ZZ韩国K30自行防空高射炮

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来源:http://shutwho.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B09%3A00&updated-max=2011-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B09%3A00&max-results=9

K30 Flying Tigers(Beeho) SPAAG

Type : Self-propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun

Place of origin : ROK(South Korea)
Designer : Agency for Defense Development(in the beginning) / Doosan DST,ex-Daewoo Heavy Industries & Machinery(later)
Designed : 1983 ~ 1999
Manufacturer : Doosan DST
Unit cost : about 8.7 million USD
Produced : 2004~, about 200(167?) vehicles will be produced.
Weight : 25ton
Length : 6.95m
Width : 3.2m
Height : 4.5m
Crew : 4(Commander, Gunner, Loader and Driver)

Armament : S&T Dynamics KKCB(copy of Rheinmetall Air Defence AG,ex-Oerlikon Contraves AG, KCB) 30mm twin cannon

Effective ragne: 3km
Rate of fire: 600 RPM x 2
Accuracy rate of fire: 1/15
Ammo: HEIT-SD, HEI and TP-T
30mm Ammo stowage: 600 rds
Ammo reloading: in 5 minutes

Engine : licensed MAN D2840L 520HP diesel engine
Transmission : licensed L3 Combat Propulsion Systems,ex-GDLS, HMPT500-3EK
Suspension : Torsion bar
Operational range : 500km
Max speed : 60km/h(road)
Gradient : 60%
Side slope : 30%
Fording: 1.2m

Search Radar: LIG Nex1's MPS-1 X-band radar. search range:17km, ECCM capability.

Tracking System: Raytheon developed, SamsungThales produced EOTS. tracking range:7km
//rumor has it that later batch of K30 has been equipped with ADD-Doosan developed EOTS.


K30 Flying Tigers are old fashioned SPAAG. well, if they were completed development of this system as planned in 1991, it would've been fine. but they fielded this system 20 years since starting development.
they spent 8 years(1992-2000) for Developmental & Operatioal Test, spent year 2000 and 2001 for development of KKCB, and got contract for first batch(54 vehicles) in 2002.
there were Interference and low-angle land clutter problems on MPS-1 search radar. It was a real pain in the ass while developing K30 SPAAG.
also there was gun barrel erosion on KKCB but this was solved after enhancing heat treatment and gas nitriding.
all K30s will be modified having KPSAM Chiron MANPADS on her.

来源:http://shutwho.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B09%3A00&updated-max=2011-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B09%3A00&max-results=9

K30 Flying Tigers(Beeho) SPAAG

Type : Self-propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun

Place of origin : ROK(South Korea)
Designer : Agency for Defense Development(in the beginning) / Doosan DST,ex-Daewoo Heavy Industries & Machinery(later)
Designed : 1983 ~ 1999
Manufacturer : Doosan DST
Unit cost : about 8.7 million USD
Produced : 2004~, about 200(167?) vehicles will be produced.
Weight : 25ton
Length : 6.95m
Width : 3.2m
Height : 4.5m
Crew : 4(Commander, Gunner, Loader and Driver)

Armament : S&T Dynamics KKCB(copy of Rheinmetall Air Defence AG,ex-Oerlikon Contraves AG, KCB) 30mm twin cannon

Effective ragne: 3km
Rate of fire: 600 RPM x 2
Accuracy rate of fire: 1/15
Ammo: HEIT-SD, HEI and TP-T
30mm Ammo stowage: 600 rds
Ammo reloading: in 5 minutes

Engine : licensed MAN D2840L 520HP diesel engine
Transmission : licensed L3 Combat Propulsion Systems,ex-GDLS, HMPT500-3EK
Suspension : Torsion bar
Operational range : 500km
Max speed : 60km/h(road)
Gradient : 60%
Side slope : 30%
Fording: 1.2m

Search Radar: LIG Nex1's MPS-1 X-band radar. search range:17km, ECCM capability.

Tracking System: Raytheon developed, SamsungThales produced EOTS. tracking range:7km
//rumor has it that later batch of K30 has been equipped with ADD-Doosan developed EOTS.


K30 Flying Tigers are old fashioned SPAAG. well, if they were completed development of this system as planned in 1991, it would've been fine. but they fielded this system 20 years since starting development.
they spent 8 years(1992-2000) for Developmental & Operatioal Test, spent year 2000 and 2001 for development of KKCB, and got contract for first batch(54 vehicles) in 2002.
there were Interference and low-angle land clutter problems on MPS-1 search radar. It was a real pain in the ass while developing K30 SPAAG.
also there was gun barrel erosion on KKCB but this was solved after enhancing heat treatment and gas nitriding.
all K30s will be modified having KPSAM Chiron MANPADS on her.
继续~~
既不像转管炮、转膛炮那样有高射速
又没有带编程空爆引信
作为新一代小口径高炮有点落后了
不过也配有导弹
万字军骑士 发表于 2011-5-4 22:15


呵呵,TG的35MM高炮看来也悲剧了
i冷眼旁观 发表于 2011-5-4 22:16


    35炮恰恰带编程弹
rayghost 发表于 2011-5-4 22:21

给个图吧~
相关证据~
能拦截反辐射导弹不?
i冷眼旁观 发表于 2011-5-4 22:25


    自己看炮口装订线圈 看不懂自己百度去

http://lt.cjdby.net/viewthread.p ... t=35%2B%D7%D4%D0%D0
i冷眼旁观 发表于 2011-5-4 22:16
TG的新型履带式双35mm高炮及出口型号车载双35mm高炮从外观结构上看应该带有编程空爆定装功能
rayghost 发表于 2011-5-4 22:33

那并不代表有编程弹~

那并不代表有编程弹~
i冷眼旁观 发表于 2011-5-4 22:34



   那您觉得装订线圈放着干啥呢?
那并不代表有编程弹~
i冷眼旁观 发表于 2011-5-4 22:34



   那您觉得装订线圈放着干啥呢?
rayghost 发表于 2011-5-4 22:35


测初速~
上张图
Rate of fire: 600 RPM x 2
=======================
好象还不赖
2011-5-4 22:44 上传

不认为TB把双35装个线圈就只是为了测初速,TB还是比较有野心的 估计山寨了瑞士的那个35了吧。
rayghost 发表于 2011-5-4 22:45

不是扯,TG的技术实力摆在那里~
给你对比一下,霓虹87炮
好好看一下炮口,只是测初速~

不认为TB把双35装个线圈就只是为了测初速,TB还是比较有野心的 估计山寨了瑞士的那个35了吧。
YF103 发表于 2011-5-4 22:45



引进的是人家80年代的产品~!
当年没有编程弹卖~
不认为TB把双35装个线圈就只是为了测初速,TB还是比较有野心的 估计山寨了瑞士的那个35了吧。
YF103 发表于 2011-5-4 22:45



引进的是人家80年代的产品~!
当年没有编程弹卖~
回复 18# i冷眼旁观


    我知道 那个牵引式的35,我 说现在的自行双35估计山寨了 瑞士的那个线圈炮了。可编程弹药 我觉得那个火力太BT了。。
rayghost 发表于 2011-5-4 22:33

在没有明确的证据前千万别下结论,呵呵
YF103 发表于 2011-5-4 22:52

和霓虹87炮差不多的水平吧~
编程弹,呵呵,一时半会的拿不出来~
i冷眼旁观 发表于 2011-5-4 22:52


    睁大你眼睛看看测试图和87的炮口线圈哪一点一样?
原版也不是没用过 原理样车和原型车都有笼状测速

睁大你眼睛看看测试图和87的炮口线圈哪一点一样?
原版也不是没用过 原理样车和原型车都有笼状测 ...
rayghost 发表于 2011-5-4 22:55


反正你就是没有证据~
我的证据是目前35MM自行炮没有装备部队,就算装备部队了,也没有打炮演习(出现炮弹外观),不能证明35MM编程弹的存在
另外和外国的技术差距不是一下子飞跃的~
有编程弹,海军的37炮上就应该出现了,可是影子都没有看到~
睁大你眼睛看看测试图和87的炮口线圈哪一点一样?
原版也不是没用过 原理样车和原型车都有笼状测 ...
rayghost 发表于 2011-5-4 22:55


反正你就是没有证据~
我的证据是目前35MM自行炮没有装备部队,就算装备部队了,也没有打炮演习(出现炮弹外观),不能证明35MM编程弹的存在
另外和外国的技术差距不是一下子飞跃的~
有编程弹,海军的37炮上就应该出现了,可是影子都没有看到~
回复 21# i冷眼旁观


    饿 不知道新35到底咋样了? TB还在搞个加斯特的炮。
YF103 发表于 2011-5-4 23:04


生产单位可能不一样吧~
两家抢单子~
i冷眼旁观 发表于 2011-5-4 23:00



那等吧 反正第一批出货了 谜底就要揭晓了  看看你狗眼看到了啥
AHEAD技术也不是天顶星 原型90年代中期就出现了
反正目前天马30炮无论各个参数连87老猎豹都顶不住 35没编程弹照样稳拿
rayghost 发表于 2011-5-4 23:06


对于TG,一般来说都得有个实物,没有实物山寨概念比较难,尤其是没有相关技术的情况下~
新的35MM炮和霓虹87炮系出同源,数据上差不了太多吧
rayghost 发表于 2011-5-4 23:06


继续补充,TG现在就是没有编程弹,如果有,牵引的35MM炮(改造)就可以先用嘛~
i冷眼旁观 发表于 2011-5-4 23:08


  日本87综合设计上受到限制 61底盘和大头不太匹配 观瞄通道稍少
产品山寨问题 整体外购受限是不假 分系统部分技术曲线流入一点不少
2011-5-4 23:27 上传

rayghost 发表于 2011-5-4 23:15
不好意思,74式的底盘;P
ldx861111 发表于 2011-5-4 23:45


    记错了。。。。。
    ;funk

    不过74底盘也够紧张的
rayghost 发表于 2011-5-4 23:28


  这个首次见到
笑而不语:D
bigblu 发表于 2011-5-5 00:00


    有料就快尿  不尿用谢霆锋····
回复 34# bigblu


    严重批判大布鲁打酱油看热闹!
这么牛推过38线啊,整天吹的不行烦死了。
ldx861111 发表于 2011-5-4 23:45


刚想提醒他,被你抢先了,呵呵~
炮口配备炮口初速测量装置。
  ②两身管位于炮塔两侧,炮塔前部呈方形,位于车体中前部,炮塔后端依次配置了圆形跟踪雷达和棒状搜索雷达,搜索雷达支臂向后上方托举跟踪雷达。德国双 35 猎豹高炮的圆形跟踪雷达位于炮塔前部,这是两种火炮外形最大的区别。
  ③采用 74 式坦克底盘,两侧配置了 5 对大直径负重轮,无托带轮。
这是要产业升级啊,想抢谁的生意呢