。
森蚺 发表于 2011-12-8 18:27
我来试着翻译几句:

China is NOT our friend! Wake up people..
我相信这就是Cal Coolidge 说的“生意就是生意”,换句话说,对我们这些没有小钱钱也没有小肌肉的人来说,这不关我们的事,只要闭上嘴,别人让我们做什么就做什么得了(这算什么

……明显是一穷二白无产阶级愤党
zghnsyxb 发表于 2011-12-8 19:39
美国愤青比中国的愤青还愤青。
有愤青是好事儿,罗马帝国晚期是没有愤青的
天下愤愤是一家嘛


再翻个长的。不玩了~好累~
When you invest in China, you are investing in a communist country that does not believe in civil liberties, fair trade, etc. You think OUR government over regulates and sticks its nose where it doesn't belong? Their government tells them they can only have ONE child and sensors everything! Not to mention, it's not private industry that's spurring their economic growth, it's military spending. And don't for one minute think that they give a hoot about the environment and "clean" energy of ANY kind. They are looking to industrialize and they have been stealing the intellectual property rights of our industries in order to cut their R&D timelines and costs for DECADES. (Um, didn't we used to have a strong manufacturing base? It's not *just* the money grubbing unions that caused the collapse of the car manufacturing industry here.) China is also friends with countries who are known to be pursuing nuclear technologies for the purposes of weaponizing... North Korea, Iran, Pakistan... hmmm... I wonder what they would do with a LOW COST, LOW WASTE nuclear reactor technology???

To separate these larger issues that are potential consequences of this decision are just plain ignorant and GREEDY!!!!

MD人民愤怒了啊。。。

当你在兔子家投资的时候。你是在为一个不讲人权。不讲自由。不相信自由贸易的社会主义国家做贡献。你们都觉得MD管的太宽。但是它管过不该管的闲事儿么?(默默吐槽。管的还少么。。。)你看看TG多么没天理。只让生一个。并且对民众严加监视。(再吐槽。这说的还像MD自己。。。)更别说他家的经济增长根本是靠山寨拉动的。(这就是嫉妒。)再看看他家的军费增长。(还是嫉妒。赤果果的。)他们根本不管环境怎样。更别提神马清洁能源了。他们只知道工业化。不停地偷取MD的知识产权。结果节省了好多研发时间和科研经费。都是TG这个原罪整垮了MD强大的制造业基础。摧毁了我们的汽车制造工业。(这真是兔子干的么。有那么V5么。。。)TG还跟所有想发展核武器的国家交朋友。北棒。波斯。小巴。俺好想知道那帮死兔子想拿这些低耗低成本的核反应技术干神马好事?

而你们对待这些问题的态度就只是无视掉然后接着在TG投资赚钱?

再翻个长的。不玩了~好累~
When you invest in China, you are investing in a communist country that does not believe in civil liberties, fair trade, etc. You think OUR government over regulates and sticks its nose where it doesn't belong? Their government tells them they can only have ONE child and sensors everything! Not to mention, it's not private industry that's spurring their economic growth, it's military spending. And don't for one minute think that they give a hoot about the environment and "clean" energy of ANY kind. They are looking to industrialize and they have been stealing the intellectual property rights of our industries in order to cut their R&D timelines and costs for DECADES. (Um, didn't we used to have a strong manufacturing base? It's not *just* the money grubbing unions that caused the collapse of the car manufacturing industry here.) China is also friends with countries who are known to be pursuing nuclear technologies for the purposes of weaponizing... North Korea, Iran, Pakistan... hmmm... I wonder what they would do with a LOW COST, LOW WASTE nuclear reactor technology???

To separate these larger issues that are potential consequences of this decision are just plain ignorant and GREEDY!!!!

MD人民愤怒了啊。。。

当你在兔子家投资的时候。你是在为一个不讲人权。不讲自由。不相信自由贸易的社会主义国家做贡献。你们都觉得MD管的太宽。但是它管过不该管的闲事儿么?(默默吐槽。管的还少么。。。)你看看TG多么没天理。只让生一个。并且对民众严加监视。(再吐槽。这说的还像MD自己。。。)更别说他家的经济增长根本是靠山寨拉动的。(这就是嫉妒。)再看看他家的军费增长。(还是嫉妒。赤果果的。)他们根本不管环境怎样。更别提神马清洁能源了。他们只知道工业化。不停地偷取MD的知识产权。结果节省了好多研发时间和科研经费。都是TG这个原罪整垮了MD强大的制造业基础。摧毁了我们的汽车制造工业。(这真是兔子干的么。有那么V5么。。。)TG还跟所有想发展核武器的国家交朋友。北棒。波斯。小巴。俺好想知道那帮死兔子想拿这些低耗低成本的核反应技术干神马好事?

而你们对待这些问题的态度就只是无视掉然后接着在TG投资赚钱?
“..........Don't do it bill. While you want to save the world, China only cares about its well being. they will take or steal the technology

盖子乃可千万不能那么干啊。TG只对自己的利益感兴趣。他们一定会偷走乃的技术然后白菜之。。"
看到这句我笑了,看来MD还是有明白人啊
看完了……

这叫一个开心啊~~