印度空军副参谋长号召印度学习中国的“逆向工程”

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印度空军副总参谋长“铺了布.酷马耳.把布拉”空军中将今日建议印度应该走中国道路收集技术数据通过逆向工程生产国防装备

IAF Vice-Chief Air Marshal Pranab Kumar Barbora today suggested India should go the Chinese way by gathering technical data to produce defence equipment through reverse engineering.
在搬家骡儿《尖端航空技术》的一次大会暨61周年庆典的发言中,“把布拉”空军中将说:“去山寨吧,不要惊,不要怕!我们的街坊门(指中国)已经在这么做。如果别人不给你而你又想要,就去山寨吧!”
Addressing a gathering at a convention of The Frontiers of Aeronautical Technologies and 61st AGM in Bangalore, Air Marshal Babora said, “Do reverse engineering. Don't be scared. Our neighbours are already doing it. If someone does not give you, and you want it, do reverse engineering.”

然而他的言论未必能被欧美接受,因为他们正发现难于保护他们的知识产权。
His comments, however, might not go down well with Americans and Europeans, who are finding it hard to protect their intellectual property rights.

Reverse engineering is a process of analysing a technology to ascertain how it was designed. The knowledge is then used to build the equipment or system or make improvements to it without using any physical part of the original.

Critical of the defence industry’s inability to be self-reliant in producing indegenous systems for defence and aerospace requirements, Air Marshal Barbora said, “We have got the best brains, but it has to be focussed to get the product.”

Prodding the defence establishment and manufacturers to go for joint ventures and get the technological knowhow of systems, Barbora said: “No country has produced fighter aircraft on its own. It has been a joint effort of like-minded countries
http://www.business-standard.com ... nce-systems/391506/


此贴的英文版同发布于下面连接,如有三哥回复,将同步翻译转载
http://www.defenceforum.in/forum ... ystems&p=130940

印度空军副总参谋长“铺了布.酷马耳.把布拉”空军中将今日建议印度应该走中国道路收集技术数据通过逆向工程生产国防装备

IAF Vice-Chief Air Marshal Pranab Kumar Barbora today suggested India should go the Chinese way by gathering technical data to produce defence equipment through reverse engineering.
在搬家骡儿《尖端航空技术》的一次大会暨61周年庆典的发言中,“把布拉”空军中将说:“去山寨吧,不要惊,不要怕!我们的街坊门(指中国)已经在这么做。如果别人不给你而你又想要,就去山寨吧!”
Addressing a gathering at a convention of The Frontiers of Aeronautical Technologies and 61st AGM in Bangalore, Air Marshal Babora said, “Do reverse engineering. Don't be scared. Our neighbours are already doing it. If someone does not give you, and you want it, do reverse engineering.”

然而他的言论未必能被欧美接受,因为他们正发现难于保护他们的知识产权。
His comments, however, might not go down well with Americans and Europeans, who are finding it hard to protect their intellectual property rights.

Reverse engineering is a process of analysing a technology to ascertain how it was designed. The knowledge is then used to build the equipment or system or make improvements to it without using any physical part of the original.

Critical of the defence industry’s inability to be self-reliant in producing indegenous systems for defence and aerospace requirements, Air Marshal Barbora said, “We have got the best brains, but it has to be focussed to get the product.”

Prodding the defence establishment and manufacturers to go for joint ventures and get the technological knowhow of systems, Barbora said: “No country has produced fighter aircraft on its own. It has been a joint effort of like-minded countries
http://www.business-standard.com ... nce-systems/391506/


此贴的英文版同发布于下面连接,如有三哥回复,将同步翻译转载
http://www.defenceforum.in/forum ... ystems&p=130940
3哥有这个基础吗,还有那些买办们能同意吗。。。。???:D
他以为山寨容易。
{:Bingo:}土鳖还想山寨歼星舰捏,A3难道想弄个死星玩玩{:3_97:}
山寨可不是什么人都能玩的
A3变短视了?不是说从长远看,它的模式更有潜力?
A3的潜力不容置疑~!
君不见连陆军的阿琼都潜了多少年水么!他们连核潜艇都有了,再潜上几个世纪也不会成问题!~
买办们能同意吗
得有基础,不是说山寨就能山寨的
呵呵看看。。
可是西方都肯卖的啊!为什么还要山寨?
和太多的三锅打过交道,总的说来就是满口大话,空话,骗话; 典型的眼高手低的主儿;他们一定是一门心思做个前无古人后无来者的,结果N年(超期10年后),没办法只好买个别人家的东西了结.
不能改变它的浮夸性就没有可能。


http://www.defenceforum.in/forum/showthread.php?9498-IAF-vice-chief-prefers-reverse-engg-to-build-defence-systems&p=130940
英文版回复来了:
三哥singh:  “我想我们不需要山寨,不是吗?我们会采用合资、技术转让与自主研发路线!”


"I don't think we require reverse engineering ? We are going through the joint development, ToT and Swaraj route.

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http://www.defenceforum.in/forum/showthread.php?9498-IAF-vice-chief-prefers-reverse-engg-to-build-defence-systems&p=130940
英文版回复来了:
三哥singh:  “我想我们不需要山寨,不是吗?我们会采用合资、技术转让与自主研发路线!”


"I don't think we require reverse engineering ? We are going through the joint development, ToT and Swaraj route.

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連基於都沒搞好還怎樣搞山寨....
;P中国模式已经深得人心了~~
山寨没回扣吃
阿三上层不会同意的
他以为山寨容易?第一经济强国美帝19世纪末是世界第一剽窃专利大户。上个世纪60、70年代,德国到处都有来自日本的工业间谍,以至于今天在德国窃取工业技术的TG间谍(德国人说的,真假未知)被称为黄祸再来。山寨不是一件值得光荣的事情,但是中国今天能够山寨国外的各种先进产品,依靠的是几代人受穷建立起了这一套完整的工业体系。就阿三那个半残的基础工业还是省省吧。
A3的洋务运动不是搞得挺好的,怎么想到要山寨了。
想想所谓知识产权在有的时候真是个屁。

特别在军事技术上,有就是有,没有就是没有,能造就是能造,不能你就自己想办法。
哪里都那么光明正大,都老实自己搞出来,那CIA 和 KGB 喝西北风去?
山寨也要自身的基础工业上得去。
没基础就别想山寨,TG山寨失败的血泪史他怎么没有看到
山寨也要有能负载山寨对象所必须的工业基础的,TG没能山寨出黑鹰就是例子。
山寨也要看实力的。。不是嘴巴。。
英文版回复:

三哥Argantrope:
"山寨一把倒也不是不可以,但为何要在媒体上大喊大叫地说出来唯恐他人不知似的呢?这可能会影响武器进口啊!如果你要做什么,应该悄悄地进村,打枪的不要!”

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  It ok that we think of reverse engg, but why talking in the media and creating the things hype. It may affect the arms import. IF you do a thing do it silently and show the results
山寨的最终目标就是消灭山寨,但中国一直走山寨的道路,何时能有尽头
先从山寨米格21开始吧...
jjabetterman 发表于 2010-4-11 18:47

时候未到呗。。
山寨没回扣
先把马列毛理论学通
回扣不拿了,哈哈哈
逆向工程虽然比从头开始简单,但是同样是一种复杂的工程,不是复印机,不是阿三喊喊就能实现的
和“一个比较二的国家”叫什么劲。。。
三哥就算搞懂了设计,工业基础摆在那儿,能造的出来么
TG表示压力很大
终于觉悟了
没有一定的工业基础,无论是偷(引进吸收创新)、山寨(姑且算是集成创新吧)、完全自己原始创新,都比较困难。过去我们的造船就是好例子。给你原件了你也不一定能弄出来。
只能说A3愿望是好的。
山寨也要讲实力的哦。要是底子薄,那八国联军就会杀上山来剿匪啦
其实阿三一直在山寨
最成功的就是医药行业