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《简氏防务周刊》2011年2月16日发表了一篇名为：China sets the tone《中国定调》的文章，全文图片链接：复制代码
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China sets the toneThe implications of China's unprecedented build-up of air force capabilities, coupled with a palpable increase in self confidence and assertiveness, has been significant for China's near neighbours.
中国空军能力的空前增强，再加上由此显著增加的自信心，一直对中国周边国家产生重大影响。
The People`s Liberation Army Air Force(PLAAF) is recapitalising nearly all aspects of its inventories. focusing on the introduction of hundreds of advanced combat aircraft and the development of force multipliers. The strategy behind the modernisation programme is outlined by China`s defence White Paper. which highlights a transition towards a more offensive stance and capabilities to execute “long-range precision strikes and strategic projection operations".
中国空军（PLAAF）几乎对他的所有资产进行投资，重点是引进数百架先进作战飞机，使其力量成倍增强。现代化计划背后的战略由中国国防白皮书进行概述。其中突出了进攻姿态和逐步具备执行“远程精确打击和战略投送”能力。
As a result of Beijing’s air force strategy. nearly all other countries in the region are procuring. or planning to procure. the latest generation combat aircraft. Australia. Japan,South Korea. Taiwan. Singapore and Malaysia all have major combat aircraft programmes on the horizon, while Indonesia. Thailand. the Philippines and Vietnam are also upgrading their air three capabilities. Efforts to expand force multiplier capabilities - particularly surveillance and airbome early waming and control assets- are intensifying, although for some countries the requirement to upgrade transport resources remains a high priority.
作为北京空军战略的结果，该地区几乎所有其他国家都进行购买或计划购买最新一代作战飞机。澳大利亚、日本、韩国、台湾、新加坡和马来西亚的主要作战飞机项目处在同一水平线上。而印尼、泰国、菲律宾和越南也在更新空军的三种能力，努力扩大力量倍增器，尤其是监测和机载预警和控制的资产在急速增加，尽管有一些国家的要求中，提高运输资源仍然是一个高优先项目。
China
China's efforts to build a strategically advanced air force have made considerable progress over the past decade and evidence suggests that Beijing is on truck to meet some ambitious objectives. Central to this strategy is the move away from a territorial-based air-defence capability to one that carries out offensive and reconnaissance operations far from China`s shores, as well as early warning missions. air strikes. air and missile defence and strategic projection missions. Such a focus is outlined in the defence White Paper and is driving foreign purchases and indigenous development programmes.
中国建立一支先进空军的战略在过去十年取得了相当大的进展，有证据表明，北京是为了满足一些雄心勃勃的目标。这一战略的核心是摆脱以领土为基础的防空，建立一个远离中国海岸，拥有侦察和空战，以及早期预警，空袭，空中和导弹防御和战略投送能力的空军。这一核心是国防白皮书的概括，并推动了外国购买和本土发展项目。
These programmes, which are supported by unprecedented levels of government funding, have resulted in the development of fourth-generation combat aircraft platforms - notably the Shenyang J-11B (based on the Russian Sukhoi Su-27 'Flanker') and the Chengdu J-10 -- which combine new beyond-visual-range and helmet-sighted air-to-air missiles that demonstrate capabilities roughly equivalent to those of US and Japanese platforms. These platforms. which are augmented by Russian aircraft such as the Sukhoi Su-30MKK. are gradually replacing the PLAAF’s second- and third-generation combat aircraft, such as the Shenyang J-8 and the Chengdu .J-7.
这些项目，获得了政府前所未有的拨款支持，已经导致了第四代作战飞机平台的发展，尤其是沈阳J- 11B（基于俄罗斯苏霍伊的Su-27'侧卫'）和成都J- 10（结合了新的超视距和头盔瞄准的空空导弹，其展示的能力大致相当于美国和日本的同类平台）。这些平台包括俄罗斯飞机例如苏霍伊Su- 30MKK，正在逐渐取代解放军空军的第二代和第三代作战飞机，如沈阳J-8和成都J-7。
The speed of China's modernisation is exemplified by the emergence of the so-called fifth-generation Chengdu J-20 aircraft. Images of the J-20. which has clearly been designed with a reduced radar cross-section in mind,first emerged in January 2011 . suggesting that the platform. under development for at least 10 years, is on track to enter PLAAF service before the end of the decade. Another indication of China's commitment to its air force modernisation is the J-l0B: an aircraft that made its first flight in 2009 as a significantly enhanced version of the baseline platform.
中国的现代化速度，在被称为第五代成都J- 20的身上得到了体现。J- 20的照片，首先出现在2011年1月，照片清晰的显示了减少雷达反射面积的设计思想。这表明，该平台结束测试进入中国空军服役，至少还有10年时间。另一个中国空军的现代化标志是J- l0B：在2009年作为基准平台的增强版本进行了首次试飞。
According to Jane's analysis, the proportion of fourth-generation aircraft in service with the PLAAF has increased from 23 per cent in 2005 to 33 per cent in 2010 and is expected to reach about 50 per cent by 20l5. Progress will partly be driven by China's success at developing and producing sufficiently powerful and reliable engines. The J-10 and .J-11 platforms are currently powered by Russian Saturn AL-3lF engines. highlighting a capability gap in China's industrial base, although the PLAAF plans to replace this engine with an indigenously developed WS-10 engine in the future. Such a move could see the eventual requirement for J-10s and J-11s to increase to several hundred platforms.
根据简氏的分析，第四代战机在解放军空军服役的比例已由2005年的23%上升至2010年的33%，预计在2015年将达到约50%。进展将部分取决于中国开发和生产足够强大和可靠的发动机能否成功，J-10和J-11平台目前使用俄罗斯土星的AL-3lF发动机。这突出了一个中国工业基础能力的差距，虽然解放军空军计划在未来用自行研制的WS- 10发动机更换。这一举措可以看为J- 10和J- 11的最终需求将增长到几百架。
China's vast fleet of combat aircraft also includes around 80 improved Xian JH-7A fighter bombers along with about 100 Xian H-6 bombers. which are based on a variant of the Soviet Tupolev Tu- 16 'Badger' . This platform is also thought to have been updated recently. with a new variant reportedly having made its maiden flight in 2007.
中国的庞大机群还包括约80架增强型西安JH- 7A战斗轰炸机以及约100架西安H -6轰炸机（基于对苏联图波列夫T-16'獾'的变种）。该平台也被认为最近已更新。据报道，一个新的变种已在2007年进行首飞。
本菜的一些疑问：
1、严重抗议j8被替换！离大不是说空军看不上飞豹和j10，宁要j8。j8订货比j10多么，可见简氏是睁着眼睛说瞎话，不了解国情，明显没有看到离大“J8系列还要继续长期大量生产下去
”“订单巨大”的论断。
2、严重抗议双重标准！为啥j11B就要在后面备注一个基于su27，H6后面要备注一个基于T16，而j10后面却备注个超视距攻击和头盔瞄准，还说什么展示的能力大致相当于美国和日本的同类平台。明显没有认真学习和贯彻落实离大关于j10与以色列LAVI前世今生的考证，罔顾“事实”，“不学无术”，执行双重标准。
3、严重抗议同工不同酬！j10B怎么会被认为是中国空军现代化的标志，这样的殊荣不是只给了j20吗，凭什么作为同一代机，j10B能踩在j11B和j10的头上。罔顾离大2009年《现代兵器》第一期，不应该装备j10的倡议，该倡议原文：“ 中国目前已经具备独立生产和改进研制重型远程战斗机的能力和条件，那么在空军和海军航空兵已经大量装备第三代重型战斗机苏-27/歼11的情况下，再去发展和装备规格类似、气动布局不同的同类战斗机，如歼10，在经济上和装备上将成为无法接受的浪费。现代战斗机设计过程中不但要考虑飞机本身的性能指标和成本，而且必须明确飞机在现有和未来空中作战力量中的作用。新型战斗机能否融合到整个航空装备体系的发展之中，能做什么和应该做什么，也许是在其发展过程中最难回答的问题。
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《简氏防务周刊》2011年2月16日发表了一篇名为：China sets the tone《中国定调》的文章，全文图片链接：
部分节选如下：
China sets the toneThe implications of China's unprecedented build-up of air force capabilities, coupled with a palpable increase in self confidence and assertiveness, has been significant for China's near neighbours.
中国空军能力的空前增强，再加上由此显著增加的自信心，一直对中国周边国家产生重大影响。
The People`s Liberation Army Air Force(PLAAF) is recapitalising nearly all aspects of its inventories. focusing on the introduction of hundreds of advanced combat aircraft and the development of force multipliers. The strategy behind the modernisation programme is outlined by China`s defence White Paper. which highlights a transition towards a more offensive stance and capabilities to execute “long-range precision strikes and strategic projection operations".
中国空军（PLAAF）几乎对他的所有资产进行投资，重点是引进数百架先进作战飞机，使其力量成倍增强。现代化计划背后的战略由中国国防白皮书进行概述。其中突出了进攻姿态和逐步具备执行“远程精确打击和战略投送”能力。
As a result of Beijing’s air force strategy. nearly all other countries in the region are procuring. or planning to procure. the latest generation combat aircraft. Australia. Japan,South Korea. Taiwan. Singapore and Malaysia all have major combat aircraft programmes on the horizon, while Indonesia. Thailand. the Philippines and Vietnam are also upgrading their air three capabilities. Efforts to expand force multiplier capabilities - particularly surveillance and airbome early waming and control assets- are intensifying, although for some countries the requirement to upgrade transport resources remains a high priority.
作为北京空军战略的结果，该地区几乎所有其他国家都进行购买或计划购买最新一代作战飞机。澳大利亚、日本、韩国、台湾、新加坡和马来西亚的主要作战飞机项目处在同一水平线上。而印尼、泰国、菲律宾和越南也在更新空军的三种能力，努力扩大力量倍增器，尤其是监测和机载预警和控制的资产在急速增加，尽管有一些国家的要求中，提高运输资源仍然是一个高优先项目。
China
China's efforts to build a strategically advanced air force have made considerable progress over the past decade and evidence suggests that Beijing is on truck to meet some ambitious objectives. Central to this strategy is the move away from a territorial-based air-defence capability to one that carries out offensive and reconnaissance operations far from China`s shores, as well as early warning missions. air strikes. air and missile defence and strategic projection missions. Such a focus is outlined in the defence White Paper and is driving foreign purchases and indigenous development programmes.
中国建立一支先进空军的战略在过去十年取得了相当大的进展，有证据表明，北京是为了满足一些雄心勃勃的目标。这一战略的核心是摆脱以领土为基础的防空，建立一个远离中国海岸，拥有侦察和空战，以及早期预警，空袭，空中和导弹防御和战略投送能力的空军。这一核心是国防白皮书的概括，并推动了外国购买和本土发展项目。
These programmes, which are supported by unprecedented levels of government funding, have resulted in the development of fourth-generation combat aircraft platforms - notably the Shenyang J-11B (based on the Russian Sukhoi Su-27 'Flanker') and the Chengdu J-10 -- which combine new beyond-visual-range and helmet-sighted air-to-air missiles that demonstrate capabilities roughly equivalent to those of US and Japanese platforms. These platforms. which are augmented by Russian aircraft such as the Sukhoi Su-30MKK. are gradually replacing the PLAAF’s second- and third-generation combat aircraft, such as the Shenyang J-8 and the Chengdu .J-7.
这些项目，获得了政府前所未有的拨款支持，已经导致了第四代作战飞机平台的发展，尤其是沈阳J- 11B（基于俄罗斯苏霍伊的Su-27'侧卫'）和成都J- 10（结合了新的超视距和头盔瞄准的空空导弹，其展示的能力大致相当于美国和日本的同类平台）。这些平台包括俄罗斯飞机例如苏霍伊Su- 30MKK，正在逐渐取代解放军空军的第二代和第三代作战飞机，如沈阳J-8和成都J-7。
The speed of China's modernisation is exemplified by the emergence of the so-called fifth-generation Chengdu J-20 aircraft. Images of the J-20. which has clearly been designed with a reduced radar cross-section in mind,first emerged in January 2011 . suggesting that the platform. under development for at least 10 years, is on track to enter PLAAF service before the end of the decade. Another indication of China's commitment to its air force modernisation is the J-l0B: an aircraft that made its first flight in 2009 as a significantly enhanced version of the baseline platform.
中国的现代化速度，在被称为第五代成都J- 20的身上得到了体现。J- 20的照片，首先出现在2011年1月，照片清晰的显示了减少雷达反射面积的设计思想。这表明，该平台结束测试进入中国空军服役，至少还有10年时间。另一个中国空军的现代化标志是J- l0B：在2009年作为基准平台的增强版本进行了首次试飞。
According to Jane's analysis, the proportion of fourth-generation aircraft in service with the PLAAF has increased from 23 per cent in 2005 to 33 per cent in 2010 and is expected to reach about 50 per cent by 20l5. Progress will partly be driven by China's success at developing and producing sufficiently powerful and reliable engines. The J-10 and .J-11 platforms are currently powered by Russian Saturn AL-3lF engines. highlighting a capability gap in China's industrial base, although the PLAAF plans to replace this engine with an indigenously developed WS-10 engine in the future. Such a move could see the eventual requirement for J-10s and J-11s to increase to several hundred platforms.
根据简氏的分析，第四代战机在解放军空军服役的比例已由2005年的23%上升至2010年的33%，预计在2015年将达到约50%。进展将部分取决于中国开发和生产足够强大和可靠的发动机能否成功，J-10和J-11平台目前使用俄罗斯土星的AL-3lF发动机。这突出了一个中国工业基础能力的差距，虽然解放军空军计划在未来用自行研制的WS- 10发动机更换。这一举措可以看为J- 10和J- 11的最终需求将增长到几百架。
China's vast fleet of combat aircraft also includes around 80 improved Xian JH-7A fighter bombers along with about 100 Xian H-6 bombers. which are based on a variant of the Soviet Tupolev Tu- 16 'Badger' . This platform is also thought to have been updated recently. with a new variant reportedly having made its maiden flight in 2007.
中国的庞大机群还包括约80架增强型西安JH- 7A战斗轰炸机以及约100架西安H -6轰炸机（基于对苏联图波列夫T-16'獾'的变种）。该平台也被认为最近已更新。据报道，一个新的变种已在2007年进行首飞。
本菜的一些疑问：
1、严重抗议j8被替换！离大不是说空军看不上飞豹和j10，宁要j8。j8订货比j10多么，可见简氏是睁着眼睛说瞎话，不了解国情，明显没有看到离大“J8系列还要继续长期大量生产下去
”“订单巨大”的论断。
2、严重抗议双重标准！为啥j11B就要在后面备注一个基于su27，H6后面要备注一个基于T16，而j10后面却备注个超视距攻击和头盔瞄准，还说什么展示的能力大致相当于美国和日本的同类平台。明显没有认真学习和贯彻落实离大关于j10与以色列LAVI前世今生的考证，罔顾“事实”，“不学无术”，执行双重标准。
3、严重抗议同工不同酬！j10B怎么会被认为是中国空军现代化的标志，这样的殊荣不是只给了j20吗，凭什么作为同一代机，j10B能踩在j11B和j10的头上。罔顾离大2009年《现代兵器》第一期，不应该装备j10的倡议，该倡议原文：“ 中国目前已经具备独立生产和改进研制重型远程战斗机的能力和条件，那么在空军和海军航空兵已经大量装备第三代重型战斗机苏-27/歼11的情况下，再去发展和装备规格类似、气动布局不同的同类战斗机，如歼10，在经济上和装备上将成为无法接受的浪费。现代战斗机设计过程中不但要考虑飞机本身的性能指标和成本，而且必须明确飞机在现有和未来空中作战力量中的作用。新型战斗机能否融合到整个航空装备体系的发展之中，能做什么和应该做什么，也许是在其发展过程中最难回答的问题。
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部分节选如下：
China sets the toneThe implications of China's unprecedented build-up of air force capabilities, coupled with a palpable increase in self confidence and assertiveness, has been significant for China's near neighbours.
中国空军能力的空前增强，再加上由此显著增加的自信心，一直对中国周边国家产生重大影响。
The People`s Liberation Army Air Force(PLAAF) is recapitalising nearly all aspects of its inventories. focusing on the introduction of hundreds of advanced combat aircraft and the development of force multipliers. The strategy behind the modernisation programme is outlined by China`s defence White Paper. which highlights a transition towards a more offensive stance and capabilities to execute “long-range precision strikes and strategic projection operations".
中国空军（PLAAF）几乎对他的所有资产进行投资，重点是引进数百架先进作战飞机，使其力量成倍增强。现代化计划背后的战略由中国国防白皮书进行概述。其中突出了进攻姿态和逐步具备执行“远程精确打击和战略投送”能力。
As a result of Beijing’s air force strategy. nearly all other countries in the region are procuring. or planning to procure. the latest generation combat aircraft. Australia. Japan,South Korea. Taiwan. Singapore and Malaysia all have major combat aircraft programmes on the horizon, while Indonesia. Thailand. the Philippines and Vietnam are also upgrading their air three capabilities. Efforts to expand force multiplier capabilities - particularly surveillance and airbome early waming and control assets- are intensifying, although for some countries the requirement to upgrade transport resources remains a high priority.
作为北京空军战略的结果，该地区几乎所有其他国家都进行购买或计划购买最新一代作战飞机。澳大利亚、日本、韩国、台湾、新加坡和马来西亚的主要作战飞机项目处在同一水平线上。而印尼、泰国、菲律宾和越南也在更新空军的三种能力，努力扩大力量倍增器，尤其是监测和机载预警和控制的资产在急速增加，尽管有一些国家的要求中，提高运输资源仍然是一个高优先项目。
China
China's efforts to build a strategically advanced air force have made considerable progress over the past decade and evidence suggests that Beijing is on truck to meet some ambitious objectives. Central to this strategy is the move away from a territorial-based air-defence capability to one that carries out offensive and reconnaissance operations far from China`s shores, as well as early warning missions. air strikes. air and missile defence and strategic projection missions. Such a focus is outlined in the defence White Paper and is driving foreign purchases and indigenous development programmes.
中国建立一支先进空军的战略在过去十年取得了相当大的进展，有证据表明，北京是为了满足一些雄心勃勃的目标。这一战略的核心是摆脱以领土为基础的防空，建立一个远离中国海岸，拥有侦察和空战，以及早期预警，空袭，空中和导弹防御和战略投送能力的空军。这一核心是国防白皮书的概括，并推动了外国购买和本土发展项目。
These programmes, which are supported by unprecedented levels of government funding, have resulted in the development of fourth-generation combat aircraft platforms - notably the Shenyang J-11B (based on the Russian Sukhoi Su-27 'Flanker') and the Chengdu J-10 -- which combine new beyond-visual-range and helmet-sighted air-to-air missiles that demonstrate capabilities roughly equivalent to those of US and Japanese platforms. These platforms. which are augmented by Russian aircraft such as the Sukhoi Su-30MKK. are gradually replacing the PLAAF’s second- and third-generation combat aircraft, such as the Shenyang J-8 and the Chengdu .J-7.
这些项目，获得了政府前所未有的拨款支持，已经导致了第四代作战飞机平台的发展，尤其是沈阳J- 11B（基于俄罗斯苏霍伊的Su-27'侧卫'）和成都J- 10（结合了新的超视距和头盔瞄准的空空导弹，其展示的能力大致相当于美国和日本的同类平台）。这些平台包括俄罗斯飞机例如苏霍伊Su- 30MKK，正在逐渐取代解放军空军的第二代和第三代作战飞机，如沈阳J-8和成都J-7。
The speed of China's modernisation is exemplified by the emergence of the so-called fifth-generation Chengdu J-20 aircraft. Images of the J-20. which has clearly been designed with a reduced radar cross-section in mind,first emerged in January 2011 . suggesting that the platform. under development for at least 10 years, is on track to enter PLAAF service before the end of the decade. Another indication of China's commitment to its air force modernisation is the J-l0B: an aircraft that made its first flight in 2009 as a significantly enhanced version of the baseline platform.
中国的现代化速度，在被称为第五代成都J- 20的身上得到了体现。J- 20的照片，首先出现在2011年1月，照片清晰的显示了减少雷达反射面积的设计思想。这表明，该平台结束测试进入中国空军服役，至少还有10年时间。另一个中国空军的现代化标志是J- l0B：在2009年作为基准平台的增强版本进行了首次试飞。
According to Jane's analysis, the proportion of fourth-generation aircraft in service with the PLAAF has increased from 23 per cent in 2005 to 33 per cent in 2010 and is expected to reach about 50 per cent by 20l5. Progress will partly be driven by China's success at developing and producing sufficiently powerful and reliable engines. The J-10 and .J-11 platforms are currently powered by Russian Saturn AL-3lF engines. highlighting a capability gap in China's industrial base, although the PLAAF plans to replace this engine with an indigenously developed WS-10 engine in the future. Such a move could see the eventual requirement for J-10s and J-11s to increase to several hundred platforms.
根据简氏的分析，第四代战机在解放军空军服役的比例已由2005年的23%上升至2010年的33%，预计在2015年将达到约50%。进展将部分取决于中国开发和生产足够强大和可靠的发动机能否成功，J-10和J-11平台目前使用俄罗斯土星的AL-3lF发动机。这突出了一个中国工业基础能力的差距，虽然解放军空军计划在未来用自行研制的WS- 10发动机更换。这一举措可以看为J- 10和J- 11的最终需求将增长到几百架。
China's vast fleet of combat aircraft also includes around 80 improved Xian JH-7A fighter bombers along with about 100 Xian H-6 bombers. which are based on a variant of the Soviet Tupolev Tu- 16 'Badger' . This platform is also thought to have been updated recently. with a new variant reportedly having made its maiden flight in 2007.
中国的庞大机群还包括约80架增强型西安JH- 7A战斗轰炸机以及约100架西安H -6轰炸机（基于对苏联图波列夫T-16'獾'的变种）。该平台也被认为最近已更新。据报道，一个新的变种已在2007年进行首飞。
本菜的一些疑问：
1、严重抗议j8被替换！离大不是说空军看不上飞豹和j10，宁要j8。j8订货比j10多么，可见简氏是睁着眼睛说瞎话，不了解国情，明显没有看到离大“J8系列还要继续长期大量生产下去
”“订单巨大”的论断。
2、严重抗议双重标准！为啥j11B就要在后面备注一个基于su27，H6后面要备注一个基于T16，而j10后面却备注个超视距攻击和头盔瞄准，还说什么展示的能力大致相当于美国和日本的同类平台。明显没有认真学习和贯彻落实离大关于j10与以色列LAVI前世今生的考证，罔顾“事实”，“不学无术”，执行双重标准。
3、严重抗议同工不同酬！j10B怎么会被认为是中国空军现代化的标志，这样的殊荣不是只给了j20吗，凭什么作为同一代机，j10B能踩在j11B和j10的头上。罔顾离大2009年《现代兵器》第一期，不应该装备j10的倡议，该倡议原文：“ 中国目前已经具备独立生产和改进研制重型远程战斗机的能力和条件，那么在空军和海军航空兵已经大量装备第三代重型战斗机苏-27/歼11的情况下，再去发展和装备规格类似、气动布局不同的同类战斗机，如歼10，在经济上和装备上将成为无法接受的浪费。现代战斗机设计过程中不但要考虑飞机本身的性能指标和成本，而且必须明确飞机在现有和未来空中作战力量中的作用。新型战斗机能否融合到整个航空装备体系的发展之中，能做什么和应该做什么，也许是在其发展过程中最难回答的问题。
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《简氏防务周刊》2011年2月16日发表了一篇名为：China sets the tone《中国定调》的文章，全文图片链接：
- http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/read.php?tid=315228&fpage=0&toread=&page=1
部分节选如下：
China sets the toneThe implications of China's unprecedented build-up of air force capabilities, coupled with a palpable increase in self confidence and assertiveness, has been significant for China's near neighbours.
中国空军能力的空前增强，再加上由此显著增加的自信心，一直对中国周边国家产生重大影响。
The People`s Liberation Army Air Force(PLAAF) is recapitalising nearly all aspects of its inventories. focusing on the introduction of hundreds of advanced combat aircraft and the development of force multipliers. The strategy behind the modernisation programme is outlined by China`s defence White Paper. which highlights a transition towards a more offensive stance and capabilities to execute “long-range precision strikes and strategic projection operations".
中国空军（PLAAF）几乎对他的所有资产进行投资，重点是引进数百架先进作战飞机，使其力量成倍增强。现代化计划背后的战略由中国国防白皮书进行概述。其中突出了进攻姿态和逐步具备执行“远程精确打击和战略投送”能力。
As a result of Beijing’s air force strategy. nearly all other countries in the region are procuring. or planning to procure. the latest generation combat aircraft. Australia. Japan,South Korea. Taiwan. Singapore and Malaysia all have major combat aircraft programmes on the horizon, while Indonesia. Thailand. the Philippines and Vietnam are also upgrading their air three capabilities. Efforts to expand force multiplier capabilities - particularly surveillance and airbome early waming and control assets- are intensifying, although for some countries the requirement to upgrade transport resources remains a high priority.
作为北京空军战略的结果，该地区几乎所有其他国家都进行购买或计划购买最新一代作战飞机。澳大利亚、日本、韩国、台湾、新加坡和马来西亚的主要作战飞机项目处在同一水平线上。而印尼、泰国、菲律宾和越南也在更新空军的三种能力，努力扩大力量倍增器，尤其是监测和机载预警和控制的资产在急速增加，尽管有一些国家的要求中，提高运输资源仍然是一个高优先项目。
China
China's efforts to build a strategically advanced air force have made considerable progress over the past decade and evidence suggests that Beijing is on truck to meet some ambitious objectives. Central to this strategy is the move away from a territorial-based air-defence capability to one that carries out offensive and reconnaissance operations far from China`s shores, as well as early warning missions. air strikes. air and missile defence and strategic projection missions. Such a focus is outlined in the defence White Paper and is driving foreign purchases and indigenous development programmes.
中国建立一支先进空军的战略在过去十年取得了相当大的进展，有证据表明，北京是为了满足一些雄心勃勃的目标。这一战略的核心是摆脱以领土为基础的防空，建立一个远离中国海岸，拥有侦察和空战，以及早期预警，空袭，空中和导弹防御和战略投送能力的空军。这一核心是国防白皮书的概括，并推动了外国购买和本土发展项目。
These programmes, which are supported by unprecedented levels of government funding, have resulted in the development of fourth-generation combat aircraft platforms - notably the Shenyang J-11B (based on the Russian Sukhoi Su-27 'Flanker') and the Chengdu J-10 -- which combine new beyond-visual-range and helmet-sighted air-to-air missiles that demonstrate capabilities roughly equivalent to those of US and Japanese platforms. These platforms. which are augmented by Russian aircraft such as the Sukhoi Su-30MKK. are gradually replacing the PLAAF’s second- and third-generation combat aircraft, such as the Shenyang J-8 and the Chengdu .J-7.
这些项目，获得了政府前所未有的拨款支持，已经导致了第四代作战飞机平台的发展，尤其是沈阳J- 11B（基于俄罗斯苏霍伊的Su-27'侧卫'）和成都J- 10（结合了新的超视距和头盔瞄准的空空导弹，其展示的能力大致相当于美国和日本的同类平台）。这些平台包括俄罗斯飞机例如苏霍伊Su- 30MKK，正在逐渐取代解放军空军的第二代和第三代作战飞机，如沈阳J-8和成都J-7。
The speed of China's modernisation is exemplified by the emergence of the so-called fifth-generation Chengdu J-20 aircraft. Images of the J-20. which has clearly been designed with a reduced radar cross-section in mind,first emerged in January 2011 . suggesting that the platform. under development for at least 10 years, is on track to enter PLAAF service before the end of the decade. Another indication of China's commitment to its air force modernisation is the J-l0B: an aircraft that made its first flight in 2009 as a significantly enhanced version of the baseline platform.
中国的现代化速度，在被称为第五代成都J- 20的身上得到了体现。J- 20的照片，首先出现在2011年1月，照片清晰的显示了减少雷达反射面积的设计思想。这表明，该平台结束测试进入中国空军服役，至少还有10年时间。另一个中国空军的现代化标志是J- l0B：在2009年作为基准平台的增强版本进行了首次试飞。
According to Jane's analysis, the proportion of fourth-generation aircraft in service with the PLAAF has increased from 23 per cent in 2005 to 33 per cent in 2010 and is expected to reach about 50 per cent by 20l5. Progress will partly be driven by China's success at developing and producing sufficiently powerful and reliable engines. The J-10 and .J-11 platforms are currently powered by Russian Saturn AL-3lF engines. highlighting a capability gap in China's industrial base, although the PLAAF plans to replace this engine with an indigenously developed WS-10 engine in the future. Such a move could see the eventual requirement for J-10s and J-11s to increase to several hundred platforms.
根据简氏的分析，第四代战机在解放军空军服役的比例已由2005年的23%上升至2010年的33%，预计在2015年将达到约50%。进展将部分取决于中国开发和生产足够强大和可靠的发动机能否成功，J-10和J-11平台目前使用俄罗斯土星的AL-3lF发动机。这突出了一个中国工业基础能力的差距，虽然解放军空军计划在未来用自行研制的WS- 10发动机更换。这一举措可以看为J- 10和J- 11的最终需求将增长到几百架。
China's vast fleet of combat aircraft also includes around 80 improved Xian JH-7A fighter bombers along with about 100 Xian H-6 bombers. which are based on a variant of the Soviet Tupolev Tu- 16 'Badger' . This platform is also thought to have been updated recently. with a new variant reportedly having made its maiden flight in 2007.
中国的庞大机群还包括约80架增强型西安JH- 7A战斗轰炸机以及约100架西安H -6轰炸机（基于对苏联图波列夫T-16'獾'的变种）。该平台也被认为最近已更新。据报道，一个新的变种已在2007年进行首飞。
本菜的一些疑问：
1、严重抗议j8被替换！离大不是说空军看不上飞豹和j10，宁要j8。j8订货比j10多么，可见简氏是睁着眼睛说瞎话，不了解国情，明显没有看到离大“J8系列还要继续长期大量生产下去
”“订单巨大”的论断。
2、严重抗议双重标准！为啥j11B就要在后面备注一个基于su27，H6后面要备注一个基于T16，而j10后面却备注个超视距攻击和头盔瞄准，还说什么展示的能力大致相当于美国和日本的同类平台。明显没有认真学习和贯彻落实离大关于j10与以色列LAVI前世今生的考证，罔顾“事实”，“不学无术”，执行双重标准。
3、严重抗议同工不同酬！j10B怎么会被认为是中国空军现代化的标志，这样的殊荣不是只给了j20吗，凭什么作为同一代机，j10B能踩在j11B和j10的头上。罔顾离大2009年《现代兵器》第一期，不应该装备j10的倡议，该倡议原文：“ 中国目前已经具备独立生产和改进研制重型远程战斗机的能力和条件，那么在空军和海军航空兵已经大量装备第三代重型战斗机苏-27/歼11的情况下，再去发展和装备规格类似、气动布局不同的同类战斗机，如歼10，在经济上和装备上将成为无法接受的浪费。现代战斗机设计过程中不但要考虑飞机本身的性能指标和成本，而且必须明确飞机在现有和未来空中作战力量中的作用。新型战斗机能否融合到整个航空装备体系的发展之中，能做什么和应该做什么，也许是在其发展过程中最难回答的问题。
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我敢说，这个坛子上黑沈飞的人其实对沈飞并无多少成见，有99.99%是被某神棍对沈飞肉麻的一味吹捧给恶心成“沈黑”的。
我是来看文章的………………
兄弟真幽默
诶，又见吵架帖
连JAMES都搬出来了....老外打脸要响一些么
连JAMES都搬出来了....老外打脸要响一些么
到2015才50%的三代机比率。。真低。。不是吧，你确定是简氏？怎么用的鹅毛的分类标准？窃喜一下沙发
随便11.07 发表于 2011-4-10 08:57 
+1
被人恶心成沈黑的多
+1
被人恶心成沈黑的多
gnome2130 发表于 2011-4-10 09:20
你要是知道中国战斗机的总数 就不这么觉得了 （我来测试新头像）
你要是知道中国战斗机的总数 就不这么觉得了 （我来测试新头像）
酱油。。。
话说离子鱼同志已经在不同场合表达了对成飞的景仰之情了，而且飞扬和CD打脸帖也已经够多了，兄弟抬抬贵手，乃准备把他打到其他论坛去吗？毕竟他还是有些料的……
苍狼之舞 发表于 2011-4-10 09:42
现在老美也改成5代划分了吧。
现在老美也改成5代划分了吧。
woodface 发表于 2011-4-10 10:50
哪里看出他对对成飞的景仰之情了
哪里看出他对对成飞的景仰之情了拜托了，人不能不犯错，是吧，哈哈
CD需要宽容的心态嘛
CD需要宽容的心态嘛
modaoru 发表于 2011-4-10 07:55
这么说吧，两者说话你信哪家？
我宁可信简氏
这么说吧，两者说话你信哪家？
我宁可信简氏
老外打脸响一些
有容乃大嘛
某鱼的恶心不需要这么费劲的去证明，他对cf刻骨的痛恨完全淹没了他那微小的中国空军现代化的希望
woodface 发表于 2011-4-10 10:50
首页上经常挂着他黑cf的帖，表达敬意的可是一个没见过
首页上经常挂着他黑cf的帖，表达敬意的可是一个没见过
随便11.07 发表于 2011-4-10 08:57 这应该是真的，兰州应该出现在二楼！
这应该是真的，兰州应该出现在二楼！不知海航的海棍子用的如何了，再等年底棍B真能服役吧，不知换发的条件成熟没，可期待的地方真多哦~~
对于沈飞：怒其不争，哀其不幸，希其奋起，冀其腾飞。
航空的长子，加油!
航空的长子，加油!
玩笑应该适可而止了
这种毫无价值的帖子为何不锁？2楼真相帝
windmind2006 发表于 2011-4-11 11:50
就事论事可以，风吹草动就往人上面扯的，严惩
为什么超大一提到沈飞成飞就吵架？这个几乎成了敏感话题的情况是怎么造成的？谈到SF/CF必吵架，放任这种思维定势形成才是对大家的不负责。
东家生个儿子，立马就嘲笑西家是个闺女
西家二胎生了个儿子，再回头立马嘲笑东家
有些人，就是来逞口舌之快而已。
就事论事可以，风吹草动就往人上面扯的，严惩
为什么超大一提到沈飞成飞就吵架？这个几乎成了敏感话题的情况是怎么造成的？谈到SF/CF必吵架，放任这种思维定势形成才是对大家的不负责。
东家生个儿子，立马就嘲笑西家是个闺女
西家二胎生了个儿子，再回头立马嘲笑东家
有些人，就是来逞口舌之快而已。
这个文章很好，很有收藏价值。
作为北京空军战略的结果，该地区几乎所有其他国家都进行购买或计划购买最新一代作战飞机。
私货永远不缺啊
私货永远不缺啊
10和11怎么会冲突呢，一轻一重
连续两天被扣分，我认错，的确有明显的倾向性，不过很好奇，另一边的倾向性有没有被扣分？
就事论事可以，风吹草动就往人上面扯的，严惩
为什么超大一提到沈飞成飞就吵架？这个几乎成了敏感 ...
angadow 发表于 2011-4-11 12:28
某家的驻CD半官方发言人&护卫队队长如果少给别家的儿子找爹，口水就少很多。。
自己家养的是干儿子，看到别家生儿子就说人家的儿子另外还有个爹，口水怎么会少
就事论事可以，风吹草动就往人上面扯的，严惩
为什么超大一提到沈飞成飞就吵架？这个几乎成了敏感 ...
angadow 发表于 2011-4-11 12:28
某家的驻CD半官方发言人&护卫队队长如果少给别家的儿子找爹，口水就少很多。。
自己家养的是干儿子，看到别家生儿子就说人家的儿子另外还有个爹，口水怎么会少
今年就快到40%了。2015的目标应该是80%才对。
angadow 发表于 2011-4-11 12:28
我比较赞同2楼童子的说法，并不是提到SF\CF就吵架，而是某些人的态度影响了一大批人的态度
SF拿得出手的东东也不少，某种程度上可以说SF是躺着中枪，有点冤。
我比较赞同2楼童子的说法，并不是提到SF\CF就吵架，而是某些人的态度影响了一大批人的态度
SF拿得出手的东东也不少，某种程度上可以说SF是躺着中枪，有点冤。
某家的驻CD半官方发言人&护卫队队长如果少给别家的儿子找爹，口水就少很多。。
自己家养的是干 ...
霏菲飞 发表于 2011-4-11 13:59
+1
并且还拿钱不干事，遭退货的丑闻全世界都晓得了。
某家的驻CD半官方发言人&护卫队队长如果少给别家的儿子找爹，口水就少很多。。
自己家养的是干 ...
霏菲飞 发表于 2011-4-11 13:59
+1
并且还拿钱不干事，遭退货的丑闻全世界都晓得了。
感觉楼主high得有点过头了。
简氏的话有多少可靠程度？？？
离大呢 喊他来喷喷
这帖子由于LZ添加了自己所谓的“疑问”而变得索然无味。。。。。
这样发帖子来找茬的，应该立刻处理，此风必须控制。