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就是老问题了 很多精蝇都拿 外国防盗门差来当好事宣传
我觉得不管治安好不好 自己家门厚那是理所应当的
不过说实话美国暴力犯罪率好像不低 为什么看电影或者其他媒介 介绍的 美国人家的自我安防那么差？ 真的不怕被人入室灭门？就是老问题了 很多精蝇都拿 外国防盗门差来当好事宣传
我觉得不管治安好不好 自己家门厚那是理所应当的
不过说实话美国暴力犯罪率好像不低 为什么看电影或者其他媒介 介绍的 美国人家的自我安防那么差？ 真的不怕被人入室灭门？
我觉得不管治安好不好 自己家门厚那是理所应当的
不过说实话美国暴力犯罪率好像不低 为什么看电影或者其他媒介 介绍的 美国人家的自我安防那么差？ 真的不怕被人入室灭门？就是老问题了 很多精蝇都拿 外国防盗门差来当好事宣传
我觉得不管治安好不好 自己家门厚那是理所应当的
不过说实话美国暴力犯罪率好像不低 为什么看电影或者其他媒介 介绍的 美国人家的自我安防那么差？ 真的不怕被人入室灭门？
枕头底下压左轮，床头柜里放喷子，防盗门就不算啥了
糯米仓牛 发表于 2010-8-12 09:53 
因为如擅入私人领地打死你没商量
因为如擅入私人领地打死你没商量
qianjizhao 发表于 2010-8-12 18:03
哦 实际上屋主死得更多
哦 实际上屋主死得更多
防盗门防的住贼，防不住盗啊。
美国入室就有被打死的危险，所以小偷大多改行为盗，明火执杖了，防盗门也就没什么作用了。
美国入室就有被打死的危险，所以小偷大多改行为盗，明火执杖了，防盗门也就没什么作用了。
英国这边居住区房子虽然很旧但是隐形的联网报警系统还有感应照明系统什么的家家户户都装，有个风吹草动警察叔叔就来了，估计美国也是一样的吧？
曾经有过擅闯私人地盘被打死后凶手当庭释放的先例，lz您自己看着办吧
汝儿乃我 发表于 2010-8-13 04:05
我只是问点认真的问题 你那么爱抓住点这种东西 乱喊随便你了
你还真当自己是武林高手啊 我看就是给你打死罪犯 你十有八九也是被打死的料
没事就知道胡蛮烂扯
我只是问点认真的问题 你那么爱抓住点这种东西 乱喊随便你了
你还真当自己是武林高手啊 我看就是给你打死罪犯 你十有八九也是被打死的料
没事就知道胡蛮烂扯
不知道有保险这码事吗
糯米仓牛 发表于 2010-8-13 05:13
别人哪说错了？
倒是lz除了你自己想听到的东西别的啥都觉得是造谣
这是病，得治
武林高手？
那个10岁还是几岁小女孩用shootgun轰死2个入室行窃的成年盗贼可不是假的
别把人家美国国民性想得也如后清顺民般怯弱
别人哪说错了？
倒是lz除了你自己想听到的东西别的啥都觉得是造谣
这是病，得治
武林高手？
那个10岁还是几岁小女孩用shootgun轰死2个入室行窃的成年盗贼可不是假的
别把人家美国国民性想得也如后清顺民般怯弱
以中国人的性格确实不好去揣摩扬基的想法
那帮子蛮夷骨子里的拓荒者精神还没消磨完；尚武精神和竞争意识强烈
对抗性不高的竞技项目在美国都发展不起来
那帮子蛮夷骨子里的拓荒者精神还没消磨完；尚武精神和竞争意识强烈
对抗性不高的竞技项目在美国都发展不起来
美国犯罪率最高的是纽约，洛杉矶这样的大城市，因为流动人口多，城区庞大而且建筑多，犯了事往地铁和街巷里面一钻，警察根本就追不上，而美国中小城市和城镇，人口少，公路交通发达，地方就那么大，一发生罪案，警察和治安官一围过来，跑都没得跑，而且像偷盗，斗殴，身体冲撞，吵架这类在中国也就是治安管理行为，美国是和杀人，抢劫，强奸一样列入罪案统计，所以很多人一看统计，就觉得：哗，美国治安好差哦。
实际上，除了几个大城市，美国大多数地区治安比国内还好，入室抢劫之类极少，防盗门之类根本就用不上。
而且能入室灭门的都是属于黑道上的狠角色了，美国，犯罪分子要搞到黑枪容易得很，而且炸药之类化工品是可以合法买到的，真要玩灭门，在自动步枪，机枪还有炸药面前，防盗门有和没有，你觉得有区别么。
美国犯罪率最高的是纽约，洛杉矶这样的大城市，因为流动人口多，城区庞大而且建筑多，犯了事往地铁和街巷里面一钻，警察根本就追不上，而美国中小城市和城镇，人口少，公路交通发达，地方就那么大，一发生罪案，警察和治安官一围过来，跑都没得跑，而且像偷盗，斗殴，身体冲撞，吵架这类在中国也就是治安管理行为，美国是和杀人，抢劫，强奸一样列入罪案统计，所以很多人一看统计，就觉得：哗，美国治安好差哦。
实际上，除了几个大城市，美国大多数地区治安比国内还好，入室抢劫之类极少，防盗门之类根本就用不上。
而且能入室灭门的都是属于黑道上的狠角色了，美国，犯罪分子要搞到黑枪容易得很，而且炸药之类化工品是可以合法买到的，真要玩灭门，在自动步枪，机枪还有炸药面前，防盗门有和没有，你觉得有区别么。
决不后退 发表于 2010-8-13 12:54
这种都市传说还真是听下就好
Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez 23 and Enrico Garza 26,
probably believed they would easily overpower a home alone 11 year
old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two story
home.
It seems the two crooks never learned two things, they were in
Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was
nine. Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke
through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's
room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun.
Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the
first to catch a near point blank blast of buck shot from the 11
year olds knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen
and genitals. When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a
blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where
he bled to death before medical help could arrive.
It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a stolen 45
caliber handgun he took from another home invasion robbery. The
victim, 50 year old David Burien, was not so lucky as he died from
stab wounds to the chest.
Origins: The
above-quoted story about two armed illegal aliens killed during an
attempted home invasion by an 11-year shotgun-wielding girl was posted to
LibertyPost.org on 25 April 2007. Although the account is being widely
cited as a validation of anti-illegal immigration and/or pro-gun ownership
positions, confirmation of the tale as a real-life incident is lacking.
The only documentation for this item appears to be numerous web sites all
citing the same information, with no details of time or place (other than
a reference to Montana). Searches of news databases (including
Montana-based newspapers) fail to turn up any corresponding news stories
containing any of the four names provided and the name of one of the
putative criminals ("Ralphel Resendez") just happens to echo an alias
(Raphael Resendez-Ramirez) used by Angel Maturino Resendiz (also an
illegal alien), the infamous "Railroad Killer."
Although many versions of this item cite the home invasion incident as
having taken place in Butte, Montana, that area's sheriff has said no such
thing occurred in that city:
When asked about the authenticity of the events described in this story,
Butte-Silver Bow Sheriff John Walsh told The Montana Standard that his
office never investigated such an incident.
"This never happened," Walsh said.
The story claims the girl shot and killed the two intruders while she was
home alone. The story doesn't provide a street address or attribute the
information to any official sources.
Walsh brushed off the story as an urban myth.
"It's amazing how these things get around," he said.
The only news story (of recent vintage) we could turn up about a minor
using a shotgun to kill two armed intruders attempting a home invasion
robbery took place in December 2006 and involved a 17-year-old boy in
Texas (rather than an 11-year-old girl in Montana):
An overnight home invasion robbery attempt in northeast Harris County
ended in a hail of gunfire that left two suspects dead.
Investigators said a 17-year-old was home with his cousin when four armed
men kicked in the door and started shooting.
The teen pulled out a shotgun of his own and fired back at the suspects,
killing two of them.
Going back almost twenty years to 1988, we do find a news story about an
11-year-old shooting and killing two home intruders, but again the finer
details don't quite match the example cited above:
Switzer, S.C. ?An 11-year-old boy who had been left alone after school
shot and killed two men as they tried to steal a videocassette recorder
from his family's home, police said.
William Todd Knight, the son of Billy and Ann Knight, "acted very wisely,"
said Spartanburg County Coroner Jim Burnett. "His life was in danger, he
looked for an escape and could not find one ... he was a very brave young
man."
Spartanburg County Sheriff's Department Capt. John Blackwood said the boy
was watching cartoons in his parents' bedroom Monday afternoon when he
heard noises at the front door of the family's brick, ranch-style home.
Todd told officers he was scared, so he went to his room for the
.22-caliber rifle his father had given him for Christmas and loaded four
rounds.
He then went to the front door and saw a man he described as "rough"
pounding on the door. The man finally left in a white Datsun.
Todd said he resumed watching cartoons and about 10 minutes later heard
banging, this time at a dining room window.
He saw two men climbing through the dining room window. The boy said he
went into the bathroom to climb out the window, but saw the white Datsun
was parked in the back yard.
Todd told police he went back to the hallway, peeked around the corner
into the den and was spotted by one of the intruders as they were taking
the VCR.
Todd then fired three rounds at the men, who dropped the VCR and fled.
When police arrived, one of the dead men was found face down next to a
woodpile in the back yard, approximately 50 to 75 feet from the house,
while the second man was in the driver's seat of the white two-door
Datsun.
这种都市传说还真是听下就好
Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez 23 and Enrico Garza 26,
probably believed they would easily overpower a home alone 11 year
old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two story
home.
It seems the two crooks never learned two things, they were in
Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was
nine. Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke
through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's
room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun.
Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the
first to catch a near point blank blast of buck shot from the 11
year olds knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen
and genitals. When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a
blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where
he bled to death before medical help could arrive.
It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a stolen 45
caliber handgun he took from another home invasion robbery. The
victim, 50 year old David Burien, was not so lucky as he died from
stab wounds to the chest.
Origins: The
above-quoted story about two armed illegal aliens killed during an
attempted home invasion by an 11-year shotgun-wielding girl was posted to
LibertyPost.org on 25 April 2007. Although the account is being widely
cited as a validation of anti-illegal immigration and/or pro-gun ownership
positions, confirmation of the tale as a real-life incident is lacking.
The only documentation for this item appears to be numerous web sites all
citing the same information, with no details of time or place (other than
a reference to Montana). Searches of news databases (including
Montana-based newspapers) fail to turn up any corresponding news stories
containing any of the four names provided and the name of one of the
putative criminals ("Ralphel Resendez") just happens to echo an alias
(Raphael Resendez-Ramirez) used by Angel Maturino Resendiz (also an
illegal alien), the infamous "Railroad Killer."
Although many versions of this item cite the home invasion incident as
having taken place in Butte, Montana, that area's sheriff has said no such
thing occurred in that city:
When asked about the authenticity of the events described in this story,
Butte-Silver Bow Sheriff John Walsh told The Montana Standard that his
office never investigated such an incident.
"This never happened," Walsh said.
The story claims the girl shot and killed the two intruders while she was
home alone. The story doesn't provide a street address or attribute the
information to any official sources.
Walsh brushed off the story as an urban myth.
"It's amazing how these things get around," he said.
The only news story (of recent vintage) we could turn up about a minor
using a shotgun to kill two armed intruders attempting a home invasion
robbery took place in December 2006 and involved a 17-year-old boy in
Texas (rather than an 11-year-old girl in Montana):
An overnight home invasion robbery attempt in northeast Harris County
ended in a hail of gunfire that left two suspects dead.
Investigators said a 17-year-old was home with his cousin when four armed
men kicked in the door and started shooting.
The teen pulled out a shotgun of his own and fired back at the suspects,
killing two of them.
Going back almost twenty years to 1988, we do find a news story about an
11-year-old shooting and killing two home intruders, but again the finer
details don't quite match the example cited above:
Switzer, S.C. ?An 11-year-old boy who had been left alone after school
shot and killed two men as they tried to steal a videocassette recorder
from his family's home, police said.
William Todd Knight, the son of Billy and Ann Knight, "acted very wisely,"
said Spartanburg County Coroner Jim Burnett. "His life was in danger, he
looked for an escape and could not find one ... he was a very brave young
man."
Spartanburg County Sheriff's Department Capt. John Blackwood said the boy
was watching cartoons in his parents' bedroom Monday afternoon when he
heard noises at the front door of the family's brick, ranch-style home.
Todd told officers he was scared, so he went to his room for the
.22-caliber rifle his father had given him for Christmas and loaded four
rounds.
He then went to the front door and saw a man he described as "rough"
pounding on the door. The man finally left in a white Datsun.
Todd said he resumed watching cartoons and about 10 minutes later heard
banging, this time at a dining room window.
He saw two men climbing through the dining room window. The boy said he
went into the bathroom to climb out the window, but saw the white Datsun
was parked in the back yard.
Todd told police he went back to the hallway, peeked around the corner
into the den and was spotted by one of the intruders as they were taking
the VCR.
Todd then fired three rounds at the men, who dropped the VCR and fled.
When police arrived, one of the dead men was found face down next to a
woodpile in the back yard, approximately 50 to 75 feet from the house,
while the second man was in the driver's seat of the white two-door
Datsun.
以美国大多数地区治安，防盗门根本就用不上，而且有事的话，警察或者治安官很快就会赶来，要这玩意做甚？
对大多数美国家庭来说，野生动物比犯罪分子可怕多了，加州球场发现过鳄鱼，居民后院有蟒蛇出没，还有不少案例是黑熊直接闯入居民家中找食物吃然后伤人的，最悲剧的还是有人在早上跑步时碰到熊，随身的格洛克-17打光一个弹夹之后，被发怒的熊直接吃掉了，还有小孩在游泳时被鳄鱼袭击，最后逃回一条命的。
与其担心N年都碰不到一次的罪犯，野生动物才是更危险的。
对大多数美国家庭来说，野生动物比犯罪分子可怕多了，加州球场发现过鳄鱼，居民后院有蟒蛇出没，还有不少案例是黑熊直接闯入居民家中找食物吃然后伤人的，最悲剧的还是有人在早上跑步时碰到熊，随身的格洛克-17打光一个弹夹之后，被发怒的熊直接吃掉了，还有小孩在游泳时被鳄鱼袭击，最后逃回一条命的。
与其担心N年都碰不到一次的罪犯，野生动物才是更危险的。
北美除了某些大城市的部分区域,绝大部分地方治安好得很.
我在加拿大美国住了十年了,从来没有被偷过包,没有被抢过钱.
刚到加拿大的时候租中国同胞的房子住,几个人住一个地库,大门经常不锁.就是夜不闭户.
我在加拿大美国住了十年了,从来没有被偷过包,没有被抢过钱.
刚到加拿大的时候租中国同胞的房子住,几个人住一个地库,大门经常不锁.就是夜不闭户.
安德罗波夫 发表于 2010-8-13 13:21
哦 但你也知道 即便对于野生动物 其实你整个范围管理 圈定的好 一般野生动物也不会入侵的
这不止是防盗门的问题 还有小区 保安 这类问题
就算不说大多数地方吧 拿你说的北美最糟糕的城市 我看到的貌似也是没保安 没防盗门 那不是放着被杀？
而且不止美国 貌似墨西哥等 非中国国家 住宅也是这个模式？
哦 但你也知道 即便对于野生动物 其实你整个范围管理 圈定的好 一般野生动物也不会入侵的
这不止是防盗门的问题 还有小区 保安 这类问题
就算不说大多数地方吧 拿你说的北美最糟糕的城市 我看到的貌似也是没保安 没防盗门 那不是放着被杀？
而且不止美国 貌似墨西哥等 非中国国家 住宅也是这个模式？
兰州的马甲都进化到牛了，下会换马甲用什么？狗？羊？驴？马？
决不后退 发表于 2010-8-13 12:54
你这种烂传闻先不说了 最烦你这种 东扯西扯的玩意了
前两年我们这抓贼还把贼打得半死 屁事没有 别老拿网上别的案例 来掩饰你自己的无能
给你把枪 你也是先手被打死的命
还有 你告诉我 如果屋主 不在 自卫个毛 ？ 你一天24小时 守家里？ 不过你这种宅男 可能确实是这样
你这种烂传闻先不说了 最烦你这种 东扯西扯的玩意了
前两年我们这抓贼还把贼打得半死 屁事没有 别老拿网上别的案例 来掩饰你自己的无能
给你把枪 你也是先手被打死的命
还有 你告诉我 如果屋主 不在 自卫个毛 ？ 你一天24小时 守家里？ 不过你这种宅男 可能确实是这样
不安防盗门就等于无所谓自家安保，为这个逻辑捞一分
湘军统领 发表于 2010-8-15 09:36
我只是 拿防盗门举一个例子而已 不用死抓着不放
我只是 拿防盗门举一个例子而已 不用死抓着不放
出于消防安全的考虑，国内那种防盗门在美国就不合法，你让人家如何安装。
糯米仓牛 发表于 2010-8-15 09:53
那为你举的这个例子捞一分
那为你举的这个例子捞一分
不过看美剧里也有那种一扇门上好几把锁，形容那种没有安全感的一扇门上可以装5-6把锁，开个门要从上到下开近一分钟.....
所以很多人一看统计，就觉得：哗，美国治安好差哦。
实际感受也一样，就是好差哦，而且管理死角多，至少在纽约。和京上广深比。
可能没有某些人说得那么邪乎，但总体感觉就是一个字——差——与其经济发展水平极不相称。
实际感受也一样，就是好差哦，而且管理死角多，至少在纽约。和京上广深比。
可能没有某些人说得那么邪乎，但总体感觉就是一个字——差——与其经济发展水平极不相称。
在那地头呆过n年的飘过。MD大城市基本上归贫下中农了，所以一旦手头紧，立马考虑用‘革命手段’解决‘筹款问题’。家家户户都装了防盗窗，就是怕‘革命’革到自己头上，为此而备。
小城镇反而松懈，基本不设防。
一直没有听说MD那地头有扒手，要来就来硬抢。
在那地头呆过n年的飘过。MD大城市基本上归贫下中农了，所以一旦手头紧，立马考虑用‘革命手段’解决‘筹款问题’。家家户户都装了防盗窗，就是怕‘革命’革到自己头上，为此而备。
小城镇反而松懈，基本不设防。
一直没有听说MD那地头有扒手，要来就来硬抢。
中国农村地区和平房区也没有几家有防盗门，公寓中美基本上都是铁门吧！
美国大多数地区治安比国内还好
bigbluetooth 发表于 2011-8-21 06:50 
……所以很多人一看统计，就觉得：哗，美国治安好差哦。
实际感受也一样，就是好差哦，而且管理死角多 ...
举啥不好，拿纽约来比，美国治安最差就是大城市，而且大城市里纽约还算好的，底特律才是最差的，除了大城市以外，中小城镇治安非常好。
……所以很多人一看统计，就觉得：哗，美国治安好差哦。
实际感受也一样，就是好差哦，而且管理死角多 ...
举啥不好，拿纽约来比，美国治安最差就是大城市，而且大城市里纽约还算好的，底特律才是最差的，除了大城市以外，中小城镇治安非常好。
老农 发表于 2011-8-22 13:30
在那地头呆过n年的飘过。MD大城市基本上归贫下中农了，所以一旦手头紧，立马考虑用‘革命手段’解决‘筹款问 ...
纽约之类大城市就不要提了，不是我岐视黑人和老墨，凡是这两类人多的地方，治安就差得一塌胡涂，倒是中小城镇治安非常好。
在那地头呆过n年的飘过。MD大城市基本上归贫下中农了，所以一旦手头紧，立马考虑用‘革命手段’解决‘筹款问 ...
纽约之类大城市就不要提了，不是我岐视黑人和老墨，凡是这两类人多的地方，治安就差得一塌胡涂，倒是中小城镇治安非常好。
安德罗波夫 发表于 2011-8-24 10:33
纽约之类大城市就不要提了，不是我岐视黑人和老墨，凡是这两类人多的地方，治安就差得一塌胡涂，倒是中小 ...
我就讨厌一种人：
1、种族主义者。
2、黑鬼和有色人种。
纽约之类大城市就不要提了，不是我岐视黑人和老墨，凡是这两类人多的地方，治安就差得一塌胡涂，倒是中小 ...
我就讨厌一种人：
1、种族主义者。
2、黑鬼和有色人种。
据我一个经常去美国做生意的朋友说，美国的盗贼很少，基本上都是直接靠抢的。当然了可能与他去的城市有关。
全无畏惧 发表于 2011-8-24 10:43
我就讨厌一种人：
1、种族主义者。
这回复，太亮了
我就讨厌一种人：
1、种族主义者。
这回复，太亮了
全无畏惧 发表于 2011-8-24 10:43
我就讨厌一种人：
1、种族主义者。
您这不是原版。原版是
我就讨厌两种人：
1、种族主义者。
2、黑鬼和有色人种。
3、不识数的人
我就讨厌一种人：
1、种族主义者。
您这不是原版。原版是
我就讨厌两种人：
1、种族主义者。
2、黑鬼和有色人种。
3、不识数的人
黑鬼混混到白人高尚社区晃悠看看，有木有警察来找茬...
神马？还有贫民窟？贫民窟里面的犯罪跟警察局的拨款有很大关系吗？
神马？还有贫民窟？贫民窟里面的犯罪跟警察局的拨款有很大关系吗？
美国人家里都装的是防盗门窗啊，楼主，防盗门窗又不都是中国这种不锈钢式的。
美国的门窗，一般都装有电子监控、报警系统，都是防盗门。
美国的门窗，一般都装有电子监控、报警系统，都是防盗门。
美国人不用防盗门，是因为他们用更高级的玩意儿。
美国的治安状况，“大多数”这个词要慎用
不同的州情况大不相同
不同的州情况大不相同
前几年看美国电影，一看那里的家家都不安防盗门窗，心里一激动好了生意来了，到美国去做防盗门窗的生意去，今天听各位老大一讲完了。
全无畏惧 发表于 2011-8-24 10:43
我就讨厌一种人：
1、种族主义者。
您自己是什么肤色的？
我就讨厌一种人：
1、种族主义者。
您自己是什么肤色的？
美国人家里可是有家伙的。
况且你去偷别人家里。地形上就吃亏。。。
况且你去偷别人家里。地形上就吃亏。。。