JSF和C17今天在奥巴马手下小小的悲剧了一下...

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President Obama repeated Friday that he would veto a defense policy bill if it includes funding for military jet programs — the JSF second engine and the C-17 — that he and Defense Secretary Robert Gates have said should be cut to save money.

“Our military does not want or need these programs being pushed by the Congress, and should Congress ignore this fact, I will veto any such legislation so that it can be returned to me without those provisions,” Obama said in a statement.

The House passed a bill late Friday afternoon that includes the JSF funding as well as a repeal of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

Obama’s full statement:
"As the Congress continues its work on funding bills for the Department of Defense, I want to reiterate my strong support for the reforms Secretary Gates is advancing at the Pentagon. He has kept me fully apprised of his efforts to reform how our military operates and bring needed efficiencies to the Department of Defense. I stand squarely behind Secretary Gates' position on the JSF second engine and C-17 programs. As the Statement of Administration Policy made clear, our military does not want or need these programs being pushed by the Congress, and should Congress ignore this fact, I will veto any such legislation so that it can be returned to me without those provisions."


基本上是这样的, 国会要拨款给JSF和C17, 但是盖茨领导的国防部认为这些拨款对于当前军队建设无益.
于是这次奥巴马亲自出面,声称只要国会通过对这两项工程的拨款, 就会动用否决权.
但是国会却把这两项工程的项目拨款和军队收回其实同性恋的法案放在了一起搞一揽子通过...因为美国总统没有line-item veto(选择性否决)的权力, 因此很可能需要连着同性恋法案一起否决. 但是因为国会有2/3赞成的时候就可以否决总统的否决权, 所以支持这两个项目的议员希望拉住支持收回同性恋歧视性条款的议员一起否决奥巴马的否决权...太tnnd绕口了.{:3_92:}

http://www.politico.com/politico ... 6-6cc36d515b2e.htmlPresident Obama repeated Friday that he would veto a defense policy bill if it includes funding for military jet programs — the JSF second engine and the C-17 — that he and Defense Secretary Robert Gates have said should be cut to save money.

“Our military does not want or need these programs being pushed by the Congress, and should Congress ignore this fact, I will veto any such legislation so that it can be returned to me without those provisions,” Obama said in a statement.

The House passed a bill late Friday afternoon that includes the JSF funding as well as a repeal of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

Obama’s full statement:
"As the Congress continues its work on funding bills for the Department of Defense, I want to reiterate my strong support for the reforms Secretary Gates is advancing at the Pentagon. He has kept me fully apprised of his efforts to reform how our military operates and bring needed efficiencies to the Department of Defense. I stand squarely behind Secretary Gates' position on the JSF second engine and C-17 programs. As the Statement of Administration Policy made clear, our military does not want or need these programs being pushed by the Congress, and should Congress ignore this fact, I will veto any such legislation so that it can be returned to me without those provisions."


基本上是这样的, 国会要拨款给JSF和C17, 但是盖茨领导的国防部认为这些拨款对于当前军队建设无益.
于是这次奥巴马亲自出面,声称只要国会通过对这两项工程的拨款, 就会动用否决权.
但是国会却把这两项工程的项目拨款和军队收回其实同性恋的法案放在了一起搞一揽子通过...因为美国总统没有line-item veto(选择性否决)的权力, 因此很可能需要连着同性恋法案一起否决. 但是因为国会有2/3赞成的时候就可以否决总统的否决权, 所以支持这两个项目的议员希望拉住支持收回同性恋歧视性条款的议员一起否决奥巴马的否决权...太tnnd绕口了.{:3_92:}

http://www.politico.com/politico ... 6-6cc36d515b2e.html
汗个······

这玩意在米国的地位居然还不如同性恋??


PS:百合大好 BL去死1·
国会太坏了,附加流氓条款啊
就是,太无聊了
冰刃 发表于 2010-5-29 09:17

政治是无比玄妙的...

那么多选票在那里
这叫组合方案.看观海同志怎么搞定{:wuyu:}
要顶住,和平奖先生
MD内部利益集团的争夺而已,这边给了钱,另一边自然就没钱了。
manjiayi 发表于 2010-5-29 10:09


    发上来就是为了让大家接触一下美国的内部斗争模式
利益之争。。。
这就是bug啊,分开了就能否决,合起来就否决不了了
高呼:百合天道!BL去死!

算了,其实我是打酱油的。
观海同志泪奔了吧?!:');funk
我怎么记得总统曾经拿到过部分否决权来着?

又被国会收回去了?
观海同志身不由己啊。
估计老美现在手头紧,银子不够啊
cp3forever 发表于 2010-5-29 09:21

这叫有茬大家找!!{:jian:}
还是老毛子比较牛啊
总统不爽  直接解散杜马
請看清楚,是波音悲劇,不是jsf悲劇,c-17項目不過是讓騾馬也悲劇來平衡波音的悲劇
悲劇個啥

米國再悲劇

飛濺都比我們多我們好
印象中一般是政府想采购某种武器,国会不拨款,这次怎么成了政府不想买,国会非要拨款?钱多的没地方花了?
littlehui 发表于 2010-5-29 12:17


    悲剧的是JSF的第二个发动机,是GE和RR的悲剧,和骡马毫无关系。
流氓国家出现流氓条款太正常不过了
大林 发表于 2010-5-29 12:30

钱这东西,给了这个,别人就没有。

国会想买飞机,为啥?能增进就业,增加税收,增加选票。。。。。。这么做好处更多的在国内和议会。

军队不想买飞机,为啥?前线更需要的是防雷车等东西。没有上面这点飞机,美空军照样最强。而没有了前线急需的装备,伤亡是马上看的见的。。。。。。。这么做好处更多的在前线。
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目前的斗争形式,美国国会又把前面的大兵给卖了。
赫赫,太好玩了。

美国国会要打包,把三样东西一起塞给军队: JSF、 C17和同性恋。

而美国军队唯一想要的,居然是:同性恋。。。。。。。。。:D:D:D:D
LZ的ID杯具了。。
the JSF second engine and the C-17 — that he and Defense Secretary Robert Gates have said should be cut to save money.
LZ啥眼神啊??还JSF悲剧
wangpeng0207 发表于 2010-5-29 13:48


    防雷車和空軍有啥狗屁關係,空軍巴不得F-35快點服役,省了一筆錢延壽老飛機
wangpeng0207 发表于 2010-5-29 13:48


    恍然大悟啊
不雅ID要扣分
那不是出现一次就要扣一次分了么
这届美帝政府好像发展军备讲究实用和经济啊
这跟同性恋有啥关系,居然能绑在一起!{:yi:}真他娘的油菜。{:hao:}
体制问题啊,难得MD也出这种事
回复 22# xuansu


    只能說你也悲劇了
汝乃我儿 发表于 2010-5-29 09:12

标题党,明明是JSF备用发动机...在两大发动机厂商之间拉平衡的
好玩
oldwatch 发表于 2010-5-29 11:15

早就收回去了,要不经管欠了一屁股债,国会发“猪肉”还这么环?
回复 35# zhutou6

不是主要原因吧,难道军方不懂这个道理?主要还是内部利益集团的争夺。
国会议员说,议案被否了就没脸见杰夫.伊梅尔特
观海同志压力不小