三哥的30MKI 悲剧开始了---为了贪便宜HAL开始自己换MFD

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一看到HAL贪便宜,买别人MFD,自己来换............MKI估计就悲剧了........



说不定,半空中,屏幕全黑,连备份仪表也废掉都不一定............




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Samtel cockpit displays for Sukhoi-30MKI


Ajai Shukla / Ghaziabad      November 12, 2009


The Indian Air Force’s Sukhoi-30MKI fighter is a beast that is tamed only by technology. The aircraft’s giant AL-31FP turbofan engines, which allow manoeuvres that no other fighter can dream of, are monitored by its pilots on high-tech computer screens called multi-function displays, or MFDs. A quick glance across the MFDs also provides information about on-board weapons and sensors, telling the pilots everything about how the aircraft is flying and fighting.

These avionics — or aviation electronics — are the most expensive part of a fighter, usually about 35 per cent of its overall cost. Superior avionics provide a combat edge, helping a pilot harness his engines, airframe, sensors and weapons towards victory in aerial duels.

This month, the Su-30MKI will reach a major avionics landmark when NCR-based Samtel Display Systems supplies indigenous MFDs for six Su-30MKIs.

So far, French giant Thales has supplied MFDs for the Su-30MKIs, which are manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd in Nashik. Now Samtel Display Systems, a part of the Samtel Group, will supply these significantly cheaper than Thales.


Signalling its technological confidence, Samtel Display Systems has gone it alone in developing the Su-30MKI MFDs, despite having a JV with Thales. Starting with liquid crystal display (LCD) screens, commercially procured from Japan and Korea, Samtel has ruggedised them for use in military avionics. The display must be easily readable even in bright sunlight; it must be dim enough for the pilot to read at night without losing night vision; it must work at minus 40 degrees Centigrade when conventional LCD screens get frozen solid; and it must absorb the repeated violent impacts of landing on aircraft carriers.

It has taken Samtel five years to develop the MFDs and have them certified as “airworthy”, a mandatory evaluation for all military aviation systems, conducted by the DRDO’s Centre for Military Airworthiness and Certification (CEMILAC).

This success could garner more. Samtel Display Systems has joined hands with HAL, the country’s premier aircraft manufacturer, to form Samtel HAL Display Systems (SHDS), India’s first public-private venture in defence avionics. SHDS aims to indigenise cockpit display systems across the range of aircraft being built by HAL.

But cracking this high-risk market is difficult, even with the main buyer — HAL — as a JV partner. In response to SHDS’s offer to supply displays for HAL’s Intermediate Jet Trainer (IJT) at a price significantly cheaper than the current foreign suppliers, HAL has said: first show us how you perform in supplying MFDs for the Su-30MKI.

Interestingly, Samtel has leaped into cutting edge avionics from a relatively low-tech springboard. In 1998 Samtel — then a major supplier of Cathode Ray Tube (CRT) television displays — blundered in moving towards plasma display technology, rather than the LCD displays that many rivals chose. With global TV manufacturing majors backing LCD screens, plasma has been relegated to a sideshow.

Currently, TV sales worldwide are 200 million a year. Of these, LCD TVs comprise 105 million pieces, plasma TVs a mere 8 million pieces and the balance are CRT-based sets, which sell mainly in India and China because they are cheaper and can work on batteries. In the medium term and beyond, however, even CRT will dry up as a revenue stream.

But Samtel intends to be the last man standing in the CRT market, embracing a strategy of “obsolescence management”. As CRT production lines close down across the world, Samtel continues to manufacture the CRT displays that remain fitted on many weapons platforms worldwide.

When Sony closed down its Trinitron CRT line, its customer, US avionics major Honeywell, came to Samtel for CRT displays. A Samtel company in Ulm, Germany — purchased from Thales — produces monochrome CRT tubes for users across NATO militaries. And the Samtel Thales JV will now produce and support the Mirage-2000 video display cards, which was hitherto being done by Thales.

Samtel’s global strength in CRT comes from economy of scale and backward integration. It is the world’s only display company that manufactures its own glass. A Samtel group company in Rajasthan just buys sand for making glass for its display tubes. Even as CRT lines shut down across the world, Samtel’s CAGR remains 10-12 per cent, despite lowering its CRT prices 15 per cent annually.

Meanwhile, Samtel Display Systems has launched an ambitious technological leapfrog into Organic Light Emitting Diodes, or OLEDs, next-generation displays that are far more visible than LCDs. So far available only in sizes below 2 inches, they are already being employed on mobile phone screens and gaming controls.

“The OLED is the future of avionics displays,” says Puneet Kaura, executive director, Samtel Display Systems. “We have established a Centre of Excellence in IIT Kanpur, where we develop OLEDs in partnership with IIT Kanpur and the Department of Science and Technology. Some 20-30 per cent of R&D costs are borne by Samtel. ”

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一看到HAL贪便宜,买别人MFD,自己来换............MKI估计就悲剧了........



说不定,半空中,屏幕全黑,连备份仪表也废掉都不一定............




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Samtel cockpit displays for Sukhoi-30MKI


Ajai Shukla / Ghaziabad      November 12, 2009


The Indian Air Force’s Sukhoi-30MKI fighter is a beast that is tamed only by technology. The aircraft’s giant AL-31FP turbofan engines, which allow manoeuvres that no other fighter can dream of, are monitored by its pilots on high-tech computer screens called multi-function displays, or MFDs. A quick glance across the MFDs also provides information about on-board weapons and sensors, telling the pilots everything about how the aircraft is flying and fighting.

These avionics — or aviation electronics — are the most expensive part of a fighter, usually about 35 per cent of its overall cost. Superior avionics provide a combat edge, helping a pilot harness his engines, airframe, sensors and weapons towards victory in aerial duels.

This month, the Su-30MKI will reach a major avionics landmark when NCR-based Samtel Display Systems supplies indigenous MFDs for six Su-30MKIs.

So far, French giant Thales has supplied MFDs for the Su-30MKIs, which are manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd in Nashik. Now Samtel Display Systems, a part of the Samtel Group, will supply these significantly cheaper than Thales.


Signalling its technological confidence, Samtel Display Systems has gone it alone in developing the Su-30MKI MFDs, despite having a JV with Thales. Starting with liquid crystal display (LCD) screens, commercially procured from Japan and Korea, Samtel has ruggedised them for use in military avionics. The display must be easily readable even in bright sunlight; it must be dim enough for the pilot to read at night without losing night vision; it must work at minus 40 degrees Centigrade when conventional LCD screens get frozen solid; and it must absorb the repeated violent impacts of landing on aircraft carriers.

It has taken Samtel five years to develop the MFDs and have them certified as “airworthy”, a mandatory evaluation for all military aviation systems, conducted by the DRDO’s Centre for Military Airworthiness and Certification (CEMILAC).

This success could garner more. Samtel Display Systems has joined hands with HAL, the country’s premier aircraft manufacturer, to form Samtel HAL Display Systems (SHDS), India’s first public-private venture in defence avionics. SHDS aims to indigenise cockpit display systems across the range of aircraft being built by HAL.

But cracking this high-risk market is difficult, even with the main buyer — HAL — as a JV partner. In response to SHDS’s offer to supply displays for HAL’s Intermediate Jet Trainer (IJT) at a price significantly cheaper than the current foreign suppliers, HAL has said: first show us how you perform in supplying MFDs for the Su-30MKI.

Interestingly, Samtel has leaped into cutting edge avionics from a relatively low-tech springboard. In 1998 Samtel — then a major supplier of Cathode Ray Tube (CRT) television displays — blundered in moving towards plasma display technology, rather than the LCD displays that many rivals chose. With global TV manufacturing majors backing LCD screens, plasma has been relegated to a sideshow.

Currently, TV sales worldwide are 200 million a year. Of these, LCD TVs comprise 105 million pieces, plasma TVs a mere 8 million pieces and the balance are CRT-based sets, which sell mainly in India and China because they are cheaper and can work on batteries. In the medium term and beyond, however, even CRT will dry up as a revenue stream.

But Samtel intends to be the last man standing in the CRT market, embracing a strategy of “obsolescence management”. As CRT production lines close down across the world, Samtel continues to manufacture the CRT displays that remain fitted on many weapons platforms worldwide.

When Sony closed down its Trinitron CRT line, its customer, US avionics major Honeywell, came to Samtel for CRT displays. A Samtel company in Ulm, Germany — purchased from Thales — produces monochrome CRT tubes for users across NATO militaries. And the Samtel Thales JV will now produce and support the Mirage-2000 video display cards, which was hitherto being done by Thales.

Samtel’s global strength in CRT comes from economy of scale and backward integration. It is the world’s only display company that manufactures its own glass. A Samtel group company in Rajasthan just buys sand for making glass for its display tubes. Even as CRT lines shut down across the world, Samtel’s CAGR remains 10-12 per cent, despite lowering its CRT prices 15 per cent annually.

Meanwhile, Samtel Display Systems has launched an ambitious technological leapfrog into Organic Light Emitting Diodes, or OLEDs, next-generation displays that are far more visible than LCDs. So far available only in sizes below 2 inches, they are already being employed on mobile phone screens and gaming controls.

“The OLED is the future of avionics displays,” says Puneet Kaura, executive director, Samtel Display Systems. “We have established a Centre of Excellence in IIT Kanpur, where we develop OLEDs in partnership with IIT Kanpur and the Department of Science and Technology. Some 20-30 per cent of R&D costs are borne by Samtel. ”
悲剧啊....!~
HAL是TG在印度潜伏最深也是潜伏最好的组织,同志们辛苦了。:D;P
seele9999 发表于 2009-11-13 01:58


    非也非也,我觉得是印度国防部的潜伏者
你想,不摔怎么买,不买哪里来的回扣?
不要用太多简称行不
虽然我可以猜出来
三哥的飞飞开始心神不宁了
三哥是悲剧阿
还没摔呢……各位别把话说这么满啊……
[:a6:]作为一个SU系老用户A3摔的可远比TG少的多,要赶超TG的话HAL不可缺少
7L和6L的差距咋就这么大


花我不少时间翻译这篇东东,发现全是“三哥”在YY,而说到落后的产品时还拉上中国。
居然说落后的阴极显示管的电视主要在印度和中国生产!不知道咱们现在大多数的出货已经LCD化了。

Samtel的苏霍伊30MKI用座舱显示器
Ajai Shukla / Ghaziabad      November 12, 2009
印度空军的苏霍伊30MKI战斗机是一头只能被科技驯服的大怪兽。飞机有着巨大的AL-31FP涡扇发动机,这台发动机能够表演出其他战斗机梦想要达到的效果,但必须由叫做多功能显示器的高科技计算机屏幕(MFD)来由飞行员加以监视。快速浏览一下MFD可以获得机载武器和传感器的状态,告诉飞行员飞行或格斗时的所需要的每一种信息。
这就是航电或称航空电子,它是战斗机最昂贵的部分,通常占到其全部成本的35%。高级的航电提供格斗优势,帮助飞行员利用好他的发动机、武器、传感器和武器以便取得空中决斗的胜利。

本月Su-30MKI将在基于NCR的SAMTEL显示系统提供本土生产的6架SU-30MKI的MFD后进入一个重要的航电里程碑。
到现在为止,法国Thales公司为SU-30MKI提供MFD,并由位于Nashik的印度斯坦航空生产。现在Samtel Display System公司,作为Samtel集团公司的一部分,将提供比Thales公司便宜得多的产品。

为显示技术自信,Samtel显示系统独立开发了Su-30MKI的MFD,尽管与Thales进行合资(JV)。开始以商业采购自日本或韩国的液晶显示器(LCD)作为显示屏,Samtel对其进行加强以便作为军用航电使用。显示器必须在强烈阳光下能够容易阅读,在夜间能够降低亮度以便飞行员夜间阅读但不能丢失夜间视野,必须工作在零下40摄氏度以防液晶冻结成固体,必须吸收飞机载具着陆的剧烈振动。
Samtel花了5年时间开发和验证其“适合航空用”、并通过由DRDO中心主导的军用航空适用认证(CEMILAC)的强制认证。
这一胜利可能收获更多,Samtel Display System与HAL联手,HAL是印度最主要的飞机制造商,以形成Samtel-HAL显示系统(SHDS),印度第一家公众私营防务航电产品的公司。SHDS专注于HAL制造的所有飞机的座舱显示器。

要打破这个高风险市场是困难的,甚至主要购买商---HAL---作为一个风险伙伴也是如此。为了响应SHDS的承诺为HAL的中级喷气教练机(IJT)提供比当前外国供应商价格极低的显示器,HAL说先让我们看到你们是怎么为SU-30MKI提供MDF的。

有趣的是,Samtel依靠一个关联的低技术跳板闯入此尖端航空电子行业。1998年Samtel---当时一个主要的阴极射线管(CRT)显示器供应商---正在努力向等离子技术转移,而不是象许多竞争对手选择的LCD技术。当全球的生产商支持LCD时,等离子技术成为支流。
现在全球TV销售为每年2亿台,其中1.05亿是LCD TV,等离子TV占8百万其它是基于CRT的机器,这些CRT机器主要在印度和中国销售,机器便宜并可以使用电池。在中期和之后,CRT的销售额将枯竭。
Samtel想要成为最后一位站在CRT市场的人,但被“老产品管理”策略所包围。全世界的CRT生产线关闭的情况下,Samtel继续生产装多在全世界武器平台上配用的CRT显示器。

当Sony关闭其Trinitron CRT生产线,其美国用户Honeywell(霍尼威尔)找到Samtel采购CRT。在德国ULM的Samtel公司卖给了Thales,生产NATO(北约)用户所需的单色显示器。Samtel Thales合资公司现在支持幻影2000的视频卡,这些卡目前是由Thales生产。
Samtel在CRT方面的全球优势来自于规模和后向整合。它是世界上唯一的做自已玻璃的厂商。位于Rajasthan的Samtel集团下属公司买砂子并造用于显示管的玻璃。尽管世界上很多CRT生产线关闭,Samtel的GAGR仍然保留了10-12%,尽管CRT的价格以每年15%速度下降。
与此同时,Samtel Display System在有机光激发二极管(OLED)方面启动了一个野心勃勃的“蛙跳”计划,OLED是下一代的显示技术比LCD更容易观看。目前只能做2英寸以下的显示器,但已经用于手机屏和游戏控制。
“OLED是航电显示器的未来”Samtel Display System执行总监Punkeek Kaura说“我们已经在Kanpur建立了一个优秀的(研发)中心,在那里我们与IIT Kanpur和科技部合作开发OLED。20-30%的费用来自Samtel。

花我不少时间翻译这篇东东,发现全是“三哥”在YY,而说到落后的产品时还拉上中国。
居然说落后的阴极显示管的电视主要在印度和中国生产!不知道咱们现在大多数的出货已经LCD化了。

Samtel的苏霍伊30MKI用座舱显示器
Ajai Shukla / Ghaziabad      November 12, 2009
印度空军的苏霍伊30MKI战斗机是一头只能被科技驯服的大怪兽。飞机有着巨大的AL-31FP涡扇发动机,这台发动机能够表演出其他战斗机梦想要达到的效果,但必须由叫做多功能显示器的高科技计算机屏幕(MFD)来由飞行员加以监视。快速浏览一下MFD可以获得机载武器和传感器的状态,告诉飞行员飞行或格斗时的所需要的每一种信息。
这就是航电或称航空电子,它是战斗机最昂贵的部分,通常占到其全部成本的35%。高级的航电提供格斗优势,帮助飞行员利用好他的发动机、武器、传感器和武器以便取得空中决斗的胜利。

本月Su-30MKI将在基于NCR的SAMTEL显示系统提供本土生产的6架SU-30MKI的MFD后进入一个重要的航电里程碑。
到现在为止,法国Thales公司为SU-30MKI提供MFD,并由位于Nashik的印度斯坦航空生产。现在Samtel Display System公司,作为Samtel集团公司的一部分,将提供比Thales公司便宜得多的产品。

为显示技术自信,Samtel显示系统独立开发了Su-30MKI的MFD,尽管与Thales进行合资(JV)。开始以商业采购自日本或韩国的液晶显示器(LCD)作为显示屏,Samtel对其进行加强以便作为军用航电使用。显示器必须在强烈阳光下能够容易阅读,在夜间能够降低亮度以便飞行员夜间阅读但不能丢失夜间视野,必须工作在零下40摄氏度以防液晶冻结成固体,必须吸收飞机载具着陆的剧烈振动。
Samtel花了5年时间开发和验证其“适合航空用”、并通过由DRDO中心主导的军用航空适用认证(CEMILAC)的强制认证。
这一胜利可能收获更多,Samtel Display System与HAL联手,HAL是印度最主要的飞机制造商,以形成Samtel-HAL显示系统(SHDS),印度第一家公众私营防务航电产品的公司。SHDS专注于HAL制造的所有飞机的座舱显示器。

要打破这个高风险市场是困难的,甚至主要购买商---HAL---作为一个风险伙伴也是如此。为了响应SHDS的承诺为HAL的中级喷气教练机(IJT)提供比当前外国供应商价格极低的显示器,HAL说先让我们看到你们是怎么为SU-30MKI提供MDF的。

有趣的是,Samtel依靠一个关联的低技术跳板闯入此尖端航空电子行业。1998年Samtel---当时一个主要的阴极射线管(CRT)显示器供应商---正在努力向等离子技术转移,而不是象许多竞争对手选择的LCD技术。当全球的生产商支持LCD时,等离子技术成为支流。
现在全球TV销售为每年2亿台,其中1.05亿是LCD TV,等离子TV占8百万其它是基于CRT的机器,这些CRT机器主要在印度和中国销售,机器便宜并可以使用电池。在中期和之后,CRT的销售额将枯竭。
Samtel想要成为最后一位站在CRT市场的人,但被“老产品管理”策略所包围。全世界的CRT生产线关闭的情况下,Samtel继续生产装多在全世界武器平台上配用的CRT显示器。

当Sony关闭其Trinitron CRT生产线,其美国用户Honeywell(霍尼威尔)找到Samtel采购CRT。在德国ULM的Samtel公司卖给了Thales,生产NATO(北约)用户所需的单色显示器。Samtel Thales合资公司现在支持幻影2000的视频卡,这些卡目前是由Thales生产。
Samtel在CRT方面的全球优势来自于规模和后向整合。它是世界上唯一的做自已玻璃的厂商。位于Rajasthan的Samtel集团下属公司买砂子并造用于显示管的玻璃。尽管世界上很多CRT生产线关闭,Samtel的GAGR仍然保留了10-12%,尽管CRT的价格以每年15%速度下降。
与此同时,Samtel Display System在有机光激发二极管(OLED)方面启动了一个野心勃勃的“蛙跳”计划,OLED是下一代的显示技术比LCD更容易观看。目前只能做2英寸以下的显示器,但已经用于手机屏和游戏控制。
“OLED是航电显示器的未来”Samtel Display System执行总监Punkeek Kaura说“我们已经在Kanpur建立了一个优秀的(研发)中心,在那里我们与IIT Kanpur和科技部合作开发OLED。20-30%的费用来自Samtel。
三哥的事都是摆在台面上的,有点啥事容易放大

好的也是,坏的也是
seele9999 发表于 2009-11-13 01:58
估计印度高层没看过《2001太空漫游》,敢用这么祥瑞的缩写
HAL功劳大大的啊。。。。。南亚的和平就靠它了
回复 10# zhang3wood


    兄弟辛苦!
HAL时南亚和平的保护神
三锅的斯坦公司一向牛X的紧啊
Su-30MKI这么多年来才摔了一架……
希望Su-30MKI后来居上,赶超Su-30MKK,勇夺“Su-30摔机冠军”。
三哥项目好多 心神不定啊
SokhoiRose 发表于 2009-11-13 11:16

你怎么知道“三”只摔一架,有来源和证据么?
当然,不飞肯定不会摔罗!“三”的训练强度能比么?
zhang3wood 发表于 2009-11-13 11:18

每次印度一摔飞机,TG媒体都是蜂拥报道,想不知道都难。
记得以前还有篇“印度坠机警示TG飞行安全”的报道……
训练强度和摔机又不是必然的正相关。
TG一坠机就是因为训练强度太高了?
TG的保障不行,为什么人家找TG保障飞机不找啊三保障飞机?
杯具啊....
印度的飞机就是一个茶几呀。
我很不厚道的想,过上半年,然后阿三的飞机狂掉,。。
阿三飞飞的跳伞技术还是可以的。
三哥的飞行员都可以到空降兵教跳伞
zhang3wood 发表于 2009-11-13 11:18


训练强度非常大的..................
roach1234 发表于 2009-11-13 09:38


三哥的确很透明的
emellzzq 发表于 2009-11-13 11:43


    马来西亚人傻!
某些人肯定会这么说的!
三哥茶几了。。。
zhjayang 发表于 2009-11-13 02:28

不用简称怎么和那些菜鸟区分开呀
换个显示器,还是从日本韩国进口民用版液晶显示器(LCD),再加强成军用的就吹得个神乎其神啊!偶真的佩服之极啊!
没有看到我国做工控机的全部都是民用LCD显示器改成加强型军用显示器的行业已经做了差不多20年了!

换显示器真不是什么高科技,俺都会!
巴哥应该给HAL授勋!
Hindustan[:a2:]
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2009-11-13 11:57
毛国宣传干事你好,请你给个出处

毛国宣传干事你好,请你给个出处
mmxx 发表于 2009-11-13 20:20


就你这德行..........别废我键盘.........
毛国宣传干事你好,请你给个出处
mmxx 发表于 2009-11-13 20:20


就你这德行..........别废我键盘.........
HAL的活计么,估计会插错线吧。
阿3的LCD不是液晶的,是灌了神油的
摔了再买,三哥不差钱
mmxx 发表于 2009-11-13 20:20
共同向中校同志请求了解A3的训练强度!
观后效