威盛在京发布“中国芯”标志

龙芯的名头被威盛抢走了。

matrix2388 发表于 2010-1-16 11:23
:D龙芯已经是中央要扶植的项目了

龙芯只要坚持下去还是很有希望的

中国的水平都到了奔4了，怎么市面上还没有民用计算机出售？

不知道上网本用怎么样

真拿自己不当外人。。。。。。

威盛的老板娘是王永庆的女儿吧.

行了，估计没几个人当你自己人

打倒楼上一堆“两国论”反动分子

VIA沉寂了很久啊。自从推出支持DDR的P4X266主板芯片以后，在PC市场似乎再也没听过什么关于他的消息了。

VIA现在动作慢的要死，低功耗可以主攻将要发达的触摸屏平板电脑市场。

金箍儿棒 发表于 2010-1-16 11:54
早就有了，你刚从火星回来吗

威盛的计算机芯片，现在什么地方在用？回答是超市收银机。

金箍儿棒 发表于 2010-1-16 11:54


    多为POS终端较多，正式的民用终端还需要一定的时间去磨合。。。

ww的东西??哈哈,还是先承认自己是中国人吧!!

被台农恶心到了，还是叫 台巴之心 比较好。

killerop34 发表于 2010-1-18 17:16
整個CPU核心團隊都是外國人
VIA只是擁有那支團隊和專利罷了
威盛本業..........營收表現被其他台灣IC設計業者越超越遠...
目前幾乎沒有什麼殺手級的產品能拿的上檯面

more than meets the eyes






In the Web hosting world, you can charge a premium for customers whohave dedicated servers. But Moore's Law and every-more powerfulprocessors combined with server virtualization puts pressure on Webhosting companies to do shared servers for their clients because nomodest Web customer can use a whole one-socket or two-socket servertoday. What's a Web hosting company trying to make profit to do?
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And that is just what Dell's Data Center Solutions unit, whichcreates and sells custom-designed server platforms for hyperscaleclients, wants to sell to hosting companies. According to Drew Schulke,product marketing manager for the DCS unit, five hosting providersapproached Dell because they wanted the option of providing customerswith smaller physical servers, perfectly capable of handling Webhosting workloads and not depending on virtualization. Schulke saysthat the number of machines that these companies have already deployedand their plans to offer dedicated hosting were sufficient to justifyinvesting in custom server designs.

Dell looked around at Intel's Atom processor as well as a fewothers, but VIA Technologies' Nano processor is the only one of thelow-power x64 chips that has the option of supporting virtualizationthrough its VMX virtualization extensions. It isn't so much that thesehosting companies want to be able to use virtualization to carve upthese servers as it is they want to use virtualization to be able tomanage the server image on a dedicated machine. You can't use Xen orKVM - as two early customers for the VIA boxes plan to - to package upa server image on an Atom processor because it does not support Intel'sVT instructions.
The Dell DCS VIA server versus a disk
drive (Click to Enlarge)

Dell took the Nano chip and chipset and worked with VIA and anunnamed original design manufacturer to create what it calls a "hotplug server" based on a modified version of VIA's Nano processor andits similarly named motherboard. Using a 1.6 GHz Nano processor and theDell XS11-VX8 server module, which is slightly longer than a 3.5-inchdisk storage bay, Dell can give hosting companies a 64-bit Nano serverthat has from 1 GB to 3 GB of main memory and that has an idle powerdraw of around 15 watts and that draws somewhere between 20 and 29watts under peak loads. That is about one-tenth the power used by astandard two-socket 1U box that is not running at a particularly highutilization.
These hot plug servers are not blade servers, which plug into amidplane for systems management and which share switching andperipherals. But the VIA server modules do slide into a 12-bay serverchassis (nicknamed "Fortuna") that gives the devices shared power andcooling. The chassis has a 2U form factor, and it does not have aservice processor like commercial-grade PowerEdge rack and blade serverchasses do. Schulke says that the hosting shops that were intrigued bythe idea of using Nano mobos as servers just wanted a baseboardmanagement controller on the board that supported the IMPI 2.0protocol, which the VIA board does.
Front view of the Dell DCS VIA
server (Click to Enlarge)

Each VIA server module has 1 GB of DDR2 main memory soldered to itand has a memory slot for supporting an additional 1 GB or 2 GB ofmemory. The Nano chip on the board runs at 1.6 GHz, but using BIOSsettings, it can be geared down to 1.3 GHz, allowing hosting companiesto charge a premium for slightly more processing oomph and to savepower where customers don't need it. The server package has room for a2.5-inch disk, which can be a disk drive or a solid state drive, and italso has an SD card slot that can be used as a boot image for anoperating system. The server has two Gigabit Ethernet ports as well,and that means one port can be used for networking out to the world andthe other can be used to support iSCSI disk arrays.
Dell expects to sell a loaded chassis with a dozen of the VIA servermodules for under $4,800, which works out to less than $400 per servernode. That means anything over $33 per month per physical server that ahosting company can charge for dedicated hosting can go towards payingfor other things, such as salaries or, heaven forbid, profits.
The XS11-VX8 will start shipping at the end of June, and of the 50DCS customers that Dell has, 14 have asked to look at prototypes ofthese machines to kick them around and Dell expects that somewherebetween 30 and 40 of its custom server buyers will eventually takedeliveries of the machines. Hosting providers in China, according toSchulke, will be particularly interested in such machines because theycan only get enough reliable electrical power in their data centers todo maybe 3,000 to 4,000 watts per server rack.
That is not very many modern-day quad-core Intel "Nehalem EP" Xeonor Advanced Micro Devices "Shanghai" Opteron servers, and such machinesdo not fit the desires of small businesses in China to use dedicatedservers for their companies at their hosting providers. Using the VIAservers lets hosting providers in China match their electrical powerand customer needs.
The Fortuna XS11-VX8 is not going to be a formal PowerEdge product.So once again, Dell has taunted you with a product that you can't buy.But if enough of you are interested, Dell or someone else will getaround to commercializing such iron. I can, for instance, imagine sixof these Fortuna modules being slapped into a tiny tower case and beingsold as a small business box - and one that is perhaps more suited toworkloads than the Hewlett-Packard "Shorty" BladeSystem c3000 or IBMBladeCenter S blade boxes. You could put a real Intel Xeon or AMDOpteron processor inside a standard tower box and then let these servermodules plug into the storage bays. SMBs are not comfortable withvirtualization, and such a machine would admit this and deal with it.

airbear 发表于 2010-1-18 19:50

全资子公司，你还真是少见多怪

早就在卖现在是操作系统不能民用....有象XP的操作系统的话我电脑也买他

看成了盛京

qnxchina 发表于 2010-1-18 22:17


    全资子公司？只要这个子公司的所有人员，所有资产还在美国，就和“中国心”这个名头没有任何关系。

台巴太不要Face~

Oceanian 发表于 2010-1-20 05:22


    ST发来贺电，某心不要太不要脸，连IP库都用了不少ST的

qnxchina 发表于 2010-1-20 06:17
哦忘了告诉你一点，控制cyrix的还不是via母公司，而是via的美国子公司。

    世界真奇妙，纯种美国人所有美国人经营，美国人获利的公司，居然能用来攻击龙芯的成色了

你丫的要不是这么不要脸，应该会被自己最近的表演恶心得吐出来吧

Oceanian 发表于 2010-1-20 08:06


    SSE3是VIA发明的??
AMD不也是靠交叉授权得到的?
via的美国子公司,就不是VIA的公司了?
最近国内收购国外的一堆厂商都是傻子?

华为在美国的子公司难道就属于MD企业?

qnxchina 发表于 2010-1-18 22:17
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全资子公司???收购的时候可是要有条约的,核心技术外国政府批准时可不会给你

qnxchina 发表于 2010-1-20 08:36
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华为在美国有子公司,可华为有自己开发的核心技术,不是靠在美国收购子公司得到的!!!

qnxchina 发表于 2010-1-20 08:35
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哈哈,要看什么技术了,外国政府批准收购时可是要有条件的,核心技术哪个外国政府会卖啊????美国政府会批准中国买下INTEL公司的核心技术吗????哈哈

中国的水平都到了奔4了，怎么市面上还没有民用计算机出售？
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做得出什麽性能的 CPU 是一回事, 成本, 软硬件配套是另一回事. 要能大规模商用, 单是有性能还差大截. 这是残酷的现实.:dizzy:

qnxchina 发表于 2010-1-20 06:17
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连IP库都用了不少ST的????哈哈,设计专利吗???怎么不去告啊??

比起WW靠收购得来的还掌握在外国子公司技术人员里的技术,龙芯的技术可是我们中国人自己开发的!!!

要是外国政府会批准,大陆可以收购不知道多少威盛式的技术了!!!

可是为什么外国政府会批准给WW啊,大家就心知肚明了!!!

还中国心啊?????这和外国卖WW武器对抗大陆是一个道理!!!

华为在美国有子公司,可华为有自己开发的核心技术,不是靠在美国收购子公司得到的!!!
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连微软, intel 这些公司都要不断收购技术, 收购技术是科技公司不断发展的一个重要渠道. ;P

killerop34 发表于 2010-1-20 09:44



    废话,不把生产放在ST,谁让你用IP库?什么叫工艺绑定知道否?又不是STL级别的东西可以很轻松的移植
PS:先把你NANO无法运行64位的谬论说清楚吧

屠城校尉 发表于 2010-1-20 09:45


无论是否是自己发明的,只要通过合法手段收购其开发公司,你的就是我的,连你公司都成为我的一部分,居然产权还有人说不是我的

很多搞研发的小公司就是等著被大公司收购. 每年那麽多科技展就是大卖场.:D

回复 35# qnxchina
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哈哈,这种不涉及专利发明的东西还是少提吧!!

代工的谁都可以去做!!!没有WW代工有别人代工!!!

qnxchina 发表于 2010-1-20 12:28
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哈哈,去问问收购美国的核心技术要不要美国政府的批准吧!!!这合法的手段要合的法是美国批准的法,而美国批准的法里可没有说要出然核心技术!!!

屠城校尉 发表于 2010-1-20 09:45
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去问问收购核心技术要不要核心技术国家政府的批准!!!

qnxchina 发表于 2010-1-20 12:26
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又来吹代工生产的牛了!!!哈哈,大陆不用WW,找意法半导体一样代工!!!