超级军网听说小巴59改在这次很露脸！
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听说挨了10下RPG居然成员没事。。。。。，现代复合装甲真这么牛B吗，如果是RPG党可以回家吃饭饭了！RT
听说挨了10下RPG居然成员没事。。。。。，现代复合装甲真这么牛B吗，如果是RPG党可以回家吃饭饭了！
听说挨了10下RPG居然成员没事。。。。。，现代复合装甲真这么牛B吗，如果是RPG党可以回家吃饭饭了！RT
听说挨了10下RPG居然成员没事。。。。。，现代复合装甲真这么牛B吗，如果是RPG党可以回家吃饭饭了！
武装卫队 发表于 2009-11-24 20:29 
没击穿，或者后效不足
10下也没什么
没击穿，或者后效不足
10下也没什么
武装卫队 发表于 2009-11-24 20:29
没击穿，或者后效不足
10下也没什么
没击穿，或者后效不足
10下也没什么
自己沙发先站了楼下的墙角玩去
啥时候的事情
难道完全没有反应装甲的功劳么
RPG党在行动···
10下还没事~~？ 塔利班都是抵近50米瞄着炮塔正前方打的？{:2_62:}
挨到哪里比较重要吧，要是正面挨打，打不穿是正常的……没什么好骄傲的。
zyz201 发表于 2009-11-24 22:24
正面挨打？那么10下无法击毁更容易解释。
就是击穿了，T-54一类就算不加那个附加甲，算上防弹外形的效果，击穿后的射流的后效也不大了吧。
正面挨打？那么10下无法击毁更容易解释。
就是击穿了，T-54一类就算不加那个附加甲，算上防弹外形的效果，击穿后的射流的后效也不大了吧。
TG的灭火抑爆系统还是起了作用滴
猎杀m1a2 发表于 2009-11-24 22:27
第二次车臣战争中俄军的T-62在炮塔正面不也装了膨胀式“反应装甲”防RPG吗
如果T-54/55之类都可以轻易抵挡住后者的话这两型的升级版坦克T-62更不在话下了
第二次车臣战争中俄军的T-62在炮塔正面不也装了膨胀式“反应装甲”防RPG吗
如果T-54/55之类都可以轻易抵挡住后者的话这两型的升级版坦克T-62更不在话下了
有没有现场图片啊
万字军骑士 发表于 2009-11-25 04:02
RPG-7和RPG-29动破甲深度不可同日而语哦
RPG-7和RPG-29动破甲深度不可同日而语哦
RPG能穿坦克？我以为就打打装甲车和汗马
2004年5月1日英军皇家威尔士亲王团的一辆武士前后吃下14发RPG，驾驶员还能活着把车开出来，为此驾驶员得了枚维多利亚十字章。
2004年5月1日英军皇家威尔士亲王团的一辆武士前后吃下14发RPG，驾驶员还能活着把车开出来，为此驾驶员得了枚维多利亚十字章。
很好, 这是个检验性能的好机会
其实小巴这种59改（阿扎拉）对付RPG-7是足够了，照片中看，阿扎拉在59炮塔外面又增加了一层焊接式装甲钢板外壳，外壳和主装甲间还有一定空间，部分型号阿扎拉在外壳上又附加了反应装甲模块，RPG的射流在穿过外壳后，也无法穿过主装甲。图中被掀开的外壳（露出59炮塔主装甲）估计是爆炸器材外部爆炸时炸开的。
10发RPG。。。里面的人没被震晕啊
挨10下RPG没事，这个江湖也太平静了吧
这么牛？
Fan1 发表于 2009-11-25 15:51
真的是武士？？？？？？
真的是武士？？？？？？
回复 18# micshang
相当于间隔装甲哦。
相当于间隔装甲哦。
Fan1 发表于 2009-11-25 15:51
在伊拉克？有传送门不？研究下
在伊拉克？有传送门不？研究下
LZ发联接啊,无图无真相
sagaliang 发表于 2009-11-25 17:52
Johnson Beharry的维多利亚十字章的表章证书，没有提到具体是多少发RPG但是提到是多发。
Private Beharry carried out two individual acts of great heroism by which he saved the lives of his comrades. Both were in direct face of the enemy, under intense fire, at great personal risk to himself (one leading to him sustaining very serious injuries). His valour is worthy of the highest recognition.
In the early hours of 1 May 2004 Beharry's company was ordered to replenish an isolated coalition forces outpost located in the centre of the troubled city of Al Amarah. He was the driver of a platoon commander's Warrior armoured fighting vehicle. His platoon was the company's reserve force and was placed on immediate notice to move.
As the main elements of his company were moving into the city to carry out the replenishment, they were re-tasked to fight through a series of enemy ambushes in order to extract a foot patrol that had become pinned down under sustained small arms and heavy machine gun fire and improvised explosive device and rocket-propelled grenade attack. Beharry's platoon was tasked over the radio to come to the assistance of the remainder of the company, who were attempting to extract the isolated foot patrol.
As his platoon passed a roundabout, en route to the pinned-down patrol, they became aware that the road to the front was empty of all civilians and traffic - an indicator of a potential ambush ahead. The platoon commander ordered the vehicle to halt, so that he could assess the situation. The vehicle was then immediately hit by multiple rocket-propelled grenades.
Eyewitnesses report that the vehicle was engulfed in a number of violent explosions, which physically rocked the 30-tonne Warrior. As a result of this ferocious initial volley of fire, both the platoon commander and the vehicle's gunner were incapacitated by concussion and other wounds, and a number of the soldiers in the rear of the vehicle were also wounded.
Due to damage sustained in the blast to the vehicle's radio systems, Beharry had no means of communication with either his turret crew or any of the other Warrior vehicles deployed around him. He did not know if his commander or crewmen were still alive, or how serious their injuries may be.
In this confusing and dangerous situation, on his own initiative, he closed his driver's hatch and moved forward through the ambush position to try to establish some form of communications, halting just short of a barricade placed across the road. The vehicle was hit again by sustained rocket-propelled grenade attack from insurgent fighters in the alleyways and on rooftops around his vehicle.
Further damage to the Warrior from these explosions caused it to catch fire and fill rapidly with thick, noxious smoke. Beharry opened up his armoured hatch cover to clear his view and orientate himself to the situation. He still had no radio communications and was now acting on his own initiative, as the lead vehicle of a six-Warrior convoy in an enemy-controlled area of the city at night.
He assessed that his best course of action to save the lives of his crew was to push through, out of the ambush. He drove his Warrior directly through the barricade, not knowing if there were mines or improvised explosive devices placed there to destroy his vehicle. By doing this he was able to lead the remaining five warriors behind him towards safety.
As the smoke in his driver's tunnel cleared, he was just able to make out the shape of another rocket-propelled grenade in flight heading directly towards him. He pulled the heavy armoured hatch down with one hand, whilst still controlling his vehicle with the other. However, the overpressure from the explosion of the rocket wrenched the hatch out of his grip, and the flames and force of the blast passed directly over him, down the driver's tunnel, further wounding the semi-conscious gunner in the turret.
The impact of this rocket destroyed Beharry's armoured periscope, so he was forced to drive the vehicle through the remainder of the ambushed route, some 1500m long, with his hatch opened up and his head exposed to enemy fire, all the time with no communications with any other vehicle. During this long surge through the ambushes the vehicle was again struck by rocket-propelled grenades and small arms fire.
While his head remained out of the hatch, to enable him to see the route ahead, he was directly exposed to much of this fire, and was himself hit by a 7.62mm bullet, which penetrated his helmet and remained lodged on its inner surface. Despite this harrowing weight of incoming fire Beharry continued to push through the extended ambush, still leading his platoon until he broke clean.
He then visually identified another Warrior from his company and followed it through the streets of Al Amarah to the outside of the Cimic House outpost, which was receiving small arms fire from the surrounding area. Once he had brought his vehicle to a halt outside, without thought for his own personal safety, he climbed onto the turret of the still-burning vehicle and, seemingly oblivious to the incoming enemy small arms fire, manhandled his wounded platoon commander out of the turret, off the vehicle and to the safety of a nearby Warrior.
He then returned once again to his vehicle and again mounted the exposed turret to lift out the vehicle's gunner and move him to a position of safety. Exposing himself yet again to enemy fire he returned to the rear of the burning vehicle to lead the disorientated and shocked dismounts and casualties to safety.
Remounting his burning vehicle for the third time, he drove it through a complex chicane and into the security of the defended perimeter of the outpost, thus denying it to the enemy.
Only at this stage did Beharry pull the fire extinguisher handles, immobilising the engine of the vehicle, dismounted and then moved himself into the relative safety of the back of another Warrior. Once inside Beharry collapsed from the sheer physical and mental exhaustion of his efforts and was subsequently himself evacuated.
Having returned to duty following medical treatment, on 11 June 2004 Beharry's Warrior was part of a quick reaction force tasked to attempt to cut off a mortar team that had attacked a coalition force base in Al Amarah. As the lead vehicle of the platoon he was moving rapidly through the dark city streets towards the suspected firing point, when his vehicle was ambushed by the enemy from a series of rooftop positions.
During this initial heavy weight of enemy fire, a rocket-propelled grenade detonated on the vehicle's frontal armour, just six inches [15cm] from Beharry's head, resulting in a serious head injury. Other rockets struck the turret and sides of the vehicle, incapacitating his commander and injuring several of the crew.
With the blood from his head injury obscuring his vision, Beharry managed to continue to control his vehicle, and forcefully reversed the Warrior out of the ambush area. The vehicle continued to move until it struck the wall of a nearby building and came to rest. Beharry then lost consciousness as a result of his wounds.
By moving the vehicle out of the enemy's chosen killing area he enabled other Warrior crews to be able to extract his crew from his vehicle, with a greatly reduced risk from incoming fire.
Despite receiving a serious head injury, which later saw him being listed as very seriously injured and in a coma for some time, his level-headed actions in the face of heavy and accurate enemy fire at short range again almost certainly saved the lives of his crew and provided the conditions for their safe evacuation to medical treatment.
Beharry displayed repeated extreme gallantry and unquestioned valour, despite intense direct attacks, personal injury and damage to his vehicle in the face of relentless enemy action.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/mcv_80_warrior.htm
最下面的视频2：20秒到2：30秒之间有提到RPG数量。
Johnson Beharry的维多利亚十字章的表章证书，没有提到具体是多少发RPG但是提到是多发。
Private Beharry carried out two individual acts of great heroism by which he saved the lives of his comrades. Both were in direct face of the enemy, under intense fire, at great personal risk to himself (one leading to him sustaining very serious injuries). His valour is worthy of the highest recognition.
In the early hours of 1 May 2004 Beharry's company was ordered to replenish an isolated coalition forces outpost located in the centre of the troubled city of Al Amarah. He was the driver of a platoon commander's Warrior armoured fighting vehicle. His platoon was the company's reserve force and was placed on immediate notice to move.
As the main elements of his company were moving into the city to carry out the replenishment, they were re-tasked to fight through a series of enemy ambushes in order to extract a foot patrol that had become pinned down under sustained small arms and heavy machine gun fire and improvised explosive device and rocket-propelled grenade attack. Beharry's platoon was tasked over the radio to come to the assistance of the remainder of the company, who were attempting to extract the isolated foot patrol.
As his platoon passed a roundabout, en route to the pinned-down patrol, they became aware that the road to the front was empty of all civilians and traffic - an indicator of a potential ambush ahead. The platoon commander ordered the vehicle to halt, so that he could assess the situation. The vehicle was then immediately hit by multiple rocket-propelled grenades.
Eyewitnesses report that the vehicle was engulfed in a number of violent explosions, which physically rocked the 30-tonne Warrior. As a result of this ferocious initial volley of fire, both the platoon commander and the vehicle's gunner were incapacitated by concussion and other wounds, and a number of the soldiers in the rear of the vehicle were also wounded.
Due to damage sustained in the blast to the vehicle's radio systems, Beharry had no means of communication with either his turret crew or any of the other Warrior vehicles deployed around him. He did not know if his commander or crewmen were still alive, or how serious their injuries may be.
In this confusing and dangerous situation, on his own initiative, he closed his driver's hatch and moved forward through the ambush position to try to establish some form of communications, halting just short of a barricade placed across the road. The vehicle was hit again by sustained rocket-propelled grenade attack from insurgent fighters in the alleyways and on rooftops around his vehicle.
Further damage to the Warrior from these explosions caused it to catch fire and fill rapidly with thick, noxious smoke. Beharry opened up his armoured hatch cover to clear his view and orientate himself to the situation. He still had no radio communications and was now acting on his own initiative, as the lead vehicle of a six-Warrior convoy in an enemy-controlled area of the city at night.
He assessed that his best course of action to save the lives of his crew was to push through, out of the ambush. He drove his Warrior directly through the barricade, not knowing if there were mines or improvised explosive devices placed there to destroy his vehicle. By doing this he was able to lead the remaining five warriors behind him towards safety.
As the smoke in his driver's tunnel cleared, he was just able to make out the shape of another rocket-propelled grenade in flight heading directly towards him. He pulled the heavy armoured hatch down with one hand, whilst still controlling his vehicle with the other. However, the overpressure from the explosion of the rocket wrenched the hatch out of his grip, and the flames and force of the blast passed directly over him, down the driver's tunnel, further wounding the semi-conscious gunner in the turret.
The impact of this rocket destroyed Beharry's armoured periscope, so he was forced to drive the vehicle through the remainder of the ambushed route, some 1500m long, with his hatch opened up and his head exposed to enemy fire, all the time with no communications with any other vehicle. During this long surge through the ambushes the vehicle was again struck by rocket-propelled grenades and small arms fire.
While his head remained out of the hatch, to enable him to see the route ahead, he was directly exposed to much of this fire, and was himself hit by a 7.62mm bullet, which penetrated his helmet and remained lodged on its inner surface. Despite this harrowing weight of incoming fire Beharry continued to push through the extended ambush, still leading his platoon until he broke clean.
He then visually identified another Warrior from his company and followed it through the streets of Al Amarah to the outside of the Cimic House outpost, which was receiving small arms fire from the surrounding area. Once he had brought his vehicle to a halt outside, without thought for his own personal safety, he climbed onto the turret of the still-burning vehicle and, seemingly oblivious to the incoming enemy small arms fire, manhandled his wounded platoon commander out of the turret, off the vehicle and to the safety of a nearby Warrior.
He then returned once again to his vehicle and again mounted the exposed turret to lift out the vehicle's gunner and move him to a position of safety. Exposing himself yet again to enemy fire he returned to the rear of the burning vehicle to lead the disorientated and shocked dismounts and casualties to safety.
Remounting his burning vehicle for the third time, he drove it through a complex chicane and into the security of the defended perimeter of the outpost, thus denying it to the enemy.
Only at this stage did Beharry pull the fire extinguisher handles, immobilising the engine of the vehicle, dismounted and then moved himself into the relative safety of the back of another Warrior. Once inside Beharry collapsed from the sheer physical and mental exhaustion of his efforts and was subsequently himself evacuated.
Having returned to duty following medical treatment, on 11 June 2004 Beharry's Warrior was part of a quick reaction force tasked to attempt to cut off a mortar team that had attacked a coalition force base in Al Amarah. As the lead vehicle of the platoon he was moving rapidly through the dark city streets towards the suspected firing point, when his vehicle was ambushed by the enemy from a series of rooftop positions.
During this initial heavy weight of enemy fire, a rocket-propelled grenade detonated on the vehicle's frontal armour, just six inches [15cm] from Beharry's head, resulting in a serious head injury. Other rockets struck the turret and sides of the vehicle, incapacitating his commander and injuring several of the crew.
With the blood from his head injury obscuring his vision, Beharry managed to continue to control his vehicle, and forcefully reversed the Warrior out of the ambush area. The vehicle continued to move until it struck the wall of a nearby building and came to rest. Beharry then lost consciousness as a result of his wounds.
By moving the vehicle out of the enemy's chosen killing area he enabled other Warrior crews to be able to extract his crew from his vehicle, with a greatly reduced risk from incoming fire.
Despite receiving a serious head injury, which later saw him being listed as very seriously injured and in a coma for some time, his level-headed actions in the face of heavy and accurate enemy fire at short range again almost certainly saved the lives of his crew and provided the conditions for their safe evacuation to medical treatment.
Beharry displayed repeated extreme gallantry and unquestioned valour, despite intense direct attacks, personal injury and damage to his vehicle in the face of relentless enemy action.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/mcv_80_warrior.htm
最下面的视频2：20秒到2：30秒之间有提到RPG数量。
这个武士强
多大口径的rpg？
你听谁说的
多大口径的rpg？
zlatan 发表于 2009-11-26 00:04
现在最多最容易搞到手就是RPG-7。
多大口径的rpg？
zlatan 发表于 2009-11-26 00:04
现在最多最容易搞到手就是RPG-7。
应该把59拿来改步战车
回复 31# bailibing520
又来了
在现有的步兵战车上加装栅格装甲不更方便有效吗？
T-54/55之类的坦克如果不加附加装甲侧后部也是很难抵挡住RPG-7的
又来了
在现有的步兵战车上加装栅格装甲不更方便有效吗？
T-54/55之类的坦克如果不加附加装甲侧后部也是很难抵挡住RPG-7的
10枚！！！只能说这辆59rp爆发还信了春哥
我们在越南，那么多的59被RPG挂掉，难道就无视么
巧克力狗熊 发表于 2009-11-26 12:01
都说是最新改型了么，这些改进肯定和当年的损失有关系啊
都说是最新改型了么，这些改进肯定和当年的损失有关系啊
回复 30# Fan1
RPG也有多种不同的口径 超口径弹弹头有73mm 85mm 的 不知道 有没有更大的了
RPG也有多种不同的口径 超口径弹弹头有73mm 85mm 的 不知道 有没有更大的了
坦克被炸毁人员没伤亡，MD抓住这一点批中国坦克给自己抢市场
学习一下
万字军骑士 发表于 2009-11-25 04:02
小巴那个应该不是膨胀装甲吧
瞎猜的，也没有相关资料
小巴那个应该不是膨胀装甲吧
瞎猜的，也没有相关资料
巧克力狗熊 发表于 2009-11-26 12:01
民兵太多，没办法。
民兵太多，没办法。