超级军网MD的加油机采购如今怎么样了
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上次波音咸鱼翻身，到现在好像一直没有新消息啊上次波音咸鱼翻身，到现在好像一直没有新消息啊
波音正打点之中~~
波音说了，您要大号的咱就777，您要小号的咱就767.......
总之由一根筋，变为两头堵了。
总之由一根筋，变为两头堵了。
MD平台多，可以随便挑
标书需要能确保波音中标，但又要能让心仪空客的空军将军们服气。估计还在协调中。
已经明确即使只有1家投标也会照样给合同的
貌似一共三期
第一期空客中标 波音喊冤到现在还在那搁着
剩下两期估计都是波音的吧
第一期空客中标 波音喊冤到现在还在那搁着
剩下两期估计都是波音的吧
这事情真是体制问题。
bensmat 发表于 2010-2-27 12:13 
空客没戏了，没看见阿拉巴马州共和党参议员拿空军将领任命出气，扣了不让过。{:jian:}
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS ... index.html?hpt=Sbin
Washington (CNN) -- The bidding competition to replace an aging refueling tanker fleet has only reinforced Sen. Richard Shelby's anger at the U.S. Air Force.
Shelby, R-Alabama, wants the fleet made in his home state but said he believes the bidding process for the lucrative project is a sham -- stacked against Northrop Grumman, the company that would build in Alabama.
This month, Shelby protested against the process with a drastic move -- he blocked most of President Obama's nominees to an array of federal agencies that have nothing to do with the issue.
In his first television interview on the subject since then, the lawmaker admitted he put a near-blanket hold on 47 Obama nominees for a simple reason. "Well, I did it to get the attention of the administration," Shelby said.
Did he ever. He made headlines, inspired a satirical segment on "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" and became a symbol of gridlock.
The Pentagon said the competition for the tanker contract is "as fair as humanly possible."
"Our only goal here is to get our war fighters a new tanker so that they can have the support they need to be successful in their operations and to get the taxpayers the best deal for their money," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.
"We don't have a dog in this fight otherwise. We don't care who wins. We want the war fighter and the taxpayer to win. So we want to design a competition that is as fair as possible."
Shelby is remarkably candid about the reasons for his controversial action. At a time when bringing home the bacon makes for some unappetizing politics, he unapologetically explains that he is just trying to put money and jobs into his home state.
"Ultimately, I am a senator from Alabama. I wanted to make sure there was fairness because if there was fairness, the jobs would go there," Shelby said.
He eventually lifted his hold on all but three nominees for senior Air Force positions.
Morrell, the Pentagon spokesman, said those vacancies "adversely affect the organization."
"Without these highly qualified professionals, we are not firing on all cylinders," Morrell said.
Shelby admits that issue doesn't really much matter to him. When asked about the qualifications of nominees he held up, Shelby replied, "Oh, I don't have any idea."
He openly concedes he is blocking them for one reason: leverage. "That's part of the life up here," he said.
It is part of life in the Senate. You won't find it in the official rules, but by tradition, any senator can put a hold on any presidential nominee for any reason -- and both parties do it.
President Bush nominated Hans Von Spakovsky for the Federal Election Commission. A Democratic senator held him up over a voting rights issue. That lawmaker: then-Sen. Barack Obama.
"It wasn't that I didn't have the qualifications. It was that he disagreed with me on a substantive issue," Spakovsky said.
Now the president has a different perspective, telling lawmakers during this year's State of the Union address, "Well-qualified public servants shouldn't be held hostage to the pet projects or grudges of a few individual senators."
A closer look shows Obama's first-year success with nominees is about the same as his predecessor's.
According to the nonpartisan White House Transition Project, the Senate confirmed 353 of 569 major Obama nominations in 2009, compared with 360 out of 513 during Bush's first year.
Senate historian Don Ritchie calls "the hold" a time-honored tradition. "It makes them powerful individually, and it allows them to stop things they feel need to be adjusted or were wrong to start with," Ritchie said.
That's Sen. Kit Bond's argument for his controversial hold. He said the U.S. General Services Administration is dragging its feet on moving 1,000 federal employees out of a dilapidated Kansas City, Missouri, building.
So Bond, R-Missouri, blocked Martha Johnson for GSA administrator. "I had only one way of getting their attention, and I put a hold on the nomination of Ms. Johnson," Bond said. He said he always thought Johnson would be "fine administrator."
When Senate Democrats finally forced a vote after an eight-month delay, Bond voted for her. When asked how he explains using someone he thinks is qualified to vote for as leverage for an issue she didn't yet control, Bond responded. "Because an unresponsive bureaucracy will not respond to the needs of the people we represent unless you have a means of getting their attention, so that's what I did."
Nominees in limbo may be the epitome of broken government to some, but not senators -- for them, it's a source of power.
Sometimes it's political, sometimes it's parochial, but senators see it as another critical check the legislators have over the executive branch.
"It's not a symbol of broken government," Bond said, "it's how government works."
空客没戏了，没看见阿拉巴马州共和党参议员拿空军将领任命出气，扣了不让过。{:jian:}
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS ... index.html?hpt=Sbin
Washington (CNN) -- The bidding competition to replace an aging refueling tanker fleet has only reinforced Sen. Richard Shelby's anger at the U.S. Air Force.
Shelby, R-Alabama, wants the fleet made in his home state but said he believes the bidding process for the lucrative project is a sham -- stacked against Northrop Grumman, the company that would build in Alabama.
This month, Shelby protested against the process with a drastic move -- he blocked most of President Obama's nominees to an array of federal agencies that have nothing to do with the issue.
In his first television interview on the subject since then, the lawmaker admitted he put a near-blanket hold on 47 Obama nominees for a simple reason. "Well, I did it to get the attention of the administration," Shelby said.
Did he ever. He made headlines, inspired a satirical segment on "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" and became a symbol of gridlock.
The Pentagon said the competition for the tanker contract is "as fair as humanly possible."
"Our only goal here is to get our war fighters a new tanker so that they can have the support they need to be successful in their operations and to get the taxpayers the best deal for their money," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.
"We don't have a dog in this fight otherwise. We don't care who wins. We want the war fighter and the taxpayer to win. So we want to design a competition that is as fair as possible."
Shelby is remarkably candid about the reasons for his controversial action. At a time when bringing home the bacon makes for some unappetizing politics, he unapologetically explains that he is just trying to put money and jobs into his home state.
"Ultimately, I am a senator from Alabama. I wanted to make sure there was fairness because if there was fairness, the jobs would go there," Shelby said.
He eventually lifted his hold on all but three nominees for senior Air Force positions.
Morrell, the Pentagon spokesman, said those vacancies "adversely affect the organization."
"Without these highly qualified professionals, we are not firing on all cylinders," Morrell said.
Shelby admits that issue doesn't really much matter to him. When asked about the qualifications of nominees he held up, Shelby replied, "Oh, I don't have any idea."
He openly concedes he is blocking them for one reason: leverage. "That's part of the life up here," he said.
It is part of life in the Senate. You won't find it in the official rules, but by tradition, any senator can put a hold on any presidential nominee for any reason -- and both parties do it.
President Bush nominated Hans Von Spakovsky for the Federal Election Commission. A Democratic senator held him up over a voting rights issue. That lawmaker: then-Sen. Barack Obama.
"It wasn't that I didn't have the qualifications. It was that he disagreed with me on a substantive issue," Spakovsky said.
Now the president has a different perspective, telling lawmakers during this year's State of the Union address, "Well-qualified public servants shouldn't be held hostage to the pet projects or grudges of a few individual senators."
A closer look shows Obama's first-year success with nominees is about the same as his predecessor's.
According to the nonpartisan White House Transition Project, the Senate confirmed 353 of 569 major Obama nominations in 2009, compared with 360 out of 513 during Bush's first year.
Senate historian Don Ritchie calls "the hold" a time-honored tradition. "It makes them powerful individually, and it allows them to stop things they feel need to be adjusted or were wrong to start with," Ritchie said.
That's Sen. Kit Bond's argument for his controversial hold. He said the U.S. General Services Administration is dragging its feet on moving 1,000 federal employees out of a dilapidated Kansas City, Missouri, building.
So Bond, R-Missouri, blocked Martha Johnson for GSA administrator. "I had only one way of getting their attention, and I put a hold on the nomination of Ms. Johnson," Bond said. He said he always thought Johnson would be "fine administrator."
When Senate Democrats finally forced a vote after an eight-month delay, Bond voted for her. When asked how he explains using someone he thinks is qualified to vote for as leverage for an issue she didn't yet control, Bond responded. "Because an unresponsive bureaucracy will not respond to the needs of the people we represent unless you have a means of getting their attention, so that's what I did."
Nominees in limbo may be the epitome of broken government to some, but not senators -- for them, it's a source of power.
Sometimes it's political, sometimes it's parochial, but senators see it as another critical check the legislators have over the executive branch.
"It's not a symbol of broken government," Bond said, "it's how government works."
美国也同样存在体制问题，就看那个利益集团手段高超了。
肯定是波音了
我想看KC787。。。。。。
我想看KC-777NG:victory:
这估计是肥水不流外人田。议员都是靠着大财团当上的。
我也想看看KC-777NG
我也想看看KC-777NG
777ng太大了吧，787还是挺不错的。。。。
787生产线客机都生产不过来，怎么会做加油机，倒是767客机要停产了，正好腾出生产线生产军机，何况下一代预警机平台也是767，正好统一后勤。
P8是用737平台。估计不会用757或者67平台
想都不用想
肯定是波音
当年看的那个视频还记忆犹新
“我们不能把这头猪拉过来，贴上个美国标签，就说它是美国飞机！”
肯定是波音
当年看的那个视频还记忆犹新
“我们不能把这头猪拉过来，贴上个美国标签，就说它是美国飞机！”
已经是波音锅里的肉，就看怎么弄了。。
xuansu 发表于 2010-2-28 00:16
当年波音方案被否决也是挺冤的，本来空军根本没有把加油/运输双用途作为重要指标，可最终波音主要就折在这条上。
当年波音方案被否决也是挺冤的，本来空军根本没有把加油/运输双用途作为重要指标，可最终波音主要就折在这条上。
shutgun 发表于 2010-3-7 21:42
可是比載油量767也不如330阿,載貨載油都輸人,有什麼辦法?
可是比載油量767也不如330阿,載貨載油都輸人,有什麼辦法?
MD啊MD啊~~~加油
HSIS 发表于 2010-3-1 19:05
E10的预定搭载机体764ER根本就没生出来，而且这个项目现在仍然很不明朗。
E10的预定搭载机体764ER根本就没生出来，而且这个项目现在仍然很不明朗。
新一代KC-X的涂装很漂亮嘛.........
KC-45第一回合被潜规则真是可惜，不过330还不至于一点油水都捞不到，北约其他国家的加油机换代还是能拿到不少合同。
经济需要复苏，这个时候加油机项目还给空客是不可能的吧。。。
澳洲、英国、沙特，都开始换装A330了
波音正打点之中~~
TG的大飞机何时才能搞定:L