超级军网我发现SR71能飞三马赫以上，能隐身是假的，臭鼬工厂糊弄 ...
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有证据的，被我抓了个现行，请看！
俩发动机吊舱离得那么远，不能超巡，三马赫更是胡说。
两发动机舱没和机体融合，不能隐身。
有证据的，被我抓了个现行，请看！
俩发动机吊舱离得那么远，不能超巡，三马赫更是胡说。
两发动机舱没和机体融合，不能隐身。
洛克希德臭鼬鼠工厂的著名飞机设计师凯利·约翰逊(Kelly Johnson)是共谍！他骗了美国空军那么多年。{:jian:}
请lz发影射贴原址
另：有人说过SR71能隐身？谁说的？
另：有人说过SR71能隐身？谁说的？
怎么CD连这样智商的帖子都可以发啊，因该实行智商准入制度
回复 1# 飞行包子
SR-71 只是做了RCSreduction，并不是真正的隐形飞机（可以算隐形机的鼻祖吧）。这个楼猪不会搞不清吧？
StealthThe SR-71 was the first operational aircraft designed around a stealthy shape and materials. There were a number of features in the SR-71 that were designed to reduce its radar signature. The first studies in radar stealth technology seemed to indicate that a shape with flattened, tapering sides would avoid reflecting most radar energy toward the radar beams' place of origin. To this end, the radar engineers suggested adding chines to the design and canting the vertical control surfaces inward. The aircraft also used special radar-absorbing materials which were incorporated into sawtooth shaped sections of the skin of the aircraft, as well as cesium-based fuel additives to reduce the exhaust plumes' visibility on radar. Despite these efforts, the SR-71 was still easily detected on radar while travelling at speed due to its large exhaust stream and air heated by the body (large thermal gradients in the atmosphere are detectable with radar). The SR-71's radar cross section (RCS) was much greater than the later F-117's RCS, which is similar to that of a small ball bearing.[29]
SR-71 只是做了RCSreduction，并不是真正的隐形飞机（可以算隐形机的鼻祖吧）。这个楼猪不会搞不清吧？
StealthThe SR-71 was the first operational aircraft designed around a stealthy shape and materials. There were a number of features in the SR-71 that were designed to reduce its radar signature. The first studies in radar stealth technology seemed to indicate that a shape with flattened, tapering sides would avoid reflecting most radar energy toward the radar beams' place of origin. To this end, the radar engineers suggested adding chines to the design and canting the vertical control surfaces inward. The aircraft also used special radar-absorbing materials which were incorporated into sawtooth shaped sections of the skin of the aircraft, as well as cesium-based fuel additives to reduce the exhaust plumes' visibility on radar. Despite these efforts, the SR-71 was still easily detected on radar while travelling at speed due to its large exhaust stream and air heated by the body (large thermal gradients in the atmosphere are detectable with radar). The SR-71's radar cross section (RCS) was much greater than the later F-117's RCS, which is similar to that of a small ball bearing.[29]
hans的马甲千千万
如果SR-71也是隐形飞机的话，J-10B和SuperHornet也能算：
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealth_aircraft#Reduced_cross_section_designs
Reduced cross section designsChengdu J-10B - "DSI/bump engine inlet which not only cuts weight but also reduces RCS"[22]
SR-71 Blackbird - Skunkworks Blackbirds were first production RCS aircraft; 1962 with CIA A-12, then later with SR-71, YF-12 and M-21 Blackbird series of aircraft
Tu-160 - Russian strategic bomber
Avro Vulcan - British strategic bomber with delta wing and buried engines that gave an unplanned low radar cross-section
B-1B Lancer - RCS to about 10 m2 [23]
Dassault Rafale - RCS to about 0.75 m2[23]
De Havilland Mosquito - British light bomber and ground attack plane of wooden construction, low RCS against early radars.
Eurofighter Typhoon - RCS to about 0.25-0.75 m2[23][citation needed]
F-16 Fighting Falcon C/D and E/F - from Block 30 has got reduced RCS to about 1.2m2[23]
F/A-18 Hornet C/D - reduced RCS, believed be to similar to F-16C's
F/A-18E/F Super Hornet - The F/A-18E/F's radar cross section was reduced greatly from some aspects, mainly the front and rear. RCS to about 0.75 m2[23]
MiG 1.44 - Russian 5th generation fighter prototype
Mikoyan MiG-29K - Due to special coatings Mig-29K radar reflecting surface is 4-5 times smaller than of basic MiG-29. RCS to about 0.60-0.75 m2 [24]
Sukhoi Su-47 - Russian technology demonstrator
Messerschmitt Me 163B rocket-powered fighter aircraft.[25]
PZL-230 Skorpion
LCA(Tejas)[citation needed]
Horten Ho 229 Flying wing turbojet fighter only 10% detected on radar, prototype test in 1944. Project cancelled in 1945 due to the worsening war situation.[26]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealth_aircraft#Reduced_cross_section_designs
Reduced cross section designsChengdu J-10B - "DSI/bump engine inlet which not only cuts weight but also reduces RCS"[22]
SR-71 Blackbird - Skunkworks Blackbirds were first production RCS aircraft; 1962 with CIA A-12, then later with SR-71, YF-12 and M-21 Blackbird series of aircraft
Tu-160 - Russian strategic bomber
Avro Vulcan - British strategic bomber with delta wing and buried engines that gave an unplanned low radar cross-section
B-1B Lancer - RCS to about 10 m2 [23]
Dassault Rafale - RCS to about 0.75 m2[23]
De Havilland Mosquito - British light bomber and ground attack plane of wooden construction, low RCS against early radars.
Eurofighter Typhoon - RCS to about 0.25-0.75 m2[23][citation needed]
F-16 Fighting Falcon C/D and E/F - from Block 30 has got reduced RCS to about 1.2m2[23]
F/A-18 Hornet C/D - reduced RCS, believed be to similar to F-16C's
F/A-18E/F Super Hornet - The F/A-18E/F's radar cross section was reduced greatly from some aspects, mainly the front and rear. RCS to about 0.75 m2[23]
MiG 1.44 - Russian 5th generation fighter prototype
Mikoyan MiG-29K - Due to special coatings Mig-29K radar reflecting surface is 4-5 times smaller than of basic MiG-29. RCS to about 0.60-0.75 m2 [24]
Sukhoi Su-47 - Russian technology demonstrator
Messerschmitt Me 163B rocket-powered fighter aircraft.[25]
PZL-230 Skorpion
LCA(Tejas)[citation needed]
Horten Ho 229 Flying wing turbojet fighter only 10% detected on radar, prototype test in 1944. Project cancelled in 1945 due to the worsening war situation.[26]
黑鸟一般的飞行速度就到2.75马赫，3马赫以上的记录是不锈钢的狐蝠创造的。
隐身么，这么高空高速的飞机当时据说导弹都追不上，隐身设计还是服从了高空高速的要求。
据说啊，SR71飞起来一次，加油机要2架伴飞，加油N次，有时候还需要5-10架加油机，分段多次加油，一次飞行耗费资金1800万美金。不知是否属实？
隐身么，这么高空高速的飞机当时据说导弹都追不上，隐身设计还是服从了高空高速的要求。
据说啊，SR71飞起来一次，加油机要2架伴飞，加油N次，有时候还需要5-10架加油机，分段多次加油，一次飞行耗费资金1800万美金。不知是否属实？
SR-71 只是做了RCSreduction，并不是真正的隐形飞机（可以算隐形机的鼻祖吧）。这个楼猪不会搞不清吧？
SR-71被設計為具有非常小的雷達反射截面（radar cross-section，RCS）
我知道，你是故意模仿WW说话
隐身？？？？激波锥本身就是个超大反射源...
又拿来别人的大S来比自家的芙蓉姐姐了。
战略侦察机，比战斗机，笑死人了。
而且还真是就是个不隐身的玩意...............
隐身？？？？激波锥本身就是个超大反射源...
又拿来别人的大S来比自家的芙蓉姐姐了。
战略侦察机，比战斗机，笑死人了。
而且还真是就是个不隐身的玩意...............
The SR-71's radar cross section (RCS) was much greater than the later F-117's RCS
117和B2是极致追求隐身的机种，SR71不如117很正常，71的俩个裸露的大个子可调进气锥是祸首。
飞行包子 发表于 2011-1-13 14:52 
还是那句话，你来troll一次，我举报一次。顺便说一句，你的发言风格没改利落...
而且版主可以看到你的IP段。;P
芙蓉姐姐某天和大S用了一样的发型/提包，某芙蓉姐姐fans跳出来大吼，你们看，她俩一样漂亮！
还是那句话，你来troll一次，我举报一次。顺便说一句，你的发言风格没改利落...
而且版主可以看到你的IP段。;P
芙蓉姐姐某天和大S用了一样的发型/提包，某芙蓉姐姐fans跳出来大吼，你们看，她俩一样漂亮！
allen-neo 发表于 2011-1-13 14:39
黑鸟在地面会漏油，因此需要空中加油以补充油料，但没听过多次一说，每次出勤维护费高倒是真的。
黑鸟在地面会漏油，因此需要空中加油以补充油料，但没听过多次一说，每次出勤维护费高倒是真的。
回复 9# 飞行包子
楼猪是装傻呢，还是真傻？F-15Silent Eagle隐身要比SR-71这个给苏联雷达探测过N次的悲剧好吧？SilentEagle是五代机ma?
楼猪是装傻呢，还是真傻？F-15Silent Eagle隐身要比SR-71这个给苏联雷达探测过N次的悲剧好吧？SilentEagle是五代机ma?
siegecrossbow 发表于 2011-1-13 15:01
这人是个超级毛粉，已经注册了至少1打ID来超大troll了。我一直在举报，超版一直在封...他依然来注册。
上次我和你提过来troll的都是心理疾病患者，这就是个很好的例子。
昨天估计是看到我的举报贴，把发言前面的---改掉了，但是还有引用的发言习惯。我估计他有一定程度的强迫症。:D
这人是个超级毛粉，已经注册了至少1打ID来超大troll了。我一直在举报，超版一直在封...他依然来注册。
上次我和你提过来troll的都是心理疾病患者，这就是个很好的例子。
昨天估计是看到我的举报贴，把发言前面的---改掉了，但是还有引用的发言习惯。我估计他有一定程度的强迫症。:D
睁大招子好好看看吧：
The overall effectiveness of these designs is still debated; Ben Rich's team could show that the radar return was, in fact, reduced, but Kelly Johnson later conceded that Russian radar technology was advancing faster than the "anti-radar" technology Lockheed was using to counter it.[30] The SR-71 made its debut years before Pyotr Ya. Ufimtsev's ground-breaking research made possible today's stealth technologies, and, despite Lockheed's best efforts, the SR-71 was still easy to track by radar and had a huge infrared signature when cruising at Mach 3.2 or more. It was visible on air traffic control radar for hundreds of miles, even when not using its transponder.[31] SR-71s were evidently detected by radar, as missiles were often fired at them.
The overall effectiveness of these designs is still debated; Ben Rich's team could show that the radar return was, in fact, reduced, but Kelly Johnson later conceded that Russian radar technology was advancing faster than the "anti-radar" technology Lockheed was using to counter it.[30] The SR-71 made its debut years before Pyotr Ya. Ufimtsev's ground-breaking research made possible today's stealth technologies, and, despite Lockheed's best efforts, the SR-71 was still easy to track by radar and had a huge infrared signature when cruising at Mach 3.2 or more. It was visible on air traffic control radar for hundreds of miles, even when not using its transponder.[31] SR-71s were evidently detected by radar, as missiles were often fired at them.
大家注意，某个人形猩猩大改又出来洗地了
不用给他科普，拿战略侦察机和战斗机作对比，显然已经失去了正常人的自我自主思考能力了。:D
回复 16# seele9999
管他有没有病。。。兄弟先让俺打打脸给他送行。
管他有没有病。。。兄弟先让俺打打脸给他送行。
大家请看此人来捣乱的马甲数量和持续时间吧：
本人举报贴之一
http://lt.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=1044941&highlight=
之二
http://lt.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=1051080&highlight=
之三
http://lt.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=1048948&highlight=
之四
http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1051080-1-1.html
之五
http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1051934-1-1.html
这位troll，你真的需要看心理医生了。
大家请看此人来捣乱的马甲数量和持续时间吧：
本人举报贴之一
http://lt.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=1044941&highlight=
之二
http://lt.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=1051080&highlight=
之三
http://lt.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=1048948&highlight=
之四
http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1051080-1-1.html
之五
http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1051934-1-1.html
这位troll，你真的需要看心理医生了。
allen-neo 发表于 2011-1-13 14:39
貌似是因为很多机身油箱在地面会漏油，飞上天之后气动加热膨胀之后才不会怎么漏油，所以要飞行一段时间才空中加油把油箱加满
貌似是因为很多机身油箱在地面会漏油，飞上天之后气动加热膨胀之后才不会怎么漏油，所以要飞行一段时间才空中加油把油箱加满
黑鸟是看得见追不上打不着，f117是追的上打得着看不见
楼猪是装傻呢，还是真傻？F-15Silent Eagle隐身要比SR-71这个给苏联雷达探测过N次的悲剧好吧？SilentEagle是五代机ma?
你说CCCP的长波预警雷达，任何隐身飞机都会被长波的预警雷达发现的，这是常识。谁在装傻呢？{:jian:}
管他有没有病。。。兄弟先让俺打打脸给他送行。
老兄连隐身飞机不能骗过长波雷达都不知道，还打脸。{:jian:}
楼主在指桑骂槐啊{:wugu:}
飞行包子 发表于 2011-1-13 15:15
拿战略侦察机跟战斗机比，你还有脸让别人打？
我对此表示怀疑。{:jian:}
拿战略侦察机跟战斗机比，你还有脸让别人打？
我对此表示怀疑。{:jian:}
SR71从来都不是隐身飞机，他的雷达反射面积还特别大。
黑鸟不是隐身飞机，只是速度快罢了，电视上看过一个MD纪录片，这玩意飞一次机身的什么什么隔热瓦就要全部换一次，MD净造些作孽的玩意~
kknd2011 发表于 2011-1-13 14:25
原帖是白虹那个吧
原帖是白虹那个吧
kknd2011 发表于 2011-1-13 14:55
我了解的也是这样
我了解的也是这样
kknd2011 发表于 2011-1-13 14:55
这个。。。是是，如果对接上了，稳定飞行加油，当然是可以一次到位的，但是你知道黑鸟的最低速度是多少，加油机的最高速度是多少？黑鸟的加油难度有多大？备份鸡算上，你自己考虑一下加油机要多少架才能伺候好一架黑鸟。。。
这个。。。是是，如果对接上了，稳定飞行加油，当然是可以一次到位的，但是你知道黑鸟的最低速度是多少，加油机的最高速度是多少？黑鸟的加油难度有多大？备份鸡算上，你自己考虑一下加油机要多少架才能伺候好一架黑鸟。。。
关于发动机间隔，貌似看见有人说过：要么间隔很小——视为一个，要么很大——没有干扰，那么尾阻就很小。
一个黑鸟要这么多JJ伺候，好幸福
回复 32# allen-neo
如果有条件，请参阅80年代《航空知识》当中专门对黑鸟的介绍文章（那时候的航空知识比现在的好看多了）。黑鸟在低航速下，其发动机工作原理与一般涡喷发动机无异，可以与KC135安全完成空中加油，之后要尽可能快速飞行到3马赫以便热膨胀“封住”油箱，届时发动机才转换为冲压型工作。所谓加油失败需要其他加油机伺候，多见于用软管加油的战机情况（参考“铁处女”）。
如果有条件，请参阅80年代《航空知识》当中专门对黑鸟的介绍文章（那时候的航空知识比现在的好看多了）。黑鸟在低航速下，其发动机工作原理与一般涡喷发动机无异，可以与KC135安全完成空中加油，之后要尽可能快速飞行到3马赫以便热膨胀“封住”油箱，届时发动机才转换为冲压型工作。所谓加油失败需要其他加油机伺候，多见于用软管加油的战机情况（参考“铁处女”）。
回复 35# kknd2011
这个帖子讨论隐形，怎么变成讨论加油了？黑鸟加油难度就在于和加油机的速度相差太大，黑鸟这种布局你看能在低速下长时间飞行么？
其他什么封住油箱不漏油之类的这我懂。。。
这个帖子讨论隐形，怎么变成讨论加油了？黑鸟加油难度就在于和加油机的速度相差太大，黑鸟这种布局你看能在低速下长时间飞行么？
其他什么封住油箱不漏油之类的这我懂。。。
desrong 发表于 2011-1-13 19:19
所以他90年代就幸福的下马了
所以他90年代就幸福的下马了
allen-neo 发表于 2011-1-13 20:22
确实，又跑题了。。。。
要让黑鸟在较低速度下长时间飞行没有问题，他外形本身就是半个升力体。而且黑鸟并不是超音速巡航机型。
确实，又跑题了。。。。
要让黑鸟在较低速度下长时间飞行没有问题，他外形本身就是半个升力体。而且黑鸟并不是超音速巡航机型。
回复 38# kknd2011
较低速度下长时间飞行没有问题。。。您这话可就太亮了。。。
较低速度下长时间飞行没有问题。。。您这话可就太亮了。。。
MD的科技太厉害了，黑鸟现在看来都很科幻。