转贴SC 美军文工团的开销

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这是一个有关美国军队“文工团”(包括军乐队和其他和音乐有关的演出团体)的每年开销的报道。

Military Marching Bands: Your Tax Dollars At Work

The U.S. spends hundreds of millions of dollars each year on dozens of military marching bands, rock groups, jazz ensembles, choruses and country music performance teams. In light of the current economic climate, some are wondering if this is excessive and unnecessary spending. Walter Pincus of the Washington Post has written a series of columns on the cost of military music, and says he was prompted to looking into the matter after hearing Defense Secretary Gates discuss budget priorities.

"Gates has made a point in talking about the way the government looks at priorities," Pincus tells NPR's Robert Siegel. "He has more military band musicians in the Defense Department than the State Department has Foreign Service officers."

This metaphor intrigued Pincus, and he decided to see how many musicians the U.S. government was really employing. He says no one was able to provide concrete figures on how much is spent on military bands in total.
"The only service that came up with a number was the Marines," he says. "And the Marines came back and told me factually that they spend $50 million on their bands. The Army couldn't give me a good figure and they finally estimated $198 million, but they pride themselves on being the biggest employer of musicians in the country — between four and five thousand of them."

According to Pincus' findings, the purpose of Army bands, and those of other branches, is to "provide music throughout the entire spectrum of operations, to instill in our forces the will, to fight and win, foster the support of our citizens, and promote America's interests at home and abroad." But he says this mission has on taken a life of its own.

"They do perform at ceremonies, which of course is understandable, but it's gone way beyond that," he says. "They provide entertainment most often for civilian audiences supposedly to help recruitment."
Pincus' reporting about the cost-effectiveness of military bands has drawn criticism from the military and civilians alike. Col. Michael J. Colburn, director of "The President's Own" United States Marine Band, the oldest military band in the U.S., says Pincus' columns have created a fair amount of discussion within the musicians' community.

"We're not really defensive," Col. Colburn says, "because we don't really feel like we have anything to defend. We consider ourselves to be very careful with the taxpayer's dollar and spend it as wisely as we can."
Col. Colburn recognizes that if belts need to be tightened, military musicians — as part of the Department of Defense — need to be part of that process. However, he says he doesn't think the bands should be up first on the budgetary chopping block.

"[W]e don't really see that military musical expenditures are necessarily in and of themselves wasteful, which is something Mr. Pincus is suggesting in his articles."
这个美国记者在调查在当前经济不景气情况下节省开支的问题,他偶然地开始调查美国军队中军乐队的每年开销问题,他写了以上报道,大意是只有海军陆战队向他提供了确切的数字:每年海军陆战队在内部包括军乐队和其他和音乐有关的演出团体上的花费是5000万美元。美国陆军只提供了一个大约的数字,陆军在这方面每年开支是1。98亿美元。我们不知道海军,空军和海岸警备队在这方面的开支,但我相信美国军队在这方面每年花费不会低于5亿美元。上面这篇报导里面最精彩的是这一句:
According to Pincus' findings, the purpose of Army bands, and those of other branches, is to "provide music throughout the entire spectrum of operations, to instill in our forces the will, to fight and win, foster the support of our citizens, and promote America's interests at home and abroad." But he says this mission has on taken a life of its own.
要向大家指出的一点是相对于美国每年的军费,这5亿美元只是微不足道的一部分,但为什么这让我联想起我国以前那个“皇帝想吃鸡蛋”的故事?
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如果是真花费的也太多了这是一个有关美国军队“文工团”(包括军乐队和其他和音乐有关的演出团体)的每年开销的报道。

Military Marching Bands: Your Tax Dollars At Work

The U.S. spends hundreds of millions of dollars each year on dozens of military marching bands, rock groups, jazz ensembles, choruses and country music performance teams. In light of the current economic climate, some are wondering if this is excessive and unnecessary spending. Walter Pincus of the Washington Post has written a series of columns on the cost of military music, and says he was prompted to looking into the matter after hearing Defense Secretary Gates discuss budget priorities.

"Gates has made a point in talking about the way the government looks at priorities," Pincus tells NPR's Robert Siegel. "He has more military band musicians in the Defense Department than the State Department has Foreign Service officers."

This metaphor intrigued Pincus, and he decided to see how many musicians the U.S. government was really employing. He says no one was able to provide concrete figures on how much is spent on military bands in total.
"The only service that came up with a number was the Marines," he says. "And the Marines came back and told me factually that they spend $50 million on their bands. The Army couldn't give me a good figure and they finally estimated $198 million, but they pride themselves on being the biggest employer of musicians in the country — between four and five thousand of them."

According to Pincus' findings, the purpose of Army bands, and those of other branches, is to "provide music throughout the entire spectrum of operations, to instill in our forces the will, to fight and win, foster the support of our citizens, and promote America's interests at home and abroad." But he says this mission has on taken a life of its own.

"They do perform at ceremonies, which of course is understandable, but it's gone way beyond that," he says. "They provide entertainment most often for civilian audiences supposedly to help recruitment."
Pincus' reporting about the cost-effectiveness of military bands has drawn criticism from the military and civilians alike. Col. Michael J. Colburn, director of "The President's Own" United States Marine Band, the oldest military band in the U.S., says Pincus' columns have created a fair amount of discussion within the musicians' community.

"We're not really defensive," Col. Colburn says, "because we don't really feel like we have anything to defend. We consider ourselves to be very careful with the taxpayer's dollar and spend it as wisely as we can."
Col. Colburn recognizes that if belts need to be tightened, military musicians — as part of the Department of Defense — need to be part of that process. However, he says he doesn't think the bands should be up first on the budgetary chopping block.

"[W]e don't really see that military musical expenditures are necessarily in and of themselves wasteful, which is something Mr. Pincus is suggesting in his articles."
这个美国记者在调查在当前经济不景气情况下节省开支的问题,他偶然地开始调查美国军队中军乐队的每年开销问题,他写了以上报道,大意是只有海军陆战队向他提供了确切的数字:每年海军陆战队在内部包括军乐队和其他和音乐有关的演出团体上的花费是5000万美元。美国陆军只提供了一个大约的数字,陆军在这方面每年开支是1。98亿美元。我们不知道海军,空军和海岸警备队在这方面的开支,但我相信美国军队在这方面每年花费不会低于5亿美元。上面这篇报导里面最精彩的是这一句:
According to Pincus' findings, the purpose of Army bands, and those of other branches, is to "provide music throughout the entire spectrum of operations, to instill in our forces the will, to fight and win, foster the support of our citizens, and promote America's interests at home and abroad." But he says this mission has on taken a life of its own.
要向大家指出的一点是相对于美国每年的军费,这5亿美元只是微不足道的一部分,但为什么这让我联想起我国以前那个“皇帝想吃鸡蛋”的故事?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thereco ... tary-marching-bands
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http://www.sbanzu.com/topicdispl ... 385&BoardID=190


如果是真花费的也太多了
那是你没看到天朝在这上面的花费  我指的是占军费的比例


才5亿美元。
TG的总政、海政、空政、二炮、七大军区的话剧团、歌舞团、乐团……以及各下属集团军、舰队、基地的“业余演出队”(就是名义上不占编制的普通军人,实际上特招来的)
还有各政工系统内的文艺专业出身的女军官……{:yi:}
这些人按级别排一排,相当于师级和军级的军官(文职干部)估计能装备一个军区
最让我不爽的是,还有很多地方的文艺界大腕再不断挤进来{:se:}
而以我在基层十几年的经历,这些“服务基层”的“文艺工作者”我一次没见过。{:wugu:}遇到逢年过节领导高兴,还得我们自己“自编自演”{:lei:}


我承认,我上楼主当了。一想到这个问题,我就想骂娘。大国庆的,多不好。
窃以为:TG军队最需要裁编的,就是这些人!

才5亿美元。
TG的总政、海政、空政、二炮、七大军区的话剧团、歌舞团、乐团……以及各下属集团军、舰队、基地的“业余演出队”(就是名义上不占编制的普通军人,实际上特招来的)
还有各政工系统内的文艺专业出身的女军官……{:yi:}
这些人按级别排一排,相当于师级和军级的军官(文职干部)估计能装备一个军区
最让我不爽的是,还有很多地方的文艺界大腕再不断挤进来{:se:}
而以我在基层十几年的经历,这些“服务基层”的“文艺工作者”我一次没见过。{:wugu:}遇到逢年过节领导高兴,还得我们自己“自编自演”{:lei:}


我承认,我上楼主当了。一想到这个问题,我就想骂娘。大国庆的,多不好。
窃以为:TG军队最需要裁编的,就是这些人!
宝剑橡叶骑士 发表于 2010-10-1 10:19

中国的文工团应该是赚钱的吧
5亿,很省
coolkeair 发表于 2010-10-1 10:21


    是赚,叫外快,那是自己和领导,还有集体的。你还指望文工团补贴军费!?
要是能补贴也不错,美女还是很多的;P我愿意掏钱消费
coolkeair 发表于 2010-10-1 10:21


    没有上交国库,也没有变成军费
美国军队中军乐队和文工团是一回事吗?
天朝也有军乐队
宝剑橡叶骑士 发表于 2010-10-1 10:19

{:wuyu:}算了吧,兄弟,你以为文工团人有很多嘛?一个一两个小时的晚会,就那么十几二十个人在那演的……就看到那些MM一直在上台下台换衣服的循环
青云缺月 发表于 2010-10-1 12:51


   可惜,看不到啊,你很有眼福?
我没拿小兵说事,伴舞的等等是很幸苦的,基层的“业余演出队”累的晕倒我也见过。大家不爽的是穿军装的大腕。还有传说中的“文职将军”——虽然这是误会,但老百姓就这么误会了:“看!唱歌跳舞也能当将军!”
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