超级军网澳洲军事专家Carlo Kopp对J20的技术分析
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Carlo博士是个很有争议的澳洲知名军事装备评论员，他本身航空方面的专业基础，但他个人的一些意见风格一向饱受批评。不过今天他发表的他和同事一起做的J20技术分析文章还是相当令人侧目的，他们使用专业分析软件，尽量以数字为判断标准，而不是个人感觉为依据，虽然他极力踩F35的风格依然，但是整篇分析还是有一定实力的。
文章太长，只能个人自己想办法翻墙去看了http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2011-03.html
复一个他们做的X波段前方RCS模拟图：
Carlo博士是个很有争议的澳洲知名军事装备评论员，他本身航空方面的专业基础，但他个人的一些意见风格一向饱受批评。不过今天他发表的他和同事一起做的J20技术分析文章还是相当令人侧目的，他们使用专业分析软件，尽量以数字为判断标准，而不是个人感觉为依据，虽然他极力踩F35的风格依然，但是整篇分析还是有一定实力的。
文章太长，只能个人自己想办法翻墙去看了http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2011-03.html
复一个他们做的X波段前方RCS模拟图：
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补充一下，他的基本结论是J20的设计符合中国的空防需求。如果量产时能保持目前的水平，正向RCS可以达到或者接近F22的水准，侧向RCS有些细节可以调整。
而后向RCS并非中国目前空防需求的重点，并不一定需要加强，目前至少明显好于T50,即使需要改进也完全来得及，也有潜力（相比F35）
而后向RCS并非中国目前空防需求的重点，并不一定需要加强，目前至少明显好于T50,即使需要改进也完全来得及，也有潜力（相比F35）
期待大牛翻墙翻译回来
我勒个去，我进去一看，超多，我都懒得看了.....
2011-7-3 17:36 上传
得，楼主把第二张图补了啊..
seele9999 发表于 2011-7-3 17:37 ![]()
得，楼主把第二张图补了啊..
正好没看见你的图
得，楼主把第二张图补了啊..
正好没看见你的图
留爪，坐等翻译帝
那么长，都成论文的。
等翻译
专业J20分析留爪，有空去看看
這樣的數據 未必客觀吧
看不懂数据！！小白表示看不懂！
期待专业分析研判
翻墙去看看~~这才是研究啊 但未知尺寸参数如何来 如果仅是凭借相关3D建模 那基础误差还是很大的
期待有人翻译过来
虽然看英文长文很难受。。
我去看看吧
我去看看吧
哪位大神翻译过来啊，，英语没过6级的人你们伤不起啊
这哥们真是专业啊，一张图看得我蛋疼。。。完全不懂
话说光看外形他就做这么多分析工作，什么数据也没有就推导一堆不怕偏差太大么？
话说光看外形他就做这么多分析工作，什么数据也没有就推导一堆不怕偏差太大么？
里面好多分析图的，楼主只贴了一点啊
这可比眼神党、感觉党靠谱多了，虽说不可能与真机完全符合，但绝对可以估测大概范围~~
有请楼主或能翻墙的把原文转帖过来吧。
留名，等大神的翻译
全文太多了，摘要有营养的不多。但是重要的结论是
This study has therefore established through Physical Optics simulation across nine radio-frequency bands, that no fundamental obstacles exist in the shaping design of the J-20 prototype precluding its development into a genuine Very Low Observable design.
本研究通过9个波段雷达波的physical optics simulation (一种研究方法)得出，J20原型机的外形确实符合极低可探测性的要求。
全文太多了，摘要有营养的不多。但是重要的结论是
This study has therefore established through Physical Optics simulation across nine radio-frequency bands, that no fundamental obstacles exist in the shaping design of the J-20 prototype precluding its development into a genuine Very Low Observable design.
本研究通过9个波段雷达波的physical optics simulation (一种研究方法)得出，J20原型机的外形确实符合极低可探测性的要求。
docliu 发表于 2011-7-3 18:43 ![]()
全文太多了，摘要有营养的不多。但是重要的结论是
This study has therefore established through Physic ...
把全文贴出来吧,功德无量啊
全文太多了，摘要有营养的不多。但是重要的结论是
This study has therefore established through Physic ...
把全文贴出来吧,功德无量啊
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600 MHz to defeat UHF band radars such as those carried by the E-2C/D AEW&C system, or the widely used Russian Kasta 2/2E and P-15/19 Flat Face / Squat Eye series;
1.2 GHz to defeat L-band surface based search, acquisition and GCI radars, and the Northrop-Grumman MESA AEW&C radar;
3.0 GHz to defeat widely used S-band acquisition radars, and the E-3 APY-1/APY-2 AWACS system;
6.0 GHz to defeat C-band Surface-Air-Missile engagement radars such as the MPQ-53/65 Patriot system;
8.0 GHz to defeat a range of X-band airborne fighter radars, Surface-Air-Missile engagement radars such as the 30N6E Flap Lid / Tomb Stone, and 92N6E Grave Stone, and a range of Western and Russian Surface-Air-Missile seekers;
12.0 GHz to defeat a range of X-band airborne fighter radars, Surface-Air-Missile engagement radars, and Surface-Air-Missile and Air-Air-Missile seekers;
16.0 GHz to defeat a range of Ku-band airborne fighter radars, and Surface-Air-Missile engagement radars, and Surface-Air-Missile and Air-Air-Missile seekers;
28.0 GHz to defeat a range of K-band missile seekers, and Surface-Air-Missile engagement radars;
600 MHz to defeat UHF band radars such as those carried by the E-2C/D AEW&C system, or the widely used Russian Kasta 2/2E and P-15/19 Flat Face / Squat Eye series;
1.2 GHz to defeat L-band surface based search, acquisition and GCI radars, and the Northrop-Grumman MESA AEW&C radar;
3.0 GHz to defeat widely used S-band acquisition radars, and the E-3 APY-1/APY-2 AWACS system;
6.0 GHz to defeat C-band Surface-Air-Missile engagement radars such as the MPQ-53/65 Patriot system;
8.0 GHz to defeat a range of X-band airborne fighter radars, Surface-Air-Missile engagement radars such as the 30N6E Flap Lid / Tomb Stone, and 92N6E Grave Stone, and a range of Western and Russian Surface-Air-Missile seekers;
12.0 GHz to defeat a range of X-band airborne fighter radars, Surface-Air-Missile engagement radars, and Surface-Air-Missile and Air-Air-Missile seekers;
16.0 GHz to defeat a range of Ku-band airborne fighter radars, and Surface-Air-Missile engagement radars, and Surface-Air-Missile and Air-Air-Missile seekers;
28.0 GHz to defeat a range of K-band missile seekers, and Surface-Air-Missile engagement radars;
这网站现在瘫了？我用国外的IP也上不去啊
In conclusion, this study has established through Physical Optics simulation across nine frequency bands, that no fundamental obstacles exist in the shaping design of the J-20 prototype, which would preclude its development into a genuine Very Low Observable design.
伸手党~~~
哪位兄弟给翻译一下。
银文看不明白，图更看不明白。
伸手党…
原文的结论还是很审慎的
极低可探测性的要求。
sevenmiles 发表于 2011-7-3 18:53 ![]()
150 MHz to defeat Russian built VHF band Counter-VLO radars such as the Nebo UE, Nebo SVU and Nebo M ...
150兆赫击败俄罗斯建立甚高频波段counter-vlo雷达波等，尼特和奈米系列，或rezonans氮氖系列；600兆赫的超高频波段雷达失败等进行e-2c/预警和控制系统，或广泛使用的俄罗斯kasta2 /2/19和p-15扁平脸蹲眼系列；1.2兆赫波段表面击败搜索，获取和国际雷达，和诺格-格鲁曼公司平顶山预警机雷达；3兆赫波段雷达击败广泛用于收购，和Eapy-1/apy-2预警系统；6兆赫波段雷达击败surface-air-missile接触等mpq-53/65爱国者系统；8吉赫击败一系列机载X波段战斗机雷达，雷达surface-air-missile接触等30n6e皮瓣/墓盖石，和92n6e墓碑，以及一系列的西方和俄罗斯surface-air-missile者；12吉赫击败一系列战斗机机载X波段雷达，雷达surface-air-missile订婚，并surface-air-missile和air-air-missile者；16吉赫打败一个波段机载歼击机雷达范围，并surface-air-missile参与雷达，和surface-air-missile和air-air-missile者；28兆赫波段击败一系列导弹求职者，和surface-air-missile参与雷达；
150 MHz to defeat Russian built VHF band Counter-VLO radars such as the Nebo UE, Nebo SVU and Nebo M ...
150兆赫击败俄罗斯建立甚高频波段counter-vlo雷达波等，尼特和奈米系列，或rezonans氮氖系列；600兆赫的超高频波段雷达失败等进行e-2c/预警和控制系统，或广泛使用的俄罗斯kasta2 /2/19和p-15扁平脸蹲眼系列；1.2兆赫波段表面击败搜索，获取和国际雷达，和诺格-格鲁曼公司平顶山预警机雷达；3兆赫波段雷达击败广泛用于收购，和Eapy-1/apy-2预警系统；6兆赫波段雷达击败surface-air-missile接触等mpq-53/65爱国者系统；8吉赫击败一系列机载X波段战斗机雷达，雷达surface-air-missile接触等30n6e皮瓣/墓盖石，和92n6e墓碑，以及一系列的西方和俄罗斯surface-air-missile者；12吉赫击败一系列战斗机机载X波段雷达，雷达surface-air-missile订婚，并surface-air-missile和air-air-missile者；16吉赫打败一个波段机载歼击机雷达范围，并surface-air-missile参与雷达，和surface-air-missile和air-air-missile者；28兆赫波段击败一系列导弹求职者，和surface-air-missile参与雷达；
2011-7-3 19:12 上传
To establish the robustness of the 3D model for physical optics modelling, we explored the statistical distribution of edge lengths [x-axis] in the facet population [y-axis]. A substantial fraction of the facets are sufficiently large to yield good accuracy through most of the frequency bands being modelled for.
To establish the robustness of the 3D model for physical optics modelling, we explored the statistical distribution of edge lengths [x-axis] in the facet population [y-axis]. A substantial fraction of the facets are sufficiently large to yield good accuracy through most of the frequency bands being modelled for.
latte8113 发表于 2011-7-3 19:09 ![]()
150兆赫击败俄罗斯建立甚高频波段counter-vlo雷达波等，尼特和奈米系列，或rezonans氮氖系列；600兆赫的超 ...
这个翻译实在是有点
150兆赫击败俄罗斯建立甚高频波段counter-vlo雷达波等，尼特和奈米系列，或rezonans氮氖系列；600兆赫的超 ...
这个翻译实在是有点文章很严谨，不过数据恐怕就不好说了，至少20是这样
求翻译帝。。。